Full Version: Your choice for Badoer's replacement after Valencia?
Well after the shock news that Michael's cancelled his comeback it seems like a new poll is required. Badoer's not likely to get more than one race, so who could be Massa's full time replacement until he's racing again?
QUOTE (Jason Burton @ Aug 11 2009, 12:36) 
Well after the shock news that Michael's cancelled his comeback it seems like a new poll is required. Badoer's not likely to get more than one race, so who could be Massa's full time replacement until he's racing again?
A good point your thread makes.
Badoer has only been given Valencia so far.
Based on Ferrari's statement that Badoer's race at Valencia is in thanks for his hard work as a tester, I'd presume Gene will get Spa.
After that, who knows.. Perhaps they'll alternate.
Seems like a messy solution though.
I don't mean to be rude but why in the last few polls are people refusing to list the obvious choices?! In this case being:
- No one
- Felipe Massa
I'll go with Massa. If he is not ready, stick with Badoer.
- No one
- Felipe Massa
I'll go with Massa. If he is not ready, stick with Badoer.
I'm trully puzzled to see Villeneuve's name pop up in these threads.
I voted for Piquet Jr. Already familiar with the 2009 cars and still young enough to fully exploit his potential. Bourdais would have been my second choice.
I voted for Piquet Jr. Already familiar with the 2009 cars and still young enough to fully exploit his potential. Bourdais would have been my second choice.
How the hell should Vilander or Bruni get a superlicense? Neither has driven an open wheel cars in anger for four years, and Vilander has never been in a position to get one either. Bruni has of course been an F1 driver, but I don't think he impressed a lot in 2004. It's not a big ask beating Zsolt Baumgartner. The question is, why didn't he always do it? No, stick with Badoer until Massa is back.
give gene a shot
No FA? 
But I think Massa can come back at Spa!
But I think Massa can come back at Spa!
The subject of Ferrari's driver after Valencia is interesting, but some of the poll candidates are crazy.
Jacques Villeneuve - Too out of practice, struggled with a similar return in 2004 after only a year away
Mika Salo - Last drove and F1 car when?
Jean Alesi - Last drove and F1 car when?!? Is 45 year old!!!
Fabrizio Giovanardi - Has been racing touring cars. Since 1992!!!!
Andrea Bertolini - No single seater form since karts, respectable sportscar driver
Gianmaria Bruni - Best days well behind him
Andy Priaulx - Tintop driver since 2002..
Valentino Rossi - More chance than any of the others you've named, but still an utter outside chance
Toni Vilander - Raikkonen's good mate and.... nothing else.
Jos Verstappen - You've gotta be kidding
Heinz Harald Frentzen - Hasn't driven an F1 car since 2003..
Nicola Larini - Has form as Ferrari replacement.. back in 1994! Why didn't you just say Patrick Tambay?
What about Giorgio Pantano?
Jacques Villeneuve - Too out of practice, struggled with a similar return in 2004 after only a year away
Mika Salo - Last drove and F1 car when?
Jean Alesi - Last drove and F1 car when?!? Is 45 year old!!!
Fabrizio Giovanardi - Has been racing touring cars. Since 1992!!!!
Andrea Bertolini - No single seater form since karts, respectable sportscar driver
Gianmaria Bruni - Best days well behind him
Andy Priaulx - Tintop driver since 2002..
Valentino Rossi - More chance than any of the others you've named, but still an utter outside chance
Toni Vilander - Raikkonen's good mate and.... nothing else.
Jos Verstappen - You've gotta be kidding
Heinz Harald Frentzen - Hasn't driven an F1 car since 2003..
Nicola Larini - Has form as Ferrari replacement.. back in 1994! Why didn't you just say Patrick Tambay?
What about Giorgio Pantano?
Nice, this threads back.
I renominate Baumgartner.
I renominate Baumgartner.
Michael Schumacher?
QUOTE (Atreiu @ Aug 11 2009, 08:47)
I voted for Piquet Jr. Already familiar with the 2009 cars and still young enough to fully exploit his potential. Bourdais would have been my second choice.
+1
from the given options
pantano or digrassi would be nice though, just to see how they handle, after all buemi and alguersuari did pretty well in their debuts in F1.
Ought to be Tonio Liuzzi. I think he'd do surprisingly well.
QUOTE (Rob @ Aug 11 2009, 13:09)
Ought to be Tonio Liuzzi. I think he'd do surprisingly well.
I agree actually.
But he never seems to be mentioned in anyway.
I presume most of those names are there for a joke? Who says Badoer won't be there longer? oh, yeah-no one.
