When I was studying at the university just over 10 years ago I had a friend who went for a year to a university in Chicago. He wanted to experience studying abroad. He studied applied economics but returned to Belgium after 6 months; claiming that they were lightyears behind the universities in Europe and that it didn't make sense for him to complete that year because it was a waste of time.

they are so bad, calling them a joke would be to give them to much credit, Come on bernie throw them out, and get Stefan GP in

Some of y'all are just full of stereotypes and hate. Equally comical is when someone does a multi paragraph stereotype rant then ends it with "but I don't have anything against them". Hopefully you won't injure your back with that chip on your shoulder.

Reckon they might have confused Liecester Square in the West End with the town of Liecester? Certainly much easier to do than confusing New York with Dallas.

I kind of wish we'd get some news on USF1 already. It seems that every time I check this topic for such news, all I see is mudslinging across the Atlantic.

I've been across the Atlantic several times for pleasure, and studied in the Cambridge for a time. I've been to France, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, even Egypt. I found all of the places I have been to be enchanting in one way or another. I've found the people to be, on the whole, quite agreeable. Having said that, I consider all of those countries and people far inferior to the nation of the United States and the citizens of the US. No offense intended.

Edit: I know I bowed out, but I couldn't resist that one.

Some of our colleges have turned into what we call party schools - I used to hire people coming out of our system and I was appalled that I actually had to tolerate interviewing them. Granted some go to school, work hard, and want to make a living - while others just go and barely get out. I was strict in who I would hire, but some of my coworkers would just take anyone, and two weeks later that new person would quit from not actually wanting to work for a living, or get fired for not wanting to work for a living. Some of our public schools work well, and some are horrible, and some should just be called prisons. My state is not horrid like some, but they teach to get the kids to pass this worthless test... The thought being if the kids can pass this test, they are ready for life and can move on to the next grade level. So because of that the teachers are afraid to teach anything outside of what is needed, if the kids fail the test, the school receives less money, the teacher gets fired, and I am forced to use even more commas in a sentence, sigh... Not sure about this anymore, but some schools get paid off how many kids they have in a class.

Now where I live has a really nice school district, very nice new schools designed more like those found in Europe actually. At this point talking with our neighbors, we are happy with letting our kids go when they are old enough, the teachers go beyond what is normal (and they actually get paid well to teach, which can be rare in some areas).

While I was born in Texas, I am mostly from a German family (I was one of the first I think born here), so I did get to travel back to the EU to visit with my grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. In Holland they were nice enough to let me attend school for one week while I was on vacation, and the differences even 30 years ago now were outstanding to what I was growing up with.

I have been many places in Europe, even been at the bus stop in Spa a few times as a kid. Sadly never did go to Lon Din or whatever that place is called... lol ;)

Every country has pro's and con's, and some have con's (Peter Windsor). Just kidding, maybe..

Now every state here in the US is a bit different from each other, some have horrible drivers (like Belgium - sorry had to say it), some have drivers that drive on the wrong side of the road even (or right side to those in London). Some we consider a tad stuck up, others are really friendly and would give you their shirt. (now some states you could probably get their firstborn, but I have not been personally to see about that) Some get British humor, and some like my wife wonder what causes me to die in tears laughing over it. No offense to anyone from the US or the world for my post. Add the usual disclaimer, this is my opinion, not liable for slander in the court of law, blah, blah.... I should also add - "I don't have anything against them clause as well"

On a side note, has USF1 done anything interesting yet?

Exactly it's easy to think Loughborough University is situated in the 16000 square metres of sprawling county that is Leicester Square

Is that all? the US is 9,826,675 km2, so it's a tiny little shithole then.

Do they have dentists there yet? well maybe I should ask do they have dentists there yet that can actually help ones teeth?

The US isn't even the biggest country in North America!

Does anybody even care where Leicester is? I'll answer this one for you, NO!

1 week until crash test!

Obviously there is an other explanation like all the employees were called in the office -including are two wistle blowers - and threatened.

Check out the USF1 website. Not only is designing furniture a "hobby", it is clearly a means to make ends meet, which is why USF1 advertise his goods on their site.

In addition, is the "American's being crap at geography" a deliberate joke, or do American's really think that Leicestershire is in London?

The team hires a furniture designer as senior designer, then can't even get what county he went to university in!! I mean, didn't they even think to ask him first??

USF1 careers site advert. "Looking for IKEA designers who can pass for graduating in Lon Don, (anywhere in Europe will be good enough, American's won't know the difference between London and Warsaw)."

