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lympog
What happened to all the talk of Jonathan Summerton being the 2nd driver? That seems to have died down very suddenly
Jackman
No money.
BRK
Would be good to have an Argentinean in F1 again,although I know next to nothing of Lopez.
Just waiting
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Sep 18 2009, 06:28) *
USF1 will take the best drivers available to them.

Danica Patrick has a history of poor results on road and street circuits.

Fomula One is a calendar made up entirely of road an street circuits.

Therefore, Danica Patrick is not one of the best drivers available to USF1.

I said american born, u got someone better, who is american born?

Anyway if they want the best available driver with proven talent for helping teams win, there is Nelson, Jr.

He might do it for free and Pop would probably pay some big bucks.....of course he might have to skip the Singapore race..... love.gif
Just waiting
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Sep 18 2009, 06:28) *
USF1 will take the best drivers available to them.

Danica Patrick has a history of poor results on road and street circuits.

Fomula One is a calendar made up entirely of road an street circuits.

Therefore, Danica Patrick is not one of the best drivers available to USF1.

http://motorsports.fanhouse.com/2009/09/18...sappointment%2F

ezequiel
QUOTE (Jackman @ Sep 18 2009, 20:42) *
It's funny how Argentineans never mention Hockenheim where Lopez was leading the race and choked under pressure from Glock on the last lap...

Lopez was probably lucky to have Fauzy as a teammate for both years in GP2: he couldn't look too bad when his teammate is unable to score a point. Kind of like having Tahinci as a teammate. But he had two years, didn't show anything, and was let go by Renault: he can hardly claim he didn't get a fair go at it. He was quick in qualy but always seemed to fall backwards in races, so it would be pretty unlikely that he'd get a call up to F1 now.

And if he has that sort of money behind him, why didn't he go back to GP2 and prove his worth?



He ran out of tires in Hockenheim and couldn't hold Glock's pressure, true. but he climb from last to 7th in race one in a spectacular way.
Fauzy is a decent driver, and considering his performances in GP2 Asia and Tahinci's you easily know who's better
He didn't have money to continue racing internationalyy at least at a good level when Renault dropped him. And the money he has know is not because of his manager or his dad working on to get it, it's because the ACA has initiated a project to take a driver into F1 and they chose L贸pez, so it is the ACA money and sponsors, not L贸pez's. Why to choose L贸pez and not the best option, Esteban Guerrieri? I guess because they wanted a driver who's racing in Argentina right know, as they did with their silly GT1 project last year.
ezequiel
The ACA has officially revealed that they are negotiating with two teams right now: US and Campos, so L贸pez is running for a seat in any of those teams. But, as there haven't been muchmore news as it was expected in the last days, it is possible that:
1) the ACA is having some trouble to get the budget (aprox. 8 million euros)
2)they are waiting to see what the hell happens with all the team and driver moves, so L贸pez could finally race in some other team...
CWeil
It's funny how nobody has mentioned that this is Lopez, and thus the money simply isn't going to be enough, if you know what I mean.

He's been out of Europe for a couple years now- I can't believe this is even worth reporting.
ezequiel
http://www.corsaonline.com.ar/2009/11/10/N...a-el-equipo.php

"L贸pez would be a great driver for the team", said Peter Windsor in a recent interview to sports magazine Ol茅. Here I translate to you some extracts form Corsa On Line:

"The first connection I had with Jos茅 Mar铆a L贸pez was thru a letter sent to me by Bernie Ecclestone. Then, I contacted Carlos Reutemann. That's why, when I talk about Jos茅 Mar铆a I do it based on what Carlos tells me"

"Until we sign a contract I cannot tell any details about the negotiations... what I can say is that I feel a deep respect towards Jos茅 Mar铆a as a driver and as a person"

"I know he's very motivated right now after three good years in Argentina. He would be agreat driver for our team because he brings knowledge and kilometres of testing in F1, apart from and extra motivation due to the fact that he still hasn't had the chance of racing and show his skills"

"I would be very happy if races for us next year. He is not one more in a list of drivers. Jos茅 is more than that. He's a driver we are interested in and we hope he's with us. Things in motor racing canb change quickly. It wouldn't be appropiate if I say something else."

"We would like to sign a contract as soon as possible. As soon as a driver knows what he's gonna do next year, it's better for his mental, physical and technical preparation."

"From all the drivers available, I would put Jos茅 Mar铆a very high on the list of what we want. He has a lot of talent. For a new team, he is a very good driver: he has experience, but nor too many preconcepts about how a team must be..."