QUOTE (Paul Taylor @ Aug 11 2009, 09:05)
Michael Schumacher?
yeah, thinking better. most probably.
it was just a normal neck pain in a 40 years old with too much time without 5Gs in his neck, maybe for Spa or later, Michael will be more physically prepared.
Bourdais..
QUOTE (potmotr @ Aug 11 2009, 13:01)
The subject of Ferrari's driver after Valencia is interesting, but some of the poll candidates are crazy.
Jacques Villeneuve - Too out of practice, struggled with a similar return in 2004 after only a year away
Mika Salo - Last drove and F1 car when? Suzuka 2002, has Ferrari F1 race experience!!
Jean Alesi - Last drove and F1 car when?!? Is 45 year old!!! Suzuka 2001, has Ferrari F1 race experience!!
Fabrizio Giovanardi - Has been racing touring cars. Since 1992!!!! Has Ferrari F1 test experience!!
Andrea Bertolini - No single seater form since karts, respectable sportscar driver - Has Ferrari F1 test experience!!
Gianmaria Bruni - Best days well behind him - drives a Ferrari GT
Andy Priaulx - Tintop driver since 2002.. I admit, it's a longshot...
Valentino Rossi - More chance than any of the others you've named, but still an utter outside chance
Toni Vilander - Raikkonen's good mate and.... nothing else. KIMI HAS INFLUENCE!! Toni drives a Ferrari GT.
Jos Verstappen - You've gotta be kidding - F1 experience
Heinz Harald Frentzen - Hasn't driven an F1 car since 2003.. SPEEDCAR!!?
Nicola Larini - Has form as Ferrari replacement.. back in 1994! Why didn't you just say Patrick Tambay? Larini drove in F1 more recently than 1994, and in a Ferrari powered car!
What about Giorgio Pantano? he's useless
Jacques Villeneuve - Too out of practice, struggled with a similar return in 2004 after only a year away
Mika Salo - Last drove and F1 car when? Suzuka 2002, has Ferrari F1 race experience!!
Jean Alesi - Last drove and F1 car when?!? Is 45 year old!!! Suzuka 2001, has Ferrari F1 race experience!!
Fabrizio Giovanardi - Has been racing touring cars. Since 1992!!!! Has Ferrari F1 test experience!!
Andrea Bertolini - No single seater form since karts, respectable sportscar driver - Has Ferrari F1 test experience!!
Gianmaria Bruni - Best days well behind him - drives a Ferrari GT
Andy Priaulx - Tintop driver since 2002.. I admit, it's a longshot...
Valentino Rossi - More chance than any of the others you've named, but still an utter outside chance
Toni Vilander - Raikkonen's good mate and.... nothing else. KIMI HAS INFLUENCE!! Toni drives a Ferrari GT.
Jos Verstappen - You've gotta be kidding - F1 experience
Heinz Harald Frentzen - Hasn't driven an F1 car since 2003.. SPEEDCAR!!?
Nicola Larini - Has form as Ferrari replacement.. back in 1994! Why didn't you just say Patrick Tambay? Larini drove in F1 more recently than 1994, and in a Ferrari powered car!
What about Giorgio Pantano? he's useless
QUOTE (thiscocks @ Aug 11 2009, 13:11)
I presume most of those names are there for a joke? Who says Badoer won't be there longer? oh, yeah-no one.
Ferrari's statement says "Valencia" not "Until Massa is better" like they did with Schumacher.
Confirmation it is not, but it given it's the same team making both statements it's reasonable to assume they're at least keeping their options open.
I was hoping (probably against better judgement) for Michael to be fit by then but ifnot then Bourdais or Liuzzi would be nice.
LOL somebody voted Verstappen, I don't think he could drive in Belgium he's probably still under a restraining-order after his conviction for threatening and harassing his wife last year.
LOL somebody voted Verstappen, I don't think he could drive in Belgium he's probably still under a restraining-order after his conviction for threatening and harassing his wife last year.
QUOTE (JPW @ Aug 11 2009, 15:36)
LOL somebody voted Verstappen, I don't think he could drive in Belgium he's probably still under a restraining-order after his conviction for threatening and harassing his wife last year.
And we know who that person is...
QUOTE (Dudley @ Aug 11 2009, 13:23)
Ferrari's statement says "Valencia" not "Until Massa is better" like they did with Schumacher.
You clearly haven't read it, as it says :
"as from the forthcoming European Grand Prix, Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro announces that car number 3 will be driven by Luca Badoer."
QUOTE (potmotr @ Aug 11 2009, 12:38)
Based on Ferrari's statement that Badoer's race at Valencia is in thanks for his hard work as a tester, I'd presume Gene will get Spa.
After that, who knows.. Perhaps they'll alternate.
After that, who knows.. Perhaps they'll alternate.
