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DFV
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 12 2010, 14:35) *
USF1 have refreshed their website:

http://www.usgpe.com/


"Old" news... wink.gif

QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 11 2010, 22:50) *
This article have just appeared on the USF1 teams new opening page (even though it's dated Jan 3rd it showed up today):

http://www.usgpe.com/news/young-americans-...t-in-jerez.html



Is this just filed under "interesting news about US race drivers" or is it filed under "a hint of possible drivers for the team"?
MegaManson
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 12 2010, 13:35) *
USF1 have refreshed their website:

http://www.usgpe.com/


Just looks like a blog to me, certainly not anything special
listerine
http://www.usgpe.com/news/young-americans-...t-in-jerez.html

I'd say file that under "Two American drivers with a very good chance of being given a super-license, but probably don't come with much sponsorship."

QUOTE
f) be judged by the FIA to have consistently demonstrated
outstanding ability in single-seater formula cars, but with
no opportunity to qualify under any of c) to e) above. In this
case the F1 team concerned must show that the applicant
has driven at least 300 km in a current Formula One car
consistently at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2
days, completed not more than 90 days prior to the application
and certified by the ASN of the country in which the test took
place.
DLaw
Will Red Bull make it to the grid? their car is not even ready for the first test !!

smile.gif
DFV
QUOTE (CompositeKen @ Jan 10 2010, 05:15) *
What the video doesn't tell you is that both the nose and side impact panel tests both failed their dummy tests.

The reason the parts aren't fitted to a test structure or tub is...it hasn't been completed yet.

Sorry, but someone please explain how are they going to test at Barber in 4 weeks when they haven't passed any of the required tests?

Maybe Ken has more up his sleeve than his highly embellished resume.

Don't believe that? Look up the Indy winner records and see if you can find him mentioned anywhere as Chief Engineer for a one, let alone 5 wins. Nigel Bennet and alan jenkins are listed in everything I can find

http://www.teamdan.com/people/j.html

Anybody ever wonder how he could design shocks for Penske Shock and WilliamsF1 team and be Chief Engineer for Mears at the same time?

Better yet, find somewhere where he's named as the Chief Designer of the '97 G-Force--you can find many names associated with it....but not his.

He was involved..but he wasn't Chief or lead designer on any component save a shock or bit of suspension. Ask Penske or Arie. Arie's '97 engineer was Tim Wardrop

http://www.nofenders.net/2007/10/doctor-doctor.html

http://insideracingtechnology.com/indyganasi.htm

http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2009/11/1...gotten-chassis/

The Falcon...ask people involved what the problem was a Falcon...Anderson's disappearing act

Search Ken Anderson and G Force...hmmm. the only thing you come up with is his self-proclaimed genius---does anyone remember that car...most people would run from a car so horribly turned out. I guess some writer should do some due dilience and ask Chip Ganassi who owned G Force in '97 before he sold it to Panoz in 1998

How did he go from shock/designer engineer a year ago to Cheif Engineer? Any one notice how Ken's resume grew from this original story to today's website...we've all read about people's resumes being embellished once they get away with it once...http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=7080.msg49722

Doesn't anyone do their homework anymore?




QUOTE (CompositeKen @ Jan 12 2010, 03:34) *
uh........I work there. There is no real tub built, the one pictured is a dummy carbon shell over a mold and CIC said both the nose a side impact/intrusion panels the team submitted would have failed the FIA test if they had been there and it was attached to a real tub.

A very, very long way to go and certainly no testing in Feb--none of us can understand why Ken and Peter are putting that out to the press...maybe to ensure that the driver's money comes in?

Notice how none of the engineers besides Ken's son were on the video...personal reputation is on the line. Ken's son is as smart as he appears on the video--he's completely ineffectual and can't give or take direction or respond to any type of challenge from the rest of the group...its close to hopeless with he and Ken in charge of design.


CompositeKen: Do you work for CIC or USF1?