Not meaning to take the piss out of American's, rather taking the piss out of USF1's opinion of American's.

EDIT: For those American's who don't get the Geography thing, calling Leicestershire "in London" is the same as calling Dallas "in New York".


Your edit shows how much you know about US geography. A better analogy would be to say that New Jersey was in New York. The distance between Dallas and New York is probably quite a bit longer than the entire length of England, north to south. Your geography knowledge of the US seems to lack a little bit...

Since I am not from England, is Leicestershire in London or not??

No, there not a possibility. Not if you asl Peter Windsor. As he has said many times: the team will be at the start line.

That's funny, because at least in my field, the only Universities that are worth a damned are American, Canadian, British, and Dutch.

Not to say that American Universities haven't been diluted by 'democratization' and grade inflation, but the Ivy League and Big State schools (UIUC, UMich, UVA, etc.) are generally far superior to the rest of the world (bar a few exceptions here and there).

And don't get me started on Indian education. When we hire their masters students (or fire them), the seem to be utterly binary: either very good, or complete dreck. Unfortunately, dreck is not the minority.

How would you know that, Sir? Your attempt of defending ignorance fails pretty badly. Your spelling as well. Thank you for making a fool of yourself.

please people.. back on topic..

this is a no ending discussion, that brings nothing new around here...

If I may say something about this topic, since I live in US, the educational level in America is badly deteriorating. According to a recent research, the new generation of Americans will be more ignorant than their own grand parents. Americans are not stupid by nature. They are a very generous people. The problem lies with their scholastic system that's not working, their teaching personnnel and their politicians completly serving the US corporations interest and totally abandoning their voters to their destiny.

As everybody knows in the US money rules and therefore those who have plenty of it get a better education that those who don't have any - large majority.

However, I hope this crisis, caused mainly by ignorance and arrogance BIG TIME, will encourage Americans to understand that without education they will become more isolated that they already are. BTW I hope the UK will not follow the Americans in their non sense.

PS I find incredibly arrogant calling the baseball series the "WORLD SERIES". I wonder why they called it like that.

So.... can anyone educate me about the current state of USF1 or do I need to search back through several pages of tangents to find an answer?

No news at all. Nothing new since Lopez was signed really and the Adrian Valles rumors.

EDIT: Er, and crash testing coming up on the 12th or was it the 22nd? That's about it.

..good grief..

I once met a gent from England who thought the American Civil War was something to do with a dispute about table manners...

I have traveled to many countries..lived in a few. My parents emigrated from Europe to the US..
I have found intelligent life wherever I've been.

I also have met small minded provincial proto humans in every country.

The smaller the mind the greater the need to insult others to gain some needed self esteem...

Just an observation..

Seems a lot of angst regarding USF1...

We'll see very soon..what transpires..



Nostradami continue...

Little Chest's manager says test in the UK (pretty sure they aren't in Liecester...) Feb 15-18 or Mon-Weds. I'd imagine it would go over on an ATA Carnet or other sort of temporary import documentation and would clear customs in a couple of hours. We've sent multiple trailers of equipment (big US sort of trailers, not the little Euro ones ) and have cleared pretty quickly. They'll need to ship no later than Sun afternoon, and that's pushing it for a Mon test. We'll know if that's the case next week.

Yes, no anti-American sentiment here at all! The thread about USF1 has turned into a thread about American's lack of general geography knowledge and general ignorance, in an attempt to justify the idiotic banter about uniforms etc.

Considering this is something we Europeans have had a ball making fun about for a long time, I take offense for this thread being derailed by such stereotypical hyperbole and child play.

I have lived in US now for 10 years and can tell you there is just as many great people as there are the ignoramus. This shit is pretty kindergarten stuff and IMO clearly shows the motives of a said few posters who engage in this.



I hope USF1 make the grid.

I think your friend is full of it, most likely he was kicked out............

I bring you some information so we talk again about what concerns to this thread
According to the magazine Corsa (sponsor of USF1) any candidate for the second seat of USF1 are:
Adrian Valles
Jacques Villeneuve (Is training in austria in same place that pechito)
Christian Klien
Brunno Senna
The Age (Australia)
If sombady still belives in Windsor we will now the name of the second driver in no more than trhee days.

The latest news is this:

http://twitter.com/ericswarren/status/8854567470



Doesn't sound good, as having a floor kind of helps a lot in the way of having a complete car. The complete lack of official news lately outside of twitter is quite worrying.