"There are experienced drivers without a seat going around, but I'm not sure they can make a better job that Jos茅"

"If we would have Jos茅, we could put a young driver by his side. Jos茅 would be a good parameter to start developing the car from"

Apart from this, rumours say that a pre-contract has already been sign and that L贸pez will travel to the US soon... Apart from that, I just heard an info in the radio saying that Williams has showed interest in L贸pez too (as a test driver, I guess, considering they have Barrichello and Hulkenberg signed), but I still hasn't found anyting about it, although it could be true: we know Bernie has influence on Williams (supposedly he put a lot of money to keep the team running this year) and, because of his friend Reutewmann, he seems to be somewhat favouring L贸pez entry...
ff1600
USF1 will do what it takes to survive. Pay driver you name it they will do it. The USA has all fo the cutting edge manufacturing but not the F1 engineering for the day to day needs of a team. F1 is just to close for a team to come in with an underperforming car and a rookie driver and expect to be anywhere but last place.
CWeil
The only way it makes absolutely any sense is if he brings along a LOT of money or a sponsor contingent.

Sorry, anybody saying that "three good years in Brazilian touring cars" being good for F1 is saying it through gritted teeth.

I'm sorry, a lot of this seems fabricated. Getting a young driver alongside Lopez? It's not like Lopez has any experience.

I'll believe it when I see it.
Ensign
QUOTE
"The first connection I had with Jos茅 Mar铆a L贸pez was thru a letter sent to me by Bernie Ecclestone.


I think that is the most important quotation.

Wasn't Bernie talking about getting a race in Argentina in the coming years?

Do Bernie a favour and who knows what benefits lie in store?
Bouncing Pink Ball
^ Er...I can't say I like the sound of that. Bernie sent out a letter recommending an Argentinean driver to USF1? The same Bernie that, IIRC, mentioned how he'd like to see an Indian driver at FI? The same Bernie who foresees races in Argentina and India? Lovely. What next, will he be campaigning for Fauzy at Lotus too? lol.gif ohwell.gif

The Ragged Edge
The joke about USF1 is that they went on about having a yank in the car, then reality bit them in the @rse and they found out there were no Americans good enough. They have plenty of 2nd tier yanks available, but Windsor knows they'll be out of their depth, so he is doing the next best thing. Effectively get a pay driver.
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Bouncing Pink Ball @ Nov 11 2009, 21:26) *
The same Bernie who foresees races in Argentina and India?

Would you complain if it meant we got a race at Potrero de los Funes? So Pechito Lopez gets a race seat, and sucks. USF1 drop him mid-season or after a year, but ot after we get a race in Argentina. There's no way a contract could be written up that would guarantee the race so long as Lopez hs a drive; no one in the right mind would try and pitch it, much less sign it. Lopez provides some of the accident-prone comedy tat has been sadly lacking of late, which keeps the fans entertined. USF1 make fools of themselves, which keeps the nay-sayers happy. Argentina gets a Formula One driver, which keeps them happy. And Bernie Ecclestone gets to srew someone else over, which keep him happy. Who loses?

QUOTE (Bouncing Pink Ball @ Nov 11 2009, 21:26) *
Lovely. What next, will he be campaigning for Fauzy at Lotus too? lol.gif ohwell.gif

Of course not - he's already got a race in Malaysia. Just be afraid if he starts lobbying for Plamen Kralev ...
Repco von Brabham
Yesterday, Peter Windsor sayd:
"We want sign with L贸pez as fast way possible"

http://www.larazon.com.ar/notas/2009/11/11/02038608.html

In the Windsor mouth words.,

Regards.,
J-Raid
It would be funny if the so-called all-american team signed two Spanish speaking drivers (Lopez and de la Rosa), with a base in Spain too.

Didn't they say 90% of the F1 technology comes from US? ha!
senna da silva
QUOTE (J-Raid @ Nov 11 2009, 23:57) *
It would be funny if the so-called all-american team signed two Spanish speaking drivers (Lopez and de la Rosa), with a base in Spain too.

Didn't they say 90% of the F1 technology comes from US? ha!


Isn't 90% of the US filled with illegal Mexicans anyway? roflmao.gif
loki
QUOTE (The Ragged Edge @ Nov 11 2009, 11:00) *
The joke about USF1 is that they went on about having a yank in the car, then reality bit them in the @rse and they found out there were no Americans good enough. They have plenty of 2nd tier yanks available, but Windsor knows they'll be out of their depth, so he is doing the next best thing. Effectively get a pay driver.


