http://www.camposmeta.com/

The Ferraris situation is intresting.

Last week they had 5 drivers and this week they have zero driver.

~ kimi and williams were allegedly in talks about the 2nd williams seat in 2010 but negotiations failed at monza. amus thinks kimi will return to mclaren in 2010.

Kimi - mclaren
Alonso - ferrari
Rosberg - brawn
Kubica - williams

and

Briatore + Symonds - Guantanamo Bay

More like Singapore Sling

You'd have to assume Barrichello will stay at Brawn surely... meaning a Rosberg/Kubica line-up at Williams which would be a cracker even if P3-5 is the best race result possible for the druvers.

Nakajima and Kovalainen would then find their way to any of the new teams? (have to be better choice than the likes of de la Rosa surely?)

Nah.

Briatore -> Virgin Islands, just like before (OK, name change optional)

If Kimi goes to McLaren, then Heikki will land either in Renault if it's still around or Toyota. If Kimi stays in Ferrari for another year then Heikki will stay in McLaren also for a year. Nico will land in Brawn together with Jenson.

This is normally where Button announces that he had already signed with Renault some time ago....

What?

Apologies to Campos. I had done a quick search on google and came across a page that I thought was theirs saying that the site was still under construction, but, you know what, that does reassure me about Campos (unless it existed before). In this new technological age we live in, I do believe such things are a statement of intent, however small. That they are doing the things expected of a more established racing team.

+ 1

Reference to 2004.

Still don't get the connection to the previous comment. 2004 was a one off so not usual, and it was Williams not Renault.

I know all of that, but what does that have to do with the comment "This is normally where Button announces that he had already signed with Renault some time ago...."?

I guess this board's irony-meter depends heavily on the use of emoticons, so I will just add these:

It stops being funny when you start having to explain it.

It was 4 years ago.

Let it go, everyone seems to have. At one time it was perhaps funny but now the fact that people question what it means kinda says something ;-)!

Probably. I just didn't think it ironic or funny.

Button keen to stay at Brawn.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...919162418.shtml

gosh.. i can believe this thread is quiet on a day like this....

come on folks... so renault will be racing next year, alonso is not being punished... so what does this do for the silly season:

- ferrari can proceed with alonso and paying off kimi?
-kubica to renault, or kimi? or both?
-grosjean an all other FB managed drivers..? what happens to them?

today's news should set the wheel back in motion

I agree, this opens the door for Fred to Ferrari and Kube to Renault.

As for the Flavio managed drivers, well, they will find new managers and life will go on.

Or does it open the door for Fernando to Ferrari and then a re-examination of his involvement, to be able to get to Luca as well?

They also need new main sponsor cause ING leaves F1 and Renault soon.

Rosberg said he had contacts with both Mclaren and Brawn. Also he is negotiating with Williams but situation with engines supplier worrying him. He make a decision after couple of weeks.

Today when Renault seems stay in F1 Williams could get French engines and German could happily stay at Williams.

I don't think anything's changed following today's non-happenings. Alonso's still going to Ferrari, Räikkönen's still getting fired, Rosberg's still hogging all the good seats. And I'm still bored out of my mind.

Let's hope someone manages to sign something by Christmas Eve. That would be grand.

Nice post. I'm also suffering silly season fatigue. Hopefully the dominoes will start falling into place soon.

The great thing is that once one falls the rest do!

In recent years drivers have left it very late to sign deals.

before it was very often get the deals in quick and early!!

alonso's movement to ferrari to be announced tomorrow or thursday morning the latest

The deal isn't really a big deal anymore though is it? I think the potential Raikkonen move has now become much more significant/sensational than Freds on/off return from exile.

QUOTE (otoelpiloto @ Sep 22 2009, 23:57)
alonso's movement to ferrari to be announced tomorrow or thursday morning the latest




QUOTE (otoelpiloto @ Aug 26 2009, 17:03)
lobato, the guy alonso trusts in, wrote on his blog yesterday that he's willing to bet to those who dare deny the alonso-ferrari deal, the reason of this bet is due to a lot of comments on his blog claiming that he was making all the info up.
later, he also added a "pearl", he remarked two days in september as extremely relevant, the 5th and 6th, monday and tuesday before monza....
I am 100% convinced the deal is already done, besides, a forumer in alonso fan site confirmed yesterday that his brother has already seen a signed proof of the relation-to-be, this guy works for shell




QUOTE (otoelpiloto @ Sep 4 2009, 10:54)
next monday or tuesday the latest I'll remind you this quote

the same guy who's repeatedly claimed alonso's deal with ferrari was the first to announce in his blog the deal fisi-ferrari for monza,

whol laughs last laughs best.

lobato confirmed the deal to be announced either the 5th or the 6th, it's a done deal and he retracted on this info later that afternoon on his blog because of contractual issues to agree with kimi and I didn't mention such schedule changes here hence the reason you can laugh with these quotations,

we'll see tomorrow or thursday afternoon right?

