Got any extra venom to spit out, have you?

http://rizalhashim.blogspot.com/2009/10/lo...and-fairuz.html

It was apparently in the Malay Mail last month - probably where the BBC got it.

Hope you're right about that.

How can a fan hope that there will be two cars less? I just don't get that logic; I want to see as much cars as possible. In the past so many talented drivers have been neglected by F1 because there weren't enough cars. More cars also means more on track action, more overtaking oportunities and it gives young drivers mroe chance to grow year by year. It also gives more transfer rumours in the silly season; so that's something that would be beneficial to us because we like to discuss these things on forums.

He meant he hopes Anthony Davidson returns to the grid for Manor.

Joe Saward sees A.D. Davidson at Lotus.

I hope there will be more announcements soon - now that the season is over. Only about 10 out of 26/28 drivers for next year are fixed. Some manufacturers should be interested in knowing the drivers before the critical stages of car development.

Joe Saward also interpreted Campos' deal with the Murcia government as a sign the team was in trouble. He reported that Dallara had missed the deadline to finish the chassis, and so Campos were going to take whatever they had and finish it themselves with whatever money they could raise from local investors.

Pastor Maldonado will be confirmed in the next few days as the second Campos Meta driver. At least he will be a joy to watch on track, he's crazy

AMuS says Toyota will announce on Sunday (8th of November) that they will be out of F1 with imediate effect.

At Monaco it will be fantastic to see him and Senna just like the 2008 first race.

What's your source?

See, I'm not believing this one, because Adrian Campos himself has said they have a shortlist of four drivers: Bruno Senna, Vitaly Petrov, Pedro de la Rosa and Nelson Piquet Jnr.

Do you have a link for that? I can't find it anywhere on their website...or is it in the print edition?

My beloved Toyota is going to quit? How very, very sad.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...103090718.shtml

Great news for sauber!!

But if thats true then why push hard for drivers next year?

Try F1-Live.


We don't know that for certain. For all we know, Toyota may be looking to back out, sell the team and stay on as an engine supplier. That way the Toyota name stays in the sport, but they don't actually have to run the team. Or maybe they've already made up their minds that they want to stay in and have decided to announce it early.

So at the end Sauber will have a place on the grid, glad for them, and I'm sorry for Kobayashi I hope some team takes him at least as a third driver

Thanks, but there is no word about Toyota leaving F1 with immediate effect.

I since found the original article: http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-...en-1449542.html

It just says that Toyota will decide on the 8th of November about their future in F1. If they continue, Trulli and Kobayashi will likely be their driver line-up.

My God. All Toyota do is say that they're making an announcement soon, and everyone is convinced they're withdrawing, Sauber are returning and Kobayashi is out of a drive.

Are you people really that gullible!?

This is not correct.

AMuS says Toyota will announce on Sunday ( 8th of November 2009 ) their plans for F1 ( in 2010 ).

Another source, the Independent newspaper in Britain expects "bad news" from Toyota in their announcement.

These are the facts.

Even if Toyota quit it doesn't mean Sauber are back on the grid. They have signed the CA and have a valid place and team that can be sold. It was BMW's mistake to not do the same.

Just read that Sutil has resigned at FI ... his manager says that they have many options

Got a source?

Regarding Toyota, try this.

Soon! I read it at the video text of RTL

from where

Ah. See, I've been contributing to Wikipedia a lot and we like to get stuff in as soon as it breaks.

http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news/20...n_09110304.html

http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_c...&Itemid=219

Resigned or re-signed?

So Piquet back at F1 with Force India could well happen

Resigned...he´ll quit the team

Good question. I never picked up on the significane of a hyphen there until just now.


Bernie is pushing for Piquet to go to Campos, but some reports suggest that since Campos have Senna, they won't need Piquet because the team will be financially set.

Perhaps a straight swap: Kovalainen to Force India, Sutil to McLaren?

And what kind of announcement could it be, realistically? An "announcement about the future" definitely sounds like they're withdrawing, except for an outside chance that they could be announcing their drivers. But what drivers? They've annoyed both of their main guys to the point it's obvious neither will remain there. They've went like headless chickens after Raikkonen and Kubica and both told them to bugger off. All they have is Kobayashi and there's no solid rumours about anyone else to partner him.

Meanwhile we all know that:
- their team is a giant black hole of money, which has given them zero success
- every japanese manufacturer seems to be pulling out of every motorsport competition after the economic crysis
- it's been often rumoured that the reason they didn't renew with Trulli or Glock is because they couldn't guarantee there'd be a team next year. In fact I think Howett himself even hinted at it!
- they have confirmed that if they stay next year, they'd have a smaller budget

It's not looking good for the people at their factory, at all. But hey I'd rather have Sauber in the grid, even if owned by some soulless shady company, than Toyota.

Interesting.

I think Sutil would be a good fit at McLaren actually.

Fast, German...

He terminated his contract with the team after FI took the option, but he is likely to re-sign with Force India. See the link I posted above.

Don't just read the headlines ...

ooops RTL got me

Yeah, I was reading that story but my German stinks and it got a bit confusing. First he quit and then he was going to stay. So basically, they'll just re-negotiate the contract?

That makes much more sense. There isn't any better seat open for Sutil other than the about-to-be-extinct seat at Toyota, Raikkonen's place at Mac or Glock's place at Renault.

Interesting. Earlier he said team used option to continue their relationship.

It is quite likely that Sutil will be at FI next year. They are probably just negotiating salary and contract details. Whether Sutil is in a strong position or not depends to some extent on the likelihood of Sauber being in F1 next year (2 more free places in a potentially good car).

Sutil is more or less the team leader at Force India.

The McLaren partnership seems to be working very well.

Makes sense for him to stay I reckon.

He's getting less wild these days, a slow-maturing talent a bit like Nico Rosberg.

It could have been that Force India told him to resign from his current deal so that they could offer him a new one on better terms ...

Reckon Toyota may have an all japanese line up next year.

Kamui Kobayashi and ... who, exactly? Surely not Namajima ...

He's well in with Toyota though.

AMuS say "Likely Toyota driver pairing: Trulli and Kobayashi"

Maybe, but Toyota aren't completely stupid. Nakajima has the inenviable title of being the only driver to contest every race of the season without scoring a single point. They're said to be looking at Kovalainen as well, and while Heikki might have had a similarly-disappointing season, at least he's capable.