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BTW, I've been VERY critical of USF1, well... mostly Windsor, Anderson and son.. and I'm surprised to find that many people actually ARE giving a nationality twist to these things.. as if a small outfit could be representative of the whole nation! I guess that shows why I think giving the team that name was a mistake (Force India, as well) It just fuels some stereotypes dumb people have been living with, when it happens to randomly fit with 'em..

To carry on with the nationality theme, I think Lopez and his Argentinian backing might oddly be the most serious aspect of that team so far... and I'll feel sorry for them if it doesn't work out because I guess they'll be very, very bitter.. Pechito seemingly being some kind of national hero and stuff..

Hello all, this is my first post. I do not consider myself uneducated. I am 22 and I am American. I think you must have had bad experiences with the people from here that you have met. I don't know. I am not from the UK so I do not know how far it is from Birmingham to London but I do know that the distance is considerable. I didn't name it the World Series, just so you do know. By the way, Dallas is over 1500 miles from New York.

Back to the topic though, USF1 need to seriously do a press release or something because rumors are filling the void and this silence is deafening.

Surely PW will anounce that he has hired another mr fixit, preferably an Anderson of sorts, Ian perhaps. An a*****e on another forum had similar ideas

Raz

They really need to announce the second driver and that they have scheduled their crash test. Then they need to tell us they have come up with a date for their shakedown at Barber. Really is that so hard?


By the way, those kinda post like the ones above irritate me. That's like me saying that all Europeans are stuck up rich snobs because I had a roommate from Germany and he totally was. Can you really base your knowledge of a culture from a small group of individuals?

Posts have been deleted and edited. Can we please keep it civil, stop attacking posters and keep to the topic.

Thank You

Speaking of the USF1 euro-HQ and what USF1 actually needs to go racing, well.. what's happening with that?

A great deal of PR mileage would be accomplished by showing us how race-ready USF1 really is (if it is..)

To illustrate the point, look at these team 'atmosphere' shots from ClaireVWilliams this morning: http://twitter.com/ClaireVWilliams

I mean, yes USF1 are (trying to) building a car, but ponder for a second about the mountains of other stuff they need to actually operate on a racing circuit.



USF1 is gonna need to hire people and figure out how to be a race team, too... when/if they actually manage to build an F1 car.

Come on guys, just because the mods are asleep, lets not degenerate ourselves here. Have some self respect, keep some dignity, and lets get this back on topic!

The use of Twitter, Facebook and YouTube for many companies over here including gigantic multi nationals have replaced traditional press conferences and releases. F1 and in particular the FOM have traditionally been way behind the curve when it comes to new media. I'd expect more news to come from the new outlets rather than pressers and statements. I think a lot of how some of the teams operate and how the FOM and FIA for that matter is that they are controlled by wealthy, old, white men. I think the new teams may shake that up a bit and even some of the established teams (for example Claire @ Williams and the Red Bull gang) are going to use some of these newer outlets in order to be more fan friendly.

The team is being held to a different standard in spite of offer more insight to the inner workings of the shop than any other team. At first there were those that though USF1 were making too many statements and now that it's cooled off over the last couple of weeks people clamor for more info. They can't win either way and shouldn't try. What they do need to do is finish the car and get to Bahrain. Until they make it to Bahrain (or not depending on your point of view) it's all academic.

Even though USF1 have provided more videos and photos of their facilities, manufacturing of parts and shown their tub. We still get claims that they have not shown anything yet. None of the other new teams have provided the same info during their build process. And I have also noted, and commented, on how it's bad if they have frequent news releases (because they should focus on building the cars) and how it's wrong when they have no press releases (because we need evidence of progress, if they don't provide evidence we won't believe that they are working in the shop...).

So, up until a week/week and a half ago, the USF1 team had shown more of their progress than anyone. The situation has now changed with Virgin having launched it's car and is testing, we have seen spy shots of the Lotus (so we now know there is at least one car). It's now only Campos and USF1 that has not launched their cars nor provided a launch date.

This is worrying (even for me ). Even just announcing a launch date would inspire a bit more confidence. The impression we get now is that they are probably working around the clock but are not 100% confident that they will actually manage to finish the cars in time. Or at least are not sufficiently on top of the situation to know when they have a finished car that can be launched. I still hope they will make it and applaud the teams willingness to go the less traveled route with their own gearbox and apparently very tight rear end packaging (if it's a dead end or will be successfull is another question). But that they are running this late is obviously not a good sign and that they have not met their own predicted shakedown at Barber in the beginning of February indicates that it's not progressing as planned (or that the plans have been to optimistic).

