because he was the most consitant fastest driver given his equipment.. At some point he was leading a championsip when there were 4 other drivers (Ferrari/Mclaren) with better cars..
He cosntantly outqualified and finished in front of at least one Ferrari one Mclaren in many races..

Not at all. Every race counts, and he had an outstanding early season.

(Lurking several years before 1st post.. wheee)

BINGO- --a dominant car made for button......until it became only competitive.....then he became medicore....

besides they ought do away with the wdc, as the driver's performance is becoming far less relevant......and gets far more credit than it deserves

I am uncertain if this is not a simplistic point of view, but it raises a question in my mind how much difference Brawn equipment made (DDD) before others caught up despite all handicaps due to limitations in testing. I do realize that equipment can make on scoreboard, but here we have a guy with a competitive machine, and results are just embarassing. Yes, it is a legitimate question what kind of F1 WDC is this series through stupid regulations producing? I am in doubt that JB should have any WDC on his CV. Maybe I won the season 2009, but not the WDC title?

You make my brain hurt so many things wrong with what you just said.

I don't think Button's possible WDC is anymore tainted than the verdict to allow the DDD by the FiA this year. Either that verdict taints the entire season or nothing does. Simple really.

Surely the Championship will be decided in favour of Rubens as he is beating Jenson so comprehensively in the second half of the season?

Ross will never let that happen...unless vettel becomes such a threat that they can no longer coddle jenson....

Although Barri is faster tha Button, right now, no, it is not tainted.
Button will be WDC despite not being faster tha Rubens, Lewis, Seb Vettel and Kimi.

Rubens couldn't use the rear callots due to brake problems until Silverstone, loosing 10 points in aero pressure.
After trading to Button's brake solution, Rubens became the fastest Brawn driver.
But... who cares.

For me, taint = cheat.

When Brawn came out of the box so strongly, I thought it was fantastic that Jenson was finally going to get the reward for years of loyal hard graft at BAR/Honda with little to show for it.

The fact that he's clearly upsetting a lot of fairweather "fans" at the same time is just the perfect icing on the cake.

This is what motor racing is like sometimes guys. You should learn to enjoy it.

This is just a repeat of the "Would Button be a Worthy Champion?" thread.

Right now, this championship is looking like the Williams [Mansell + Piquet] vs. McLaren [Prost].
Guess who won the championship

I think its just a matter of RB finally finding his way with the car and driving slightly better than JB at this point of the CC. Sadly for RB, that reaction seems to have come a bit too late, when the other teams managed to catch-up and surpass his team.



RB only lost to Jenson in Singapore because his car stalled (again the anti-stall thing). Otherwise Jenson would again be beaten fair and square.

Button pumped in impressive laptimes during RB's pitstop and would have been in front of RB, but because JB was having brake issues, his team-mate would have overtaken him.

I thought we had already established that he is not a worthy champion and that it was all the car and team orders in Buttons favour because he is English in an English team and the British press would be outraged if it were any other way? So I'm confused about why it is now merely 'tainted'

RB was only in front after the first stint because of the safety car, but for that he would have finished even furthur back from JB.

Yeah more crying in the radio to his engineers about the car

Shush, keep quite. Another couple threads and it will just be slightly smudged.

Tainted in he has done nothing wrong and had nothing to do with it at all, or tainted as in why not hold Massa responsible for the points lost at Sepang, Silverstone or Fuji with his stubborn and self-destructive crashing into Hamilton (who was due a penalty anyhow)?

There's a diference between having an opinion and being a troll thick as a brick...

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Considering he will clinch it, it won't be tainted, his early form was impressive enough and he did blow Barrichello away.
It just won't be remarkable.

Maybe it'll go down as a blip in between McLaren and Ferrari dominance.

