http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78802

Put simply how the hell is Max getting away with this ? hes basically trying to frighten everyone in to thinking that Vatanen will ruin the FIA and Todt will be its saviour ?

Am I wrong in thinking he is not meant to show preference or dislike for any potential replacement ?

The quicker we get rid of him the better.

Amen Crafty.

I think you are. I see no reason what so ever why Mosley shouldn't be allowed to evaluate and recommend the candidates as much as he likes. Few people know better than he, what it takes to be the president of the FIA. Why shouldn't he - as a long-time leader of the organisation - have an interest in securing the best continuation of the organisation?

Should resigning presidents, mayors and company bosses also "be neutral"? Seriously? Nothing works like that!

Well I'm pretty sure Bush was pulling for McCain.

His interest isn't in the best continuation of the organization - it is in the best interests of his legacy and continuation of his policies of divide then divide some more - give away the farm - then use your semi-judicial arm to lay down your law.

Todt would be nothing more than a shorter Max. His way or off to the sporting council we go

It's called power and fear.
Mosley utterly owns FIA. He set up election procedures that give the incumbent a ridiculous advantage. Anyone opposed to him has his hands tied because everybody else is afraid to do anything contrary.
It's gone to such lenghts that his candidate can tour the world under a transparent ruse and campaign with plenty of funding by FIA.

It's obscene and there's hardly anything anyone can do about it.

Personally, I'm hoping Todt ends up the bigger bastard drives Max's influence out completely for convenience. It'd be probably worse for the sport, but maybe it's time to end up the farce for good.

I keep seeing this being repeated and it just hurts...

We're not going to get rid of Mosley anytime soon. When Todt gets to be President, Max will be on the Senate by rights as the ex-President. You can bet the farm on the people around being very considerate because their presence at that place where they are will be owed to this ex-President... why start swimming in another direction in such circumstances?

Mosley knows the recipe on how to become President against the odds, he's not stupid enough to let someone else (Vatanen) do it to him..

The Todt Presidency will be a continuity, Mosley will have totally made Todt... how is he supposed to turn his back on that?

The Todtley access of evil.

Mosley favoring Todt -> good ad for Vatanen.

I see this another way. He is simply saying that if Vatanen wins, he won't let him rule. There's your "friction".

Yeah.. actually I see this like that as well.. I was talking about those who won't even consider swinging their support away from Mosley.

It's almost comforting to see Max come out with a seemingly pointless public statement like this, maybe it means some people are keeping their cards close to their chests, enough for Mosley to have some uncertainty..

You must be confused...... Did you actually think that the public has any say in the "outcome" of this "election?"

Truth be told, once Mosley "had" to be removed for the sake of the FIA's reputation, the heir apparent was already in place.

The media will portray this as a competitive election and only the slightest margin will be achieved for victory....... when in reality you, I and everyone else know the Jean Todt is already the next FIA president.

Its a shame but its reality.

It's a shame, but, I fear you are right.

I hope, that others will do as I have done and, say they will cancel their membership of Motoring Organisations who show any support of Mosley and/or who he projects.

Mosley and Todt remind me of Putin and Medvedev.

Max can express a preference for any candidate he likes. What he should not be doing is assisting anyone of them in their candidature. There is suspicion that Todt, who is already employed by the FIA, is getting financial assistance for his campaign. He is also gaining direct access to the very people who will casting votes in the presidential election in his work for the FIA. Much of the support that Renault is providing the FIA's Safety Campaign will go to the section that Todt is heading up. A cynic might even say that Renault is funding Todt's campaign, although I would never suggest such a thing.

Read Pitpass's view here.

Yes Max will take up his position in the Senate and as long as Todt is (re)elected he´ll keep that position.
Also one of the points in Jean Todt´s election manifesto is that he wants to have a bigger (more strategic) role for the FIA Senate.

The role of the Senate (Article 17)
Given that the Senate brings together senior club representatives from both the Sport and Mobility pillars we believe that the Senate could be given a more strategic role in shaping the overall direction of the FIA’s development, especially in matters of common concern to the entire membership.

Going through the thread I had the same thoughts and I came across your post. An apt description.

Thanks

I love it when Chris Balfe gets all bitter, dips his pen in vitriol and starts throwing unsubstantiated accusations around

Max: "I said, 'I will be very honest. I think Jean is a much better candidate. You have no experience, you have never run anything, you've not been in charge of even the smallest organisation, you have no concept of what it is like. You didn't even run your own rally car, you had a co-driver to do that.'"

That's basically an insult really isn't it? Max just can't help himself can he.

It is, but the worst insults are the ones that have the ring of truth to them.

bitter, nasty, unsubstantiated vitriol.....................you mean like this?








Balfe hit the nail on the head, this election will be as corrupt as every other aspect of Mosleys FIA in the last 15 years.

Max told him that to his face and I´m sure that Ari (unlike certain posters here) would have understood the tongue-in-cheek nature of the remark.

Which is exactly what Vatenan asked Mosley to do.

According to Mosley, that would need to be substantiated by someone who isn't a compulsive liar before it can be included in the argument.

I can include it in the argument as much as I like. Feel free to give it no weight though.

As I don't consider Mosley a compulsive liar, I think his statement could well be true.

I cant find it now but there was a story on autosport about Max sending out letters to everybody and anybody endorsing Todt. The letters had the FIA letterhead at the top.
Seem to remember that this was considered a bit naughty and hes not meant to officially ebndorse anyone ?

I agree with the majority, I think Todt will continue Mosley regime.

Vatanen is untested yes, but I think I'd prefer him in charge than an F1 old timer.

I still think Brundle would be good for the job personally.

I think you mean THIS letter Crafty?

Just Max reconfirming that he won´t be running in October after receiving 100 letters of FIA clubs to stay on and him explaining who he thinks would be the best man to head FIA.

Nothing naughty in that and in fact very common practice.

There are quite a few people saying "bring in a new broom" forgetting that Max is not leaving the FIA. He is only relinquishing the presidency, he will continue to be an active member of the FIA Senate.

If AV wins the vote he will have to fight a political system at every turn.