A few pages back I posted a link with a picture of the Cosworth engines in the USF1 factory, so the teams do have them.

Just so those who don't know about Charlotte, NC..or do not travel much in the US..



Not exactly cornpone..and buckwheat..

I think 12-15 days is absurd. I live in the far southwest..about 2200 miles from the east coast. Delivery to me is faster.

It even has some sports teams that require shipping..NFL..NBA..


Charlotte is the 18th largest city in the US.

I believe that your photo link actually was to the Cosworth photo which showed 10 engines ready for delivery from Cosworth.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3452...amp;id=42203271

it could be the engines tobe used during the season?, and engines tobe used for testing have been dispatched already?

all parties would want to get the stuffed shipped asap incase there was issues with customs...

I think it's pretty clear that the first two engines are at Twin Lakes Parkway by now. Cosworth said they were ready for shipping on the 12th and there is just no way that a consignment of that value would be trusted to a long shipping process. Most likely, it is some manner of mis-quote in the Argentine paper. I suppose it could have been P.W. scapegoating Cosworth for the delays in the program,(He has form.) but that seems just too much of an obvious lie.

Now you are just being silly DFV as everyone knows its taxi drivers during the week and pizza deliveries the weekends they don't race.

Ahhhh, yes that's the way it was And washing the dishes at the hotel during race weekends.

Perhaps they can use the Hotel's uniforms...while they await the Cosworth delivery wagons..

I was speaking of Maritime shipping, as in Matson, Mersek, or other shipping companies.

Yes I do enjoy Charlotte. Very nice city actually.

Transatlantic surface shipping is quoted at 30-60days, unless you thought they were going to hire an entire freighter for two engines?

Strange a good friend is a Maritime Chief Engineer and he makes the run LA to Hawaii run in 5-6 days. I'll have to tell him he's way too fast next time. Maybe he uses the "Bat Boat".

Does the Cossie comes with the McLaren Standard ECU or it should be bought separately

I would think it's seperate; seperate company, seperate bill.

But surface freight is a budget service, you don't get to choose when your container is loaded or when the ship sails. I don't deny that a ship can cross the Atlantic in less than a week, if you need to sail someting quickly you either fill an entire container, and buy a place further up the queue for many thousands of pounds. Or, in this case, you fly it there in two days for less than a grand.

Who said anything about the timing of loading? I was merely stating a time-frame of shipping materials through a maritime shipper.

Guys, some posts have been edited/deleted, please keep the thread about the racing team USF1. Thanks.

Luckily I think McLaren electronics is just up the road from USF1. The US branch that is.

To DFW it makes sense, the picture was from the 12th so I agree that those units were ready to ship. I would think shipments like that are all using special carriers, not your average FedEx. Or it could be Peter and Ken waiting at the airport for the engines to drop down on to the luggage conveyor!

FedEx as well as other carriers have custom critical options. They are commonly used for high value or unique shipments. Champ Car used FedEx to ship the Cosworths to and from the teams. I doubt they used charter cargo for a couple of engines to USF1. The shipping rumors are non issues. Even the shipping of the cars and gear to Aragon will be very easy. As I said before, it will take them less time to air cargo the gear to Spain than it will for the UK teams to drive it down there.

If it's FedEx it goes through Memphis and UPS goes through Louisville. Either can easily handle it. It would make no sense at all to 'ship' them that's for sure.

Both UPS and FedEx offer direct cargo flights to several cities in the US for flights originating both domestically and internationally. While the domestic express packages route through hubs (not all Fed Ex Express route through Memphis anymore, it depends on where it's going and where it's from) the bulk cargo portion of either carrier operates as does traditional air cargo.

Really, guys? Really? Are we honestly having a discussion on the logistics of shipping? :/

Mr Windsor ?

I have a package from the UK...

Yeah, I was writing that post too..

Anyhow, here's what Allen has to say about the overall status of the new teams so far:



http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/01/thou...uari-and-lopez/

That was exactly my impression as well, except for Virgin... I wonder if he is taking their word about them being well advanced technically, as there isn't much info publically available about their progress..

Everybody hurry, get your $.10 in! Time is running out....

The S/N ratio here is getting pretty awful. Being a hater is almost like a cliche need these days.

How about we wait and see?


In the meantime, it's obvious who the second driver will be...

Someone we haven't heard from in awhile. We know what Windsor has been up to, and we see Varsha in the picture...




I predict another driver will be COMING OUT OF RETIREMENT!


Someone capable of dealing with klag, drivers with large attachments, and sound effects!