As most of your comments seem to come during the night over here in Europe it seems like you are based in the US...
BMW_F1
back to topic.. does anyone know why it tool so long for Cosworth to deliver these engines?.. I am pretty sure that ferrari/mercedes/renault had access to theirs for a long time now..
DFV
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Jan 12 2010, 15:44) *
back to topic.. does anyone know why it tool so long for Cosworth to deliver these engines?.. I am pretty sure that ferrari/mercedes/renault had access to theirs for a long time now..


Cosworth had until some date this year (which I have forgot now) to modify/tune their engines before homologation. Obviously they wanted to take advantage of as much of that time as possible before making a engine that is delivered to the teams. I think homologation date for Cosworth is sometime in february or march so that they also have some information from the tests before their final spec is made.

Remember that Cosworth also started from a engine that had been unchanged from 2006, the others are just carrying over their 2009 engines more or less (in some cases probably less than others...).
CompositeKen
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 12 2010, 14:56) *
CompositeKen: Do you work for CIC or USF1?

As most of your comments seem to come during the night over here in Europe it seems like you are based in the US...



USF1
Clatter
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Jan 12 2010, 14:44) *
back to topic.. does anyone know why it tool so long for Cosworth to deliver these engines?.. I am pretty sure that ferrari/mercedes/renault had access to theirs for a long time now..


As long as the engines are available before the first test what does it matter?
BMW_F1
QUOTE (Clatter @ Jan 12 2010, 21:11) *
As long as the engines are available before the first test what does it matter?

I think it does matter.. that they have to now rush to fit the engine. This will lead to a lot of mechanical problems for the newcomers..
Lazarus II
QUOTE (CompositeKen @ Jan 11 2010, 21:34) *
uh........I work there. There is no real tub built, the one pictured is a dummy carbon shell over a mold and CIC said both the nose a side impact/intrusion panels the team submitted would have failed the FIA test if they had been there and it was attached to a real tub.

A very, very long way to go and certainly no testing in Feb--none of us can understand why Ken and Peter are putting that out to the press...maybe to ensure that the driver's money comes in?

Notice how none of the engineers besides Ken's son were on the video...personal reputation is on the line. Ken's son is as smart as he appears on the video--he's completely ineffectual and can't give or take direction or respond to any type of challenge from the rest of the group...its close to hopeless with he and Ken in charge of design.

Sorry for you and your family that you took the job.
It sounds like you're unhappy there. I hope it works out for you.
Demo.
QUOTE (DLaw @ Jan 12 2010, 13:52) *
Will Red Bull make it to the grid? their car is not even ready for the first test !!

smile.gif


thats the same as last year incase you wern't following f1 this time last year
Slowinfastout
LOL!

Hey, let's all deflect the attention towards Cosworth, the lack of uniforms and CompositeKen wink.gif lol.gif
Demo.
QUOTE (CompositeKen @ Jan 12 2010, 16:09) *
USF1


I take it that's stateside not in Europe isn't it?
f1rules
QUOTE (pio!pio! @ Jan 12 2010, 02:13) *


roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif aha this team is hilarious their level of professionalism rolleyes.gif , just listening to that bright engineer roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif priceless

rmac923
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 12 2010, 11:34) *
roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif aha this team is hilarious their level of professionalism rolleyes.gif , just listening to that bright engineer roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif priceless



We've already made fun of this. There just normal guys used to 14-Hour workdays who are rarely, if ever, in front of a camera. (Save Windsor and Varsha)
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (Demo. @ Jan 12 2010, 11:33) *
I take it that's stateside not in Europe isn't it?


What's with stalking the guy?

Take in his 'contributions', and see how it's all going to pan out..
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (rmac923 @ Jan 12 2010, 11:41) *
We've already made fun of this. There just normal guys used to 14-Hour workdays who are rarely, if ever, in front of a camera. (Save Windsor and Varsha)


It was up to Windsor and to some extent Varsha to make those guys look good.. it's not rocket science.

That kind of rubbish video appearance is the last thing they need IMO.. it would be so easy, and valuable, for them to make something better.
hunnylander
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 12 2010, 18:34) *
roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif aha this team is hilarious their level of professionalism rolleyes.gif , just listening to that bright engineer roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif priceless

For this very reason I started to like them, they're so human.
listerine
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Jan 12 2010, 16:46) *
It was up to Windsor and to some extent Varsha to make those guys look good.. it's not rocket science.

