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Bouncing Pink Ball
RE: the Speed story

It's certainly going to be a tight schedule for them. Then again, I expect time's going to be tight for all the new teams, and likely many of the senior ones as well. But yeah, USF1 is leaving things very, very late...one has to wonder how 'tested' this car will be when it arrives at its first race.

Added: I see others noticed the transverse gearbox mention. That's settled then.

Rob
QUOTE (Bouncing Pink Ball @ Jan 20 2010, 16:00) *
It's certainly going to be a tight schedule for them. Then again, I expect time's going to be tight for all the new teams, and likely many of the senior ones as well. But yeah, USF1 is leaving things very, very late...one has to wonder how 'tested' this car will be when it arrives at its first race.


Testing? Pah! Lola didn't need testing in 1997 smile.gif
One
Like Minaldi.

The article say that the team will test at the END Feb in Spain.
Talryyn
QUOTE (Bouncing Pink Ball @ Jan 20 2010, 09:32) *
They're doing far better video-wise now. MUCH nicer. This is more along the lines of what I was hoping for! Too bad about the shaky start to the series but it happens that way sometimes.

[multimedia person hat on] My only picky detail – I'd like a better presentation of the USF1 logo shown at the end. Maybe something slightly animated? I don't know, it's just a wee bit lacking yet, compared to the rest of the clip. [/multimedia person hat off]

Anyone know, are they planning to edit the episodes together and offer them in DVD form at the close of each season? [insert your somewhat unfunny Like they'll finish a full season! jokes here...] That would make sense and would be something I'm sure a few people would enjoy having. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a USF1: Behind the Scenes of F1 special on Speed (or Discovery, or the Science Channel or some such).

BTW – for the hyper sensitive crowd – I'm not bashing the team. All right?


Well SpeedTV does offer a book and "Sounds of Speed" (I think it is). So I could see a book deal with all the images of the factory and parts, etc. You can bet the Speed RPM series this year will all be USF1, so I must admit even though they are a startup, I would buy a DVD with the making of an F1 car (even if they place last). Being an American I already have this appreciation for the team, my love for Ferrari will not die, but USF1 will be interesting to watch and I wish them the best in the year (hopefully years to come).

I would love to see a live feed of the bay where they build the cars, but maybe that should be from Motorland. At this point you do not want to show much detail. For all we know at this point they could be showing us the wrong parts, maybe the nose crash test was just them learning and playing around. Who knows, we shall find out soon enough who does what and when. Ferrari next week! ;)
Muzzinho
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Jan 20 2010, 06:09) *
USF1 just confirmed in that video it has not passed any crash tests yet..... while campos has passed all of theirs.



QUOTE
On the other hand, the mandated FIA crash tests are not yet complete.




Yes, i picked it, The team has not passed any crash tests.

When i gave this information i was bashed for it....

Bashers down.gif down.gif down.gif up.gif down.gif
Scotracer
QUOTE (Rob @ Jan 20 2010, 16:11) *
Testing? Pah! Lola didn't need testing in 1997 smile.gif


They didn't need any...but they certainly could have used some lol.gif
potmotr
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 20 2010, 15:31) *


He confirms the transverse story.


piercey
QUOTE (One @ Jan 20 2010, 16:20) *
The article say that the team will test at the END Feb in Spain.


Right. Test in Alabama first, move to Spain at the end of February. My guess is that their Europe base of ops will be finished around that time, since the last time we saw photos it was still being built.
listerine
The Speed story pretty much confirms what we thought was going on in the team. I am a little surprised that they are not working seven day weeks though.

In other news, Robert Doornbos has spilled the beans about USF1's driver selection program..
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=355397
Only $5m? That will please Lopez.
meb58
whcih basically contradicts what was written on the F1 site...paying drivers are not a requirement, good drivers are...somthihng like that...


QUOTE (listerine @ Jan 20 2010, 14:16) *
The Speed story pretty much confirms what we thought was going on in the team. I am a little surprised that they are not working seven day weeks though.

In other news, Robert Doornbos has spilled the beans about USF1's driver selection program..
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=355397
Only $5m? That will please Lopez.

Slowinfastout
QUOTE (listerine @ Jan 20 2010, 12:16) *
Only $5m? That will please Lopez.


