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potmotr
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 7 2010, 13:47) *
Because of the lack of uniforms at Boeing then?


No no, I'm just kidding!

I'm happy flying in anything airworthy!

Have spent a bit of time in Toulouse though, so perhaps have a soft spot for Airbus.

But anyway, that's waaay OT here!
DFV
QUOTE (potmotr @ Jan 7 2010, 15:15) *
No no, I'm just kidding!

I'm happy flying in anything airworthy!

Have spent a bit of time in Toulouse though, so perhaps have a soft spot for Airbus.

But anyway, that's waaay OT here!


biggrin.gif

Ha ha, yes let's get back on topic up.gif
One
I am starting to worry if USF1 has enough money to do the rest.

Windsor and co spend money to make chassis, but the ret is not, meaning that they have no cash at this very moment???
DFV
QUOTE (One @ Jan 7 2010, 15:22) *
I am starting to worry if USF1 has enough money to do the rest.

Windsor and co spend money to make chassis, but the ret is not, meaning that they have no cash at this very moment???


According to the TEAM the rest of the parts are being manufactured (by outsourced companies). That we have only seen photos of chassis parts doesn't mean that the other parts don't exist (I don't know if they do or not).

Yes, they might have run out of money but then again maybe they have not. Do you know more about their financial situation?
potmotr
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 7 2010, 14:33) *
According to the TEAM the rest of the parts are being manufactured (by outsourced companies). That we have only seen photos of chassis parts doesn't mean that the other parts don't exist (I don't know if they do or not).


That's a fair point actually.

So do we know when we'll see a roller?
Greem
Anyone like to take a guess at who's recruiting in that thar lovely "JOBS" link up there?

http://www.autosport-atlas.com/dir_appoint...Iappointid=2481
Rob
QUOTE (Greem @ Jan 7 2010, 14:39) *
Anyone like to take a guess at who's recruiting in that thar lovely "JOBS" link up there?

http://www.autosport-atlas.com/dir_appoint...Iappointid=2481


Rather worrying, they seem to be looking for an entire design team.
wdh
QUOTE (Rob @ Jan 7 2010, 14:48) *
Rather worrying, they seem to be looking for an entire design team.

I know about "just in time" supply chains, but really .... stoned.gif
Lazarus II
QUOTE (Demo. @ Jan 7 2010, 06:48) *
not if they still did not have the sponsors in place they would want to do all they could to show that they were ready money or no money.
After all how better to get a sponsor than to show them you are going to be on the grid and the car is being made.
ont you think any sponsor worth their salt is going to check out such things as their web site and dont you think USF1 know that?

Website roflmao.gif you think if I'm going to invest $10, 20, 30m that I give a damn about you 'fancy' website? If I'm a real investor, I want to see you facilities (all of them) and your books (all of them). I want to know ALL about your executive staff, who is running the financials on a daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly basis. I'll have already been given a business prospectus that damn well better be complete and professional; goals (including accomplished goals - tooting your own horn of course), financials, about the business/competitors, executive staff resume's, etc, etc, etc. I'd venture a guess that with amout of money involved as well as the players, USF1's business prospectus would be a nice long 200+ page read easy. Peter gets to talk about Peter, so it could be 1,000 pages.

QUOTE (One @ Jan 7 2010, 07:44) *
Funny thing is, I imagine the answer YES from a New Yorker, but not from an European. lol.gif

Having lived in NYC I'd say you're full of it. They may look down on you for it, but get out of their way of they have a place to be.


AS for AirBus vs Boeing. No question ever I'll always take a 737 any day over any other aircraft.
Lazarus II
QUOTE (Rob @ Jan 7 2010, 09:48) *
Rather worrying, they seem to be looking for an entire design team.

