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wewantourdarbyback
QUOTE (Jedi_F1 @ Sep 2 2009, 21:51) *
Euhm.. I always experienced just the opposite of what you tell.. yes not everything is plain positive fun stuff around the track or on the rally stages... but those fans aren't really the ones that we appriciate .. just like the good footie fans hate hooligans.

but for example: I never seen a McLaren fans fighting Ferrari fans,
I'm pretty sure drugs is a social problem, not a sports problem, and it's not something any track CEO would like to see .... and I'm pretty sure some fans use it in football grounds too...
btw I never experienced a body search when I entered a race track? which on most footie grounds is still a common use... before you enter.

Well that's bollocks, I've never been searched in the 500+ odd football matches I've been to whereas I had my bag searched on entering Silverstone this year.


As for your comments about fighting, I have genuinely never seen a fight in a football stadium, never.
wewantourdarbyback
QUOTE (FlatOverCrest @ Sep 3 2009, 02:44) *
Now troll off somewhere else

Actually he merely rebutted your unprovoked attack on us Football fans.
Clatter
QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ Sep 3 2009, 16:11) *
Well that's bollocks, I've never been searched in the 500+ odd football matches I've been to whereas I had my bag searched on entering Silverstone this year.


As for your comments about fighting, I have genuinely never seen a fight in a football stadium, never.


I agree about the searching. I don't know where Jedi goes, but I've never been subjected to a body search at any ground I've ever visited. Maybe we look too honest and Jedi looks like a hooligan wink.gif

As to the fighting, you can't deny it happens. For whatever reason football seems to attract an element that the majority of other sports do not.
Ross Stonefeld
Who cares about the opinion of football fans anyways.
Jedi_F1
QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ Sep 3 2009, 16:11) *
Well that's bollocks, I've never been searched in the 500+ odd football matches I've been to whereas I had my bag searched on entering Silverstone this year.


As for your comments about fighting, I have genuinely never seen a fight in a football stadium, never.


Let's close this useless Football fans vs Motorsports fans discussion... you seem to like Motorsport too.. otherwise you wouldn't be here! :-)
And as we have both different opinions, loves for some sport and experiences in it, the truth is somewhere between.
Jedi_F1
QUOTE (Clatter @ Sep 3 2009, 16:17) *
Maybe we look too honest and Jedi looks like a hooligan ;)


yep maybe I do? smile.gif

skinheaded and a big tattoo on my forehead that says: "I will kill you with my lightsaber anytime!" mad.gif
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FlatOverCrest
QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ Sep 3 2009, 08:11) *
Well that's bollocks, I've never been searched in the 500+ odd football matches I've been to whereas I had my bag searched on entering Silverstone this year.
As for your comments about fighting, I have genuinely never seen a fight in a football stadium, never.


Er... I must have been to 20 odd Leeds matches when I was at Uni there in the early 90's and probably saw at least that number of fights in some parts of the stadium at Elland Road.. So I disagree with you there.. Oh and seen more than my fair share of "disagreements" at the Kings Road...

As to bag searching.... The British GP is a national event that terrorists may find interesting as a target... a football match....not so much.... they have more chance getting the living poop kicked out them before they could press the red button shouting "Allah is .......(SMACK)...." as said fan who hit him shouts...."take that you Allah FC scum"....

again...if you read carefully I did not "attack" ALL football fans....just the majority that choose to get involved in making the atmosphere of a game hostile...

Speaking of hostile....the nearest thing you come to that here at an American Football game is an Oakland Raiders game... that place is a zoo! Whereas most other NFL team games, fans from all sides happily sit in the stadium together without an issue...

There is reason most football grounds have a "Home and away" end....its to keep the muppets apart and those who just want to watch a good game of football are all stuck inbetween!
noikeee
QUOTE (FlatOverCrest @ Sep 3 2009, 20:41) *
the early 90's


When it was a freaking war. I've never been to England, but it's widely known that they've gone to great lengths to get rid of hooliganism since that time. I'm sure things are much much better now.

