Sabotage was a sabotage An English journalist clarifies it:



John L Sharp's view of Fernando vs Lewis
EG writes: John L Sharp drives a Ferrari, supports Ferrari and reads this blog. A disinterested observer then. Here is his analysis of the key moments of the season which he sent in as a comment and reply to Chris.

MONACO: where this muddle started. Team orders were issued (to slow down) to preserve the engine for the next race (when Alonso, after 2nd pit stop had a +10sec advantage on Hamilton and close to 1 min on Massa). Alonso limited his car rpm down to 17000 rpm. Hamilton "failed" to listen and his complaint initiated an FIA investigation. No foul play. Alonso faster than Hamilton!

INDIANAPOLIS: No orders were given to reduce rpms. Alonso was undoubtedly faster than Hamilton. Alonso tried just once to overtake Hamilton. Failed, but his reaction in the following lap suggested that maybe, just maybe, he was stopped from trying again by team orders. At least this would have been the consensus amongst English press should that have happened the other way round!! Alonso did not "request" the FIA to investigate what to everyone's eyes was more suspicious than what had "happened" in MONACO. Yes, Hamilton won the US GP (but Alonso outpaced Hamilton there!)And this includes all way throughout Q1, Q2 and Q3, until the very last extra flying lap (as also occurred previously in Canada).And we know that this season, apart from when there is a mechanical failure or significant human error, P1 is equivalent to victory (that's why enjoying that extra flying lap in Q3 is soooo important - with less fuel)

MAGNY-COURS: mechanical problems for Alonso with the gear change system and suspension hydraulics or electronics. I can't remember now. No foul play. Probably bad luck?. Hamilton faster than Alonso!

SILVERSTONE: pole for Hamilton (this was clearly planned to satisfy British supporters). We know what happened after. Alonso faster than Hamilton!

NURBURGRING: Hamilton's incident. Alonso had the same problem with his car. Only he was luckier. I could not compare performances as Hamilton may have been physically in a poorer condition. But I have to give Alonso the benefit of the doubt in this one. Alonso faster than Hamilton!

HUNGARORING: the second incident. Naughty boys (both Hamilton and Alonso)! Alonso actually was faster when he did his best lap (faster than Hamilton with same fuel loads). Of course, Hamilton intentions were to steal Alonso's extra lap knowing than P1= Victory in here. He wanted to enjoy that extra flying lap (and with less fuel load) so it was likely he could have improved Alonso's lap. But on equal levels of fuel Alonso was faster. And do not forget, it was Alonso’s turn to enjoy the extra flying lap (Hamilton prevented him from doing so). FIA sanction absolutely inappropriate. Hamilton should now have 2 points less and Alonso 5 more (as surely Alonso would have won that race and Hamilton would have finished 2nd or third). Unfortunately for Alonso, the "judges" were a British, a German and a Chinese (it is like having an English referee in the World Cup Final between England and Spain - biased decision!). Curiously same British guy that investigated the Japanese SC mess.

TURKEY: relatively bad luck for Hamilton. Maybe he was pushing too hard and not looking after his tyres properly. Relatively because luckily for him, the tyre burst two or three corners before pit entry so he was able to finish 5th. However, Hamilton was faster!

MONZA: Alonso faster. As simple as that!

SPA: Alonso faster. As simple as that! Poisonous strategy (Hamilton 5 extra laps 2nd stint). Not investigated by FIA. Hamilton's lack of speed prevented him from overtaking Alonso. Naughty Ron .

JAPAN: Alonso's accident. Difficult weather conditions! Erratic driving behind SC. FIA does not sanction Hamilton. Abnormal real tyre pressures after 1st pit stop. Overinflation. However, let's say that Hamilton was faster than Alonso, and luckier!

CHINA: Alonso faster than Hamilton, except Q3 by 0.6 sec! Tyre pressures used in Q3 appear to be overheated causing increase of pressure, measured at 1.5 psi - normally 0.2 psi. Max Mosley and FIA are aware of this and highly suspicious. Foul play, however, would be difficult to prove. Hamilton faster in Q3, but is that real or due to some sort of manipulation? The race as expected. From P1 usually you will maintain the momentum (independently of who you are). Poor tyre treatment: Hamilton was clearly abusing intermediate tyres, driving over dried tarmac, overheating and gradually destroying them. Yes, you get more speed that way but the life span greatly diminishes. And he paid for it. Bad luck, though.

