Maybe he is going rallying with FIAT

He'd prefer a sabbatical over Toyota. I know I do.

I didn't say he'd take it, onlythat Toyota would throw money at him.

He'd make a huge difference to any of these 'not quite there' teams. Toyota have had their budget cut, though. But then Williams aren't rich either. Brawn, well who knows but he would be worth a lot to them, and he'd willingly sacrifice a lot of pay to go there surely.

6 tenths, allegedly...

I know. It was implied (in my post) that he would NOT take their money!

who says he will have a super license for 2010...

i dont believe for a second that he was not aware of his team's strategy in singapore... he probably even hatched the whole plan...

He could be behind your bed too... I heard he eats kids for breakfast

I have the feeling that he is going to leave Renault but don't know where to

I doubt they would entertain a one year deal.

I think it's more likely than not that he knew, too, but Max hasn't forgotten his old ally and lunch companion. Richard 'sources' Woods has said Fernando wasn't involved, that's that as far as any investigation is concerned.

alonso was/is involved in 2/2 MAJOR x-gates during the past two years... be prepared, ferrar! ...whenever alonso goes aboard ;)

Finnish-tv has talked to insider who says that its totally open, where Alonso and Räikkönen are going to drive next season. Even they dont know it for sure.

They should by now, at least Räikkönen should have been informed by now to give him proper opportunity to research alternatives need be.

That will lead to at least several suicide attempts in Spain and in this forum. Hope you are wrong.

Maybe the Scuderia don't want him to have options.

You seriously think Alonso wont drive in f1? Pls stop posting rubbish

This will never happen, but it's fun to speculate:

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Emirates Brawn-Mercedes Grand Prix
1 - Jenson Button
2 - Nico Rosberg

After securing the 2009 World Drivers' Championship, Jenson Button stays on at Brawn. He is joined by Nico Rosberg after Mercedes end their relationship with McLaren, unimpressed with the way their name has been sullied by the Stepney Affair and the Australian Incident. Brawn signs Dubai airliner Emirates as title sponsor, with internet giant Google also taking pride of place alongside them.

Livery: Mercedes silver, with Brawn yellow and black breaking it up. Emirates on the sidepods, Google on the nose and rear wing. Emirates have no issue with adopting blackand yellow for their logo, and even paint one of their flagship aircraft in the colours. Google logo appears in full colours, but only minimally.

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Red Bull Racing-Renault
3 - Sebastian Vettel
4 - Mark Webber

The Austrian energy drink consortium keeps their driver lineup from 2009, but decide to stick with Renault engines following Mercedes' decision to make Brawn their works team. Their success in stealing away the World Constructors' Championship in Abu Dhabi has drawn a number of secondary sponsors new for 2010.

Livery: The traditional Red Bull mauve and silver stays in place. Red Bull somehow convince their new sponsors to keep their logos in Red Bull colours.

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Scuderia Ferrari Santander
5 - Kimi Raikkonen
6 - Felipe Massa

It was widely exected that Ferrari would announce Fernando Alonso as one of their drivers for 2010, but everything came to naught after Alonso was implicated in the allegations of cheating levelled at Renault late in 2009. Santander are disappointed not to work with Alonso, but use Massa as a vehicle for expanding into the lucrative South American market, much as they did with Lewis Hamilton and Great Britain

Livery: Italian racing red with large Santander logos in a rather unique 'cut-off' fashion (logos intentionally larger than bodywork) and peppered with smaller Santander logos, a design that takes fans a while to get used to.

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Vodafone McLaren-Renault
7 - Lewis Hamilton
8 - Heikki Kovalainen

After a series of engine failures for Hamilton, McLaren's championship position comes under threat from Williams and Toyota. But Kovalainen rises to the occasion and secures his seat with podiums in Singapore and Brazil and a win in Japan. After Mercedes move to Brawn, McLaren turn their back on their previous partners and nominate to use the Renault engine after a gleeful Ferrari offer theirs at 'no cost'. McLaren take their Ethiad sponsorship instead, looking to start a rivalry with Emirates-backed Brawn.