Presenting the next USF1 driver:

Mr. Davido Hobbo

I don't know that anyone outside of the various race teams are really privy to what is happening within any specific team. Looking at the car on a sim or with a tunnel model is still different than how it will be once it's bolted together. If it were that easy everyone would come out with a car that was perfect at launch. That's why they run the races, right? think in this case it's more of Allen reporting gossip rather than any informed technical comparison.

LOL, Hobbs would be a great choice for the second seat (his Ross Brawn impression is hilarious). Maybe they could get Matchet to be his race engineer with sponsorship from the AARP.

Funny, isn't it?
One just has to throw them a bone ...

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/01/thou...uari-and-lopez/

Double post. See Slowinfastout's post a couple of posts further up on this page...

Any news from Argentina yet?

I was just thinking the same thing.

Perhaps they decided to do it tomorrow and avoid clashing mit Herr Schumacher und Mercedes.

Yikes! I don't think that's how the "leak to the press" thing is supposed to go. I hope, if there is an annoucement tomorrow, that it's worth the wait.

Mmm maybe, though I thought it was all set for 7 pm with the president, I don't suppose they reschedule him very easily. And really that's not a European-focussed news time anyway, more domestic prime time.

USF1 has only said "think early next week". It's been others and press reports stating it was supposed to be today. In the other thread there was post that it was at 1900 local time, or about an hour and a half ago. If it was today I wouldn't expect the Euro press to pick it up until tomorrow but there might be something out of Argentina tonight.

This Argentinian newspapers appears to say it's a done deal.

http://www.corsaonline.com.ar/2010/01/25/N...to-del-usf1.php

As does this:

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story...&type=story

They did it

Corsa also say that the test schedule has slipped again..



So no Barcelona test.

Done deal. the most important part is it looks like they have some team shirts now. That must mean they'll make it after all. The best part of the Corsa story is at the end where the translation calls it the "Yankee Lopez team".

Aha

Google's rendition of the first one:
Do not wait any longer. The Lopez and Jose Maria Cordoba is USF1 pilot of Formula 1. The deal became official after the meeting that took the Cordoba and Peter Windsor, one of the owners of the team, with the president Cristian Fernandez de Kirchner in Casa Rosada.

The meeting also included Henry Meyer, secretary of tourism of the Nation, Remohí Carlos Garcia, president of the Argentine Automobile Club CDA, Urtubey Alexander, president of Top Race, and Philip McGough, who participated in the negotiations.

....

The car, which will be called Type 1 and will have Cosworth engines, is under construction. Would be able to shoot in February in the state of Alabama circuit. Following these tests, the team will travel directly to Bahrain, where on March 14 will start the 2010 season of Formula 1.

The dream of seeing a new accelerator Argentine Formula 1 was made possible by the efforts of the national government through the Ministry of Tourism, and several private companies such as Top Race, The Jack and tafiroles. Among all together eight million dollars needed to secure a place at the brand Lopez Yankee team.

"

i just looked online, and its 8.26 pm argentina time (3 hours behind us brits) so it still could happen, be happening now, or happened xD

While that's certainly a possibility, it's your assumption based on a Google translation. I wait for something in the native tongue before I made that judgment. Besides, they have no data from anywhere so if they could get as much time at Barber than at Valencia and Barcelona it would be beneficial. OTOH, they wouldn't have a benchmark against the other new teams though there might be other downsides I haven't yet though.

I suggest a new watch. It happened 2 hrs ago.

Only $8m not the $15m that was being talked about.

So who is going to be in the second car?

Well I'm embarrassed, long day lol

Another assumption/speculation that turned out incorrect. Most reputable sources in Dec were talking the 8 mil number.

Just another news story: http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_argen...f1-team_1338260

USF1 is dropping the ball here, we are finding news stories all over the internet but nothing on the twitter or facebook sites (personally I only like twitter, the facebook seems goofy for an F1 team). I would rather see an official forum at the USF1 website where you can possibly have responses from the drivers or at least someone at the factory.

That dnaindia story is from a few days ago. It just happened, I'm sure they'll have press releases, etc on Tues.

Oh, OK. Let's hope there are some more announcements coming, anyway.

Pechito Lopez officially USF1 driver:

http://www.usgpe.com/news/us-f1-team-annou...010-season.html

You are quite right, and it's only one source, but then Corsa is a specialist magazine that understands that process, and is usually fairly reliable. My Appalling schoolboy Spanish is, well, appalling. but I'm pretty sure that "se viajaría directamente" is "they will go directly."