It's not mentioned when exactly they were asking for that sum...
anyway, it shows why they don't have a driver confirmed already, as when you plan on arriving that heavy you'll want solid ground to stand on..
pingu666
i suspect only a few bits of the gearbox will be made inhouse, probably the casing... the gearbox and fancy diff are probably the most complex things on a f1 car now
luskiiimj
Again Muzzinho, you once again read things the way you want. I'll explain again. THEY said they have not passed the FULL crash test. That's not new info. So you are right if you mean they haven't passed the full crash test. But you are not unique, no one has claimed that they passed the full test. The discussion about tests centered on the nose test, which we are pretty sure they "completed to their satisfaction". If you want to say that doesn't count as "passed the full test", then go ahead and keep saying it. But when you claim "the team has not passed ANY crash tests" you continue to be wrong or at least misleading, and therefore worthy of "bashing" which is actually just setting you straight.

Meanwhile, the Speed article is great. That's the kind of info that helps. It seems to me that the team is right on the line, which is worrying to me, but not unexpected.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (luskiiimj @ Jan 20 2010, 12:44) *
Meanwhile, the Speed article is great. That's the kind of info that helps. It seems to me that the team is right on the line, which is worrying to me, but not unexpected.


Now do you understand better why they haven't got a driver yet? They haven't moved on that front because apparently the entire plan is for to the drivers to move to them...

As time goes by, I wonder who is actually willing to commit himself to this team, has a superlicence, and $5M+ to give.. there's Lopez, and... silence..
pingu666
whoever commits wont pay it all upfront
Lazarus II
QUOTE (pingu666 @ Jan 20 2010, 13:47) *
whoever commits wont pay it all upfront

Doubtfull anyone will. Sponsor payments will almost always be made in installments.
Demo.
QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 14:28) *
Right, and my opinion is that this left the realm of an educated opinion a long time ago and has devolved into nothing more than nitpicking by everyone with an anti-USF1 agenda. I'm not going to say USF1 is going to make it to Bahrain. That's too strong of a statement. They MIGHT make it or they MAY NOT. But, at this point it seems to be nothing more than a trollfest. Every little positive news that does come out from USF1 is spun around into something incredibly negative and pinned against the team like proof of their complete failure.

I'm still lol'ing at the "omg they took a picture of the tub that is not acceptable because it should be worked on 24/7 like any real F1 team." comment.


well perhaps you should take a second look at that tub it is a mock tub or where do you think they fit the driver in? roflmao.gif
or perhaps you think they cut a hole in the tub for the driver?



In the end USF1 are no different to any other team they have their share of rabid fanboys who unless you worship their team think that means you must hate them the only difference with them is instead of it being about racing they think its about America.
Heres a clue for them (the rabid fanboys) look at the top of the page it says autosport not politics today.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (pingu666 @ Jan 20 2010, 13:47) *
whoever commits wont pay it all upfront


Yeah, on that matter, Ecclestone sounds like he would rather keep the millions he promised to the new teams, especially those teams without a name he's fond of.. (like Senna, Lotus, Virgin, etc.. those names he likes)

If I was a driver with deep pockets looking for a seat I'd try to see what's that about..
Talryyn
Let there be engines: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3452...amp;id=42203271

I always have had a soft spot in my racing heart for Cosworth. Photo appears to be from Jan 12th, so at least the new teams are getting them.
DFV
QUOTE (Demo. @ Jan 20 2010, 20:20) *
well perhaps you should take a second look at that tub it is a mock tub or where do you think they fit the driver in? roflmao.gif
or perhaps you think they cut a hole in the tub for the driver?



In the end USF1 are no different to any other team they have their share of rabid fanboys who unless you worship their team think that means you must hate them the only difference with them is instead of it being about racing they think its about America.
Heres a clue for them (the rabid fanboys) look at the top of the page it says autosport not politics today.


I think he was referring to the picture where Ken was posing next to the car and someone commented something along the lines of "A real team would not waste time on taking that picture as they would not have the time because real F1 factories are so busy". (As if taking that picture took more than a maximum 5 minutes).

And when you have lots of comments like that, it's not about being "rabid fanboys" or people who thinks "it's about America" (I'm European btw). When I comment on the post about the photo, it's not about worshipping or hating the team. Are we not allowed to point out logical faults in posts without being labelled as rabid fanboys etc.? It just as much seems that when people question the negative posts, people come on here and say we are rabid fanboys, just because we question some of the more unfounded postings and ask for facts to back up claims.