Livery: Bruce McLaren's original bright orange, frequently used in testing new cars that segues smoothly into red Vodafone branding on the sidepods.

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Williams-Mercedes
9 - Rubens Barrichello
10 - Nico Hulkenberg

Williams do a do-se-do, trading Nico Rosberg for Rubens Barrichello and getting Mercedes engines in the deal. Barrichello is happy to swap as he becomes Sir Frank's lead driver, showing Nico Hulkenberg the ropes. Williams himself decides that the team's image has become too corporate and decides not to find a title sponsor to replace RBS (although the car still has sponsor branding). The emphasis on racing rather than finding a sponsor seems to rejuvenate the team, and Sir Frank is as bullish as ever.

Livery: The solid dark blue bordering on grey seen in the special "limted edition" testing liveries. Burgundy is also introduced for some obscure reason. Williams pick up Petronas as a sponsor after BMW's withdrawal.

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Panasonic Toyota
11 - Timo Glock
12 - Kamui Kobayashi

After trying and failing to snare Fernando Alonso after the Ferrari deal never came about, Toyota hastily sign Kamui Kobayashi for their second seat, atracting renewed interest from Japan and an influx of sponsor dollars. Glock comments that he has no idea what he is endorsing as it is all in Japanese, while pundits keep a close eye on Kobayashi who gets the drive after Kazuki Nakajima fails to make it even close to halfway in the last five races of 2009; it quickly becomes known that Kobayashi is operating on a race-by-race contract with Takuma Sato waiting to step up to the plate. Nakajima is bound for obscurity.

Livery: Toyota continue their red and white, but decide to inject green and blue into the mix. The end result is a few too many primary colours as there is less white to balance it all out, but it is not a deviation from their standard.

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Force India-Toyota
14 - Adrian Sutil
15 - Vitantonio Liuzzi

Force India move onto their third engine supplier in as many years, following confirmation that Vijay Mallya is greatly in debt to both Mercedes and Ferrari. Toyota reluctantly take them up after Mallya manages to find a new financier. Who they are and where the money is coming from remain unknown as no new logos have appeared on the car, but speculation remains that it is a consortium led by the Indian government who have issued him an ultimatum: prove Formula One is good for India by winning a race, or else the Indian Grand Prix is shelved. Karun Chandhok tests, but his reception is lukewarm.

Livery: More of the same, though the white, green and orange are in equal parts. There is less clutter from the sponsor decals this time; overall, it looks like a more polished, more professional approach.

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Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16 - Sebastien Buemi
17 - Jaime Alguersuari

With Red Bull boss Dietrich Mateschitz going frustrated with Toro Rosso and thorwing less and less money at them, Toro Rosso slides down to the tail end of the grid. Buemi and Alguersuari are frequently seen talking with other teams, but nothing eventuates and they are condemned to circling at the back, a clear second and a half off the pace. Eddie Jordan, Aguri Suzuki and Paul Stoddart all express interest in buying the team by the third round, and negotiations continue. FOTA plainly support Jordan and Aguri, prompting Paul Stoddart to launch legal action over ... something. No-one is entirely sure what it is about, but FOTA are plainly uncomfortable with him after his last legal action in Melbourne.

Livery: The scarlet charging bull takes pride of place once more. To help distinguish the cars from the Red Bulls, black replaces the mauve and more gold appears on the wings. The car switches from Red Bull to Red Bull Cola as title sponsor. Large Honda-esque numbers appear in red and gold on the otherwise blank rear wing, and a morbid in-joke arises that the umberswere made that way so that the leaders could tell who is holding them up.

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Telefonicia Campos-Cosworth
18 - Fernando Alonso
19 - Vitaly Petrov

Following Alonso's implication in the Singapore Incident, he struggles to find a race seat for 2010. Ultiamtely, he settles on Adrian Campos, the man who gave him his start in the World Series by Renault. Alonso later remarks that it is the best decision he has ever made, and announces a multi-year contract with a view to taking Campos to the top. With him is the other Campos collaborator, Vitaly Petrov, who brings with him an endless backing from Russian companies MegaFon and Lukoil.

