Muppetmad
Oct 6 2009, 18:53
What we often do is winge about Bernie Ecclestone and how he brings races to countries without any real motor racing history, and we also whine about Hermann Tilke's dull tracks. Well, have you ever really thought what your perfect calendar would be? Why not design one?
My only restriction? Try to be somewhat realistic. A dream season with Avus, Monza 10k, old Hockenheim, Bremgarten and Nordschleife is just that - a dream. Maybe one or two somewhat unrealistic races, but don't make a whole calendar of them.
Here's mine:
Australian Grand Prix - Adelaide Street Circuit, 81 laps
Grand Prix of Melbourne - Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit, 58 laps
Grand Prix of Paradise - Surfers Paradise, 60 laps
Chinese Grand Prix - Macau Guia Circuit, 40 laps
Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 53 laps
Mount Fuji Grand Prix - Fuji Speedway, 67 laps
British Grand Prix - Silverstone, 60 laps
Grand Prix of Champions - Brands Hatch, 75 laps
French Grand Prix - Circuit de la Sarthe, 30 laps
Monaco Grand Prix - Circuit de Monaco, 78 laps
San Marino Grand Prix - Imola, 62 laps
Italian Grand Prix - Monza, 53 laps
German Grand Prix - Norisring, 60 laps
European Grand Prix - Nürburgring Nordschleife, 15 laps
Belgian Grand Prix - Spa Francorchamps, 44 laps
Spanish Grand Prix - Montjuïc Circuit, 75 laps
Canadian Grand Prix - Gilles Villeneuve, 70 laps
Grand Prix of Toronto - Toronto, 85 laps
American Grand Prix - Road America, 42 laps
Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 64 laps
Argentinian Grand Prix - Potrero de los Funes, 48 laps
Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 71 laps

Whilst I believe the Nordschleife is somewhat an unrealistic option, I believe the others
could be possible. Well, maybe not Macau or Montjuïc, but well... I can dream, eh?
Your turn!
pacwest
Oct 6 2009, 18:58
Race every weekend at 7pm Saturday night. Sold.
Jackmancer
Oct 6 2009, 19:01
I want Zandvoort and Jarama back. And an oval race like Indy 500.
australian grand prix 1, melbourne
san marino grand prix, imola
spanish grand prix, valencia permanent circuit
monaci grand prix, monaco
portuguese grand prix, estoril
french grand prix, paul ricard
british grand prix, silverstone
dutch grand prix, zandvoort
german grand prix, hockenheim old circuit
austrian grand prix, osterreichring
belgian grand prix, spa
italian grand prix, monza
swiss grand prix, dijon
european grand prix, brands hatch
mexican grand prix, hermanos rodriguez
canadian grand prix, montreal
us grand prix, watkins glen
brazilian grand prix, interlagos
chinese grand prix, macau
japanese grand prix, suzuka
australian grand prix 2, bathurst
indy 500, indianapolis oval
noikeee
Oct 6 2009, 19:09
We've done this topic quite a few times. Here's my calendar again:
QUOTE
Round 1 - Australian GP - Melbourne
Round 2 - Malaysian GP - Sepang
Round 3 - South African GP - Kyalami
Round 4 - Bahrain GP - Sakhir
Round 5 - Turkish GP - Istanbul
Round 6 - Spanish GP - Motorland Aragón
Round 7 - Monaco GP - Monte Carlo
Round 8 - Canadian GP - Montreal
Round 9 - USA GP - Long Beach
Round 10 - Mexican GP - Hermanos Rodriguez
Round 11 - French GP - Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe
Round 12 - British GP - Silverstone
Round 13 - German GP - Hockenheim
Round 14 - Czech GP - Brno
Round 15 - Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps
Round 16 - Italian GP - Monza
Round 17 - Portuguese GP - Portimão
Round 18 - Singapore GP - Marina Bay
Round 19 - Japanese GP - Suzuka
Round 20 - Chinese GP - Macau
Round 21 - Argentinian GP - Potrero de los Funes
Round 22 - Brazilian GP - Interlagos
F3000man
Oct 6 2009, 19:13
20 races. A lap around the world.
New Zealander Grand Prix, Bathurst
Australian Grand Prix, Mélbourne
Malaysian Grand Prix, Sepang
Japanese Grand Prix, Suzuka
Turkey Grand Prix, Istambul
European Grand Prix, Avus
German Grand Prix, Nurburgring Nordschleife
British Grand Prix, Birmingham
English Grand Prix, Brands Hatch
Belgian Grand Prix, Spa-Francorchamps
French Grand Prix, Le Mans Sarthe
San Marino Grand Prix, Enna-Pergusa
Italian Grand Prix, Monza
Spanish Grand Prix, Valencia Street Circuit
Argentinian Grand Prix, Potrero de los Funes
Brazilian Grand Prix, Interlagos
Talladega 500
US Grand Prix, Indianapolis
America Grand Prix, Watkins Glen
Canadian Grand Prix, Montreal
Starting at early March and finishing at late November.
Muppetmad
Oct 6 2009, 19:13
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Oct 6 2009, 20:09)

