From James Allen's blog:

Interesting, but it's still anyone's guess. If Button wins this year, a Brawn lineup of a World Champion and a double World Champion would have some major pulling power.

AMuS did an article on Rosbergs options for next year.

McLaren; NR thinks they will be competitive but doesn't want to play second fiddle to Hamilton.

BMW; he questions if they will be competitive next year with next years rules being basicly the same as this year.

Brawn; he also questions if they can sustain their current pace, if they will have the resources, and he will not be no.2 to Button

Williams; have shown very good pace this year and if they keep up the development they could be a contender. He is compfortable here.


AMuS hypes him a lot. I'm not so sure that he will have these choices.

Just having started my annual silly season Excel sheet : are there any drivers confirmed besides Hamilton and Webber?

According to Wikipedia: yes.

According to "Auto Motor und Sport" Kubica has contract with BMW till the end of 2010.

Interesting. He was one of my question marks. Never would have thought he could stay at BMW.

Is Hulkenberg contracted to Williams for 2010?

And yet he's been rumoured to go to Renault?

Well, I would really like to see him in Renault. I think that renault would suit him because he needs the team to be focused on him... i wonder if he stops whinning and moaning after changing the team. I keep my fingers crossed

P.S. It's my first post here so big hello to everyone!

Something has to change in the chemistry between Robert and the team for sure. It's pretty much on cold feet right now. It seemed all bound for something great, but as it is now both of them don't get any step further. It might be a good idea to start over and go separate ways.

Let's see how this is gonna unfold after BMW announces they are out of F1 tomorrow.

Well, so much for BMW... Now we must find teams where craftsman Heidfeld and rough diamond Kubica would fit best...

Should Alonso leave Renault, Kubica might fit in well alongside Grosjean.

Heidfeld may find himself without a drive, or he could be picked up by one of the new teams.

How about Heidfeld to Brawn GP in place of Barichello? With his smooth style, great racecraft and amazing reliability and consistency he would fit them perfectly.

Kubica has a few options: Renault, Williams, maybe even McLaren and Ferrari. But he as well could end nowhere. It's a cruel sport.

Or they might stick around like Jenson and Rubens did when their manufacturer left.

But I agree Nick would be a perfect fit for Brawn, yes. Kubica I'd say would be between Renault and McLaren.

I would love to see Kubica at Mclaren, would be very interesting to see how he compares to Hamilton.

My wild guess is Kubica in McLaren and Heidfeld in Renault or Brawn GP.

Hmm McLaren would rather hire a German driver i suppose... Kubica is more probable to go to Renault or Brawn... Hell, I hope he just finds ANY drive for the next year

So we all get a do-over:

Red Bull: Vettel Webber

Brawn: Button Heidfeld

Ferrari: Alonso Massa

McLaren: Hamilton Rosberg

Williams: Kovalainen Hulkenberg

Renault: Kubica Grosjean

Toyota: Trulli Glock

ToroRosso Buemi Alguersuari

ForceIndia Fisichella Sutil

Campos: de la Rosa Gene

USF1: Wurz US passport holder X

Manor: Carroll Chilton


Remains of BMW?

Senna, Bourdais, Liuzzi, Piquet, Sato, Davidson ?

Never done this, but those are my guesses. I will follow current car numbers and it includes the engines for next year

Mclaren-Mercedes: Hamilton & Kovalainen
Ferrari: Massa & Alonso
Sauber-Renault: Heidfeld & di Grassi
Renault: Kubica & Grosjean
Toyota: Glock & Trulli
STR-Ferrari: Buemi & Alguersuari
RBR-Mercedes: Vettel & Webber
Williams-Toyota: Rosberg & Hulkenberg
Force India-Mercedes: Sutil & Senna
Brawn-Mercedes: Button & Raikkonen
USGPF1-Cosworth: Barrichello & Rahal
Campos-Cosworth: De la Rosa & ???
Manor-Cosworth: ??? & ???

