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Yellowmc
Kubica is caught in an uncomfortable position, the emergence of Vettel has pushed him down the list.

The two drivers of most value right now are Vettel and Alonso (Hamilton is not included because he is very unlikely to leave Macca)
lustigson
Lola confirms they will issue an entry for 2010, and judging from the location of the lolagrandprix.com URL, it will be under the Lola Grand Prix banner.
lustigson
There are now as many as 12 potential new teams for Formula One in 2010:

  1. Lola
  2. USF1
  3. Wirth Research
  4. Epsilon Euskadi
  5. RML
  6. Formtech
  7. Campos Racing
  8. iSport
  9. Litespeed
  10. Prodrive
  11. A 2nd US team
Owen
7 are serious (according to Max).
lustigson
QUOTE (Owen @ May 20 2009, 13:08) *
7 are serious (according to Max).

I gather they are Lola, USF1, Wirth Research (Simtek?), Epsilon Euskadi, Campos Racing (Barwa Addax), iSport and Prodrive (Aston Martin?).
Gilles4Ever
QUOTE (Owen @ May 20 2009, 13:08) *
7 are serious (according to Max).

12 according to his submission to the French court?
brabhamBT19
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75440

According to sources, the list of teams that were looking at moving to F1 were Lola, USF1, Wirth Research, Epsilon Euskadi, RML, Formtech, Campos Racing and iSport.

its 8 teams and with Williams, Brawn and FI its 22 car field! eek.gif
Turbo4
lol, will a Williams seat be a prized seat again? lol.gif

Rosberg shouldn't go anywhere just yet.
lustigson
QUOTE (Turbo4 @ May 20 2009, 14:43) *
lol, will a Williams seat be a prized seat again? lol.gif

Rosberg shouldn't go anywhere just yet.

You got that right. The main contenders would definitely be Brawn and Williams.
Rob
Any breakaway series might include provisions for customer cars and the monetary benefit of not having CVC leach profits means that the supposed new entries might well consider defecting as well.
GhostR
QUOTE (lustigson @ May 20 2009, 12:12) *
Campos Racing (Barwa Addax)


Barwa Addax have stated that the Campos team mentioned is *not* them and they aren't going to F1. Must be Campos setting up a new team.
Galko877
Bild: BMW are unsatisfied with Heidfeld and he is likely to be fired at the end of this season. Nico Rosberg would replace him.
FlashMaster
QUOTE (Galko877 @ May 23 2009, 09:12) *
Bild: BMW are unsatisfied with Heidfeld and he is likely to be fired at the end of this season. Nico Rosberg would replace him.


BMW Kubica - Rosberg
Williams Hülkenberg - Nakayima

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Barramut
QUOTE (Galko877 @ May 23 2009, 06:12) *
Bild: BMW are unsatisfied with Heidfeld and he is likely to be fired at the end of this season. Nico Rosberg would replace him.

Heidfeld has just broke the F1 record of consecutive finishings [25].
I think they want a driver that crashes more.
The problem is Nick is overpaid.
WACKO
QUOTE (FlashMaster @ May 23 2009, 10:58) *
BMW Kubica - Rosberg
Williams Hülkenberg - Nakayima

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With all due respect, I haven't seen anything brilliant from Hulkenberg. He may have a smooth talking manager with enough money to even buy him a seat for the next 25 years,
I think he and Nakajima would be a very poor line-up for Williams. Nakajima hasn't been brilliant either and is only there because of Toyota demands. They definitely need more experience and stamina.
A switch from Rosberg and Heidfeld could work out well for both. Nick had a good season there in 2005 and seems to click well with the team (although they did not fancy his move to BMW back then).
quasi C
Bit more on Alonso - Ferrari:
http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/...-about-ferrari/
metz
QUOTE (Galko877 @ May 23 2009, 03:12) *
Bild: BMW are unsatisfied with Heidfeld and he is likely to be fired at the end of this season. Nico Rosberg would replace him.

The only one that has scored any points so far.
He is obviously the problem. roflmao.gif roflmao.gif

As to overpaid, AMuS reported in Sept '08, Nick and Robert are now on identical 8m Euro salary.
brabham bt50
Williams F1 will be racing with Cosworth engines in 2010, the answer is given today by Williams F1 itself.

The more than reliable and very respected journalist Michael Schmidt of Auto, Motor und Sport writes today

"Um die unterschiedlichen Meinungen innerhalb der FIA wieder unter einen Hut zu bringen, wurde am Renntag von Monte Carlo eine weitere Sitzung anberaumt. Darin schworen sich die FOTA-Teams Einigkeit, die aber schon einen Tag später dadurch gebrochen wurde, dass Williams seine Nennung für 2010 abgab - trotz der Drohung der in der FOTA vertretenen Hersteller, für Streikbrecher keine Motoren zu liefern."