That kind of rubbish video appearance is the last thing they need IMO.. it would be so easy, and valuable, for them to make something better.


I just feel for the engineers in the video. You just get the feeling that they were railroaded into it by management, trying to show something real.

There are four things that matter in an F1 set-up: Facility, Money, Car, and People.
They have shown us the facility, and for what ever reason have chosen not to show us the car (we know that they have a chassis at least)
Just filming a couple of grid girls wrestling in an enormous pile of used bills would be tacky even for Peter.
So all that was left was the staff.
Lazarus II
QUOTE (listerine @ Jan 12 2010, 12:00) *
There are four things that matter in an F1 set-up: Money x 4

Just filming a couple of grid girls wrestling in an enormous pile of used bills would be tacky

Speak for yourself clap.gif


*I did have to fix one part of your post as well.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (listerine @ Jan 12 2010, 12:00) *
I just feel for the engineers in the video. You just get the feeling that they were railroaded into it by management, trying to show something real.

There are four things that matter in an F1 set-up: Facility, Money, Car, and People.
They have shown us the facility, and for what ever reason have chosen not to show us the car (we know that they have a chassis at least)
Just filming a couple of grid girls wrestling in an enormous pile of used bills would be tacky even for Peter.
So all that was left was the staff.


My point was that even with the little USF1 has, they could do so much better with the video(s)... I mean, once you commit to doing this sort of exercise it's absolutely worth it to do it with pride and dedication..

Instead of telling the guys to bunch-up, pretend to work and wait for intruders with a mike and hollow questions, they could have taken half an hour together and stitch up something interesting for the viewers..
DFV
QUOTE (CompositeKen @ Jan 12 2010, 17:09) *
USF1


OK, but even I could claim that wink.gif

Show us some photos etc. that prove you actually are working there (you can PM them to me if you rather want to do that).
Clatter
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Jan 12 2010, 16:14) *
I think it does matter.. that they have to now rush to fit the engine. This will lead to a lot of mechanical problems for the newcomers..


Rush to fit? Nonsense. If there are any mechanical failures it will not be due to when they recieved the engine.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 12 2010, 12:13) *
OK, but even I could claim that wink.gif

Show us some photos etc. that prove you actually are working there (you can PM them to me if you rather want to do that).


He did tell us (and help us) to do our homework as far as knowing Ken Anderson better..
f1rules
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 12 2010, 18:13) *
OK, but even I could claim that wink.gif

Show us some photos etc. that prove you actually are working there (you can PM them to me if you rather want to do that).



he dont need send anything you can believe or not but let people judge themselfes
BMW_F1
QUOTE (Clatter @ Jan 12 2010, 22:16) *
Rush to fit? Nonsense. If there are any mechanical failures it will not be due to when they recieved the engine.


I meant there would be mechanical failures during the season for not having enough time with the engine in the car. This is what happened to Williams in 06 ..
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (Clatter @ Jan 12 2010, 12:16) *
Rush to fit? Nonsense. If there are any mechanical failures it will not be due to when they recieved the engine.


Indeed, USF1 surely knows everything it needs to know as far as fitting a Cosworth lump in their chassis... actually, they probably designed their stuff around the Cosworth specs in many regards.

As for fitting an actual working engine, that takes very little time. The teams do it all the time each race weekend...

The first time is going to be different, but AFAIK they might bother to have a car in which to fit the engine in the first place..
DFV
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 12 2010, 18:19) *
he dont need send anything you can believe or not but let people judge themselfes


Yes, let people judge themselves. My judgement tells me I want more proof to believe him, which is why I asked for that. Is that a problem? It's entirely up to CompositeKen if he wants to provide more proof of what he claims or not...