Very few, if any, have claimed that USF1 WILL make it to Bahrain. Quite a few however have claimed that USF1 WON'T make it... Until we are in Bahrain, both statements are just guessing. Just as I would expect people to question it if someone claimed that USF1 was guaranteed to be in Bahrain (back it up with facts), I expect people to respect that I will question it when people claim that USF1 is guaranteed not to make it.
Lazarus II
QUOTE (Talryyn @ Jan 20 2010, 14:58) *
Let there be engines: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3452...amp;id=42203271

I always have had a soft spot in my racing heart for Cosworth. Photo appears to be from Jan 12th, so at least the new teams are getting them.

from link above
JPW
QUOTE (Lazarus II @ Jan 20 2010, 21:05) *
from link above

This came with the pic too:

QUOTE
Fictional US F1 Rendering

Please note that these images are for recreational purposes only, and do not form any part of the official team.

Lazarus II
QUOTE (JPW @ Jan 20 2010, 15:10) *
This came with the pic too:

Well yes, as reading is fundamental....at least for some. wave.gif
listerine
Wow! That's startlingly unattractive.
noikeee
QUOTE (korzeniow @ Jan 20 2010, 00:13) *


About 1000 times better than the first vid. At this point I'm thinking they will most likely make it, although the Speed article is slightly concerning as it seems they indeed are running late on schedule.

And I'm betting that fictional livery was designed by a 12 year-old, it's horrible.
One
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3452...d=1274883402472


Wow i they do this on their car, would look great. No31...
johnmhinds
It has an advert for Virgin on the floor tray as well tongue.gif

To be honest it doesn't look any worse than the kind of stillborn designs you see in NASCAR and ALMS.
Bouncing Pink Ball
I do love a retro livery style. Simple, clean...something like that photo One linked to, modified for a current car, would be beautiful. love.gif Unfortunately, sponsors have to get their space and who knows what that's going to translate to.

That fictional one shown earlier is utter...is it too cruel to call it crap?

One
Ha Pink Ball something like this then?


http://steeljawscribe.com/wordpress/wp-con...06/hellcat1.jpg



Would be great as well, with big YouTube Sign on.
Talryyn
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 20 2010, 14:00) *
I think he was referring to the picture where Ken was posing next to the car and someone commented something along the lines of "A real team would not waste time on taking that picture as they would not have the time because real F1 factories are so busy". (As if taking that picture took more than a maximum 5 minutes).

And when you have lots of comments like that, it's not about being "rabid fanboys" or people who thinks "it's about America" (I'm European btw). When I comment on the post about the photo, it's not about worshipping or hating the team. Are we not allowed to point out logical faults in posts without being labelled as rabid fanboys etc.? It just as much seems that when people question the negative posts, people come on here and say we are rabid fanboys, just because we question some of the more unfounded postings and ask for facts to back up claims.

Very few, if any, have claimed that USF1 WILL make it to Bahrain. Quite a few however have claimed that USF1 WON'T make it... Until we are in Bahrain, both statements are just guessing. Just as I would expect people to question it if someone claimed that USF1 was guaranteed to be in Bahrain (back it up with facts), I expect people to respect that I will question it when people claim that USF1 is guaranteed not to make it.

What is the fine nowadays for not making a race? Would they take two cars to the track just to avoid any fines, which is worse the costs of flying or the penalty from Bernie?

The team has some experienced people working for sure (Williams, Ferrari, Indy Car, Champ Car, etc) - which leads me to think they will race this year. I really wish I was close enough to the factory to make a visit, from previous posts on their blog it seems people are stopping in and being allowed to at least see areas of the shop.

I really hope that fan created image is nowhere close to what the actual livery will look like.
Pablo Vignone

Peter Windsor arrived today to Buenos Aires.
BiH
QUOTE (Lazarus II @ Jan 20 2010, 16:05) *
from link above



roflmao.gif typical nascar style advertising. just look at those little stickers below the drivers mirrors
PNSD
QUOTE (BiH @ Jan 21 2010, 01:23) *
roflmao.gif typical nascar style advertising. just look at those little stickers below the drivers mirrors


Not to pedantic but I think that was the point.
mclarensmps
I like the Boards of Canada track in the nosecone video cool.gif
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Jan 21 2010, 07:30) *
And I'm betting that fictional livery was designed by a 12 year-old, it's horrible.

