Hello,
I have been a big fan of the 1982 Ferrari & wonder are there any still in existance, I never see or hear of them in any of the historic or thoroughbred grand prix series.
Also if anyone has any photos I would love to see them.

Many Thanks

The 1982 season was a tragic season for Ferrari and for the C2. Gilles Villeneuve lost his life at Zolder in Belgium and Didier Pironi smashed his legs at Hockenheim in Germany leading to the end of his career.

Due to these facts, I believe that the 1982 season is something that makes the C2 cars "easy" to forget. There must be some individual cars left though, try to contact e.g. Ferrari directly.

Search by Google (or any other search engine) the photos.

I asked the same question some years ago here on the nostalgia forum. From what I remember there wasn't much feedback. Anyway, over the winter of 1982 Ferrarii converted the 126C2 as we know it to the 126C2B which looks more like the 1983 car. But, look here:

http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/happeni...od01/f1%27s.jpg

That appears to be the 126C2 with new wings which Arnoux and Tambay used during pre season testing for 1983. It has the extended sidepods we associate with the C2.

For good details of Ferrari chassis from the turbo era, check out Anthony Prichard's book called Ferrari Turbo's.

As far as I know 8 C2's were built (chassis 055 - 062). Not many survived, though: Didier Pironi destroyed two in very serious crashes in testing in the first part of 1982 and then of course the incidents at Zolder and Hockenheim happened, destroying another two. One more chassis is said to be have been ripped apart in the factory when Ferrari first tested refueling it under pressure (after Brabham introduced planned stops for fuel and tyres).

At least one C2 (062) was converted to B-spec for 1983, whilst other C2's were partly or more or less entirely used to built the C2/B's (remember the drastic rule changes were confirmed late in 1982, forcing many teams to built interim cars largely based on their 1982-model), before the carbon C3 chassis made its debut at Silverstone halfway through 1983.

I know at least one C2 still exists (061) and that car is still in Europe. I was lucky to spent a lot of time in its company and got to study it up close and personal. The reasons you don't see a C2 in historic races, is because turbocars are not allowed to compete in any historic series, although the actual running of a turbo engine (a Ferrari at least) is less complicated as one often hears.

061 (C2 -> B) appeared at Goodwood in 2001. It was in the Setton collection then.;
064 (C2B) was in that same collection;
065 (C2B) was at Goodwood as well, only in 99 and 00.

date GP chassis n° résultat
23/1/82 GP d'Afrique du Sud - Kyalami - CM. F1 Gilles Villeneuve 126 C2 055/81 27 7
23/1/82 GP d'Afrique du Sud - Kyalami - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 056/82 28 18
21/3/82 GP du Bresil - Jacarepagua - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 056/82 28 8
21/3/82 GP du Bresil - Jacarepagua - CM. F1 Gilles Villeneuve 126 C2 057/82 27 ac
4/4/82 GP des Etats-Unis - Long Beach - CM. F1 Gilles Villeneuve 126 C2 058/82 27 dq
4/4/82 GP des Etats-Unis - Long Beach - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 056/82 28 ac
25/4/82 GP de San Marin - Imola - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 056/82 28 1
25/4/82 GP de San Marin - Imola - CM. F1 Gilles Villeneuve 126 C2 058/82 27 2
8/5/82 GP de Belgique - Zolder - CM. F1 Gilles Villeneuve 126 C2 058/82 27 ac-m
8/5/82 GP de Belgique - Zolder - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 059/82 28 forf
23/5/82 GP de Monaco - Monaco - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 055/81 28 2
6/6/82 GP des Etats-Unis - Detroit - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 056/82 28 3
13/6/82 GP du Canada - Montréal - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 059/82 28 9
3/7/82 GP de Hollande - Zandword - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 060/82 28 1
3/7/82 GP de Hollande - Zandword - CM. F1 Patrick Tambay 126 C2 057/82 27 8
16/7/82 GP d'Angleterre - Brands Hatch - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 060/82 28 2
16/7/82 GP d'Angleterre - Brands Hatch - CM. F1 Patrick Tambay 126 C2 061/82 27 3
25/7/82 GP de France - Castelet - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 060/82 28 3
25/7/82 GP de France - Castelet - CM. F1 Patrick Tambay 126 C2 061/82 27 4
7/8/82 GP d'Allemagne - Hockeinheim - CM. F1 D. Pironi 126 C2 060/82 28 np
8/8/82 GP d'Allemagne - Hockeinheim - CM. F1 Patrick Tambay 126 C2 061/82 27 1
15/8/82 GP d'Autriche - Zeltweg - CM. F1 Patrick Tambay 126 C2 061/82 27 4
29/8/82 GP de Suisse - Dijon Prenois - CM. F1 Patrick Tambay 126 C2 27 np
12/9/82 GP d'Italie - Monza - CM. F1 Patrick Tambay 126 C2 062/82 27 2
12/9/82 GP d'Italie - Monza - CM. F1 Mario Andretti 126 C2 061/82 28 3
25/9/82 GP des Etats-Unis - Las Vegas - CM. F1 Mario Andretti 126 C2 061/82 28 ab