As an engineer I am used to asking questions and seek evidence and facts before making up my opinion. Others may choose to do different. But I'm not prepared to believe a new poster on this forum claiming to work for USF1 just because he says so... I need more proof or information that is not out there for anybody to Google and claim to be inside info.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Jan 12 2010, 12:22) *
I meant there would be mechanical failures during the season for not having enough time with the engine in the car. This is what happened to Williams in 06 ..


flippin heck?!? You really believe the car is sitting there ready for the Cosworth to be bolted in, started and driven away?
bogi
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 12 2010, 17:34) *
roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif aha this team is hilarious their level of professionalism rolleyes.gif , just listening to that bright engineer roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif priceless



Ron Dennis should be mandatory at every F1 team.
Amrl
Perhaps the head shaking engineer, the treacherous internet forum posting engineer, and the interviewed engineers are all in on the plan?
f1rules
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 12 2010, 18:27) *
Yes, let people judge themselves. My judgement tells me I want more proof to believe him, which is why I asked for that. Is that a problem? It's entirely up to CompositeKen if he wants to provide more proof of what he claims or not...

As an engineer I am used to asking questions and seek evidence and facts before making up my opinion. Others may choose to do different. But I'm not prepared to believe a new poster on this forum claiming to work for USF1 just because he says so... I need more proof or information that is not out there for anybody to Google and claim to be inside info.


i know what you mean and i agree to some extent, but if he is the real deal im sure he will not give any more info to his identity. F1 is a small world.
Sec if he is not the real deal he will exposed soon enough, as slowinfast pointed out. But i understand and respect you seeking answers
BMW_F1
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Jan 12 2010, 22:28) *
flippin heck?!? You really believe the car is sitting there ready for the Cosworth to be bolted in, started and driven away?

this is what I mean..

Sam Michael:

"...There were other engine-related failures but that was because of packagingand other areas of the car that we didn't have time to optimise because it was such a late decision. Cosworth have got a lot of work to do over winter to consolidate and make sure that that reliability is realised for the start of next year."

Q. Have you got enough time to adapt the design of the 2010 car to run the Cosworth engine?

SM: We've been into it for quite a while. Obviously Brawn showed what is possible this year and how you can make an engine decision late, but to think that we wouldn't have a more optimised version in 2011 would be incorrect because there's no doubt that you always in the second and third years of an engine partnership get more and more refined and understand what advantages there are. But there won't be anything significant on the 2010 package that is compromised because we've tackled the issue.



yes, in reality this shouldn't be a problem for a team as experienced as Williams and Brawn but for a team like USF1, I bet it will be a big challenge..
f1rules
QUOTE (bogi @ Jan 12 2010, 18:30) *
Ron Dennis should be mandatory at every F1 team.



lol yes, if he saw mclaren deliver a video like this, with that engineer, he would go insane :-)
Clatter
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 12 2010, 17:49) *
i know what you mean and i agree to some extent, but if he is the real deal im sure he will not give any more info to his identity. F1 is a small world.
Sec if he is not the real deal he will exposed soon enough, as slowinfast pointed out. But i understand and respect you seeking answers


Especially the USF1 world.
Clatter
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Jan 12 2010, 17:49) *
this is what I mean..

Sam Michael:

"...There were other engine-related failures but that was because of packagingand other areas of the car that we didn't have time to optimise because it was such a late decision. Cosworth have got a lot of work to do over winter to consolidate and make sure that that reliability is realised for the start of next year."

Q. Have you got enough time to adapt the design of the 2010 car to run the Cosworth engine?

SM: We've been into it for quite a while. Obviously Brawn showed what is possible this year and how you can make an engine decision late, but to think that we wouldn't have a more optimised version in 2011 would be incorrect because there's no doubt that you always in the second and third years of an engine partnership get more and more refined and understand what advantages there are. But there won't be anything significant on the 2010 package that is compromised because we've tackled the issue.



yes, in reality this shouldn't be a problem for a team as experienced as Williams and Brawn but for a team like USF1, I bet it will be a big challenge..