E X P A N S I O N
BMW_F1
QUOTE (One @ Jan 7 2010, 17:44) *
Funny thing is, I imagine the answer YES from a New Yorker, but not from an European. lol.gif

I am a New Yorker and the answer is yes depending on where you work, who you work with AND the type of work..
...For a mechanic.. roflmao.gif
f1rules
USF1 is a joke, if they participate or not doesnt change a thing, let the americans concentrate on hillbilly nascar, thats what they are good at, and let the Europeans concentrate in the refined motorsport
DLaw
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 7 2010, 09:13) *
USF1 is a joke, if they participate or not doesnt change a thing, let the americans concentrate on hillbilly nascar, thats what they are good at, and let the Europeans concentrate in the refined motorsport


You see, that's the problem with USF1, with trash talk like this.
alfiebengal
QUOTE (Lazarus II @ Jan 7 2010, 16:42) *
E X P A N S I O N

From ZERO!!
DFV
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 7 2010, 18:13) *
USF1 is a joke, if they participate or not doesnt change a thing, let the americans concentrate on hillbilly nascar, thats what they are good at, and let the Europeans concentrate in the refined motorsport


Can we please stop this anti American posting? Moderators have warned us about this many times previously.

I think your post says more about you than it does about Americans...
DFV
QUOTE (alfiebengal @ Jan 7 2010, 18:24) *
From ZERO!!


Source please.
hunnylander
QUOTE (Greem @ Jan 7 2010, 17:39) *
Anyone like to take a guess at who's recruiting in that thar lovely "JOBS" link up there?

http://www.autosport-atlas.com/dir_appoint...Iappointid=2481

That must be Stefan GP...

...outsourcing their manufacturing into the US.

Obvious. smoking.gif stoned.gif
piercey
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 7 2010, 17:13) *
USF1 is a joke, if they participate or not doesnt change a thing, let the americans concentrate on hillbilly nascar, thats what they are good at, and let the Europeans concentrate in the refined motorsport


Because as we all know Juan Pablo Montoya and Marcos Ambrose are huge hillbillies. rolleyes.gif

Out of any curiosity, have you ever been to Charlotte? Beautiful city, lots of history in it but very modern as well. Nothing hillbilly about it, or the 75% of NASCAR employees, teams, drivers, suppliers, etc. that are based in that city.

Back on topic, as far as the US and dress, it has always been very much if you work behind closed door you dress a little more on the casual side. Who cares? As far as Ron Dennis and probably forcing them into uniforms, how about that SOB acknowledges people actually work for him first. He took all the credit and trophies during his career, very rarely have I seen him thank someone inside the organization who is not a driver.
One
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 7 2010, 15:33) *
Do you know more about their financial situation?



No one gets carte Blanche, that I know.

...
DFV
QUOTE (piercey @ Jan 7 2010, 23:04) *
Because as we all know Juan Pablo Montoya and Marcos Ambrose are huge hillbillies. rolleyes.gif

Out of any curiosity, have you ever been to Charlotte? Beautiful city, lots of history in it but very modern as well. Nothing hillbilly about it, or the 75% of NASCAR employees, teams, drivers, suppliers, etc. that are based in that city.

Back on topic, as far as the US and dress, it has always been very much if you work behind closed door you dress a little more on the casual side. Who cares? As far as Ron Dennis and probably forcing them into uniforms, how about that SOB acknowledges people actually work for him first. He took all the credit and trophies during his career, very rarely have I seen him thank someone inside the organization who is not a driver.


He even admitted in a recent interview that there where employees at McLaren that was frightened of him...
PNSD
They were scared of braking his head.

But seriously, its not long now till the testing start and USF1 plan to be there, I think this thread should be closed until at least then. I was and still am sceptical of their effort, however if the operation were to fail, it would have done so by now. Let's just wait and see how they perform.
Docc
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 7 2010, 10:13) *
USF1 is a joke, if they participate or not doesnt change a thing, let the americans concentrate on hillbilly nascar, thats what they are good at, and let the Europeans concentrate in the refined motorsport



Marie..? Marie Antoinette ? Is that you...?

How's' that cake deal working..?
loki
QUOTE (piercey @ Jan 7 2010, 23:04) *
Because as we all know Juan Pablo Montoya and Marcos Ambrose are huge hillbillies. rolleyes.gif


You want to see a huge hillbilly, check out Jimmy Spencer. He must be pushing over 300 lbs.... drunk.gif roflmao.gif stoned.gif
V8 Fireworks
QUOTE (Docc @ Jan 8 2010, 03:41) *
Marie..? Marie Antoinette ? Is that you...?

