Do the 33 United States wins include Indianapolis wins?

One of the interesting points to raise with someone who wants a united Ireland is the fact that Ireland has only ever been united by the English. I think Henry VIII declared himself King of Ireland, until then it was just that big bit over there with the revolting peasants.

No no. Here is an impressive list of High Kings who ruled the whole of Ireland. Totally made up of course, but history usually is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_High_Kings_of_Ireland

You have learnt your propaganda well.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_King_of_Ireland

Why do you think they were called "High" Kings? Because there were OTHER kings. Hence the kingdoms of Ulster, Leinster, Munster, Connaught and Meath, and others fizzing in the quantum foam of the Dark Ages. All as separate as Mercia, Wessex and the others in the so-called Heptarchy that eventually by conquest or merger became England.

Calling Ireland united under a High King would be like calling what-is-now-England united under a Bretwalda. I.e. totally, utterly, completely wrong.

And there's no propaganda. Merely study of the period.

You obviously have no understanding of the trade with Scotland mentioned in a previous post

I thought Schumiland had been accepted by the king of Monaco as an independent state
It surely has the 'most wins / population

You saying it was a branding exercise?

So they had federalism, local governments with a ceremonial head of state in Tara. Sounds modern, like Germany or Spain today.

Much more "united" than a foreign dictator occupying the whole country.

Well, if an English dictator, like Henry VIII, takes the whole country with force, I wouldn't call it united. I would call it conquered.

If local kings elect a high king to sit in the federal capital, I would call them united. United States of Ireland.

Still think that anniversary went buy veeeerrryy quietly.

Pikku, you should come to Scotland, It has its own parliament, justice system (oh boy don't we know that one), education system, language (and I don't mean Gaelic, the Scots dialect of English is like a seperate language in itself). Great Britain has always been an union of two countries Scotland and England and a principality, Wales. Not actually sure what NI is when you expand that to the UK. annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyywaaaaaaay I did say in my initial thing ages ago that we would have 66 WHEN we are a nation again, soon hopefully..

That is my point - those seeking a united Ireland are seeking something ahistorical. Incidentally, the whole island had already been conquered by Henry II (with the Pope's blessing), it just wasn't considered a kingdom.


They did not elect a high king. It's effectively a retconning. Honorific title granted to whichever of the kings was the most powerful. But a High King from, say, Leinster would not rule Munster.

Pfft, about as much as Geordie.

Scotland may have its devolved government, which is curiously based on the Scotland Act 1998 - an act of the UK parliament. The autonomy of Scotland completely stems from UK Parliament and may be reduced or totally abolished by an act of parliament. It has happened in NI couple of times, IIRC. In that sense even Aland has higher degree of independence, as its autonomy may not be unilaterally terminated.

There is no reason Scotland should be considered different from any other autonomous entity. Having been a kingdom, having a parliament and a cabinet etc are not any special traits. Scotland has not been a sovereign state since 1707. If you wish to list all pre-1707 Scottish succes in F1 as 'Scottish', feel free to do so... Or at least stop bitching about the Asturias remark.

Lets only include UK manufacturers powered by UK engines hey as theres a lot of Japanese and French powered titles there.


Ok new figures in based on the ruling Royals bloodline ..

304 Germany
100 Brazil
97 Schumacherland
79 France
43 Finland
43 Italy
41 Austria
38 Argentina
33 USA
28 Australia (Spain 1980 included)
9 N.Ireland
0 England

1. Scotand is a country, they have their own language, boarder, money, parliament, laws, independance, history and flag!
2. How do you work out that Scotland (65 wins) beats Asturias according to the current recognition of the term - does it have any wins?

Yes but it's not up to you to give them a name is it? They all had their own kingdoms, I'd have like to see you try telling them they were all one country.... Be like telling the Former Yugoslav states that they're still Yugoslavia.

If Schumacherland Exists then I'm claiming any engine made by Ilmor as British ...


thanks.

Well, the Isle of Man has its own language, border, money, parliament, laws, history and flag, and France does not have its own money, so does the Isle of Man > France in independent statehood?

Scotland is not independent. It cannot declare war on anyone.

But I bet they'd like to

No - reference 'High Kings' and trade with scotland

QUOTE (JarnoA @ Aug 25 2009, 20:10)
Per capita, Scotland has the most alcoholics in the uk, and one of the most in the world.

Per capita, Scotland also has the most heroin addicts in the uk, and one of the most in the world.



jokes don't work when they need explaining ????

Dividing with the number of persons in the country would be more interesting!!

Off you go then.

What would be interesting about that?

No joke. Scotland has a higher per capita rate of alcoholics and heroin addicts than the rest of the UK.

Funnily enough, the highest per capita rate of alcoholics is Luxembourg.

Do you see the correlation that Luxembourg has a really small population so per capita is highest?

I am on my G1 at the mo, so url pasting is pretty much impossible.

Look at the uk aa site, and google stuff like per capita heroin addict scotland, and you will see that I am right.

As I sais, per capita favours those with a small population, hence luxembourg topping the alcoholic list.

Should have bought an iPhone then.

*shrugs* I can manage it on my E71

I can cut and paste, but the url isn't shown in the browser.

At least the G1 doesn't explode. In the future suicide bombers will strap a hundred iPhones to themselves and board an airline. As long as they are set to flight mode, they could get away with it.

Is that hard to understand?
Less people in the country= less chance for a fast F1 pilot.

You could do it yourself

Understand, but don't think it's interesting.