FINALLY: There have been circuits were Alonso has been clearly faster during free practice, Q1, Q2 and most of Q3 until the very last lap, when Hamilton with the extra flying lap (less fuel, do not forget) has secured P1 –. The Team, since Canada, has been clearly helping strategically Hamilton's interests and Alonso is not stupid and realises that. One now wonders whether a “magic” hand has been playing little tricks on Alonso. Nothing surprises me these days.

CONCLUSION: Maybe everybody was expecting Alonso to run easily away with the title. However, once the Team realised that Hamilton was very good, strategy changed to silently benefit/favour the McLaren breed driver. Proof for this is that the number of extra flying laps that Hamilton has enjoyed is 7 against 2 of Alonso (at the beginning of the season). And after Brazil it surely will be 8 against 2. And we know that overtaking is not easy these days (so there are huge team interests on securing P1, and surely this is the aim of McLaren for Hamilton in Brazil). This can be achieved by giving Hamilton once more the extra flying lap and if he struggles, maybe overcooking certain drivers rubber.
Equality is a nice word, but from now on it sounds to me like pathological thinking coming from Ron's mouth.
I just can’t imagine how difficult it has been for Alonso to keep focused (and I could extend on the psychological war launched by McLaren against Alonso after Monza, including Hamilton's comments (always under the protection of Ron).
If you ask me, I would love to see Kimi Raikonnen getting this one. But if Alonso wins, no doubt it will be a great and well-deserved achievement. Frankly, if Kimi fails, I would enjoy Alonso clinching this one.
I do not trust Ron, I do not trust McLaren, I do not trust Hamilton.
And the last stupid comments (by Ron Dennis) reinforce my well established, deep-rooted opinion.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/formula_one...l-sharps-v.html

If an Englishman says it it he is to be true. Sharp is very objective always. Hamilton and McLaren are swindlers.

My god, my god and I without finding out .

Another groundhog day thread.

do we really need to revive this with some random person's mutterings?

Go away.

Isn't it 2009 now?

So don't care.

Welcome to the forum.

"An English journalist"

But stop bullshitting ("John L Sharp drives a Ferrari, supports Ferrari and reads this blog").

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Albioncita

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This gives it all away

Your very first thread...is one we didn't need!

Ever word true. Alonso was better and Hamilton is a cheater with Mclaren Weve seen it before well see it again

Hello? Can anyone help, I think I'm lost. I was looking for Autosport but seem to be in the Twilight Zone. Or is it the X-Files? The Truth is out there...

Good analysis. Very accurate instead of the usual distorted british 'truth'.

Wait...

If I find an Spanish dude, whomever, who reads blogs and drive, say, Ford.. And get him to say stupid stuff such as the above, only in reverse. Will that make "it it he is to be true. Oh my god etc." ?

a formal complaint was sent to FIA signed by thousands of spaniards highlighting some of these points

My o my, the quality of posts are getting better and better ... /ignore

October 10th 2007...

stop trolling Alonzo (it's obviously you)

Nice try idiot. But what i said is true. Mclaren and Hamilton did cheat. This year in fact. Want to deny it??
Why cant it be said without you fanboys crying. Lewis is my fav driver by the way.

This is what happens when the mentally challenged get left alone in front of a keyboard for 5 minutes....

Terrible analysis. Extremely inaccurate and one-sided, just like the usual Spanish distorted "truth".

Because if you care to do a search and do a bit of research you will see it has all been discussed to death several times already. It gets boring when the same old nonsense is brought up time and time again.

Lol ... internet users these days make it way too damn easy for trolls

I loved how Alonso reacted after Hungary that season when his team clearly wanted him to fail. If only he had raced like that in the first part of the season!

Does "Albioncita" mean beating a dead horse in Spanish?

Some people just cant let sleeping dogs lay.

Then dont come into the thread. No ones forcing you to read it. You may not like the content but its still a relevant motorsport topic. If no one wants to discuss it it will dissapear in no time and your safe little forum will be all cuddly for you wimps.

I thought for a moment there I was at least reading something new...but the article is 2 years old.