I think it's intended to be horrible. And while Chad Hurley fronted money to the team, YouTube has not been confirmed as one of their sponors. In fact, Hurley sold YouTube to Google.

QUOTE (One @ Jan 21 2010, 07:57) *
Wow i they do this on their car, would look great. No31...

It would look good, but the problem is that blue and white is a popular color scheme of late. BMW Sauber and Honda and Williams had it and Wiliams will probably continue into 2010, so to the uninitiated, it would just look like USF1 are riding the popular train.
Mary Popsins
QUOTE (Bouncing Pink Ball @ Jan 20 2010, 21:04) *
That fictional one shown earlier is utter...is it too cruel to call it crap?



No. I think you're being very nice in fact.

On a side note it's a bit weird to see YouTube on a formula one, when you can't see a formula one on YouTube. You know what i mean.
Muzzinho
I think USF1 will make it and be a very good and interesting team.

They have provided much of the excitement over the off season with their videos and pictures.

Lopez will score a top 5 result this season, he is a good driver and will be at Mclaren in 3 years.
DFV
QUOTE (Talryyn @ Jan 21 2010, 00:11) *
What is the fine nowadays for not making a race? Would they take two cars to the track just to avoid any fines, which is worse the costs of flying or the penalty from Bernie?

The team has some experienced people working for sure (Williams, Ferrari, Indy Car, Champ Car, etc) - which leads me to think they will race this year. I really wish I was close enough to the factory to make a visit, from previous posts on their blog it seems people are stopping in and being allowed to at least see areas of the shop.

I really hope that fan created image is nowhere close to what the actual livery will look like.


I'm not sure about the fine, but I suspect that the team would face possible exclusion. From the FIA F1 Sporting code:

QUOTE
13.7 If in the opinion of the F1 Commission a competitor fails to operate his team in a manner compatible with the standards of the Championship or in any way brings the Championship into disrepute, the FIA may exclude such competitor from the Championship forthwith.


One of the prerequisites of entering is that there is an obligation to participate at all events (races).
One
There are some extensive misunderstanding developing around my post. So I place my reading. This does not meat to offend any of the concerned. It just another way of thinking, another way of putting up logic.


QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 15:28) *
But, at this point it seems to be nothing more than a trollfest. Every little positive news that does come out from USF1 is spun around into something incredibly negative and pinned against the team like proof of their complete failure.


Seconded.



QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 15:16) *
Oh, man, that's insane. Look at that... Bob Varsha walking around the place like he owns it! You think RON DENNIS, a REAL team manager would allow that in a proper F1 team like McLaren? Ridiculous! You think Jean Todt would let some camera crew just walk up to their designers, interrupting their work, and letting them drop some words for the fan base? NO! How unproductive!


This is untrue. USF1 does in a way they hope to succeed. There is no rule that USF1 MUSr follow how Eurpean does things. I like the way they bring forward their team, it just different. Less marketting, less protective, more easy. It does not look as flashy as Virgin but I still like it.

QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 15:16) *
And, wtf, are those CAD images of the car?! You think a certain Jean Todt back in his Ferrari days would let something like THAT happen?


I donno why you insist that USF1 must do as Toady or Dennis does. There is no logic in it. They want to win in a way they wants to.

QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 15:16) *
He'd off peoples heads! How absolutely unprofessional! Why not just ADVERTISE every single part they'll be designing and putting on the car?!



This comments are written as if you charge the commando of any business operation at any formula one team. I may concern that you may holding up the position, but still it is about winning, but about doing as you say. So I guess we can wait on this judgement. There were so many teams who did t, and yet so little have succeeded. USF1 got this entrant en money and doing in a way they think they win. And this freedom should be granted.


QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 15:16) *
And how /dare/ a team, a new up start who probably hasn't even finalized its livery or sponsorship deals, not press ahead and make some uniforms prematurely which will probably end up changing to conform to whatever title sponsorship they muster up! In fact, that should HAVE been their #1 priority! Not hiring engineers, not buying the factory, or buying the manufacturing equipment... hell no! The uniforms are the single most important part of an F1 team! SO UNPROFESSIONAL!