Livery: The nosecone and sidepods are red with some yellow, and a black number on yellow background; the national racing colours of Spain. Lukoil appears on one sidepod, MegaFon on the other. The engine cowling is dark blue, as is the rear wing in keeping with Telefonicia's clours. The company has no objections to having their logo on a red background owing to the national heritage invovled. The end result looks like two cars that have been cut-and-pasted together.

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United States Formula One-Cosworth
20 - Pedro de la Rosa
21 - Jonathan Summerton

When Alonso joins Campos, Pedro de la Rosa is left out in the cold, but quickly snapped up by Ken Anderson and Peter Windsor. He is partnered with twenty-one year old superstar Summerton, who won his seat after a long winter testing session with Forula Two's Robert Wickens. Wickens is kept on as test driver to replace de la Rosa, who has announced he will only be racing for one year to help USF1 find their feet.

Livery: Red, white and blue, of course. The right sidepod is red, the left is blue and the monocoque is white, terminating in an arrowhead on the front wing (like one of the Le Mans cars this year, which was orange, black and white). Sponsors are strangely arranged; there is no apparent title sponsor. Instead, several are given prominence on various parts of the car.

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Virgin Manor-Cosworth
22 - Pastor Maldonado
23 - Adam Carroll

Virgin Manor becomes unoffically known as the Playboy Mansion, prompting Hugh Hefner to lend his magazine's name as a secondary sponsor. John Booth surprises all by signing two rookies, but the presence of Virgin has forged a relationship with Brawn GP, and it is believed Maldonado and Carroll come personally recommended by Ross Brawn himself. Maldonado proves to be a superstitious type and puts faith in his racing number as the car carrying the 22 has won the championship two years running.

Livery: Jet black, done to a matte finish. In some places, the paint is designed to lok like raw carbon fibre. Looks very stealthy. Virgin name appears on red background on sidepods. The nosecone has an "evolution" theme in silver similar to the one seen on Virgin Galactic flights running down its length; a series of silhouettes showing a top-down view of Formula One cars from the 1960s to 2010. As something of a novelty, the Virgin company sponsoring Manor changes every race. The car's first recorded victory is winning a major design award.

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Prodrive Sauber-Mercedes
24 - Robert Kubica
25 - Bruno Senna

Peter Sauber is saved at the last minute by Dave Richards, and the two join forces to form Prodrive Sauber Sports. Robert Kubica was on the verge of signing a Renault contract when Ricahrds convinced him to stay after Renault are found guilty of cheating at Singapore in 2008. Partnered with Bruno Senna, the team attracts a lot of attention, not least of all because of thei eye-catching livery.

Livery: Gulf. That is all. The cars even carry large black numbers on a white circle, a pure tribute to the old Le Mans liveries. The Prodrive Sauber is voted the fan favourite by a lanslide.

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Epsilon-Renault
26 - Nick Heidfeld
27 - Romain Grosjan

Renault is humiliated after being found guilty of cheating in 2008; Flavio Briatore is banned for life. Stripped of their 2009 points, they have the ignomity of running the numbers 26 and 27. Renault withdraw shortly thereafter and sell the team to Epsilon Euskadi. They do maintain a presence as an engine supplier, and Epsilon becomes the unofficial Renault works team. Needing money, they sign French insurance group Matmut where they beocme known as Team Warhol after the famous painter given their abstract livery. When Robert Kubica backs out of negotiations, Epsilon take Nick Heidfeld instead.

Livery: The Matmut 'patchwork'. It becomes notorious as the latest in a string of ugly liveries for the team, though popular opinion is that it works better than the R27, R28 and R29 designs.

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I seem to have made a very brightly-coloured grid ...

That would be really bad form from Ferrari, perhaps even illegal. In Räikkönen's shoes if I was dealt with like that, it would be gloves off and all shit right into public.

