QUOTE (engel @ Aug 30 2009, 13:23) 
So ... in a few corners we 'll have Ferrari First and Last
Few more and Ferrari will be lapping Ferrari.
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Few more and Ferrari will be lapping Ferrari.
Trulli is the real loser here, getting stucked behind Badoer. Barrichello who passed Badoer on Lap 6 is now 8sec ahead of Trulli.
-KB
-KB
QUOTE (engel @ Aug 30 2009, 04:23)
So ... in a few corners we 'll have Ferrari First and Last
If the car breaker does not destroy his ferrari.., let's bet when he pass the second ferrari -. before first pit already?
QUOTE (Clatter @ Aug 30 2009, 14:22)
Yes, It's well known that the run off area there is gripper than the track.
I presume you mean 'slippier'?
Räikkönen sure doesn´t fear the painted lines; he almost goes on grass while braking. Häkkinen was the another driver who did that.
QUOTE (NSV @ Aug 30 2009, 13:21)
Just heard Grosjean on TV, Button closed the door on him 'cause he didn't see the Renault. They had a talk after the crash, it's Button himself that told that to RG.
JB on the BBC, Grosjeam outbraked himself. It's BS if he is trying to blame JB.
Alonso is having a quite decent pace with fuel for 22 laps more. And he's 9th now. I think he'll pass some cars.
QUOTE (Beamer @ Aug 30 2009, 13:27)
I presume you mean 'slippier'?
No.
The runoff areas use a much grippier tarmac to help the cars slow down if they have a problem. If they used slippery tarmac there would be more and bigger accidents.
QUOTE (Beamer @ Aug 30 2009, 13:27)
I presume you mean 'slippier'?
Grippier
QUOTE (Clatter @ Aug 30 2009, 04:16)
KERS advantage gets KR into first, but what a bore, completely removes the driver skill element.
You are right - but I remember that SPA was drivers' track.
Is that right, anyone?
Shame about Button, Thats what you get when you get novices on the grid.
All the hatered against Kimi amazes me. There were no talk about penalty when Alonso did that in exactly the same place before.
Fisi seems to make his fuel go a long way :S
Nice one, Red Bull. Prats.........
QUOTE (mmmm @ Aug 30 2009, 15:31)
You are right - but I remember that SPA was drivers' track.
Is that right, anyone?
Is that right, anyone?
Only when they're favourite is driving well, of course.
Webber has to get drive thru for that release. He has been let off a few things lately, but surely not that one.
QUOTE (lokiman @ Aug 30 2009, 12:34)
Nice one, Red Bull. Prats.........
They keep doing those unsafe releases
That's a certain penalty for Webber.
Nice guy, but Webber is the dirtiest driver in F1 today.
If Kimi wins his fansboys will go mental
Alonso's still taking his seat
Alonso's still taking his seat
QUOTE (Les @ Aug 30 2009, 12:35)
That's a certain penalty for Webber.
he might get away with it, he let Heidfeld through on track. But he should get a penalty, Redbull keep doing the same thing over and over
QUOTE (Oracle @ Aug 30 2009, 13:33)
All the hatered against Kimi amazes me. There were no talk about penalty when Alonso did that in exactly the same place before.
I remember similar comments being made years ago. The general opinion is that we can't understand why the FIA don't stamp down on it.
QUOTE (potmotr @ Aug 30 2009, 13:35)
Nice guy, but Webber is the dirtiest driver in F1 today.
Eh?
Webber is totally dependant on the team telling him when to go.
He can't even see the other car coming. How is that his fault?
QUOTE (potmotr @ Aug 30 2009, 13:35)
Nice guy, but Webber is the dirtiest driver in F1 today.
I agree that he is, but that was the team's fault, not his.
QUOTE (engel @ Aug 30 2009, 13:36)
he might get away with it, he let Heidfeld through on track. But he should get a penalty, Redbull keep doing the same thing over and over
IMHO it's because they have been allowed to get away with it in the past. They did exactly the same only last race.
QUOTE (Clatter @ Aug 30 2009, 13:36)
I remember similar comments being made years ago. The general opinion is that we can't understand why the FIA don't stamp down on it.
Similar comments were, indeed, made.
Well done FIA about time a dodgy release got a penalty.
QUOTE (lokiman @ Aug 30 2009, 13:37)
I agree that he is, but that was the team's fault, not his.
That's true, but he still tried to ease Heidfeld into the pitwall.
He's the king of intimidation.
Not so bad in the pitlane, but super dangerous on the track.