Here's hoping that the team will surprise us all and pass the crash test first time out, shake down their car and do three test days at Barber, show up in Bahrain with a half decent car and progress from there

I think the problem is the videos we have seen are not the most illuminating. Sure they show things happening, but I haven't seen much "this is our tub and it will be on track in feb" etc just a load of "...yer it's going to be tough, but we relish the challenge..." PR guff. We don't know when most of the videos were really made and the pics and vids have been appearing implying they are the latest news yet some of them can be identified as dating further back. I think you're being very genorous with your ..."up until a week/week and a half ago, the USF1 team had shown more of their progress than anyone". Most teams were testing a week and a half a go. McLaren, Ferrari, Renault, Williams, Sauber launched two weeks ago.

The other big issue is that USF1 have given a lot of talk and bandied around dates and targets, but have set nothing in stone and commited to nothing when all the other teams bar Campos have. All of these videos, pics and talk, but no launch dates give the impression of smoke and mirrors and I can't see why anyone would be surprised at the cynisim directed at USF1 when we we're barely a month from the first GP everybody else has a car (even Campos, just they can't afford it). We've seen from Virgin's first tests the sort issues that can arise for a new team, this sort of stuff really needs to be discovered and sorted during testing, not in FP1 on a friday of a GP weekend.

In fact I think the videos are distraction anyway. I think a lot less crap would be flying around if they had just commmited to launch dates. They must now be so hopelessly behind they know they will not able to launch before the first GP or they they have so little grasp of the situation they don't know when they'll be ready.

I was obviously comparing USF1 with the other 3 new teams. Until Virgin launched their car and we saw a "spy shot" of the Lotus, none of the 4 new teams had really shown us much, apart from USF1. No one of us expects Williams or McLaren to have to provide proof during the off season that they know how to build a F1 car...

Sorry, but you need to be clearer with your claims then Mr Rolling eyes....

"So, up until a week/week and a half ago, the USF1 team had shown more of their progress than anyone."

Nowhere do you state that "anyone" was just the new teams, what about my other points rather than just picking on a misunderstanding you have caused?

The videos were a great idea that ended-up badly done... for someone trying to follow USF1's progress, they were actually a mistake. They're just a bunch of random things which would make sense only if they never stopped doing them.

As for what the team has said, it's an absolute 100% fail... at one point before Lopez was signed, he was the main source of news regarding the team. After he was signed, almost nothing.

And of course there was the never ending lies and phoniness of Peter Windsor™ and his general blabbering that amounts to nothing... like europe shutting down during the christmas.. there's 16 more days or something you can add on how late USF1 really is, lol..

It's just weird... it turned out to be exactly what many predicted it would be, I mean not the end-result but the general incompetence of Windsor and Anderson throughout this adventure..

Virgin didn't let much out but Manor was an existing racing team and when they said something it pretty much turned out to be true.. including launch date, shakedown and that stuff.. implying they are adhering to an established organized schedule.

Same goes for Lotus, plus a few pictures along the way and having publicly set objectives from a long way back, that means they are organized and they have balls.

Campos.. well, they're a race team as well and have commissioned a car from Dallara... issues seem to be entirely about funding, or lack thereof..

USF1 compared to all of this seems to be much Windsor-ish.. which is hardly surprising afterall..

Yet more deleted posts. Please stick to the topic which emphatically is not the education level or general knowledge of Americans. Nor is it about military might and civil wars.

Hey, DFV, the concern hasn't been that "they haven't shown anything yet".

Pretty much all along, its been more a matter of - if that's all they have to show so far, then they are leaving things VERY late.
The concern has been the disconnect between reality and the hype coming out of the team.
Particularly where it has related to 'how far the team has progressed', whether with facilities, designs, parts production, driver signings, sponsorship ...
Anyone remember back to the first FIA visit, and the tales even then of things running late?

One reason that we haven't had any video recently would be that the part-time freelancer that has been doing them, went off to Daytona Speed Week - according to his own Tweets.

The difference in 'new media' approach between USF1 and Williams is pretty staggering, and unflattering to USF1.