Uniform does improve for people of some culture. Not always the key. Chinese had their uniform and they were very unsuccessful during the time of Uniform. The sooner they rid the uniform they are almost the richest! roflmao.gif
So what is your criteria that USF1 need uniform?

QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 15:16) *
In fact, they should have made the uniforms and THEN decide to make an F1 team! And speaking of sponsors and finances... how stupid that they don't open up their books for all to see or let the public in on negotiations! I do recall a certain Ron Dennis telling us how his team was in the BLACK now! Now THAT'S how you pander to the public!


I would call this a trolling post. It read:

QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 15:16) *
No doubt everyone in the factory is related by blood! Only the finest inbreeding could produce such incompetence! Hell, every morning they probably have to chase away all the pigs before even getting to work! Probably even get a marmot or two stuck under the engine cover in Bahrain costing them 6 seconds a lap! And that's before you factor in the additional 6 seconds lost just from the lack of uniforms!



QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 15:16) *
(I think I summed up all the arguments I've seen so far. I think the one about the whole lack of uniforms was the dumbest one so far... keep 'em coming! This is GOLD!)


slideways
The last video was much better and it's great to see some left field design choices, but the clock has certainly been ticking and I am shocked to hear that the box is 'to be' designed 'in house'. Hopefully one of, if not both of those is wrong!

QUOTE (One @ Jan 21 2010, 19:23) *
I would call this a trolling post.


I would call it a heavy dose of sarcasm and wit but I guess not quite heavy enough. biggrin.gif
One
QUOTE (slideways @ Jan 21 2010, 10:03) *
The last video was much better and it's great to see some left field design choices, but the clock has certainly been ticking and I am shocked to hear that the box is 'to be' designed 'in house'. Hopefully one of, if not both of those is wrong!



I would call it a heavy dose of sarcasm and wit but I guess not quite heavy enough. biggrin.gif



biggrin.gif

If it were a bit more funny then it could be Mel's pal. smoking.gif
dau
QUOTE (Lazarus II @ Jan 20 2010, 21:05) *
from link above


Needs at least one bald eagle.
DFV
QUOTE (One @ Jan 21 2010, 09:53) *
There are some extensive misunderstanding developing around my post. So I place my reading. This does not meat to offend any of the concerned. It just another way of thinking, another way of putting up logic.




Seconded.





This is untrue. USF1 does in a way they hope to succeed. There is no rule that USF1 MUSr follow how Eurpean does things. I like the way they bring forward their team, it just different. Less marketting, less protective, more easy. It does not look as flashy as Virgin but I still like it.



I donno why you insist that USF1 must do as Toady or Dennis does. There is no logic in it. They want to win in a way they wants to.




This comments are written as if you charge the commando of any business operation at any formula one team. I may concern that you may holding up the position, but still it is about winning, but about doing as you say. So I guess we can wait on this judgement. There were so many teams who did t, and yet so little have succeeded. USF1 got this entrant en money and doing in a way they think they win. And this freedom should be granted.




Uniform does improve for people of some culture. Not always the key. Chinese had their uniform and they were very unsuccessful during the time of Uniform. The sooner they rid the uniform they are almost the richest! roflmao.gif
So what is your criteria that USF1 need uniform?



I would call this a trolling post. It read:



I actually think that Xaus was being sarcastic and his post was meant to ridicule the people who claimed uniforms was essential, that everything has to be done like every other F1 team etc. That's why his last paragraph wrote that he was laughing at the comment that questioned how the team could take the time to have Ken Anderson pose next to the tub and that people should bring on hilarious stuff like that, as he found it very amusing (as in how lame he considered some of the observations to be).

So, in reality I think he was trying to make just the same points you are making in your post, but trying to be sarcastic.

Or am I completely mistaken here confused.gif drunk.gif
DFV
QUOTE (dau @ Jan 21 2010, 10:24) *
Needs at least one bald eagle.


