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molive
Rubens win at Valencia put Brazil among the countries with 100 or more F1 wins!

It all started with Emerson Fittipaldi, who opened the door to all the others by winning the 1970 US GP. Emmo won 13 times before Jose Carlos Pace's sole win, in the 1975 Brazilian GP.


Here's the selective 3-member club:


1st UK: 207 wins (among England, Scotland and Ireland)

2nd Germany: 106 wins (91 of them by MS!)

3rd Brazil: 100 wins (41 by Senna, 23 by Piquet, 14 by Emerson, 11 by Massa, 10 by Rubens and 01 by Pace).

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primer
QUOTE (molive @ Aug 24 2009, 06:08) *
Rubens win at Valencia put Brazil among the countries with 100 or more F1 wins!


OMG amazing! clap.gif
Have you calculated the wins by astrological signs as well? Who has the maximum wins, Gemini or Scorpio?!
molive
QUOTE (primer @ Aug 23 2009, 21:43) *
OMG amazing! clap.gif
Have you calculated the wins by astrological signs as well? Who has the maximum wins, Gemini or Scorpio?!



Never though of that....but now that you asked, lemme do the research. tongue.gif
cheapracer
How come "UK" stats but not Europe??

UK is a group of countries as you rightly mentioned as Brazil is a part of South America.
ZZMS
so MS is 3rd country behind UK and Brazil? smile.gif A bit like Michael Phelp's stats from recent Games when they showed him at #6 amongst countries and one stage of the Games smile.gif
r4mses
+6 wins by Ralf. That makes 97 wins for the Schumacher family - 3 more during Michael's upcoming comeback (Spa, Monza, Suzuka) and they're 2rd along with Brazil ;)
Atreiu
QUOTE (primer @ Aug 23 2009, 21:43) *
OMG amazing! clap.gif
Have you calculated the wins by astrological signs as well? Who has the maximum wins, Gemini or Scorpio?!



The day they start organizing or recognizing the pilots by their signs, there will be stats to match. In the meantime, don't make a moron of yourself, or at least try not to.

That's quite a selective club, definitely no easy place to get your membership. I hope there's more to come, but it would also come in handy if people started giving attention to open wheel racing again instead of Stock Car (boring) or F-Truck (ridiculous).
FonzCam
QUOTE (cheapracer @ Aug 24 2009, 02:10) *
How come "UK" stats but not Europe??

UK is a group of countries as you rightly mentioned as Brazil is a part of South America.


Because the UK although composed of 4 countries is a single sovereign state. Europe and South America are continents!

British drivers race under a British license and I'm sure that's how stats like this are calculated. A win for Nico Rosberg would be for Germany since that's the license he races on.
ForeverF1
In competitions, the UK is referred to as GB, some even refer to it as GB and Northern Ireland. smile.gif
primer
QUOTE (Atreiu @ Aug 24 2009, 07:37) *
The day they start organizing or recognizing the pilots by their signs, there will be stats to match.


I always though that drivers were 'organized' by the teams they drove for in F1. Perhaps Brazilians can't spot the difference between A1GP and F1. frown.gif
FonzCam
QUOTE (primer @ Aug 24 2009, 06:47) *
I always though that drivers were 'organized' by the teams they drove for in F1. Perhaps Brazilians can't spot the difference between A1GP and F1. frown.gif

Yeah and those anthems they played at the end of the race for the podium ceremony were the anthems of Rubens Barrichello and Brawn GP
lustigson
QUOTE (ForeverF1 @ Aug 24 2009, 07:39) *
In competitions, the UK is referred to as GB, some even refer to it as GB and Northern Ireland. smile.gif

Well, that's because the nation state is called 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. rolleyes.gif
MikeTekRacing
QUOTE (cheapracer @ Aug 24 2009, 04:10) *
How come "UK" stats but not Europe??

