And how great the FI are! Or were lol depending on track I guess..

You are over-reacting. In my opinion it was a good performance from Fisichella today at Suzuka.

Really??
My understanding is this... His goal was to take points helping Ferrari getting WCC #3.

I think Fisi is a decent driver. This years Ferrari just happens to be very difficult to drive.Crappy car.

Fisichella didn't suddenly become a bad driver after Spa, where he was clearly in the contention for the victory.

What changed? Team, car, everything! Except him.

It just sounds like a lot of people here seriously underestimate the effort that goes into winning a F1 Grand Prix, and also seriously underestimate the effort to be at least fairly competitive in F1.

It has signs of a very short attention span, to be honest with you, that's what I think, a lot of people have a very short attention span, and it shows in the discussions here and elsewhere. Or should I say memory. Perhaps that's a bit the same thing.

Fisi is driving his dream. He shoud get real for a change.

I agree with this post. At least Fisi is improving by each GP, but I was kinda expecting him to be able to at least go fast in the car in qualifying. Hasn't happened yet, we'll see if he manages.

Living his dream, yeah, a dream that turns out to be a nightmare. Unless he delivers some big in at least one of the last two races, his season is basically ruined. He was a joy to watch this year in the Force India, not always great in qualifyings, but really great in races, many overtaking moves, promising results and finally Spa. He clearly felt that car perfectly, and I'm sure he would have done much better than Sutil in Monza and Suzuka, maybe not in Singapore.

Hungary 2009 became one of the most hated race by me seeing the conclusions.

Or how crap is Sutil

Personally I would have preferred he stayed at Force India. At least there he had measure of Sutil. Now he is not only slow but also making typical Fisi type errors.

I´m so happy Fisi took the Ferrari drive. After Spa I was starting to think that maybe he had few more years left in F1, but since his Ferrari drives, he´s managed to lay that one to rest.
It´s time to get the old slippers and pipe out Fisi.

What a waste of the second Ferrari seat
Ferrari could have got in some young guys and given them some chance to test a car
Third in WCC is alive only coz of Kimi driving fantastically!
Next race in Mclaren territory ....they will overtake Ferrari there

Ferrari own someone quite alot and they do because they have treated him badly and he is still out there giving his all.

Kimi should IMO, do no favours for Ferrari but he is doing wonders and has pushed the car to it's maximum. If he secures 3rd for Ferrari, which looks doubtful, he would have earned his extra millions right there.

Anyone know the difference in prize money between 3rd and 4th?

I million dollars! Oh sorry 100 BILLION DOLLARS!!!! Mehahahahahaha

Somehow that mistake fits his profile. He isn't dumb or slow, but sometimes just incompetent. Reminds me of Suzuka 2005 when KR overtook him because of his totally unnecessary blocking move in the last chicane (KR got better speed out of the chicane and overtook on the next straight).

I think we owe it to both Luca and Fisi (especially) for not wasting the FIA's time with having to make extra columns on their spreadsheet for points calculations. This way they have more time for inventing penalties for certain drivers and great excuses for avoiding penalties for certain teams.

We have an interesting situation right now.

Kimi is just 2 points ahead of Lewis, and both teammates have scored 22 points each.
Kova alone for Maca and Massa+Baboer+Fisico for Ferrari.

World Championship standings, round 15:

Drivers:
5. Raikkonen 45
6. Hamilton 43
7. Rosberg 34.5

Constructors:
3. Ferrari 67
4. McLaren-Mercedes 65
6. Williams-Toyota 34.5

Those 6 points Lewis threw away in Monza will be missed.
Also the negative point is Naka Jr., no point so far to help Williams. Nico made 100% os WCC points.

From where he was starting, Badoer did pretty well I think - he was really crippled by lack of experience in 2009 spec cars and race environment and experience.

But the 2009 cars are all so similar so Fisichella had basically been driving a very similar car to the Ferrari he is driving now, and he ought to be doing better. And I really doubt its a case of Fisi needing to learn the Ferrari though, even with KERS.

It just means the Ferrari sucks at the moment, and even the Force India is now a better car - at least on fast circuits.

One might more accurately say that Massa alone have scored those 22 points for Ferrari since Badoer's and Fisico's drivin' has been... how to put it... pointless.

Fisi's performance comes only to show how a piece of crap this Ferrari car is, and how Massa and Kimi are along with Lewis and Alonso the top 4 drivers in F1!

it means they still have one shot left, since massa is no counting for being injured

maybe they are not aware of that fact?

Indeed.

I guess we'll never know how good Michael Schumacher would have been in that car.

I have always said that Fisi was too easy to pass..... proven once again

As the commentators picked up on in the race Fisis struggles have put Badoers performance into a bit more context. This years Ferrari is the worst from Maranello for many years and it also puts Kimis win at Spa and some of his other performances into context. The car doesnt deserve to be in the top 6 at most races.

As for Fisis pit exit that was a real brain fade. Very easy to prevent that. He shouldve known the Mac would deploy its KERS. That said it was a good amends from Kova for his earlier mistake with Sutil. For a moment it reminded me of Senna infamously going down the inside of Prost at T1, kicking up dirt from the inside.

Fisi probably scored in Spa the most surprisingly result of the season...no doubt, and 3 races cannot change that. The comparizon with a WDC just after 3 races in the same car it's ridicoulous.

About the comments on the same the Fisi level as in Renault days... those people probably are underrating Flavio in his glory days...i've always said that in Renault it quite difficult to judge the Alonso (however the best driver in the last 5 years) mate performances...

fisi is getting a bit better, for what I've seen yesterday. is race pace was about 0,5 slower than kimi's, so that's about a good performance tanking for granted that Kimi's race pace is one of the 2-3 best in the world, that fisico still adapting and that he's 36.

Lets see if he can manage another improvement at Interlagos where he got his first win at the expense of Kimi.

Those two realy have a history, don't they?

I was lookimg a book of pictures of the history of F1, while eating a sandwich of San Daniele`s ham, the radio were playing Puccini´s La Boheme with Pavarotti and now I read your comment. Really can you explain wich is the problem with the italian mangement?

Guys,

Doens't this remind you of a certain 2006 race in which this happened to Fisico too. Ironically then being a Ferrari passing him after the pitstop via th grass on the inside?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM6eNpOrsdY

From 6:45 onwards

The thing is, Fisi could have thought that Heikki would have used his KERS on any part of the track to overtake, but was surprised to have been in the exit of the pits.
Or was too busy to have been looking in his mirrors at that point (unless he knew that Heikki was there)

But its a shame that Fisi never used his KERS at that same lap to retake the position on some straight line (unless there arent any after the pit exit or 1 long enough to build speed and make its worth)