Please forget about the receptionist lol

That means absolutely nothing apart they still have someone answering the phone.

Hurrrgh, I can't even keep up the positive outlook into USF1 anymore.

I look forward to the book explaining everything by Maurice Hamilton in the next few months.

It was me. I WANT TO BELIEVE!

(No, I'm not Mr Windsor! )

According to the sources consulted by Telam today, "within the next 48 hours" will be clarified the situation and will know exactly about the future of Lopez.

http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr...s%3D1%26sec%3D1

as much as I dislike Peter, I feel sorry for the guy. When he said that he probably wouldn't have been accepted if the name of the team did not have US in it, I came to the conclusion that, as the other poster already mentioned on the last page, he entered with the presumption of getting several sponsors from the US to back his project, not just Hurley. It seems to me that all this time his efforts have gone towards getting the finances needed for this. Aparently the initial investment by Hurley was not enough and the payment from Argentina came very late.

the location, suppliers, drivers who lack experience, uniforms...and other items of discussion on this thread which lead some to believe that the team would not make it, is IMO irrelevant. When you don't have the funds you simply cannot build a car (either yourself or pay someone to do it for you) . Campos was open about this as opposed to Peter . The FIA must have given these two teams entries based on their marketing plans of going out and attracting sponsors.

who is Stefan by the way? Is he another Mateschitz?

Shhh...Don't ask what Stefan does, we would like to keep you around these boards, please do not ask any more questions like that.. lol I kid, maybe, some say he pays in cash, and has the Stig as a test pilot.

Non-compliance in what way? Failed the test? Or failed to make a car to crash test?

No more biased Peter Windsor on SpeedTV!!!

I wonder who they hired in his place?

Pechito has his USF1 race suit on....sweeeeet

No sponsors though. Looks like they had about 5 shirts made, and one race suit.


USF1 is done though. They would have come out with a denial if nothing was true.

Its a shame for Pechito, Hopefully he gets rescued with dallara and campos

Good question lol.. Zoran Stefanovic if you can figure out where he gets his money it could be fun!

I disagree about the funding thing... on paper anyway USF1 was supposed to have a sound plan as it was cross-checked by a credible firm, Deloitte, and not just the FIA...

So either they were BSing everyone from the get go... or they simply misspent their monies..

IMO with the kind of inexperienced people heading this you could have dumped all the cash imaginable on them they would still have underperformed compared to the others.

they did not show up.

All we know is...if Bullshit could fly Stefan would be a Wing Commander.

Very possible...

that is what I thought at first but I think the FIA knew all along just like with Campos. They just didn't have the money at first otherwise it wouldn't have taken such a long time to start building their Charlotte facility . It was kind of late given the date the team was accepted . Also the reports from Argentina are confirming that only 800K were deposited on a US bank account and that was very recent. The rest of the 8 million was never delivered.

+1.

At least he has two built wings to command!

There are so many rumors now it is head spinning. Corsa mentions crash test, but then does not back it up with anything - did they go, did they fail, what?

My heart says the team is done, the goose has been cooked in the autoclave. But one still wonders what is Hurley really doing, is it for a merger, or does he really want Campos now, does he have the F1 bug that badly now?

The void of facts needs to end, and these rumors need to start getting checked on the list as fact or false. Peter come out wherever you are! (Or sorry someone inside the team that knows the truth)

Well, one thing the Racecar Engineering article was useful for is that it said the money started coming in on July 29th when the Concorde Agreement was finalized.. but this was probably true to all the new teams to some extent. So Imo there's no excuses there.. that they chose to be a new team from the ground up is very much part of the questionable decisions they have taken.. in fact they were proud of that until it became clear it was silly.

As for the Pechito money, it's perfectly understandable.. in my view he's not paying to build the car, he's paying to race it.. or was lol

We need another post from CompositeKenAnderson

Crash.net Article on USF1/Campos situation

The rumors are gaining more steam.

Or CompositeKen - but I think we ran him away, when indeed he might have been real (still not sure, but some of his items are turning into strong rumors, maybe fact at the end of the day).

Dr. Warren should reveal something, but only on weekends. He does not respond to tweets from people not on his list, it seems, not that I tried much... lol

Well 'USF1 is a total failure' would be a pretty good summary of his posts and so far every new rumour/bit of news is confirming that, we don't really 'need' much more other than official withdraw.

the last part is just a personal opinion nothing more. They most probably still think they can have the type 1 ready if they injected more cash into the project.

How did they manage to bullshit Racecar engineering mag, which reported that the "car looks very fast, and will be fired up in the next week" which was released about 3?? weeks ago.

Actually I just lost my optimism, with USF1's failure, any chance for a USGP is gone.