UK is a group of countries as you rightly mentioned as Brazil is a part of South America.

usa drivers seem to be "americans", why can't the uk ones be under the same country?
ForeverF1
QUOTE (lustigson @ Aug 24 2009, 08:20) *
Well, that's because the nation state is called 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. rolleyes.gif


But in competitions it is only referred to as GB, not UK. rolleyes.gif

btw, it is the Sovereign Nation not the Nation State. tongue.gif
F1Fanatic.co.uk
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the UK actually has 206 individual Grand Prix wins. A discrepancy might be arising from the 1957 British Grand Prix, which was co-won by Stirling Moss and Tony Brooks.

I'll get my anorak...
Arion
QUOTE (primer @ Aug 24 2009, 00:43) *
OMG amazing! clap.gif
Have you calculated the wins by astrological signs as well? Who has the maximum wins, Gemini or Scorpio?!


It's Capricorn, Schumacher is a Capricorn. biggrin.gif

Clatter
QUOTE (Atreiu @ Aug 24 2009, 03:07) *
The day they start organizing or recognizing the pilots by their signs, there will be stats to match. In the meantime, don't make a moron of yourself, or at least try not to.


It's always funny when someone misses a joke and gets all hot under the collar about it. roflmao.gif
Ferrim
How many does France have? Prost alone is on 51...
wewantourdarbyback
QUOTE (cheapracer @ Aug 24 2009, 02:10) *
UK is a group of countries


I think you'll find it's a sovereign state and therefore one country made up of separate smaller minor countries.

To call the UK a group of countries is the same as calling the US a group of states, we all hold a British passport no matter which part of the country we come from.
frp
QUOTE (molive @ Aug 24 2009, 01:38) *
Rubens win at Valencia put Brazil among the countries with 100 or more F1 wins!

...100 or more wins in qualifying rounds for the World Championship for Drivers and FIA Formula One World Championship. wink.gif
Emmo scored several other F1 wins.
Orin
QUOTE (cheapracer @ Aug 24 2009, 02:10) *
How come "UK" stats but not Europe??

UK is a group of countries as you rightly mentioned as Brazil is a part of South America.


The UK is a state as is Brazil.
Orin
Well done Rubens, and well done Brazil. clap.gif
WDC
wasnt Glock fastest lap also Germany 100?
cheapracer
QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ Aug 24 2009, 18:47) *
I think you'll find it's a sovereign state and therefore one country made up of separate smaller minor countries.


I know a number of Scots that would "rup off ya fooken head and shoot down ya throat" for saying that.

But then again if you said "hello, nice day" to them you may get the same result lol.gif

I assure you Jackie Stewart considers himself Scottish first.

Anyway aren't you all the EC now?
Sure as shit looks like you guys here .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EU_Insigna.svg
r4mses
QUOTE (Ferrim @ Aug 24 2009, 12:43) *
How many does France have? Prost alone is on 51...


79.

QUOTE (WDC @ Aug 24 2009, 13:25) *
wasnt Glock fastest lap also Germany 100?


yep, someone mentioned that during or after the broadcast.
Atreiu
QUOTE (Clatter @ Aug 24 2009, 05:37) *
It's always funny when someone misses a joke and gets all hot under the collar about it. roflmao.gif


If that's a joke, it's got to be the worse ever.
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molive
QUOTE (Atreiu @ Aug 24 2009, 08:27) *
If that's a joke, it's got to be the worse ever.
smile.gif


I admit to some giggling. smile.gif
Pikku Pakkanen
206 UK
106 Germany
100 Brazil
79 France
43 Finland
43 Italy
41 Austria
38 Argentina
33 USA
27 Australia
Rob
QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ Aug 24 2009, 11:47) *
To call the UK a group of countries is the same as calling the US a group of states


47 states and 3 commonwealths smile.gif
Rob
QUOTE (cheapracer @ Aug 24 2009, 12:25) *
I assure you Jackie Stewart considers himself Scottish first.


You can go back to the heptarchy and see that lots of parts of the UK were individual countries once. As much as I claim that I am from the Kingdom of East Anglia, my passport will tell you that I am British.