How's' that cake deal working..?

f1rules appears to have not noticed the two way flow of information between the American IndyCar and F1 in the 80s and 90s, when both series had similar budgets and similar refined technology. wave.gif

f1rules down.gif
andrew.
As though uneducated redneck fatasses don't exist all over the world. Also implying that NASCAR is somehow oblivious to technology. And for the record, a NASCAR broadcast on TV kicks the shit out of an F1 broadcast in every facet except commentating, and that's only because I have a man-crush on Martin Brundle.
brabham bt50
First sign for me, which indicates USF1 will make it to the grid, article on F1 website

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/1/10319.html

Alabama debut for US team’s first car Plus driver line-up announcement expected soon
DFV
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ Jan 8 2010, 11:44) *
First sign for me, which indicates USF1 will make it to the grid, article on F1 website

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/1/10319.html

Alabama debut for US team’s first car Plus driver line-up announcement expected soon


QUOTE
The new machine will make its test debut at the Barber Motorsport Park in Alabama early next month.

“Because we are a new team and start everything from zero the first time we will run the car will be in the United States at the Barber Motorsport Park in Alabama, the circuit that was nominated by the FIA for us,” sporting director Peter Windsor told Formula1.com.

Though the team’s initial testing will be in the US, Windsor said they do plan to run alongside their rivals before the season gets underway on March 14.

“We are allowed three sessions in the US,” he explained. “Then we will ship it (the car) to Spain to do some testing there before we fly out to Bahrain.”


That means that USF1 will also participate in at least one of the (European) test sessions (Lotus also announced that they will participate in some of the tests)

QUOTE
The Charlotte-based team has yet to confirm any drivers, despite reports late last year that former Renault tester Jose Maria Lopez was close to signing a deal. However, Windsor confirmed that an announcement on their line-up can be expected shortly.

“We are very close to announcing our drivers,” he said. “We’ve been talking to some great racing drivers over the last couple of months - and it is very difficult choosing from the good drivers that are around.

“I think there are still a lot and the difficult thing is to choose only two out of ten that are available. It’s a difficult job and I hate having to do that. We have not signed our forward deals yet in terms of the contracts, but we are pretty near to announcing.”


Story has also made it to Autosport: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80776
TheF1PERSON
According to this interview, USF1 have ten drivers to choose from:

http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/1/10320.html
Beamer
Anyone have any test times from the IRL test last year, just to have something to compare to?
DFV
QUOTE (Beamer @ Jan 8 2010, 14:21) *
Anyone have any test times from the IRL test last year, just to have something to compare to?


According to their own website:

http://www.barbermotorsports.com/track-facts.php

QUOTE
Track records:

Car - 1:09.455 - avg. speed - 119.213 mph - Will Power- March 2009
Motorcycle - 1:23.664 - avg. speed - 115.474 mph - Mat Mladin - April 2008


Wikipedia also has some info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_Motorsports_Park
TheF1PERSON
And how does an F1 car compare to an Indycar in speed?

I'd assume it's faster.
WebBerK
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 8 2010, 10:37) *
According to this interview, USF1 have ten drivers to choose from:

http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/1/10320.html


Yes, ten drivers available... but none of then capable of getting a FIA SuperLicense. eek.gif
DFV
QUOTE (WebBerK @ Jan 8 2010, 15:16) *
Yes, ten drivers available... but none of then capable of getting a FIA SuperLicense. eek.gif


So you know who the ten drivers are???

You are still desperately hoping the team will fail (otherwise your statements in this thread will look rather daft...) rolleyes.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif

Big potential for egg in you face with statements like that. I wouldn't dare to make such bold statements with that kind of odds.
TheF1PERSON
Just to come clear, I am not taking any sides on the USF1 argument, I'll just see what happens.
Beamer
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 8 2010, 16:45) *
And how does an F1 car compare to an Indycar in speed?

I'd assume it's faster.