The drivers that would be experienced enough don't want to do it and the ones that show promise are a few years away. I think they thought that Speed, Rahal or Andretti or perhaps Patrick would jump at the chance. They don't wish to take a cut in pay with a startup and deal with the euro-centric grief as well as the relocation. In a recent interview Windsor stated the reason they didn't take a chance on someone like Summerton was that if he wasn't able to qualify for the Superlicense early next year (because they won't be able to test him until then) the drivers that might be the best fit may not be available. I think it was foolhard to consider an American for the job and it will be at least a year, perhaps two until someone is up to driving the the car. Most of the young kids, even the karters and road racers are going to circle track because they can get development deals in their teens. That could change with a US based F1 team but right now we just aren't grooming any drivers for the F1 ladder. USF1 need an old hand to help with the car and a pay driver to supplement the funding.
ezequiel
QUOTE (Ensign @ Nov 11 2009, 06:08) *
I think that is the most important quotation.

Wasn't Bernie talking about getting a race in Argentina in the coming years?

Do Bernie a favour and who knows what benefits lie in store?



I agree with you. And take in account that, according to what it is said in Argentina, that Ecclestone had previous talks with Reutemann... it sounds crazy, but Carlos has always thought that L贸pez is an excellent driver and maybe he gave him a "little" hand... I recall Guerrieri's manager saying that the influence of someone lioke Reutemann could open more doors that tons of money, which is something L贸pez doesn't have (that's whay the deal is not closed yet), so there's more than money behind it... why not to sign Petrov, who is said to alrady have a lot of money with him, or any other guy, but instead keep on working in a deal with someone who hasn't raced in single-seaters in three years and after a couple of months still hasn't been able to secure a proper budget?
Oh, and something else: maybe I didn't understand it well, but L贸pez has not raced in Brazilian touring cars as someone posted above.
Rob
QUOTE (senna da silva @ Nov 12 2009, 01:15) *
Isn't 90% of the US filled with illegal Mexicans anyway? roflmao.gif


I would laugh if they ended up with a Mexican driver.
ezequiel
QUOTE (Rob @ Nov 13 2009, 13:57) *
I would laugh if they ended up with a Mexican driver.


At this station, Salvador Dur谩n or Sergio P茅rez could be a better option than any USA driver...
Sausage
well cool for him. Don't know him but if he really drilled hole in the ass to ROBERT KUBICA he must be pretty good. USF1 without American driver is a farce though, they need one
rmac923
QUOTE (Repco von Brabham @ Nov 18 2009, 18:54) *


Good for him, isn't he the first Argentinian in F1 since Carlos Reutemannn?
nordschleife

Esteban Tuero, Minardi , 1998

slideways
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Nov 11 2009, 11:08) *
Would you complain if it meant we got a race at Potrero de los Funes?


Unfortunately San Luis was ruled out fairly comprehensively due to political situation and lack of support facilities IIRC.
Repco von Brabham
QUOTE (nordschleife @ Nov 19 2009, 02:59) *
Esteban Tuero, Minardi , 1998



- Norberto Fontana, Sauber-Petronas 1997
- Esteban Tuero, Minardi 1998
- Gast贸n Mazzacane, Minardi 2000
- Gast贸n Mazzacane, Prost-Acer 2001


Happen TODAY, Pechito and Windsor in Charlotte




Regards
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (slideways @ Nov 19 2009, 12:59) *
Unfortunately San Luis was ruled out fairly comprehensively due to political situation and lack of support facilities IIRC.

I know, I was just using it as an example. And also because I cannot think of any other circuit that might be in a condition to host the race, though I do know Ecclestone was pushing for a street circuit in Mar del Plata bfore the Argentine cgovernment decided to focus on getting an Argentine driver before an Argentine race.
Repco von Brabham
"Today, we have a agreement with L贸pez, he now is a our driver", Windsor say..


http://www.diariouno.com.ar/ovacion/blog/2...la-formula-uno/


Brawn BGP 001
Good luck to him, great to have an Argentine in F1.
noikeee
Wondering why it is taking so long for these news to reach Autosport.
loki
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Nov 20 2009, 00:10) *
Wondering why it is taking so long for these news to reach Autosport.


Because it's not a signed deal yet. Article says it won't be signed until next week.
Repco von Brabham
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Nov 20 2009, 01:10) *
Wondering why it is taking so long for these news to reach Autosport.


Because Autosport hate Pechito L贸pez, and hate alll Argentinan stuffs.,

They can't forgive than our TC 2000 smashed the sad BTCC.,

frown.gif


glorius&victorius
how come US GP are not announcing drivers? or giving indication of drivers...
billm99uk
QUOTE (ezequiel @ Nov 13 2009, 12:55) *
I agree with you. And take in account that, according to what it is said in Argentina, that Ecclestone had previous talks with Reutemann...


Blimey! Isn't Carlos getting on a bit for an F1 comeback these days? wink.gif
billm99uk
QUOTE (glorius&victorius @ Nov 20 2009, 16:38) *
how come US GP are not announcing drivers? or giving indication of drivers...