The UK has been united longer than Germany, so quite why Scotland is considered differently to, for example, Bavaria, I don't know.
JarnoA
QUOTE (FonzCam @ Aug 24 2009, 05:11) *
Because the UK although composed of 4 countries is a single sovereign state. Europe and South America are continents!

British drivers race under a British license and I'm sure that's how stats like this are calculated. A win for Nico Rosberg would be for Germany since that's the license he races on.


Eddie Irvine isn't British, so was he racing a British license?
johnmhinds
Of the none Schumacher German race wins.

Heinz-Harold Frentzen 3 wins
Sebastian Vettel 3 wins.
Wolfgang von Trips 2 wins
Jochen Mass 1 win

I find it amazing that there had only been 3 German wins before Michael Schumacher started racing given the long heritage both German race tracks and German race teams have had.
Rob
If you include all Grandes Epreuves, I'm sure that Germany would be well up there. Lautenschlager, Carraciola, Lang, Rosemeyer, Muller, von Brauchitsch, Stuck, etc. etc.
cardin
QUOTE (Pikku Pakkanen @ Aug 24 2009, 15:38) *
206 UK
106 Germany
100 Brazil
79 France
43 Finland
43 Italy
41 Austria
38 Argentina
33 USA
27 Australia



If you compare wins per capita Finland is unbeatable.
Rob
QUOTE (JarnoA @ Aug 24 2009, 16:10) *
Eddie Irvine isn't British, so was he racing a British license?


Northern Irishmen are from the British Isles, so British is an acceptable term.
wewantourdarbyback
QUOTE (JarnoA @ Aug 24 2009, 16:10) *
Eddie Irvine isn't British, so was he racing a British license?


Northern Ireland = United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland =
JarnoA
QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ Aug 24 2009, 17:36) *
Northern Ireland = United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland =


Indeed, but not Britain.
speedmaster
QUOTE (molive @ Aug 23 2009, 20:38) *
Rubens win at Valencia put Brazil among the countries with 100 or more F1 wins!

It all started with Emerson Fittipaldi, who opened the door to all the others by winning the 1970 US GP. Emmo won 13 times before Jose Carlos Pace's sole win, in the 1975 Brazilian GP.


Here's the selective 3-member club:


1st UK: 207 wins (among England, Scotland and Ireland)

2nd Germany: 106 wins (91 of them by MS!)

3rd Brazil: 100 wins (41 by Senna, 23 by Piquet, 14 by Emerson, 11 by Massa, 10 by Rubens and 01 by Pace).

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We should not forget Ricardo Achcar that was the first one to move to England and win a F3 title opening the door for all that you've wrote. Great driver by Rubens....The grandaddy still has something to offer...

Cheers.... Rubens first at Interlagos ( he deserves it ) with Massa in second.... and why not Piquet third in a Ferrari? drunk.gif


JarnoA
QUOTE (Rob @ Aug 24 2009, 16:35) *
Northern Irishmen are from the British Isles, so British is an acceptable term.


Dublin is a city in the British Isles, that doesn't make a Dubliner British.
Orin
QUOTE (JarnoA @ Aug 24 2009, 17:59) *
Dublin is a city in the British Isles, that doesn't make a Dubliner British.


British is shorthand for belonging to the UK, therefore Irvine can claim to be both British and Irish. Some Northern Irish insist that they're British but not Irish.
Pikku Pakkanen
Eddie Irvine wanted to be Irish, had an Irish license, but had to represent Britain. Just like the Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians had to represent Soviet Union.

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At his first podium, a third place for Jordan at the 1995 Canadian Grand Prix, the British Union Flag was flown. However, at his third podium, a second place for Ferrari at the 1997 Argentine Grand Prix, an Irish Tricolour was mistakenly flown by the race organisers. This led to his family receiving threatening phone calls. Irvine then requested that at subsequent races, a politically neutral shamrock flag be flown, and the non-sectarian Londonderry Air be played to mark a victory. An FIA spokesman said: "As far as we understand, Irvine has a British passport so the Union Jack should be raised. ... I understand he has a special flag, but our regulations do not allow this."

