I've always been a big fan of upcoming llivery mockups.

Here's 2010 Lotus by DeviantArt's Hanmer.



Follow this link to see 2010 Ferrari by Lucant

Would be nice if this is how the Lotus would look like...

Craig Pollock?

Sounds like Renault might be strung up by the Pollocks.

What about that Luxemburg investment company or whatever it is that is supposed to be fighting with Prodrive to buy Renault? Apparently Bernie feels more inclined for them (I can recall reading about him saying that he is sure we will see a team named Renault next year and the year after that, etc., and this people from Luxemburg is supposed to keep the name and of course Prodrive isn't), and you know if Bernie wants it... of course I will prefer the Prodrive/Aston Martin option, but it is not about what I or we would like...
Nice to know Álvaro has so much chances.
I've read in the Spanish press that there still could come a surprise from De La Rosa. Now,also according to the Spanish press, Lucas Di Grassi would have had a priority pre-contract in Guerrieri style, but, always according to them (I think I read it on Racingpasión), that priority expired last friday ( if I remember well) and Lucas couldn't get the money asked (also in Guerrieri style), so now the seat could go to the best bidder, and the Spaniards say the Andy Soucek already has enough money. I don't know how reliable Racingpasión is anyway.

He has said so many things...

Lucas di Grassi is waiting to see what happens to Renault before he commits. http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...207135918.shtml

Lucas di Grassi is waiting to see what happens to Renault before he commits.
and unofficially...
Ross Brown is waiting to see what happens to Renault before he select the 2nd driver.
Nick Heidfeld is waiting to see what happens to Renault before he sign to a team.
Peter Sauber is waiting to see what happens to Renault before he sign or sign not Nick Heidfeld.

When will the Renault situation be clear?

There's a board meeting this week.
Maybe we'll get something new.

Woah! You really must know something abot Kimi´s private life I don´t..

Yesterday: Bernie - With now 4 potential buyers of Renault it make take till into the new year before we know Renault's future.

Today: Haug - Change of plans, we are waitin till into next year potentially before we choose the second Merc driver.

It's not Schumacher they are waiting on, but I'll tell you who they are waiting on...

His name rhymes with 'Kubica'.

This driver is being discussed at the new Sauber team

Universe balancing itself out as usual.. We lose a top-3 driver next year (Kimi), and we get one back straight away (Ralf).

That´s no joke

So what about the board meeting this week mentioned before?



I don't know any driver with a name rhyming to 'Kubica'

If we can't get Michael Schumacher, get the next best thing: Ralf Schumacher!

I'll start believing Ralf is a possibility when I see something about it.

Unfortunatly all in german: Page

that articel is based on speculations, from november the 18th

It seems unlikely, I think impossible.

Yeah, I also think that, but in my opinion he would be a better possibility than de la Rosa, Klien or Petrov ...

Sauber will have Giancarlo Fisichella and can keep a door open for Nick Heidfeld if Robert Kubica goes to Renault. Everyone had to wait for Alonso, then Raikkonen and now Kubica.

No, they have already said they will have an experienced driver and a new driver. So they can't have Fisi and Nick.

Yes they can. Nick would be the experienced one and Fisi the new (for 2010) one. Just happens that he is also experienced.

They mean a rookie, like Petrov. http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...207141850.shtml

Ralf probably wrote it himself under a pen name

I'd rather take Ralf than Klien, de la Rosa, Trulli, Piquet, Bourdais, Grosjean or Fisichella.

Because of his fast surname?

Those cobblers are fast aren't they.

Who cares why?

I hope r4mses will take Ralf, and then F1 and us won't have to endure that rude turd again..

Because he proved to be fast(er than them) and won more GPs than all of them combined.

Have to agree Ralf had impressive results.. (just checked and he got 27 podiums, more than I imagined!)

But he's such an a-hole... I wouldn't consider him for a team like Sauber which is in reconstruction or something.. he would demotivate everyone in a 300km radius..