So, the fact that Williams has registered for F1 in 2010, means none of the FOTA members will provide Williams F1 with engines in 2010,
so it must and can only be Cosworth. The fact that Williams F1 has not waited till after the FOTA meeting of today or till Friday to register
makes clear Williams F1 has an engine deal, and it is Cosworth.
lustigson
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ May 27 2009, 17:18) *
Williams F1 will be racing with Cosworth engines in 2010, the answer is given today by Williams F1 itself. [...] So, the fact that Williams has registered for F1 in 2010, means none of the FOTA members will provide Williams F1 with engines in 2010, so it must and can only be Cosworth. The fact that Williams F1 has not waited till after the FOTA meeting of today or till Friday to register makes clear Williams F1 has an engine deal, and it is Cosworth.

To enter for 2010, a team has to have an engine contract. Since Williams have a valid engine contract with Toyota, I gather that they will be granted an entry on the basis of said deal. Should Toyota not enter, they might very well supply Williams with engines, yet. If not, the Japanese are in breach of contract, and Williams may expect some kind of payment, and yet op for Cosworth power, which would be paid for by Toyota. Much like Honda pays for Brawn's Mercedes engines (and the rest of the car and team, for that matter).
Hames Junt
According to James Allen, McLaren are looking at Glock to replace Kovalainen.
Rob
QUOTE (Hames Junt @ May 28 2009, 14:17) *
According to James Allen, McLaren are looking at Glock to replace Kovalainen.


Mercedes will be pleased. up.gif
iotar
QUOTE (Hames Junt @ May 28 2009, 13:17) *
According to James Allen, McLaren are looking at Glock to replace Kovalainen.

Ridiculous, he's worse than Kovalainen. Easily beaten by ageing Trulli, many mistakes, top car this season and 0 results.
FlashMaster
QUOTE (iotar @ May 28 2009, 16:19) *
Ridiculous, he's worse than Kovalainen. Easily beaten by ageing Trulli, many mistakes, top car this season and 0 results.


Jarno Trulli 14.5
Timo Glock 12

So what? I bet you never watched one race of his gp2 championship. Glock drove brilliantly in Shanghai and we all know that Trulli is one of the best qualifiers

He's at least equal to Kova
brabham bt50
On the matter of Glock to McLaren, wouldnt rule him out against the likes of Sutil and Rosberg to get the seat.
lustigson
Prodrive is now too confirmed to have lodged an entry for 2010. They will run as Aston Martin from 2012, and are likely to have a technical partnership with McLaren and/or Mercedes.

About the latter: if Force India and Prodrive have a technical partnership, what happens to Brawn's customer deal? I find it hard to believe that Mercedes will provide four teams with engines.
kaivo
Glock is stronger in race.
Glock is very good :Y
Owen
QUOTE (iotar @ May 28 2009, 15:19) *
Ridiculous, he's worse than Kovalainen. Easily beaten by ageing Trulli, many mistakes, top car this season and 0 results.

He appears to be more consistent than Kovy.
lustigson
So, we now have 4 confirmation of entries for the 2010 Formula One World Championship lodged with the FIA:

  • AT&T Williams
  • Campos Meta 1
  • Team US F1
  • Prodrive
Rob
QUOTE (lustigson @ May 29 2009, 11:29) *
So, we now have 4 confirmation of entries for the 2010 Formula One World Championship lodged with the FIA:

  • AT&T Williams
  • Campos Meta 1
  • Team US F1
  • Prodrive


Hasn't Litespeed already lodged an entry?
lustigson
QUOTE (Rob @ May 29 2009, 12:31) *
Hasn't Litespeed already lodged an entry?

Could be, but these are the teams that have confirmed they have lodged an entry. We'll know for certain on 12 June which teams lodged an entry, and which teams have been refused. I say refused, because, should all current teams plus the three new ones above, plus the expected Lola team all enter, there's already one team too many.
Raj
QUOTE (Rob @ May 29 2009, 16:01) *
Hasn't Litespeed already lodged an entry?


What About Lola? Werent they supposed to be interested for 2010? confused.gif
Rob
QUOTE (lustigson @ May 29 2009, 11:36) *
Could be, but these are the teams that have confirmed they have lodged an entry. We'll know for certain on 12 June which teams lodged an entry, and which teams have been refused. I say refused, because, should all current teams plus the three new ones above, plus the expected Lola team all enter, there's already one team too many.


Didn't Bernie talk up the chances of pre-qualifying returning? Litespeed are advertising for F1 staff in the back of Autosport, so you'd imagine they had lodged an entry. smile.gif
lustigson
QUOTE (Raj @ May 29 2009, 12:40) *
What About Lola? Werent they supposed to be interested for 2010? confused.gif

They confirmed they are, but they haven't stated they've lodged an entry. I reckon they did, though.
Hippo
QUOTE (FlashMaster @ May 28 2009, 16:25) *
So what? I bet you never watched one race of his gp2 championship.