Irvine has self-identified as being Irish: "But at the end of the day, I’m Irish. I mean, I’ve got a British passport, but if you’re from Ireland, north or south, you’re Irish. And 'British' is. . . such a nondescript thing, isn’t it?"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Irvine
wewantourdarbyback
QUOTE (Pikku Pakkanen @ Aug 24 2009, 18:23) *
Eddie Irvine wanted to be Irish, had an Irish license, but had to represent Britain. Just like the Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians had to represent Soviet Union.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Irvine



That's a big can of worms to open mate, if you're from Northern Ireland you're from the United Kingdom. The protestant majority want it to stay that way whilst the Catholic minority want to be part of Ireland and that's putting it in the most simplistic terms I can.

It's not the subject for this forum, but they are from the UK, so the Union Flag represents them, if he wants to he could have emigrated, but he didn't.
wewantourdarbyback
QUOTE (JarnoA @ Aug 24 2009, 17:59) *
Dublin is a city in the British Isles, that doesn't make a Dubliner British.

Dublin is in Ireland, not the United Kingdom. What term do you want us to use for someone from the United Kingdom then other than British?
Rob
Is Andy Priaulx not British then? He's not from the island of Great Britain, but the island of Guernsey.
Zeroninety
QUOTE (Rob @ Aug 24 2009, 14:47) *
Is Andy Priaulx not British then? He's not from the island of Great Britain, but the island of Guernsey.


Guernsey is a British Crown Dependency (as are Jersey and Man). Its residents have no representation in Parliament, but they are considered UK citizens. According to his wikipedia page, Priaulx races under a British license. Guernsey doesn't have a national member federation with the FIA, though there doesn't seem to be anything to prevent non-sovereign states from joining (Puerto Rico and Macau have member federations). If Guernsey did have separate membership in the FIA, Priaulx would likely drive under a Guernsey license.
Pegaso
QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ Aug 24 2009, 19:32) *
Dublin is in Ireland, not the United Kingdom. What term do you want us to use for someone from the United Kingdom then other than British?


The players of North Ireland who play for Ireland's rugby national team, can't be called Irish?

Edit: I mean, even if they are British that doesn't mean that they are not Irish.
ensign14
QUOTE (Pikku Pakkanen @ Aug 24 2009, 18:23) *
Eddie Irvine wanted to be Irish, had an Irish license, but had to represent Britain. Just like the Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians had to represent Soviet Union.

In his first F1 press conference back in '93 Irvine explained that his helmet colours were orange, because he was a Protestant, and green, to stop the IRA from shooting him.

Fact is, any driver can claim to be from anywhere. Zuber races under a UAE licence, Piquet under a Brazilian one, even though they're Austrian and German by birth. And Damien Magee was from Northern Ireland but raced under an Irish licence.
scheivlak
QUOTE (ensign14 @ Aug 24 2009, 23:53) *
Fact is, any driver can claim to be from anywhere. Zuber races under a UAE licence, Piquet under a Brazilian one, even though they're Austrian and German by birth. And Damien Magee was from Northern Ireland but raced under an Irish licence.

Interesting that you can be a German by birth with a Brazilian father and a Dutch mother, didn't know that!
Pikku Pakkanen
QUOTE (ensign14 @ Aug 25 2009, 01:53) *
Fact is, any driver can claim to be from anywhere. Zuber races under a UAE licence, Piquet under a Brazilian one, even though they're Austrian and German by birth. And Damien Magee was from Northern Ireland but raced under an Irish licence.



FIA International Sporting Code:

"All drivers, irrespective of the nationality of their licence, participating in any FIA World Championship event, shall retain the nationality of their passport in all official documents, meetings, information bulletins and prize-giving ceremonies."


http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/D..._AGNov08ANG.pdf
LB
QUOTE (cardin @ Aug 24 2009, 16:33) *
If you compare wins per capita Finland is unbeatable.


Well until Scotland gets independence anyway as we sit on 66 I think off the top of my head with 5 WDC to Finlands 4
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