They could have had the engine sitting on a bench at USF1 for the last 6 months and the chassis would be no furthur advanced than it is now. The delivery date of the engine is not an issue.
BullHead
A lot of little things put together, including the video, do indeed make the situation look questionable. I hope it's not, and things will come to in the end. CompositeKen's appraisal of K Anderson is worrying too. I don't follow US racing series so don't know about his past. (Anderson's that is). I don't think the team will benefit from yet more management with dodgy reputations. That said if I was working for a team, the last thing I would want to do is go posting on forums, in itself bad for career future, and despite any bad news I would be wanting the situation to improve rather than go round broadcasting it...
BMW_F1
Sam Michael disagrees with you.. in 2011 they expect to have a better handle of the engine..
Anssi
I felt like betting today. So I finally answered this poll: yes.

I usually don't take part in these sort of topics, or I avoid giving a yes or no answer. So this is an exception. Maybe because I wish them well and hope to see them on the grid when the season starts.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Jan 12 2010, 12:49) *
yes, in reality this shouldn't be a problem for a team as experienced as Williams and Brawn but for a team like USF1, I bet it will be a big challenge..


That's not really a Cosworth problem then.. unlike how you first made it sound.

Cosworth will surely have given the same information to all their clients in hope their engine performs optimally in each application.. in any case I'd compare USF1 with the other new teams and not Williams.
Clatter
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Jan 12 2010, 17:59) *
Sam Michael disagrees with you.. in 2011 they expect to have a better handle of the engine..


No he doesn't. It's obvious they will have a better understanding of the engine once they have used it for a year, but he doesnt say it's going to lead to engine failures, nor does he say the car will be delayed because of it. USF1 could have had the engine for months and they would be in no better position than they are now. Any attempt to pass the buck to Cosworth is just a very poor excuse.
Docc
QUOTE (CompositeKen @ Jan 12 2010, 09:09) *
USF1


Posting from work ? 11:09AM EST ? On a Work Day..?

While doing finite analysis..?

Or early lunch..?

..or on the laptop out running for Donuts for the Team ?


..or Mom's basement ?
TheF1PERSON
Probably designing toasters. lol.gif

Nah, just kidding.
highdownforce
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 12 2010, 17:00) *
Probably designing toasters. lol.gif

Careful with that!
DFV
QUOTE (Docc @ Jan 12 2010, 19:47) *
Posting from work ? 11:09AM EST ? On a Work Day..?

While doing finite analysis..?

Or early lunch..?

..or on the laptop out running for Donuts for the Team ?


..or Mom's basement ?


Well, we'll just have to wait for CompostKen's next newsflash I guess...
TheF1PERSON
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Jan 12 2010, 19:08) *


Well that is indeed an awesome toaster.

What is encouraging though, is that the team's rumoured drivers are starting to form a clearer picture rather than being ignored weeks ago.

At the moment, as reported in the other thread, the team's lineup is likely to be Rossiter and Lopez, with Alexander Rossi taking the reserve driver role. If this is true, then at least USF1 have 1 American on board.

Also, I don't know whether this has been posted or not, but here's an interview with Dan Gurney.

http://www.usgpe.com/news/dan-gurney-interview.html
MinT
For an American team they seem strangely - boring, average, shy, amateur.

I cringed watching that...

It look like they had rented a sports centre for the day and had spent about half an hour trying to make it look like an F1 facility.
Bouncing Pink Ball
Aw, guys; stop picking on their videos! lol.gif

It's a small team. They're not in a position to be creating flashy media presentations. Besides, they initially promised a somewhat steady flow of video, not a professional looking one. It's kinda hard to have it both ways without a large staff and excess funding, a little something they're now discovering.

*************

@DFV

I don't take careful note of everything he says, but I (and most everyone it seems) remember Windsor mentioning that they were waiting for Cosworth to deliver. That's one example of him speaking about time crunches. I'm not saying they can't get a car ready, just that it would easier to do without slowing development to travel over to Europe with whatever they have when there's nothing wrong with closer tracks. Myself, I don't think a group test is always to all teams' advantage; sometimes it's easier to test nearer home base, where parts are. Exactly as you said.




pio!pio!
CompositeKen.....Anderson? LOL j/k
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