Fisi beated him at Jordan back in 1997

Unlike Ralf, Fisichella spent two years in championship winning cars. During that time he won 2 races, another 6 podiums, 2 poles and one fastest lap... That's 2/3 wins, 8/19 podiums, 2/4 poles, 1/2 fastest laps during his time at Renault.

Ralf never drove a championship winning car but won 6 races, achieve 27 podiums overall, got 6 poles and 8 fastest laps.

I know it's just stastics... but still...

/edit: to sum it up, imo Ralf is not as bad as his reputation.
Well, he's still #2 when it comes to success (GP wins) of German F1 drivers... #1 being Micheal ofc. Dunno, some might consider this a shame for Germany ;)

Germany does not have a very strong record in F1 if you discard MS (only four? GP winners, only one WDC). There is, however, some hope that Vettel will be more successful than Ralf.

Michael Schumacher, Ralf Schumacher, Sebastian Vettel, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Wolfgang von Trips and Jochen Mass, that's 6 from the top of my head.

Plus European Grand Prix Championship, Rudolf Carricola, Bernd Rosemeyer, Hermann Lang, Manfred von Brauchitsch and Hans Stuck. (There was also Hermann Paul Muller)

All from the top of my head, so there could be more.

Germany has only had 2 Motorcycle Grand Prix winners aswell.

Oh Ralf clearly had talent. It's just that he couldn't be arsed to use it most of the time, that's what was so annoying about him

The list is actually complete (just looked it up): There are 6 German F1 grand prix winners (shared 5th place among all nations) with 108 wins (2nd place).

Ralf to Sauber - only if they can not get Nick or Fisico.

This is what TS writes: Kovalaisen F1-uran jatkuminen on pitkälti kiinni Sauberista. Kun Kubica jää Renaultille, Nick Heidfeld on vahvin ehdokas Mercedekselle Nico Rosbergin tallikaveriksi. Peter Sauber itse taas ei ole kiinnostunut Giancarlo Fisichellan palkkaamisesta takaisin, vaikka Ferrari häntä tarjoaakin. Toisen paikan Sauberilla vie joku rahaa tuova kuljettaja – Bertrand Baguette, Petrov tai Kobayashi.

Whether Kovalainen's F1-career will continue, is up to Sauber. As Kubica will remain at Renault, Nick Heidfeld is the strongest candidate to team up with Nico Rosberg at Mercedes. Peter Sauber, on the other hand, is not keen on re-signing Giancarlo Fisichella, despite being offered by Ferrari. The other Sauber seat will be filled by some driver bringing money - Bertrand Baguette, Petrov or Kobayashi.

Interesting, if P.Sauber wouldn't hire Fisi. And one wonders, naturally, how many seats Petrov & Kobayashi will occupy in the end...

I am hoping for Bertrand Baguette. Can´t wait to see the commentators go... "....and then he is overtaken by Baguette...."

"And the Virgin runs into the business end of the Breadstick."

Bon appetit.

"There is Button passing Virgin's Baguette."

The prospect of having Petrov or Baguette as team mates is probably another argument for Heidfeld to prefer Mercedes. You cannot really shine against those unestablished drivers. You can beat them fair and square as everyone expects and still earn no reputation.

TS is a finnish paper...i think that when PS talk about an experienced driver it means Fisi, Trulli or Heidfeld. If Nick goes to Merc i think that Fisi will be at Sauber, the strong Ferrari connection (engine and powertrain) will help Fisi to grab the seat and PS always like Fisi. The other seat for a rookie could see Petrov or Kobayashi, we have to wait the Renault choice about the second seat...
About Kova...i really don't know...probably the best option could be Renault or a new team.

8 podiums, not 6. And lost around another 8 due to car failures and teamorders. Fisi proved in 97, and more recently in the FI shootout, he is better than Ralf.

Insane silly season.. probably a few weeks away from being sorted too.

And if you go further back, you have Rudolf Caracciola, Bernd Rosemeyer, Christian Lautenschlager, Herman Lang, etc.

A ridiculously talented motorsport nation.