Gilles Villeneuve/126 C2
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/boub...euve/?start=120

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One of the snags of being relatively new to TNF, is rummaging back through previous posts, and finding some old post of interest, and starting it up agin. However, having scanned thousands of good, bad, and awful pics, here are two of my absolute favs.

Zandvoort 1982, qualifying, the Ferrari's had sooo much downforce, and were so fast round the back of the track. The distortion of the tyres tells the story... just amazing

Despite its rather grizzly history, this is my favourite F1 car of all time, I think it's so great-looking.

Salut Gilles...

Gilles and Prost during the race at Long Beach....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/46681980@N03/...57624008130538/

A lighthearted one of Gilles at Long Beach....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/46681980@N03/...57624008130538/

I have more buried in my archives. When time allows I'll scan and post them....

One assumes those tyres are well loaded up!!!

Could be on the rebound from porpoising...

Did the teams possibly run tires at lower pressures than otherwise would have been optimal in '82? I recall reading about the hydraulic jacks some teams tried in '81 or '82 that allowed the cars to lower themselves after leaving the pits to regain some of the lost downforce from the restrictions on the skirts, but this also forced the teams to run suspension settings that were basically rock solid which really beat up the drivers. If the tires could be a bit lower pressure, maybe that was just enough "give" to soften the ride a bit for the the drivers?

Another question about the '82 Ferrari... does anyone have any more detailed photos of the car at Long Beach with the double width rear wing? It looks like a crude hash job with 2 front wings mounted in tandem on the rear wing strut for an attempt at a bit more downforce, and obviously it ended up costing Gilles a podium, but I'd love to see a close up photo...

Dan

I have more of the car with the double rear wing. Not sure if I have static detail stuff but I know that I have action stuff that is more detailed than what I posted above.

You'll have to be patient as reality calls....workin' in the real world...so it won't be right away that I can get to it.

Dan - This shows some of the upper detail. I don't seem to have any of the lower mounting area.

Do remember this was still in the day when Goodyear's were crossply, hance they did have flexible carcasses, but for qualifying they did screw the boost, crank on all the downforce they could muster. Maybe a little bit down on tyre pressure, but if I could see that amount of distortion, I'd like to be confident there's enough air in there to hold the bead on.

Great pic, Bsquared, thanks. I've been doing a little reading trying to find more info on the wing, and I came across an interesting quote from GV that Ferrari built the wing not so much for any aero advantage as it wasn't particularly efficient, but more so to show that the rules could easily be "interpreted" in different ways as a way of calling out the Cosworth teams and their clever rule breaking at the time to gain an advantage on the turbo cars... My apologies for the caps, that's how I found it and I'm lazy...
"THESE WINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY MORE EFFICIENT. THE POINT IS TO SHOW HOW EASY
IT IS TO INTERPRET THE RULES DIFFERENTLY, WHICH IS WHAT THE
BRITISH CONSTRUCTORS WHO BELONG TO FOCA ARE DOING"