The rumour going round is that they are close to a deal with Argentinian José-Maria Lopez to fill the 2nd seat as a paydriver. First driver would be a more experienced driver like Montagny or Wurz.

You'd hope they were after Kova or Glock etc instead of Montagny or Wurz as a first preference.

Not exactly correct. The business model is based on building cars in the US and relying heavily on subcontractors for many tasks that require significant capital outlay. Full scale rolling bed tunnel at Windshear for example and access to a myriad of world class autosport test and prototyping equipment. While a key marketing aspect was the attempt to use US drivers, that is not what is significantly different about the operation compared to other operations.

We get it already... You don't like Windsor. If you find something of substance to debate, let us know.

Yet there was a pic of a Windows based PC being used too, and I might be wrong, but it could be possible the software being used on that mac might be running from windows via bootcamp.



;)

except war

Yanks might be good at starting them but not so at winning them

Does not bode well for when they 'attack' the grid then does it.

They won when it counted such as WW2.

I really appreciate what the US did in ww2, but didn't the British, Russians and poland have a big part in that as well... Teh russians and poland did by far the most fighting, only less movies....

Lol, The russians were responsible for 90% of German losses in WW2. Hitler even moved his best troops all to the russian front. The western front on the most part was defended by conscripts and French turncoats.
But you wouldnt gather that from watching hoywood movies.

Is not this a topic that should be taken to the PC?

That's a line that too many that side of the pond buy into. America did not fight the WW2 on their own. There were many nations involved, most of which had been fighting for several years prior to the USA entering. No one should deny the contribution made, or forget the bravery of those involved, but equally no one should think that America won the war.

might just be a apple monitor, keyboard and mouse?

Yeah, it's statements like that which just prove my hypothesis that you're looking for reasons for USF1 to fail.

How doe's the previous statement equal this?

The top chap is using CAD, the lower appears to be doing CFD.

Many CFD applications are Unix based, so it wouldn't be unusual for the different tasks to be done on different operating systems.


[It wouldn't be remarkable if both have been told to load up a pretty picture for the photographer, and they are both using Photoshop...]

WTF?

It may be a monitor, keyboard and mouse that is hooked up to a main frame out of shot.

I see no reason to perceive that it is a statement of wanting them to fail at all.

Surely the image on the Apple screen has been faked? The picture doesn't look real, and it seems unrealistic with what looks like half a drop menu on the right.

(This is not a criticism of USF1. If it is fake, it could be because many screen shots don't look right on video or camera and they may have had to fix it. Or they don't want anyway to see what was really there.)

He's implying that USF1 have just set up a computer with a guy in front of it and just photoshopped an image onto the monitor to make it look like they're working. A similar thing happened earlier when someone posted the photos; people went looking for reasons as to why they were fakes because they want USF1 to fail beofre they even make it to Bahrain.

Even in my most obtuse moments, I would never think that they would stoop so low.

Will they actually make it to Bahrain?, I would not like to answer that one, except, to say, I sincerely hope they do.

lol, maybe, but the window top right corner looks strikingly like a windows window, same as mine in fact.

The mac one, not so similar, but I'd say the other is almost definitely windows vista or 7.

Anyway, who give a @#$% ( he says after waffling on), what OS and software they're using, it's all rather redundant if they don't make it to the grid.

I hope they do.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79329

Take it as you will, I think USF1 is legit. Surely, they might barely make it to the grid, but I believe that they will indeed be there.

I guess that not even this bit of news will sway the doubters...:

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/10/08/...fia-inspection/

But I take this as another sign that USF1 is making progress and hope they will make it to the grid.

Ok, im swayed. I doubted them the most out of the new teams. But this is it. They are the best prepared probably to be the best next year of the newbies.

Hope they can stick out their first season. Look forward to seeing their car.

Sure enough after my last post even more confirmations surface from no less than the FIA. Looking good, very exciting as an American F1 fan, even though I believe they will initially struggle. That is to be expected.

Also at Autosport.com .

where are all the doubters now.

Maybe trying to search up stories about how the FIA inspectors only were inspecting a photoshopped factory televised on YouTube

Right see you at the next British GP.Oh thats right there won't be one.

Hey, Minardi made it to the grid year after year.

I've not noticed that...

Can't believe I'm quoting Marca.

http://www.marca.com/2009/10/07/motor/form...1254939375.html
[[La propia FIA no confía en los tres nuevos y por eso abrió el abanico a uno más, como fue Lotus, y dejó a Sauber de suplente. Curiosamente Campos Meta sale de los mejor parados por ahora, pues Adrián fue el más hábil al no complicarse la vida a la hora de construir el coche encargándoselo a Dallara.

Y Dallara está cumpliendo. Prácticamente es el único fabricante que está en conversaciones avanzadas con McLaren Technologies para el suministro de los materiales electrónicos necesarios y obligatorios para todos para recogida de datos, control de la ECU, etc.

"Dallara es el único que sabe de qué habla cuando pide informaciones sobre lo que han de llevar los coches de 2010", comentan en McLaren, "el resto, muy despistados (Manor) y de los otros (USF1 y Lotus), sin noticias", afirman.]]