If Luca Badoer is only given Valencia, and they give Gene Spa, then they will be forced to go with either Gene or Badoer for the rest of the time Massa is out, since they will have used four drivers. Only in exceptional circumstances will they allow a fifth driver to be registered.
But as someone said, it's looking like Badoer doesn't just have Valencia.
Ukyo Katayama
I'm still not giving up hope. Can't you add Schumacher to the poll? (Michael that is, not Ralf) 
Bourdais gets my vote again. If he does not get it, then it should be Piquet.
QUOTE (Spa95 @ Aug 11 2009, 15:49)
I'm still not giving up hope. Can't you add Schumacher to the poll? (Michael that is, not Ralf)
Unfortunately, if MS has his neck pinched, Massa could recover sooner than him.
this is like a list of who is who in average drivers...
cant believe I chose Piquet lol
cant believe I chose Piquet lol
Nigel Mansell
Chris Amon, or maybe Mike Thackwell. 
QUOTE (engel @ Aug 11 2009, 15:17)
Nigel Mansell
Now that would be awesome.
Why not Greg Mansell?
Looks like his Dad, speaks like his Dad.
Sure he could get a moustache going in time for Monza...
QUOTE (potmotr @ Aug 11 2009, 07:25)
Now that would be awesome.
Why not Greg Mansell?
Why not Greg Mansell?
Because Nigel is faster, that's why
I'm puzzled why Anthony Davidson seems to be way below everyone's radar in all those 'who will drive where' threads. Proven test driver, decent race pace, drove a F1 car recently, not too old, definitely motivated to show what he is worth. Piqeuet Jr - he was given a chance, then he was given a second chance and he pretty clearly showed he is not F1 material.
JV - c'mon. Last seen in an F1 car 3 years ago and even back then he was considered to be across the hill.
Some other names are even more unreal and again, it's not only this thread. Alesi? Burti? Versappen? WTF, why not Damon Hill? Or Harry Potter?
JV - c'mon. Last seen in an F1 car 3 years ago and even back then he was considered to be across the hill.
Some other names are even more unreal and again, it's not only this thread. Alesi? Burti? Versappen? WTF, why not Damon Hill? Or Harry Potter?
this list looks like we're back in the year 2000..
QUOTE (engel @ Aug 11 2009, 14:17)
Nigel Mansell
As soon as it is confirmed I buy my tickets to Monza
Luca Di Grassi?
Marc Gene could be a great choice.
He is in racing form, has F1 experience and knows the Ferrari very well.
He is in racing form, has F1 experience and knows the Ferrari very well.
QUOTE (billkaos @ Aug 11 2009, 16:23)
Marc Gene could be a great choice.
He is in racing form, has F1 experience and knows the Ferrari very well.
He is in racing form, has F1 experience and knows the Ferrari very well.
As someone pointed out on one of these threads today...
Ferrari should have put Badoer in for Monza and Gene in for Valencia.
Please the home town crowds.
Simples.
*(And perhaps put Thierry Boutsen or Bertrand Gachot in for Belgium, Takuma Sato for Japan, Bruno Senna for Brazil. Nominations being accepted for Singapore and Abu Dhabi...
Kubica? Hiedfeld? Wurtz?
lots of names not on that list. I'd love to see alesi back but he's way too old now.
lots of names not on that list. I'd love to see alesi back but he's way too old now.
QUOTE (billkaos @ Aug 11 2009, 17:23)
Marc Gene could be a great choice.
He is in racing form, has F1 experience and knows the Ferrari very well.
He is in racing form, has F1 experience and knows the Ferrari very well.
That's for me also the most wise choice. I think it's more sensible to talk about Gene and Badoer only, and between both Gene looks better for me.
Poor old Sato didn't even make the shortlist
Alain Prost or Me.
How about The Stig 
QUOTE (CaptnMark @ Aug 11 2009, 16:50)
How about The Stig
He's got a poorly neck
QUOTE (smartie_f1 @ Aug 11 2009, 15:35)
Poor old Sato didn't even make the shortlist
yeah, even Davidson did
Jeremy Clarkson ..... if they can get him into the car that is ... 
Ralf Schumacher!!
QUOTE (smartie_f1 @ Aug 11 2009, 08:35)
Poor old Sato didn't even make the shortlist
That's because he hits anything and everything but the checkered flag!!!!!!
QUOTE (potmotr)
Bertrand Gachot in for Belgium
Oh, the irony ...
QUOTE
Nominations being accepted for Singapore
Alex Yoong!
i don't like the choices. not sure i want anybody back other than MS or Massa.
Seriously, why not give Sato a shot? Put him in an F60 and watch him bring some excitement. As he always did. Good or bad.
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