Remember that USF1 have not given any precise target dates for ANYTHING at all (except being in Bahrain). To me, that would fit with CompositeKen's description of the situation as 'chaotic'.
The current rumours about crash testing and track testing dates have come from the Argentinian manager of the only contracted driver. They haven't come out of Charlotte.
Its rather odd that there should be so little PR coming out of the team, especially in view of the concerns being publicly raised about their readiness.
While I doubt that more vague platitudes about being in Bahrain would help, I can't see why, if McGough's test rumours are true, the team does not actually put out the news itself. Surely that would act to quell bad rumours and be 'good news' for the team?
Lack of confirmation makes it sound as though McGough has gone public with some BS that he was given privately.
Or is it Lopez/McGough preparing extraction from between a rock and a hard place, having discovered that there wasn't even enough of a tub for a seat fitting?

Since being in Charlotte, with its local hi-tech ecosystem, is such an advantage to the team, does anyone think it odd that they should be supposedly shuttling bits across the Atlantic for test approval, AND that the only supplier we have been given evidence of would be the ENGLISH sub-contractor doing the the wiring loom, er, in England?
Have they made any use yet of Windshear? Or has the design been entirely 'virtual' so far?

I would like there to be a competitive US owned F1 team, but USF1 is not showing any signs of being such a team. Even if they make it to the start of a Grand Prix, which there has to be huge question marks against, they appear to be so late and so under resourced that they just risk being a laughing stock.

Sorry, I've been out of the loop a while but it seems from this thread I haven't missed much.

Just my 5 cents: I try to stay on top of the organzational and management structures of F1 teams, and has been doing that in a more structured (yet hobby) manner for 10 years or so - looking at both historical data and current, keeping by now a quite large database that tracks through sort of cluster and social networks analysis on who has worked with who at what point in time and in what position. I've been keenly interested in teams (e.g. Sauber, BMW, Toyota, Toro Rosso) that are setting up outside of Motorsport Valley, to get some kind of measurement on turnover and mobility of the workforce (esp. engineering talent), and looking at from where the senior engineeers and so come from.

I think Peter Windsor is correct when he says that it is almost unique in modern privateer F1 to set up a team from scratch - the wibe you get from every interview be it written piece or youtube-video is that it is sort of a garden-shed team, "jumpers for goalposts" etc, very much driven by keen interest in the sport, enthusiasm and exuberance of youth. I'm not saying Windsor and Anderson are our time's Hesketh and Horsley (certainly there's nothing playboyesque over at the Charlotte factory, and even if Chad Hurley probably wishes he was some kind of Hesketh, he seems to have little interest in the sport), but you get a sort of (over)enthusiastic punter feeling about the team. But what is really unique is the lack of top engineer talent with current F1 experience that USF1 has accrued to its most senior positions, and this is what worries me - there would need to be some experienced senior engineers with an F1 background there. It is unheard of in F1 even when starting from scratch to have so few senior managers with a strong recent background in F1. And it shows how hard it is to set up so far away from the main pool of top tier F1 engineering talent/management. Especially nowadays when F1 engineering and design is more about the management of individuals, design teams etc - rather than finding the new Adrian Newey (the lone genious in drawing the car by himself in the back office), you'd need to go with people who have experience of managing an F1 operation. It is not a coincidence that when looking at employment data over 20-years in F1 you're finding the same senior management, senior engineer names popping up at different teams at different time. F1 is a very unique working environment, setting it off from other "high pressure" industries as well as other motorsports. Hiring someone who has almost no merits to his name as chief mechanic is baffling to say the least, as is Jason Anderson's role.

A good starting point and illustration are that several of the people, including a senior engineer, say straight-faced on camera that one of the reason they came to USF1 was that they were rejected by every other team on the grid. Also the over all organizational structure baffles me somewhat when comparing to other teams, based of course on available data (which for USF1 is easier to get your hands on than many other teams due to their "transparancy image") - Ken Anderson seems title-wise to be seated on a large number of chairs (TD & chief designer?). The people with most F1 experience at USF1 are the "external consultants" that they are using - designers such as Bernard Ferguson (former Cosworth Director of Motorsport) Kenny Hill (of Metalore who've worked with most of the big F1 teams, especially worked thight with John Barnard) and Gordon Kimball (former technical director of Bennetton in the early 1990s among other things. Amusingly, he seems to be referred to as "Gordon Kimble" in PW's blog, would think it would be could for them to proofread, Kimball could even infuse some cred into the more incredible part of their organization... ), the problem being that these guys have also been out of the F1 loop for a while - and in F1 where everything moves fast, that's a problem, that's also the case with F1 veterans like Dave Stubbs, albeit not as affected as Op.man. Also external consultant are just that external consultants they are not in the factory every day managing the operations.