Anyway..
QUOTE (NSV @ Aug 30 2009, 13:21)
Just heard Grosjean on TV, Button closed the door on him 'cause he didn't see the Renault. They had a talk after the crash, it's Button himself that told that to RG.
Driver in "Not My Fault" Shocker. The replays make it blindingly obvious that Grosjean missed his braking. Button told the Beeb that Grosjean forgot to brake.
what's up with fisi keeping up with kimi? 
QUOTE (potmotr @ Aug 30 2009, 04:35)
Nice guy, but Webber is the dirtiest driver in F1 today.
He should follow Kimi, he is clean. Having sauna at least twice a week .
That is why he likes KERS, he just trhow some water on the hot system (like owen). Only missing bunch of leaves and a lake (or sea)
QUOTE (NSV @ Aug 30 2009, 14:21)
Just heard Grosjean on TV, Button closed the door on him 'cause he didn't see the Renault. They had a talk after the crash, it's Button himself that told that to RG.
Talk about someone over-reacting without having a clue.
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Aug 30 2009, 12:40)
what's up with fisi keeping up with kimi?
Isn´t Fisi on soft tyres?
QUOTE (potmotr @ Aug 30 2009, 07:39)
That's true, but he still tried to ease Heidfeld into the pitwall.
He's the king of intimidation.
Not so bad in the pitlane, but super dangerous on the track.
Anyway..
He's the king of intimidation.
Not so bad in the pitlane, but super dangerous on the track.
Anyway..
Disagree
A little bump in the pitlane and how many members of the pitcrews might be run over??
The stewards announce that the incident on lap one between Jenson Button and Romain Grosjean will be investigated after the race.
QUOTE (Spunout @ Aug 30 2009, 18:42)
Isn´t Fisi on soft tyres?
are they faster?
Badoer purple in sector 1
QUOTE (mountford @ Aug 30 2009, 13:42)
The stewards announce that the incident on lap one between Jenson Button and Romain Grosjean will be investigated after the race.
Also the LH/JA one. Lets see if the new boys get a penalty, not that it really helps the victims.
1. Raikkonen
2. Fisichella
3. Kubica
It seems so far.
2. Fisichella
3. Kubica
It seems so far.
Trulli Train?
BADOER BARGE!
BADOER BARGE!
OMG 
three Ferraris leading the race
Raikkonen
Fisi
Alonso
three Ferraris leading the raceRaikkonen
Fisi
Alonso
QUOTE (OfficeLinebacker @ Aug 30 2009, 07:13)
y not? He took the long way 'round.
Did Kimi get punted up the bum?
That was an AMAZING start though....he has great reflexes to juke around the stalled Rubens, avoid mayhem in turn one, and come out of the first lap running.
Guys, on lap 2, Luca BADoer is in purple. This is the last time that will ever happen....or that his name will appear on the timing screens, for that matter.
Did Kimi get punted up the bum?
That was an AMAZING start though....he has great reflexes to juke around the stalled Rubens, avoid mayhem in turn one, and come out of the first lap running.
Guys, on lap 2, Luca BADoer is in purple. This is the last time that will ever happen....or that his name will appear on the timing screens, for that matter.
In the purple while under yellow waiting on safety car......
and NO PENALTY for Kimi??
Give the ferrari-spa stewards credit!!!
No difference there than what Lewis did on a wet and slippery track last year, except due to weather, Lewis had an excuse. Kimi does NOT.
It was awfully nice of Ferrari to supply the FIA with a mobile chicane for the race.
QUOTE (Clatter @ Aug 30 2009, 14:44)
Also the LH/JA one. Lets see if the new boys get a penalty, not that it really helps the victims.
A penalty for exactly what?
Alonso is having a great race, he only needs to stop 1 time and might be loosing time when he comes back, but he's taking a lot of positions with that strategy, that is working of course due his nice pace.
QUOTE (Pegaso @ Aug 30 2009, 13:48)
A penalty for exactly what?
Maybe you need to watch a bit more and then you might understand.
What is going on with badour, 4 laps in a row purple 1st sector, slow in the 2nd decent in the 3rd?
Where are the splits?
Where are the splits?
Problematic for Kimi...He's not gonna make it.
I find it a bit schizophrenic that in the FOTA raw FIA planned to sue and say goodbye to Ferrari and now some think they are helping Ferrari again. But maybe the fan-boys have nothing else to follow when Ham crashed.
Man, Fisi is right on Kimi's gearbox.
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