Apparently Williams are very close to doing a deal with Renault for an engine supply next season.

He has a water tight contract, I think he's the one who has all the options. If he's worried about about finding another drive, he can just takes the 50% or 80% payout Ferrari rumoured to be offering and sign for another team today.

Alonso unlikely to be @ Ferrari next year, says Monte.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78485

hahahahahah take that you all the Alonso To Ferrari 2010 rumor creator/believers!

yea yea hide your faces now.

ok so a quick review now of the seats.

Ferrari:(booked)
Massa/Fisi
Kimi

McLaren:
Hami
Heikki?/Rosberg?/Alonso??

Brawn:
Button
Kubica?/Barri?

Red Bull:
Webber
Vettle

Williams:
Nico Hulk.
Heikki??

...

What?? I thought it was the Spanish media, fans, and sponsors who called the shots at Ferrari.

So did the Spanish media, fans, and sponsors

Quick, someone ship a box of antidepressants to potmotr.

Or better still, box a ship of them

No, it's the Spanish media, fans and sponsors who think they call the shots at Ferrari.

german commentator during fp2 just said that, until now, toyota didn't take their option to extend glock's contract. that's why he's worried about his future in f1 and whether toyota stays. howett however says they signed the concorede agreement for 3 years and thus will stay in f1. furthermore it was said that toyota offered trulli a new contract with 80% less salary compared to what he currently gets.

The Montezemolo story is clearly fake, both otoelpiloto and FENIX had insider info that was 100% sure and verified, Alonso to Ferrari in 2010. Clearly Montezemolo doesn't know what he's talking about

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/formel1/0909/...ack-absage.html

Who is this di Montezemolo guy, anyway? Just because he has a vaguely Italian-sounding name, he seems to think he can speak on behalf of Ferrari. Honestly, the nerve of the man! What does he think he can get away with?

Montezemolo is Lobato's italian secretary. Everybody knows Lobato runs Ferrari. However I fear if Montezemolo really said those things to the media Lobato will not only fire Raikkonen, he will also fire Montezemolo too

If that were the case, all he'd have to say is "no comment".

And what was that you were saying about trolls? Something about you being one, wasn't it?

I never said I hated having alonso at ferrari. Its silly season thread and no where i said "believe me" or "for sure" its all speculation. Whereas with alonso to ferrari rumors people were saying "for sure" and "believe me" "100% done deal" and what not!.

Troll. Go back in your hole.

Aw so which butthurt spaniard are you? Mr 6 hour old account? FENIX, otoelpiloto or one of those Alonso will be announced in Valencia fools?
You people should stick to one forum account, multiaccount bullshit aint fun

Whats equally obvious is that some of Alonso's fans (not all) have buried their collective heads in a pile of sand so deep that only their collective arses are visible.

ok so isn't someone gonna come up with the reason that "due to Renault being investigated at the moment and the uncertainty of Alonso's involvement in that, hence Ferrari didn't announce him for 2010..."

And should that fail to convince people, the next reason will be that Ferrari are close to bankruptcy and cant afford fernando.

hey but never the less, next year again we'll have this alonso to ferrari 2011

In which case Santander will buy Ferrari and rename it to Scuderia Santander Alonso

Comments made by Whitmarsh to Finnish-tv, seems to indicate that Heikki Kovalainen will very likely sign a new contract with Mclaren.
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(and it seems also that Spanish media was unable to dictate who drives Ferrari 2010, I hope Heikki Kulta has some handkerchiefs to give for Spanish fellow workers)

Jigsaw are falling into place.

Ferrari
Kimi
Felipe:

Wonder if Räikkönen did at least partially save his bacon by stepping up to the plate big time with Massa gone? It does seem a distinct possibility that Alonso to Ferrari may be deferred by at least one year.

due to Renault being investigated at the moment and the uncertainty of Alonso's involvement in that, hence Ferrari didn't announce him for 2010

Announcement due at Singapore.

LOL So everything will stay the same