Waiting to see if the cheques bounce, I should imagine...
Mia 01
Sorry, It麓s not enough.
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (glorius&victorius @ Nov 21 2009, 03:38) *
how come US GP are not announcing drivers? or giving indication of drivers...

Uh, because they're still going througha selection process? Lotus, Campos and Manor only have one driver confirmed, so it's not like USF1 is light years behind them.

Have you considerd that maybe they're running on a slightly different timetable to everyone else?
ezequiel
QUOTE (Repco von Brabham @ Nov 19 2009, 02:15) *
- Norberto Fontana, Sauber-Petronas 1997
- Esteban Tuero, Minardi 1998
- Gast贸n Mazzacane, Minardi 2000
- Gast贸n Mazzacane, Prost-Acer 2001


Happen TODAY, Pechito and Windsor in Charlotte




Regards


Oscar LARRAURI (1988 with EuroBrun, a terrible car for a very good driver)
Fangio II tested in the mid 80s for Osella, if I'm not mistaken; and Jos茅 Luis Di Palma was close to a deal with Simtek for Argentina 1995, but he couldn't get enough money.

As for L贸pez, his boss in the Honda TC2000 team, V铆ctor Rosso said to a radio show yesterday that they are thinking on getting a GP2 car to Santiago del Estero so L贸pez can have some single-seater training before testing for USF1 in February (if the deal is finally closed, of course...). That testing would be held in Termas de R铆o Hondo, one of the best circuits in Argentina (probably the best alongside Potrero), and the provincial government is believed to be one of his sponsors for the 2010 F1 campaign
ezequiel
QUOTE (billm99uk @ Nov 20 2009, 21:10) *
Blimey! Isn't Carlos getting on a bit for an F1 comeback these days? wink.gif


Hey, when he tested that Ferrari in 1995 on rainy conditions he left everybody with their mouths open... cool.gif
noikeee
QUOTE (Repco von Brabham @ Nov 20 2009, 15:08) *
Because Autosport hate Pechito L贸pez, and hate alll Argentinan stuffs.,

They can't forgive than our TC 2000 smashed the sad BTCC.,

frown.gif


lolwut
OnyxF1
QUOTE (Repco von Brabham @ Nov 20 2009, 15:08) *
Because Autosport hate Pechito L贸pez, and hate alll Argentinan stuffs.,

They can't forgive than our TC 2000 smashed the sad BTCC.


Of course mate. The Autosport editors are involved in a vast conspiracy against "your boy" so that he doesn't get any media coverage. rolleyes.gif

Loki was correct, Autosport generally only post stories when an announcement is imminent (as in the next 24 hours) or when it's recently happened. That's why there's no "Schumacher to Mercedes" story on the front page. There's been no official confirmation that MS has even spoken to Merc about a drive, never mind that they've already agreed a deal.
ensign14
QUOTE (billm99uk @ Nov 20 2009, 21:10) *
Blimey! Isn't Carlos getting on a bit for an F1 comeback these days? wink.gif

Maybe it's David Reutimann. After all, he's American.
ezequiel
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Nov 20 2009, 23:04) *
lolwut


ditto roflmao.gif
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Repco von Brabham @ Nov 21 2009, 02:08) *
Because Autosport hate Pechito L贸pez, and hate alll Argentinan stuffs.,

They can't forgive than our TC 2000 smashed the sad BTCC.,

frown.gif

Have you considered that maybe Lopez was so unspectacular that he's not eally news-worthy? When Button went to McLaren, it was big news. The same as when Alonso went to Ferrari. But some touring car driver making his debut with a new team isn't really news-worthy until it gets confirmed by the team. Autosport are very hesitant to run stories that are speculatory, and when they do, they generaly make it plain that it is speculation, which is to their credit. If you read the article on Saward's blog, you'd know that the announcement isn't expected for a week, so come back in seven days, even though it's hardly earth-shattering news. nd if you'd seen other news sites - like F1 Live, for instance - then you'd know Jose Maria Lopez is one of twelve drivers currently being considered by USF1. He may not have signed anything at all.

But if he has, expect him to be at the back of the grid.
billm99uk
QUOTE (ezequiel @ Nov 20 2009, 23:01) *
Hey, when he tested that Ferrari in 1995 on rainy conditions he left everybody with their mouths open... cool.gif


Yeah, but he's fourteen years older now. He's probably got arthritis to worry about...
Repco von Brabham
The ESPN network confirm Pechito L贸pez in USF1 Team:

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story...&type=story


Cheers.,
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Repco von Brabham @ Nov 21 2009, 11:16) *
The ESPN network confirm Pechito L贸pez in USF1 Team:

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story...&type=story


Cheers.,

Does that directly quote Lopez or anyone from USF1?

Because if it doesn't, it is not confirmed.
Mia 01
I麓m not so sure they will be on the grid next year.
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