Or maybe a bald be***r??? You know there are other video sharing sites that begin with You.... Maybe that would be a new kind of sponsorship deal...
One
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 21 2010, 11:08) *
Or am I completely mistaken here confused.gif drunk.gif



I personally am not sure what he wanted to do, ... I could not read any of what you wrote, but I assume you are correct.
Hacklerf
QUOTE (Scotracer @ Jan 20 2010, 17:00) *
They didn't need any...but they certainly could have used some lol.gif


wink.gif
DFV
QUOTE (One @ Jan 21 2010, 11:11) *
I personally am not sure what he wanted to do, ... I could not read any of what you wrote, but I assume you are correct.


The way I read some of his quotes it's quite obvious he is just being sarcastic:

QUOTE (Xaus @ Jan 20 2010, 15:16) *
Oh, man, that's insane. Look at that... Bob Varsha walking around the place like he owns it! You think RON DENNIS, a REAL team manager would allow that in a proper F1 team like McLaren? Ridiculous! You think Jean Todt would let some camera crew just walk up to their designers, interrupting their work, and letting them drop some words for the fan base? NO! How unproductive!

And, wtf, are those CAD images of the car?! You think a certain Jean Todt back in his Ferrari days would let something like THAT happen? He'd off peoples heads! How absolutely unprofessional! Why not just ADVERTISE every single part they'll be designing and putting on the car?! And how /dare/ a team, a new up start who probably hasn't even finalized its livery or sponsorship deals, not press ahead and make some uniforms prematurely which will probably end up changing to conform to whatever title sponsorship they muster up! In fact, that should ahve been their #1 priority! Not hiring engineers, not buying the factory, or buying the manufacturing equipment... hell no! The uniforms are the single most important part of an F1 team! SO UNPROFESSIONAL!

In fact, they should have made the uniforms and THEN decide to make an F1 team! And speaking of sponsors and finances... how stupid that they don't open up their books for all to see or let the public in on negotiations! I do recall a certain Ron Dennis telling us how his team was in the BLACK now! Now THAT'S how you pander to the public!

No doubt everyone in the factory is related by blood! Only the finest inbreeding could produce such incompetence! Hell, every morning they probably have to chase away all the pigs before even getting to work! Probably even get a marmot or two stuck under the engine cover in Bahrain costing them 6 seconds a lap! And that's before you factor in the additional 6 seconds lost just from the lack of uniforms!

(I think I summed up all the arguments I've seen so far. I think the one about the whole lack of uniforms was the dumbest one so far... keep 'em coming! This is GOLD!)



The parts I have highlighted is so over the top that it's quite obvious to me that he doesn't mean it. He is just being sarcastic at some of the statements made here. I don't think Xaus really believes that uniforms are the single most important part of an F1 team and that they should have made the uniforms first and setting up the team later. Or that he believes that the lack of uniforms is going to cost the team 6 seconds per lap... That's also how he sums it up and adds that the uniform comments have been the dumbest comments he has read so far.
Buttoneer
Xaus's post was an excellent summary, injected with just the right level of humour, and it's just caught you off guard.

That's not to say that any of the naysayers are wrong because USF1 has a lot to prove and so far hasn't even signed a driver. But I think there are certain key signs and and indicators that we are all looking for, that we are seeing in other new teams (not all of them), and which we are not really seeing in USF1 which give people a reasonable cause to doubt.

Just think, when USF1 rolls out into the sunlight at Sakhir in a few weeks time you can all do the 'I told you so' thing.
One
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 21 2010, 11:30) *
The way I read some of his quotes it's quite obvious he is just being sarcastic:




The parts I have highlighted is so over the top that it's quite obvious to me that he doesn't mean it. He is just being sarcastic at some of the statements made here. I don't think Xaus really believes that uniforms are the single most important part of an F1 team and that they should have made the uniforms first and setting up the team later. Or that he believes that the lack of uniforms is going to cost the team 6 seconds per lap... That's also how he sums it up and adds that the uniform comments have been the dumbest comments he has read so far.



Thanx for this. I now learn more about him. Ye the text you highlighted may or may not have connotation that it is a meta text, referring to other critical concern that he holds elsewhere. A sign of such suggestions such as, as I posted elsewhere..., would have been enough for me to understand that the concerned post is not his belief.

In anyway i personally am satisfied with your explanation. So let us get back to the USF1...
Rinehart
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 20 2010, 15:58) *
You kind of get the feeling that it's touch and go if they will be able to finish all the work they have ahead of them.


Exactly what many of us have been saying were worried about for the last month, to your constant rebutal! wink.gif
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