History is not on your side.

I know, as I said before the fact against my statement is that I forgot to remark lobato had retracted about it,
and the info I'm giving in advance today is not thanks to lobato but to victor seara, spanish tv commentator and "secretly" the writer and updater of fernando's website pc and news

of course once again the info is not 100% accurate, but coming from his blog and assuring that alonso will be in red before he lands in singapur I don't have other choice but to believe him...

will see, anyway the title is silly season isn't it?

How close is Lobato to Alonso? I mean really close. Sure, he does interviews with the man a lot, but I can't help thinking that Lobato likes to portray himself as the person Alonso confides in. I don't really know what Alonso's sentiments about Lobato are, but Lobato keeps getting things wrong. While they might be good friends, I suspect Lobato may have embellished his image somewhat to try and get that little bit of extra credibility. After all, the Spanish media are ravenous at the best of times, so having that edge over your rivals by implying you have Alonso's ear and that you're his trusted friend and confidante is a good way to get one over the rest of the media. Journalism is a cut-thorat business, so it wouldn't be the first time a journalist has worked up an image for themselves that may not be true. Especially in tabloid journalism, and the Spanish tabloids - they don't have a word for "tabloids" in Spanish, but tabloids they are - are notoriously unreliable. I'd trust News of the World before I trusted anyhting coming out of Iberia.

I've always had a similar feeling. I think Alonso likes the guy but my guess is that Lobato feels closer to Alonso than Alonso to Lobato. Sometimes in the interviews it looks like a fan talking to his hero. (Which may be true as I think about it.)

EDIT: I've just looked at Marca's website. They do interviews where the readers have the opportunity to ask questions - and tomorrow (24th) the interview will be with Luca di Montezemolo.

Alonso to ferrari is so old news that who cares anymore... Kimi to McLaren is much hotter case

Especially as it includes both cases ; for I don't think Kimi to McLaren would happen without Fernando going to Ferrari

Don't cry wolf.

You are right about that, and still the Fred to Ferrari does not 100% quarantee that Kimi will be moving from there, but it is highly likely.

But I'm so booooored with all the hyper extra hype around the Alonso to Ferrari deal, where quaranteed launch date chaging every week year in year out ( thank's to our Spanish contributors here ), that Kimi to McLaren deal has felt like a wind of fresh air, altough the end result is the same for both drivers ;)

Renault to stay in F1.
However I do think it will be a while before the driver market starts moving again, as new management needs to be installed at Renault F1 first.

I'm sure that Cubica has already made a deal with Renault, and now that the team is secured, I think the anouncement will be out quite soon

Jeez it's quiet atm, I would have expected more leaks or news by now. I imagine behind the scenes there must be a lot going on, perhaps some unexpected switches?

Well, it could be that some drivers/managers/teams had expected Renault to be banned for 2010 (and perhaps longer). Those people will be hard at work trying to get one of the Renault seats, or picking up drivers that had otherwise gone to other teams, or whatever.

I reckon, though, that the road is now clear for R. Kubica to move to Renault, or move to Williams, since F. Briatore is no longer there to put pressure on Williams by witholding a Renault engine supply.

Well I hope Ghosn is seriously committed, because it's going to take a while and quite a few euros. If they can get Kubi they have to grab that chance. Prost? Well I'm not sure he's strong enough to sort out that team, it's sounding a bit honda-esque from the rumours.

Imagine if it is Alonso-Kubica at Renault next year (not too farfetched at all). Renault would have a seriously powerful driver lineup. I mean that's the type of lineup where you gotta produce a race winning car because you ain't going to get a much better shot at the WCC.

I think it's not farfetched, more quite probably (Kub-Alo in Renault), because on one side "Alonso in Ferrari" is still only a gossip, without any official or even half-official confirmation, Kub in Renault seems now very-very problable, maybe not confirmed too, but it can be found between the lines in Kubs different statements (his doubt after the "crashgate", or statement that he can be in a "nonwinning this year" car).
The only question is, what with Grosjaen? I tough they have pretty much hope in this guy.

Is this the first time Montezemolo actually acknowledges Ferrari's driver situation?