Anyway, as I said official organizations of supporters often are composed by a lot of neanderthals. Apart from them (which are actually a very small minority) there are hundreds of millions of peaceful but passionate footie fans who do not have an "IQ of 1".
ezequiel
Pizzonia and Guerrieri flying as usual... Bourdais still needs to improve: in that car Guerrieri was one of the two or three fastest men in Donington, despite he couldn't rounf up a good race result (because of Gommendy spinning him off and a battery problem)
Slyder
Request answered. Bourdais finishes second after fighting with Parente, and now has won the Super final.

I knew it! Put him in a good car and he can excel. smile.gif
noikeee
Parente also won on his first weekend up.gif

Missed the race as after last night anything before 3PM was a little too early for me. biggrin.gif
Cenotaph
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Sep 6 2009, 15:52) *
Parente also won on his first weekend up.gif

Missed the race as after last night anything before 3PM was a little too early for me. biggrin.gif


Parente is making a habit out of winning in the first weekends, it seems biggrin.gif he's great, tbh. I think he deserves more attention as a potential F1 driver.

Btw, glad Porto finally got a portuguese driver, personally im a Benfica fan so i dont care for Porto or Sporting but still i think it makes much more sense to have a portuguese in those cars. If you have the car at least use it to support national drivers like A1GP does.
ezequiel
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Sep 6 2009, 15:52) *
Parente also won on his first weekend up.gif

Missed the race as after last night anything before 3PM was a little too early for me. biggrin.gif



Parente is very good material, how much people can take pole and win for a pretty much mediocre team like Ocean in GP2 right now? He already was great in WSR, he was much faster than teammate Joulien Jousse, who's a top F2 driver now...
Bourdais consistently improved in the races. Of course he was benefited for the reverse grid system in race 2, but his laptimes in the first race were more and more solid; and he held Guerrieri with style in the superfinal.
A pity for Pizzonia, pole position is becoming a curse to him.
I hope John Booth has been watching Guerrieri this weekend: superb race 1 win
noikeee
I reckon by now Ocean isn't mediocre, it isn't BCN anymore; think he's had something to do with their upturn in form though.
Gregor Marshall
QUOTE (Ross Stonefeld @ Sep 3 2009, 16:21) *
Who cares about the opinion of football fans anyways.


Coz maybe some of us are big fans of both and also participants of both also??
The BTCC tries to get team support so why couldn't it work getting "any" team sponsored by a footy club? The Lister Storm and Newcastcle did well in GTs.
roadie
Seems like Bourdais' win wasn't the clear cut, feel good story that it appeared to be at the time. From here:
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But the quick turnaround required was lost on Bourdais, who was besieged by media interviews, and he left the pitlane late. While the other cars waited for him on the super final grid, they overheated.

Apparently, the 3 drivers in front of him on the grid all suffered from heat related problems, which allowed him to pass them!
ezequiel
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Sep 6 2009, 21:29) *
I reckon by now Ocean isn't mediocre, it isn't BCN anymore; think he's had something to do with their upturn in form though.


They are not in a best form than BCN in 2005 and 2006 (rememeber Viso and Yoshi ocasionally fighting for podiums and gettin in the top 15 of the championship?) and of course they are not in the level of ART, Barwa or Racing Engeneering...
Frans
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Apparently, the 3 drivers in front of him on the grid all suffered from heat related problems, which allowed him to pass them!


yeah .... well, how ELSE could this duude win anything? .... hahaha
potmotr
Bourdais winning again...


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79260
ezequiel
Does anyone know why the series didn't allow extreme low downforce setups? it's a pity, they are racing 12 seconds off the pace of a GP2 car...
Mark521
Now he has finished 3rd in the second race after starting last due to the inverted grid from the first race's finishing order. He is also the overall weekend winner and picks up another 100,000 euros. Not too bad for a "washed up" or "never has been" driver. lol.gif
kaivo
Very Crazy race was today.
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