Time for you to invest in broadband.

can you explain why is inaccurate? did not hamilton enjoy 7 extra laps for 2 of alonso? is that inaccurate?

it's funny when those who can't find an accurate answer use that easy tag "spanish distorted truth"

is that distorted truth that one which forced fernando to say things like

"my confidence in this team is zero"
"they are not happy (in hungary) because I did pole (not hamilton)"
"I'd prefer end up fourth or fifth with renault than 1st with mclaren and not enjoy the victory"?

ormaybe that distorted truth which forced dennis to say "we are racing fernando, not kimi"?

god god god...these spaniards and their floating minds

Its the predictable context and the timing of these types of threads that I enjoy analysing. I shouldn't, but I do.

I bet I know exactly where the FIA filed that then.

Breaking news chaps.......

Spanish Armada defeated in 1588......

Kind of sums up how badly downhill The Times has gone, employing Journalists who quote people who reply to their blog, you might as well go and ask an F1 driver who is leading the WDC if he really wants to win the WDC, oh wait...

Under B for bollocks probably.

However, I guess if there was a shred of evidence pointing to it then the FIA would've jumped on McLaren like a dog on heat. And then handed them a whopping great fine.

But they didn't

What do you mean with this?

fanboy

It means ''I'm a huge faggot, please rape my face''.

maybe they filed it inside the garage of mclaren, or used it to fine them, or maybe the steward who checked all the actions in brazil was holding it...who knows...

Alonso loves chicken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-57Thiyvy8

was there a steward checking all movements in brazil?

Well thought out and presented. I think it would be hard to go against these thoughts, but then again it seems Hamilton supporters have always been blinded when anything is written or said against their driver.

Oh well, the British have always been big supporters of their own, even to a fault. As you can see by the responses of the British forumers on this topic, they will not accept fact (unless it supports their side of things), but would rather go with their own truths. It was clear as day for F1 fans to see that McLaren were giving Hamilton more support than Fernando during the second half of the season. If things had have been truly fair in the McLaren team I believe that Hamilton would not have tied Alonso on points but would have finished the season behind Fernando. I don't mean to take anything away from Hamilton, he's a very talented driver. Not as good as the British press would have us believe, but a very, very talented driver. Is he better than Fernando? Not just yet, but Hamilton has it all at his finger tips to become one of the better GP drivers we have seen. Time will tell.

You're an idiot in full bloom.

review the 2007 season and you'll work out the answer.

to sum up, with the publicly-commented decision of equaty between both drivers, they used to carry the same amount of fuel and...depending on their positions for the race the team would dictate strategies according to, well, that was presumably the equaty that mclaren gave both drivers, but bear in mind that in 2007, the more laps you made in qualy the more fuel you used, and considering that just had 10 min, only one of the two pilots had the chance to quick entry the pits and attempt a third extra lap with the consequent lighter weight,
and hamilton enjoyed 7 extra laps and alonso just 2, it was a massively difference within mclaren allegedly declared equaty

What a shirtlifter.

Piss west.

oh dear! T1 Australia 2007 end of story... next!

Is Hamilton a better F1 driver? Well if being an F1 means gaining the support of your team and beating what is put in front of you then yes ... Hamilton is better!

Look at how Alonso at Renault. i don't see all the threads about him receiving preferential treatment over Piquet?!?!? WHY.... COZ HE PLAYS THE SAME GAME AS HAMILTON!!!! the only thing is Hamilton over the last 3 years played the game better and thus a better F1 driver.

If people want to analyse who is truly the best driver in the world then F1 aint your game. 50% of the drivers wouldn't even win a club kart race let alone an F1 race! F1 is a game.... and it's how you play it that matters. Some fools just don't understand this

mods please lock the BS thread.

What a comedy thread! Lewis is the best and Sebastian second best and they still improve as they are still learning. Alonso is talented but overrated in my opnion.

Yeah, those spaniards and their crazy theories about "McLaren throwing objects at Alonso's car at night"

They had the same number of laps with exceptions of Hungary and GB, it was nowhere near the score 7:2.
And as for Alonso was faster in Hungary, well thats nonsense anyway, Hamilton never did his hot lap when track improved the most.
Opening posts analysis is just big LOL.

Very true! He would be exposed and beaten by Massa or Kimi when he comes to Ferrari.