In one line: Campos-Dallara is the only team that contacted McLaren asking for information about the standard and mandatory ECU.
To me, Manor or USF1 might be trying to sell their licence to Lotus BMW and make a profit. Those installations might be used to build something else and I haven't seem any part or mock up of a F1.
Maybe they are waiting for the release of the main contenders and copy as much as they can

often by using last year's car. starting from scratch is something else. I hope they will make it, at least they dumped the US driver idea an are taking pay drivers and/or experience on board.

I hope we get an update from the Campos, Lotus, and Manor teams like the autosport article on USF1 we got today

How could they sell their license to Lotus? Lotus allready has a place on the grid for 2010.

Have you read the articles on the websites today? The team is well advanced in the design of the car and the FIA was impressed with their progress. They plan on having a rolling chassis in November and be ready for testing in January. Why isn't anybody questioning the Manor, Campos and Lotus efforts in the same way? From what I understood of the MARCA article there was some issues regarding planning permission for the Dallara factory?

It seems more likely USF1 waited until they hired the guy who used to run Cosworth since Cos already has the working knowledge. I suspect he'll be able to point them in the right direction for the Cosworth engine install and config. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if USF1 had already been working with info and data supplied by Cosworth for the last few months! Ken Anderson has been working this program for some time. Very respected behind the scenes in the racing world with some amazing success stories.

This article also talks about the ECU and the Cosworth engine (doesn't say anything about the teams though but is an interview with Cosworth):

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_new...es_art_id=39271

same..I really like the idea of having more teams on the grid....I would be even happier if they let sauber in so there is 28 car grid....to me the more teams the better.

Go on, then. Who is there?

Exactly.

I hope they don't choke trying to digest the crow.

Great to hear some progress is happening at USF1!



I don't get it.

Until I see the cars on the grid I'm going to doubt all the new teams. Been too may false promises over the last few seasons.

Mac uses Unix, (formerly NexTStep). If you want to use an X based application on windows, you can use Exceed, (or numerous other X emulators).

It would seem rather pointless to use a Unix based workstation to utilise an application which is shared between multiple users. Why not just use a Unix server, with either X based workstations using the same application, or Exceed on windows to use the same application on the Unix server.

Anyway, USF1 IMHO, have the same sort of chance as Donnington for 2010. They REALLY want to be there, but reality kicks them in the, (to use an American term), ass.

Once again, we get good news about USF1 and people instantly go hunting for a reason why it's all doom and gloom. While Manor are believed to be setting themselves up to be acquired by Virgin, I seriously doubt USF1 are looking to sell off their own racing licence. There's a reason why you haven't seen any part or mock-up of a car: it's because they're not ready yet. And they never planned to be ready this early: USF1 are looking to get a rolling prototype on the ground by the end of the month, while Manor are expecting an on-track debut in February.

When will the MyF1Dream.com car hit the track? Probably about the same time as USF1, and Manor.

EDIT.

But before Lotus who have a name, but nothing else.

It's that kind of attitude I'm talking about. You clearly don't want the sport to grow, probably because you disagreed with Prodrive and Lola missing out on the grid places, and most likely without considering the fact that they probably had something that really went against them ... like Prodrive winning the sole additional grd position for 2008 and then failing to show up. Regardless as to who was to blame for it, it doesn't change the fact that they didn't show up.

I do want the sport to grow. Campos is a great addition to the lineup. USF1 and Manor are teams that, if they turn up, will be nowhere. This isn't F1.

Sauber has a team that can win championships, as opposed to tooling around the back 10 seconds off the pace.

Yet, the likes of USF1 and Manor can prevent a top 3 team from competing. This is rediculous.

Lotus is the biggest joke of all. They have no car, no facilities, no team, but they do have a name, (though it will be under the malaysian flag, and stolen from a real team).

I heard that USF1 would be broadcasting their progress through youtube, yet given the fact that their is no progress, nothing is forthcoming.

Formula 1 is the PINNACLE of motorsport. I personally don't want to go back to the days of Andrea Moda. That is, however, exactly how we are heading. I know you are a student, so probably didn't follow the sport in the days of a team not turning up because they couldn't afford to pay the engine provider, or the team principle getting arrested for fraud, but I don't wan't F1 to go back to the bad old days.

F1 should be the BEST teams, fighting for the BEST position. Not a nowhere team tooling around at the back, blocking the entry of a proven race winner and championship contender.

IMHO, we should allow anyone to go for it and reintriduce pre quali. Obviously, USF1 and Manor would never back this because they would never get to race, but F1 should be the pinnacle, not the "Max like's me so I get to race" series.

do you even listen to yourself? You are spouting some ridiculous bullshit there, friend.

Seriously, how can you make claims about what the new teams will do and expect to not sound like a blithering twat.

Sauber a championship contender? I like them but since when? They blew it by not signing the Concorde Agreement when they could and now have realized the team wasn't worth as much as they thought because they didn't have a spot on the grid. The saviors are now under a cloud of suspicion that is more precarious than rumors the 3 new teams won't field an entry.

As a long time Mac user I believe it is real, and the guy who mentioned it just being a loaded photo was correct: That is OS X's image viewer app called Preview, and the little floating pallet window is the properties/info pane.