That and also the year before, when he showed some brilliant racing against Hamilton especially in Turkey. Check youtube for the GP2 race in Turkey in 06 if you haven't seen it. It's a great watch.

I expect Senna and Pantano to join F1 next year. I suppose Senna will get a seat in a pretty decent car. And Pantano might get a seat with Lola if they really join F1 again. And this years GP2 champ surely will get a seat too somewhere.
thiscocks
QUOTE (lustigson @ May 29 2009, 12:07) *
They confirmed they are, but they haven't stated they've lodged an entry. I reckon they did, though.


...they are expected to in the next few hours..
Owen
QUOTE (Raj @ May 29 2009, 11:40) *
What About Lola? Werent they supposed to be interested for 2010? confused.gif



Lola is in
rodlamas
QUOTE (lustigson @ May 29 2009, 07:29) *
So, we now have 4 confirmation of entries for the 2010 Formula One World Championship lodged with the FIA:

  • AT&T Williams
  • Campos Meta 1
  • Team US F1
  • Prodrive


According to what the Brazilian press said yesterday, all teams would stand by Ferrai until today's morning, so expect a ton of entries today.

Force India, Brawn and Mclaren will surely do it.

RBR, STR and BMW will probably do it too.

Ferrari, Renault and Toyota probably won't do it. Renault and Toyota will pull out of the sport (there's a rumour that Briatore is buying Renault). And Ferrari will keep on crying, but I think that this do-or-die startegy will have to come to an end at some day, and I really hope that it ends up today. But I guess Montezemolo has already lost his brain.
Hames Junt
QUOTE (rodlamas @ May 29 2009, 14:22) *
According to what the Brazilian press said yesterday, all teams would stand by Ferrai until today's morning, so expect a ton of entries today.

Force India, Brawn and Mclaren will surely do it.

RBR, STR and BMW will probably do it too.

Ferrari, Renault and Toyota probably won't do it. Renault and Toyota will pull out of the sport (there's a rumour that Briatore is buying Renault). And Ferrari will keep on crying, but I think that this do-or-die startegy will have to come to an end at some day, and I really hope that it ends up today. But I guess Montezemolo has already lost his brain.


BBC Sport: FORMULA 1: All existing F1 teams, including Ferrari, submit conditional entries for 2010 season
brabham bt50
According to Will Buxton of GPWeek.com Timo Glock is number 1 to partner Lewis Hamilton at McLaren in 2010.

Will Buxton
"Glock has emerged as the favourite to replace the underperforming Heikki Kovalainen at McLaren in 2010.
With Toyota's continued involvement in F1 under some doubt, Timo Glock could be one of the most attractive free
agents of this summer ".

To my opinion Glock also deserves this seat more then Rosberg, Glock has made a far better impression
so far then Rosberg, who seems to fade away at Williams, whilst receiving critics from within his own team
recently.
lustigson
The list of entries, apart from the FOTA teams, is now like this:

  • AT&T WilliamsF1: Toyota engine contract in place, alternatively with Cosworth
  • Campos Meta 1: possibly running Dallara-designed car, likely with Cosworth engines
  • Prodrive: allegedly with Aston Martin-badged customer Mercedes engines
  • Team US F1: Cosworth engines confirmed
  • Lola Grand Prix: Cosworth engines confirmed
  • Litespeed GP: with Mike Gascoyne
  • March Racing Organisation: likely with Cosworth engines; perhaps a joint effort with N.Technology
  • Team Superfund: with Alex Wurz; Cosworth engines confirmed
  • Epsilon Euskadi: with Joan Villadelprat and Sergio Rinland; likely with Cosworth engines
  • Brabham: backed by Franz Hilmer of Formtech, and possibly Colin Kolles; acquired the former Super Aguri base; no engine partner announced, but likely Cosworth
  • N.Technology: likely with Cosworth engines; perhaps a joint effort with March
kaivo
QUOTE (lustigson @ Jun 4 2009, 13:38) *
The list of entries, apart from the FOTA teams, is now like this:

  • AT&T WilliamsF1: Toyota engine contract in place, alternatively with Cosworth
  • Campos Meta 1: possibly running Dallara-designed car, likely with Cosworth engines
  • Prodrive: allegedly with Aston Martin-badged customer Mercedes engines
  • Team US F1: Cosworth engines confirmed
  • Lola Grand Prix: Cosworth engines confirmed
  • Litespeed GP: with Mike Gascoyne
  • March Racing Organisation: likely with Cosworth engines; perhaps a joint effort with N.Technology
  • Team Superfund: with Alex Wurz; Cosworth engines confirmed
  • Epsilon Euskadi: with Joan Villadelprat and Sergio Rinland; likely with Cosworth engines
  • Brabham: backed by Franz Hilmer of Formtech, and possibly Colin Kolles; acquired the former Super Aguri base; no engine partner announced, but likely Cosworth
  • N.Technology: likely with Cosworth engines; perhaps a joint effort with March