Yep an F1 car on a non-oval should be quite a bit faster. The only kinda comparison I know of is Montreal 2006 with champcars:
Quali:
Champcar fastest: Sébastien Bourdais, quali 1:20.005
F1 fastest: Fernando Alonso, quali 1'14.942
F1 last: Franck Montagny, quali 1'19.152

But then again, I don't have clue as to how Champcars compare to IRL.... confused.gif
TheF1PERSON
I'm sure there are some Americans on this board who would know.
rmac923
QUOTE (Beamer @ Jan 8 2010, 09:46) *
Yep an F1 car on a non-oval should be quite a bit faster. The only kinda comparison I know of is Montreal 2006 with champcars:
Quali:
Champcar fastest: Sébastien Bourdais, quali 1:20.005
F1 fastest: Fernando Alonso, quali 1'14.942
F1 last: Franck Montagny, quali 1'19.152

But then again, I don't have clue as to how Champcars compare to IRL.... confused.gif



In rFactor (not real world I KNOW), a Ferrari F2005 got around at 1:02:91. I'd imagine a heavier car that has only a V8 engine would run 64-66 Second range. (Guess)
potmotr
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 8 2010, 12:37) *
According to this interview, USF1 have ten drivers to choose from:

http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/1/10320.html


That is actually a very good interview.

Most of the hard questions being asked in the thread are asked by whoever the Formula1.com reporter is.

He wasn't asked about uniforms but you can't have everything.
Uppili
QUOTE (Beamer @ Jan 8 2010, 09:46) *
But then again, I don't have clue as to how Champcars compare to IRL.... confused.gif


Those Lola's of Champcar were faster than IRL's Dallara on Road courses. Surfers Paradise and Long Beach lap times tell that much.
sir jackie walker
IIRC Le Mans prototypes in ALMS are pretty close (~3 secs) to Indy car Dallara, but usually over 10 secs from F1. So I'd say USF1 should be around 1:00 or 1:01, if it's a competitive F1 car.
BMW_F1
PW
"January 1 2010 was the beginning of the new resource restriction agreement era in Formula One. It will be very different from any Formula One we’ve ever known and I am surprised that more people aren’t talking about it. The headcounts for race teams have come down drastically, as well as for the factory staff. Operating budgets are coming down drastically - and they will get smaller in 2011.The way F1 teams operate is changing dramatically."

I said this before..
undersquare
QUOTE (potmotr @ Jan 8 2010, 15:13) *
That is actually a very good interview.

Most of the hard questions being asked in the thread are asked by whoever the Formula1.com reporter is.

He wasn't asked about uniforms but you can't have everything.


lol.gif

Good news about the test, hope it's all going to come together.
DLaw
QUOTE (WebBerK @ Jan 8 2010, 06:16) *
Yes, ten drivers available... but none of then capable of getting a FIA SuperLicense. eek.gif


Yeah, I am not so sure if the janitor is qualified either?! wonder if he wears some sort of uniform? smile.gif
Dulok
Are tests such as these coming up in Alabama usually open to the public or just to journalists? If open to the public it would be very interesting to make the drive over and see them test.
undersquare
QUOTE (Dulok @ Jan 8 2010, 17:25) *
Are tests such as these coming up in Alabama usually open to the public or just to journalists? If open to the public it would be very interesting to make the drive over and see them test.


Well if you make it give us a few words & pics wave.gif
Soapy9963
QUOTE (Dulok @ Jan 8 2010, 17:25) *
Are tests such as these coming up in Alabama usually open to the public or just to journalists? If open to the public it would be very interesting to make the drive over and see them test.



If its open to the public I will probably make the drive I only live a couple states over, it would be worth it forsure.
BMW_F1
QUOTE (Soapy9963 @ Jan 8 2010, 23:28) *
If its open to the public I will probably make the drive I only live a couple states over.

that would be a couple of countries over in Europe.. tongue.gif
Demo.
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Jan 8 2010, 18:31) *
that would be a couple of countries over in Europe.. tongue.gif


or just popping down to the shops in Australia
DFV
QUOTE (Soapy9963 @ Jan 8 2010, 19:28) *
If its open to the public I will probably make the drive I only live a couple states over, it would be worth it forsure.


Make sure to take photos and possibly videos that you can share on here up.gif
F1Champion
My initial thought to the autosport headline......yee-haw!! tongue.gif
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