I see Robert Kubica in Ferrari, Mclaren or Renault.
Robert can winner world champions.

http://www.corsaonline.com.ar/2009/07/30/N...-del-al-ain.php

Esteban Guerrieri is in talks with Manor to get into F1 next year. He raced for them in F3 in 2006. For the ones who can`t read spanish, the article I link above says that guerrieri, who entered Super League Formula in round 2 at Zolder and is this weekend at Donington for third round, met John Booth on tuesday. Manor's chief told him that they have the budget (one of their main sponsors is Virgin so I guess that company is leaving Brawn for next season?), that the car will be finished for December and they will start testing on mid-January. Besides, Booth said that they still hasn't taken any decision on the drivers they will have. Guerrieri and Booth have a very nice relationship: the Argetinean says that he helped him a lot to continue racing in Europe back then. Apart from that, in a recent meeting, Carlos Reutemann told the Argentinean that he will help him as much as he can to get into F1. Reutemann has a lot of contacts in F1, specially with Bernie Ecclestone; and Guerrieri has been frequently compared to him because of his ability as a car developer.

Hi guys!
Fist post here but have been reading a year or so...
The return of MS made me start posting. Never been a fan but hugely respect his skills! Due to this, GREAT seeing him again in F1.

So what is the chance getting MS to compete 2010?

And if FIA decide having 3 cars on the grid, the chance getting bigger.


btw, with MS back on the grid, Jenson taking the title or not seems not to be a relevant question anymore. I LIKE TO SEE MS BATTELING WITH ALONSO/LEWIS/KIMI

My redo:

Red Bull-Mercedes: Vettel Webber

Brawn-Mercedes: Button Senna

Ferrari: Alonso Massa

McLaren-Mercedes: Hamilton Rosberg

Williams-Toyota: Trulli Hulkenberg

Renault: Kubica Grosjean

Sauber-Renault: Heidfeld & di Grassi

Toyota: Glock Nakajima

ToroRosso-Ferrari: Buemi Alguersuari

ForceIndia-Mercedes: Sutil Liuzzi

Campos-Cosworth: de la Rosa Trulli

USF1-Cosworth: Wurz Bourdais

Manor-Cosworth: Carroll Chilton

sounds good, Silver Surfer. except for everything around trulli. i dont think he'll leave toyota, but if he does, replacing him with naka would be totally stupid imho, and trulli in campos? mhm i'd rather think they go for some rookie when they already got de la rosa.

Why do people keep adding Bourdais back into F1? That's ridiculous IMO. In the interest of full disclosure, I also thought the idea of Schumi back in F1 was ridiculous.

I'm a big fan of Bourdais but his stay in F1 was so disappointing.

Oopps! I left Trulli in two spots! Let's try again:

Red Bull-Mercedes: Vettel Webber

Brawn-Mercedes: Button Senna

Ferrari: Alonso Massa

McLaren-Mercedes: Hamilton Rosberg

Williams-Toyota: Trulli Hulkenberg

Renault: Kubica Grosjean

Sauber-Renault: Heidfeld & di Grassi

Toyota: Glock Nakajima

ToroRosso-Ferrari: Buemi Alguersuari

ForceIndia-Mercedes: Sutil Liuzzi

Campos-Cosworth: de la Rosa Piquet Jr

USF1-Cosworth: Wurz Bourdais

Manor-Cosworth: Carroll Chilton


I agree that Bourdais was disappointing, but USF1 needs the "American" connection and Bourdais has that following here in the US. He also knows the tracks already and he has driven a 2009 spec F1 car, unlike Wurz. So his feedback could be beneficial for a start up constructor as he has a baseline in a crap Torro Rosso to compare with. Piquet jr may get the Campos drive because of sponsorship and his last name, not because he has shown anything over the past 18 months to prove he is worthy of a F1 drive.