So FIA dont need old teams biggrin.gif
lustigson
QUOTE (kaivo @ Jun 4 2009, 15:52) *
So FIA dont need old teams biggrin.gif

Should they all come to fruition: no. And it seems like the FIA don't want the old teams, either:

"I say to them: If you want to draw up your own rules, then you can organise your own championship."
metz
QUOTE (lustigson @ Jun 4 2009, 09:38) *
The list of entries, apart from the FOTA teams, is now like this:

  • AT&T WilliamsF1: Toyota engine contract in place, alternatively with Cosworth
  • Campos Meta 1: possibly running Dallara-designed car, likely with Cosworth engines
  • Prodrive: allegedly with Aston Martin-badged customer Mercedes engines
  • Team US F1: Cosworth engines confirmed
  • Lola Grand Prix: Cosworth engines confirmed
  • Litespeed GP: with Mike Gascoyne
  • March Racing Organisation: likely with Cosworth engines; perhaps a joint effort with N.Technology
  • Team Superfund: with Alex Wurz; Cosworth engines confirmed
  • Epsilon Euskadi: with Joan Villadelprat and Sergio Rinland; likely with Cosworth engines
  • Brabham: backed by Franz Hilmer of Formtech, and possibly Colin Kolles; acquired the former Super Aguri base; no engine partner announced, but likely Cosworth
  • N.Technology: likely with Cosworth engines; perhaps a joint effort with March

And you can add Force India... evil.gif
Motormedia
What is interesting is that Force India has a deal with McLaren-Mercedes for the next couple of years. It could of course be dependent on both teams taking part in the championship, but never the less, it could point to McLaren being next in line to jump ship.
Lazarus II
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ Jun 1 2009, 05:48) *
According to Will Buxton of GPWeek.com Timo Glock is number 1 to partner Lewis Hamilton at McLaren in 2010.

Will Buxton
"Glock has emerged as the favourite to replace the underperforming Heikki Kovalainen at McLaren in 2010.
With Toyota's continued involvement in F1 under some doubt, Timo Glock could be one of the most attractive free
agents of this summer ".

To my opinion Glock also deserves this seat more then Rosberg, Glock has made a far better impression
so far then Rosberg, who seems to fade away at Williams, whilst receiving critics from within his own team
recently.

Any driver receiving critisim from within Williams is par for the course. If he didn't it would be news-worthy.
lustigson
QUOTE (metz @ Jun 4 2009, 20:57) *
And you can add Force India... evil.gif

That indeed is now confirmed.
Rob
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 4 2009, 19:59) *
What is interesting is that Force India has a deal with McLaren-Mercedes for the next couple of years. It could of course be dependent on both teams taking part in the championship, but never the less, it could point to McLaren being next in line to jump ship.


They'll just provide them with the existing engines if they have to - they're homologated and aren't going to change.
lustigson
The list of confirmed lodged entries as of today:
  • WilliamsF1
  • Force India F1 Team
  • Campos Meta 1
  • Prodrive
  • Team US F1
  • Lola Grand Prix
  • Team Lotus (Litespeed GP)
  • March Racing Organisation
  • Team Superfund
  • Epsilon Euskadi
  • N.Technology
  • Brabham Grand Prix (Formtech)

Should a seperate FOTA-run Grand Prix Championship come to fruition, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the new teams would buy Scuderia Toro Rosso. Likely Team Superfund, which would eventually move the team from the former Minardi premises in Italy to nearby Austria. An other possibility might be N.Technology, which is an Italian entry.
Motormedia
QUOTE (Rob @ Jun 5 2009, 16:09) *
They'll just provide them with the existing engines if they have to - they're homologated and aren't going to change.


Some media claims that there are only five of the FOTA teams that have signed the "suicide pact", Renault, Toyota, Ferrari, BMW and Mercedes. If Red Bull/Toro Rosso and McLaren have not signed it must surely mean they are more on the fence than the others. However, without Mercedes, McLaren would face a problem (I would assume that Mercedes are pretty pissed with the mcLaren situation anyways. The team hasn't brought much but controversy and bad media for Mercedes lately. Add further insult to injury, this year Brawn has embarrased the German marks involvement in McLaren).
brabham bt50
This week's Autosport magazine says BMW are trying to sign Rosberg as Heidfeld's replacement for 2010. The article says Nick Heidfeld could stay, but only if Robert Kubica goes elsewhere for 2010.
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