To be honest I don't get all this talk, Jenson won the first six of seven races in a dominating fashion. As well as that Jenson has always finished in the points when he has finished and has nott taken any silly risks. Rubens did perform much better than Jenson at Silverstone and Hungaroring. At Valencia I feel Vettel pushed Jenson out of the way at the start and was held up because it was a street circuit, but other than that Rubens hasn't been that much better than Jenson, compared to how good Jenson was over Rubens at the start. Jenson deserves the title!

No but put it this way, Button is not getting a raise in salary.

There have been 14 races so far this year. Jenson has finished 10 of those in front of Rubens. He has more points than anyone else. Of course it isn't tainted.

Jenson does look like Trulli though. Maybe Trulli in that car could have won those 6 racesh, and I suspect many others. It doesn't matter, WDC is awarded to the one with most points in the end. I wouldn't say tainted because of his performance, maybe the DD interpretation issue is not an ideal situation, specially with no testing, but it's not his fault anyway.

But he does not look in any way better than he was before. Not worst, not better, same Button. I can't see anything extra coming from him. With Trulli I would expect at least some brilliant qualys, with Button, not even that.

So I wouldn't say it's tainted, but I don't think this WDC will raise Button status either. Let's see how he is going to defend his title next year (if he wins it), if that will raise his game then, or if we're going to see more of the same.

Tainted?

Give us a break. I really don't know where these threads come from. Is this a suggestion that there's another driver more deserving of this championship? If so, "said other driver" best get his arse in gear - races are running out.

Poor Button. he should have won his races more evenly across the season and avoided all of this tripe...

Button's performance is now becoming embarrassing. It has me scratching my head actually...how can such a mediocre driver be about to be crowned WDC? This morning's coverage of qualifying really annoyed me...all the talk was about Button and hardly any was about the guys who actually performed well...Vettel, Hamilton, etc. It's "OH congratulations Jenson, you're 7th on the grid" (behind your team-mate...yet again).

Unfortunately this is going to be a year where, because one team had a head-start over all the others at the start of the season, we will have a sub-standard WDC. It's not Button's fault, but it's the way it is. No I don't think the Championship will be tainted, but people will look back and wonder how on earth it happened...a bit like Wimbledon winning the FA Cup or Aston Villa winning the Champions League.

Fortunately, with no big rule changes next year, it is likely that the WDC will once again be about the best drivers fighting it out, rather than a journeyman and a has-been who lucked into a fantastic car.

And would these 'best' drivers be fighting it out for the WDC next year in mediocre cars? Or fantastic ones?

'Everyone' 'knows' that it's down to the 'best' cars but only where the 'best' is a Ferrari or McLaren. Or a Lotus. Otherwise the 'best' cars are just not good enough.

I wouldn't use the word tainted but mediocre is the correct term. He had massive advantage at the beginning with no driver except Rubens who was struggling with his brakes challenging him due to the unfair advantage of the diffuser. Other teams have made gains now and he is nowhere because he is not the most talented driver out there. He will get hi WDC, but to me there is no excitement. He should at least be equaling or beating Rubens, but he is nowhere just moaning and moaning that the car is not to his liking. The faster this year is finished the better.

was rubens way faster in last part of the season ?

No.

If it was the other way round, and jenson started off slow then got the better of Barry at the 2nd half, should it be any different?

People need to stop looking at only the latest results. Barry was worse than Button at the beginning, but that means nothing now?

This championship is a war not a battle. Everything counts, and in the end, should Button have more points, he deserves the win.

Look at it this way, should we have adopted the Medal System Bernie wanted, Button would have already been champion.

Ok, lets forget that Rubens started 5 places back only because of a gearbox change AND stalled on the pit-stop.

Face it, RB had Jenson in the pocket in the last 4 or 5 races. The only reason he is not leading the WDC is because of the many anti-stall " "failures". At Spa, for instance, RB was dead-last after the 1st corner, when he should be fighting the leaders. Jenson is a lucky SOB that nothing of this has happened to his car.

JB will probably win this WDC. And no, it will not be " tainted", but the fact of the matter is that the 2nd half of the season belonged to RB. Jenson is being beaten fair and square by old-timer Rubens.