The way I understand USf1 organization in terms of more senior management is something like this (we've hears on the videos that they have different departments but because they are so small they work very tightly so I won't draw an organizational chart per department):

Ken Anderson – Team principal, president and CEO. (TD Ligier (1988), TD Onyx)
Carl Flesher - director of communications
John Anderson – Team manager (PacWest)
Jason Anderson – Lead designer/Design Director (experience unknown)
Eric Warren – Chief Aero (Michael Waltrip Racing, NASCAR)
Scott Bennett – senior designer, suspension (IRL)
John Burden – Senior designer (experience unknown)
Kevin Bialas - Composites Manager (Elan Motorsports)
Steve Brown - Director of R&D (former Brawn, apparently "head of R&D" according to USF1, but cannot find confirmation on this)
Stuart Kay - Electronics Manager
??? - Head of vehicle dynamics
David Stubbs - Operations Manager, European Operations (Red Bull Racing, Holland A1 GP)
Dave Skog - Production Manager (Stewart Haas Racing)
Keith Burton – Chief mechanic (limited ALMS experience)
???? - Race engineer 1
???? - Race engineer 2
Brian Williams: Machine Shop Manager (former PacWest, Michael Waltrip Racing (NASCAR))
Dushan Hanisko (former Renault F1 engineer, no senior management experience), Controls System Manager


EXTERNAL CONSULTANTS
Bernard Ferguson – engine consultant, European Supplier Liaison
Kenny Hill, external consultant (Metalore), drivetrain components, question is if he is not more a supplier than a consultant.
Gordon Kimball, external consultant, composite design - if I understand it he actually works as a consultant to Hill and not USF1.

btw. if you have corrections & additions to this list please let me know. Cheers.

From the videos:

Phil Morse - Vehicle Dynamicist
Garrett Brady - Composites Design Engineer
Kevin Bialas - Composites Manager
Martyn Joosen - Stress Engineer

Guys, what´s the word on the current situation for USF1?

yeah, thanx I have those and some other names as well (see below), my understaning is that they're not senior engineers/management but shop-floor.

Other personnell:
Phil Morse – Vehicle dynamist
Garett Brady – composite design engineer
Mike Fuller - Composite Fabricator
Scott LePage – machinist (Gordon Motorsports)
Martyn Joosen – stress engineer
Rob Wallace, Design Engineer
Brian Barr, Business Development Consultant
Brian Bonner, Business Development Consultant
Mike Draisey - Engine Installation & Systems Designer (Richard Petty Motorsports)
Chris Woodward, CFD Analyst (Evernham Motorsports)
Andy Barbee, CFO

Sorry if you misunderstood. It's just that on this thread when we have discussed USF1 we have been comparing them to the other three new teams and what progress etc. they have made compared to USF1. If you are new to this thread I see that my post didn't make it very clear that I was just comparing with the other newcomers (as most of us take it as a given that the established teams know how to make a car since they have done so for the previous seasons).

And as for your "other points", I didn't argue that the videos contained "the right things" or that they should hvae been better. Just that they actually provided videos and pictures etc. Which none of the other three new teams did, to the same extent as USF1, during the off season. If you didn't like the videos that's a completely different discussion and down to subjective views.

The other points was, as far as I can see, exactly the same points I was making. That two of the other three new teams now had shown their cars and had surpassed USF1 in information and progress and that USF1 should provide a launch date. I even said I was worried about the situation.

So, apart from the misunderstanding about the three teams being the comparison, the only point you made that I hadn't allready made was that you would have prefered the videos to have contained other things. This is a point I have no strong views on as you are entitled to your own personal opinion on this

Thanks for a very informative and well founded post

"I think the future of USF1 and Campos are pretty closely tied together. They're in a similar situation, they kinda run out of time and money."

We hear that sort of thing all the time. This time though, it's Bob Varsha saying it. At about 23:00 in the podcast. http://www.formula1blog.com/2010/02/12/exc...rsha-interview/

If Varsha is saying that then it must be true. Looking quite dire for USF1

Let's face it, it's not going to happen by Bahrain, is it?

And it does at all it's going to be so far off the pace it's going to be an embarassment.

If I were a US patriot I would not want this clearly not US disaster representing my country.

No money, no candy.