Red Bull-Mercedes: Vettel Webber

Brawn-Mercedes: Button Schumacher

Ferrari: Alonso Kubica

McLaren-Mercedes: Hamilton Rosberg

Williams-Toyota: Heidfeld Hulkenberg

Renault: Senna Grosjean

Sauber-Renault: Kovaleinen Barrichello

Toyota: Trulli Glock

ToroRosso-Ferrari: Buemi Liuzzi

ForceIndia-Mercedes: Sutil Fisichella

Campos-Cosworth: de la Rosa Alguersuari

USF1-Cosworth: Villeneuve Bourdais

Manor-Cosworth: Davidson di Grassi

I was also tempted to leave out Massa for next year, but it looks like he will be fine to race in 2010 so far. Schumacher in a Brawn seems a bit of a reach as does Villenue? But stranger things have happened!!

Redo (Although I have six Germans at the moment, and can't see the grid having that many come 2010)

Ferrari
Fernando Alonso SPA
Felipe Massa BRA

McLaren-Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton GBR
Robert Kubica POL

Renault
Romain Grosjean FRA
Nicolas Hülkenberg GER

Toyota
Jarno Trulli ITA
Timo Glock GER

Toro Rosso-
Sébastien Buemi SWI
Jaime Alguersuari SPA

Red Bull-
Mark Webber AUS
Sebastian Vettel GER

Williams-Toyota
Nico Rosberg GER
Kazuki Nakajima JAP

Force India-Mercedes
Adrian Sutil GER
Heikki Kovalainen FIN

Brawn-Mercedes
Jenson Button GBR
Nick Heidfeld GER

Team US F1-Cosworth
Marco Andretti USA
Scott Speed USA

Campos Meta Team-Cosworth
Pedro de la Rosa SPA
Giorgio Pantano ITA

Manor Grand Prix-Cosworth
Anthony Davidson GBR
Paul di Resta GBR

BMW's Replacement (Piquet GP?)
Rubens Barrichello BRA
Nelson Piquet, Jr.BRA

..ehmmm

I'm curious as to why people think Nick Heidfeld might find himself at Brawn next season: he's useless. Whether he was at Prost, Jordan or BMW, he was never anything more than a would-be.

Will be interested to see where Kuby goes. Right now, I have absolutely no idea.

I wonder if Kimi could possibly end up back at McLaren, now that Ron has gone?

My guess would be that if there's an opening at Brawn, he could find himself there. He's quick (when he has a good car), he has experience under his belt unlike someone such as Senna and he's nowhere near as expensive as some of the others like Alonso and Raikkonen.

I wonder why so many see Kimi out in 2010. He clearly overcame his Q issues this year, his race pace is there if he is allowed to race in clear air, he deserves that seat as much as Felipe.
But most importantly, he himself says he stays in Ferrari in 2010 before the decision will be made upon his future.

I disagree about his previous exploits.

I agree that there would be no reason for Brawn to pursue him.

Grosjean and Kubica at Renault

Heidfeld has Mercedes connections but they're probably dead now so probably Rosbot in the Mclaren. If Williams still need Japanese drivers to keep the Toyota engine then unless they have somebody else up their sleeve I wouldn't be surprised if they got Heidfeld back there as I know they rated him highly when he was driving.

Kimi's getting ditched: had him at BMW but if not I can see him disappearing for good - shame. Massa in the other Ferrari and the 3 - 4? - new teams picking up you Liuzzis, Davidsons, etc.

Do I win 5 pounds?

I'd love to see that happen. Nothing better than watch good ole Kimi driving the wheels off the MP4-25

McLaren
Hamilton
Rosberg

Renault
Alonso (or Heidfeld if Alonso to Ferrari, or Grosjean if he proves to be a star driver in a F1 car by the current season)
Kubica

Now that would be "explosive", especially at Renault with Alonso/Kubica!

Heidfeld (who is very good! unlike the anti-Heidfeld bashers would suggest) would be a logical appointment at Brawn or Williams. Lower ranked teams like Toro Rosso and Force India, and the new teams, would all certainly make offers to Heidfeld also.