In fact the only hope of F1 in America now rests on Alexander Rossi lighting up the grid in GP3 or Force India firing one of it's drivers. That moves Di Resta into the 2nd seat and gives J. R. Hildebrand a test roll at FI.


Either way, losing Indy and USF1 are 2 major blows to American fans.

EDIT: Unless the USFCampos merge happens, and Hurley's money comes with strings attached (Making the Team "American", not Spanish)

Ready when?

They've been seriously misleading us since early January, and with the lack of an official update they still are now...

Even Gascoyne is now dropping hints that they were disorganized... and this is interlaced, if you're disorganized and unprofessional, you'll have a much harder time securing funding as it shatters the confidence level of would-be investors..

Windsor did himself no good selling dreams instead of truth... I can't believe the problems only started in January, they just became evident.

As I said it looked very much like an arse lick of an article with no substance, for whatever reasons..

It took 12 million posts but we have a winner.

who were the people that were shooting down compositeken?

Don't give up hope. F1 should be in America. The teams want to go to America.

It could happen.

So you believe that Deloitte firm that was responsible for checking the plans of the new teams fell for the presumption of getting several sponsors?

I'm sorry but that's highly unlikely.

Man, id love to see the shitstorm going on in that factory at the moment.

Id be very suprised if the whole thing isnt bing stripped by underpaid employees right now, with The Anderson's and Windsor vanished without a trace.

I did, but was still under the impression, USF1 had crash tests scheduled (from multiple sources no less).

They did have them scheduled. They just didn't show up.

Why?

Glossy magazines can have rather long production timescales.
That article might well have been written long before Christmas.
And of course they'd accept what the Team Principal told them about their schedule. They'd have believed him if he'd said it on SpeedTV.
Enough people here wanted to believe him.



Time to fight BS with BS.
Talryyn - get on the phone again, but this time ask for Windsor. Say you are trying to place a call to Windsor for Bernie, but that his mobile seems to have been switched off. Ask WTF Bernie can't reach him ... {and I'm sure you can busk it from that point}

I wonder if Windsor will apologise to us "lazy" Europeans who actually managed to build some cars in time?

But it's not what the teams want, or even the FIA wants is it? It's all about Bernie's checkbook. If he can't make money, he's not coming. No city has the money to match his fees and the only track that could host a race (Indy), doesn't have Tony George to approve it anymore.

It's not all bad, MotoGP has a comfy foothold here (3 Riders, 2 Races). I had a great time at Indy last August, I hope to go again this year.

So, isn't it time to rename the thread to USFail 1?

Just saw this gem on Twitter...

I don't feel sorry for him, having been in F1 for over 30 years and managed Williams and also the Ferrari technical office he would know what is involved in F1 and what needs to be done, I am sure he went into F1 with the best intentions but the ones I feel sorry for are the guys at the factory who aren't being paid, those that located from the UK like that Renault and Brawn guys and now have to pack up and look for another job again, I sure don't feel sorry for a millionaire journalist

More news from one of the pechito sponsors, looks like pechito is out from USF1 but the team still dont give up. The first windsor interview in days.
Corsa Magazine Argentina

so saturday a key meeting?

PW: “seguimos trabajando. Este sábado tenemos una reunión clave para el proyecto”.
We still working. On this Saturday we will have a "key metting" for the proyect

maybe this saturday they just shut the doors and stays sweeping..

m sure nothing will come from it.

There have been far too many "key" announcements missed by USF1.

Just another push back of deadlines.



Do they have thier November "roller" built yet??

That doesn't say much lol.. apart Windsor is too busy to spend 1 more minute to dispel some rumors and that he has a meeting on Saturday...

FFS this guy is such an epic bullsh*tter lol

no longer believe in peter windsor even if he tells me that the sky is blue, has not met one thing he has promised. Just another Bluff.
Perhaps he is busy in meetings with his lawyers trying to avoid jail

One Second - Edit: Voicemail I will try again after lunch. 1-704-947-8070 - it is listed on google so it is not like I am sharing state secrets.

Why you feel sorry for Windsor? The guy never "managed" anything in F1, nor did he have any credentials to lead a team... and then suddenly he throws himself up as teamowner/manager etc... (yes, Flavio Briatore never managed a racing team before entering F1 but he made a commercial succes of Benetton in the US with establishing a franchise of 800 shops nationwide)

then PW starts all this bla-bla of going to present F1 in a new way.... we've seen nothing in the sense of new presentation except for deafening silence.

I dont feel sorry for this man who made people believe in his project and sold empty hope and air

holy lord lol.. please don't hound that poor receptionist again hahaha..