So your saying that Barrichello would be leading if it weren't for all the mechanical failures?

The thing is; if Rubens is getting substantially more mechanical failures than Jenson, it can't be completely down to luck. There must be something in the way Rubens drives the car, the way that he performs his starts that damages car components. Driving styles differ; and it seems Rubens' is more harsh on the car.

Rubens deserves it because he is Brazilian.

Why would it be tainted? Had he won the title with an illegal car, or something like that, then yes, as that's how I'd interpret 'tainted' in this instance. Him seemingly limping over the line doesn't make it a 'tainted' championship.

If Button wins just 1 of these last 3 races, I can't help but feel all these questions will go away.

my bet is zero.....

Tainted Fred's "WIN" only.

+1 he'll limp home but credit to him he made the most of his early Advantage.

If Button is champion no one will give a shit about the circumstances.

He'll still be champion.

I'd like Barrichello to win it due to the way the team let him down in several races (an adjusted points score would be interesting) and outperforming Jenson so much in the second half of the year.

Jenson has been less than inspiring now his car isn't faster than everyone elses.

Not way faster. But he did get better result then MS did at the end of the season. Much like RB is compared to JB now.

Fair comment, but, Jenson got the job done better than Rubens when they both had a car that was faster than the others.

Any talk of favouritism is just BS.

Simple answer is no. When Brawn had the better car Jenson made the best use of it. He won 6/7 races, the title would be over under Bernies stupid medal idea which was so feted earlier this season. When they didn't have the best car he picked up small points like a metranome and his challengers have failed to capitalize. What more do you want? Though i would love Vettel to pinch it Barrichello can go and moan elsewhere thank you..

As for Massa's and Arrow's ( I assume, but hey its normal from someone that has been banned more times than beastiality) idiotic hint that Crashgate gave Hamilton the title, well Hamilton would likely have won Singers without it, assuming of course that the keystone cops infiltrated the Ferrari pitcrew as they did. Its an inane claim by Felipe and very ill judged. Alonso's win is tainted of course but thats by the by. Had Singapore been a different result then all the subsequent GP's would have been different anyway no one knows what would have happened.... Its the same as all the Schuie fans claiming 99 was tainted cos Schuie broke his leg, Sorry but we don't know what would have happened had Schuie been there, its all assumption reality is fact.

I actually think this year should be eye opening to a few people, probably 75% of the grid has the ability to be champion given the car Some fantastic drivers have never had the car to do it. while some 'journeymen' have, thinking Hill (all of them), Villenueve, Rosberg, Piquet (a lot) Mansell, Hunt, Scheckter, Hulme, Surtees, Hawthorn, Farina, Hakkinen to a degree what have they all got in common? They rose to the occasion and used that advantage to win a championship. If the percieved 'best' driver won every year then Fangio would have won the first 9 (ok I know he missed one through injury) Moss would have won a few til he got injured, Clark would have won til he died, Stewart then taken over until he retired, then Lauda or Fittipaldi if you could drag him away from his brothers team, then god only knows 1978 - 1984 Gilles the heart says, then Prost and Senna til 1993 then Schumacher with 13 titles or something stupid and Alonso and Hamilton (yes he IS good) til now. Boring that isn't it? I'd rather that people were reminded that there really is not a great deal between everyone on the grid, just the cars.!!

Oh and Aston Villa have never won the Champions League, the did win the European Cup so have Celtic, Nottm Forest, Hamburg, Steau Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade. Borrusia Dortmund and Porto are probably the biggest shock winners of the CL.

Surely Vettel deserves the champoionship? That's three wins now in what was clearly an inferior car today. Button in the English best car could only manage a measly single point while his teammate acted on team orders to get a heroic seventh in his inferior back of the grid car.

Button drove well today, nearly got RB.

Team orders? To stay in front of Button? What kind of team orders are those? Made up ones by any chance?

The "World Champion-Elect" finished 8th. Enough said.