Heidfeld is consistent, but he's not race-winning material. How is he the logical choice for teams like Brawn, who need big names and big talent to secure sponsorship? Show me one flash of brilliance in all his years, just one that makes him a more convincing candidate than the likes of Robert Kubica or Fernando Alonso or Bruno Senna. Right now, all Heidfeld is good for is joining someone like Manor Grand Prix who will need an experienced driver to anchor themselves around. If Barrichello leaves, Ross Brawn might make an unconventional choice, but one that will ultimately make sense. Right now, Nick Heidfeld has the unenviable title of being the man with the most points without a win in the history of the sport: in one hundred and sixty starts and with two hundred and six points to his name, he has never graced the top step of the podium. He also happens to be the third-ranked driver in terms of the number of starts without a win, coming in behind Martin Brundle and Andrea de Cesaris. "Almost" pretty much defines his career, so how does he have the goods that Brawn are looking for. They want someone competitive, not someone to simply fill up a racing seat. They'd be better of keeping Barrichello - who isn't bad, despite his slump in form this season - than investing in Heidfeld.

Uh, this has mostly been discussing the Formula One silly season. Yours is the first post I've seen discussing MotoGP ...

Okay, if Heidfeld is useless, that means that all the teammates he had at Prost, Jordan, or Williams or BMW were useless as well... because he matched all of them, if not beat them...

So Alesi... useless. Raikkonen... useless... Felipe Massa... useless... Heinz Harald Frentzen...useless... Timo Glock, Pantano, Mark Webber, Jacques Villeneuve...

I mean: I respect your opinion. But beware of the consequences of that opinion.



EDIT: You have nuanced your opinion already. So this reaction is a bit... not neccessary.

I know it is unlikely but you have to think Heidfeld is the perfect fit at McLaren to support Hamilton.

SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO
- Massa
- Alonso
RENAULT F1 TEAM
- Grosjean
- Kubica
PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING
- Trulli
- Nakajima
VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES
- Hamilton
- Glock
AT&T WILLIAMS TOYOTA
- Hulkenburg
- Heidfeld
BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM MERCEDES
- Button
- Rosberg
RED BULL RACING RENAULT/BMW/FERRARI
- Vettel
- Webber
SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO RENAULT/BMW/FERARRI
- Buemi
- Alguersuari
FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM MERCEDES
- Sutil
- Fisico
CAMPOS META TEAM COSWORTH
- De la Rosa
- Petrov
MANOR GRAND PRIX COSWORTH
- Davidson
- Paffett
TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
- Speed
- Bourdais

And where is your 13th team ?

The only way I see Kimi in a F1 car in 2010 is if Massa cannot race again. I think he wants to Rally, and is bored of F1. Ferrari are buying him out of his contract it seems to get Alonso in the car. But if Massa cannot go in 2010, then perhaps Kimi will race again? I hope so! With Alonso leaving Renault, Kubica would be a good fit as the number 1 driver, with Grosjean backing him up.

My predictions:

FERRARI
Felipe Massa
Fernando Alonso

MCLAREN
Lewis Hamilton
Heikki Kovalainen

BRAWN
Jenson Button
Bruno Senna

RENAULT
Romain Grosjean
Robert Kubica

RED BULL
Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber

TORO ROSSO
Sebastian Buemi
Jaime Alguersuari

WILLIAMS
Nico Rosberg
Nicolas Hulkenberg

TOYOTA
Jarno Trulli
Timo Glock

FORCE INDIA
Giancarlo Fisichella
Adrian Sutil

USF1
Marco Andretti
Scott Speed

CAMPOS
Pedro de la Rosa
Javier Villa

MANOR
Anthony Davidson
Nick Heidfeld

EX-BMW [PRODRIVE]
Alex Wurz
Tonio Liuzzi

Alonso definitely holds the keys to the driver market I think.

What, MS and KR both retired?

Impressed that you all seem to think there will be a Renault and Toyota Team next year