We've done this topic quite a few times. Here's my calendar again:
Sorry, I did a search and couldn't find any topics.
Thanks for posting your calendar though, it's certainly more realistic than mine.
I can't see anyone being happy about a race in Australia being given the title New Zealand, neither the Aussies or the Kiwis.
TheArmchairCritic
Oct 6 2009, 19:24
Australian GP, Melbourne.
Malaysian GP,Sepang
Turkish GP,Istanbul.
Spanish GP, Montujic.
Monaco GP.
Canadian GP, Montreal.
US GP, Road America.
Mexican GP, Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez .
French GP, Le Mans(24 hour Circuit)
British GP, Silverstone.
German GP,Old Hockenheim.(I'll cut down those trees my self)
Belgian GP, Spa.
Italian GP, Monza.
European GP, Nurburgring.(the green hell)
San Marino GP, Imola.
Singapore GP, Marina Bay.
Japanese GP, Suzuka.
Chinese GP,Macau
Argentinian GP, Potrero de los Funes.
Brazilian GP, Interlagos.
Muppetmad
Oct 6 2009, 19:33
Thank you all for reminding me about Potrero de los Funes - I'd completely forgotten about that one, and I tried really hard to think of an Argentinian course but failed miserably

I do like Potrero de los Funes, so I've added that one to my calendar...
F3000man
Oct 6 2009, 20:01
QUOTE (ryan86 @ Oct 6 2009, 20:18)

I can't see anyone being happy about a race in Australia being given the title New Zealand, neither the Aussies or the Kiwis.
Whoa, hahaha, I swear I was confounding Bathurst with Pukehoke.
Anyway, change the Bathurst race to Pacific Grand Prix, whatever.
crosshatch
Oct 6 2009, 20:05
1) Portimao
2) Montjuich Park
3) Brno
4) Le Mans
5) Monaco
6) Brand's Hatch
7) Hockenheim (old)
8) Zandvoort (pref. old circuit too.
9) Spa
10) Monza
11) Montreal
12) Watkin's Glen
13) Laguna Seca
14) Hermanos Rodriguez
15) Potero de los Funes
16) Interlagos
17) Sepang
18) Macau Guia
19) Motegi
20) Suzuka
21) Bathurst
22) Surfer's Paradise
Remodeled and modified Monza bankings (less steep for safety reasons) to Indycar levels would do wonders for that circuit. Try and get back to the 10 km lap. Imagine having a somewhat safe version of the old Monza from 1955-1956 and 1960-1961 on the calendar. It can be done.
That would be my first priority.
ezequiel
Oct 6 2009, 22:13
1) Silverstone: classic
2)Monza: classic and fast
3)Montecarlo: great street circuit
4)Bathurst: amazing
5)Melbourne: always entertaining
6)Macau: long and difficult
7)Elkhart Lake: bright
8)Laguna Seca: great corners
9)El Zonda: a circuit in the mountains works
10)Potrero de los Funes: idem El Zonda
11)Jacarepaguá: classic
12)That circuit in Morocco, from the fifties, how was it called?: crazy
13)Nordschleife (though unrealistic): crazy 2
14)Spa: spectacular
15)Portimao: bright 2
johnmhinds
Oct 6 2009, 22:23
1, Spa
2, Suzuka
Repeat x8
krapmeister
Oct 6 2009, 22:24
Much as I love Bathurst and would love to see an F1 car running on it - if we are being realistic then you can't seriously suggest it as a GP venue.
Phillip Island would be mega though.
V8 Fireworks
Oct 6 2009, 22:30
QUOTE (F3000man @ Oct 6 2009, 19:13)

New Zealander Grand Prix, Bathurst
Which Bathurst is this in New Zealand?

It wouldn't be that dangeous anyhow... just keep it on the black stuff after all ;) . If Buemi loses the car at 320 kph across the top and walls it with bits of CF going every where, surely he has been pushing too hard!
George Costanza
Oct 6 2009, 22:37
QUOTE (F3000man @ Oct 6 2009, 15:13)

20 races. A lap around the world.
New Zealander Grand Prix, Bathurst
Australian Grand Prix, Mélbourne
Malaysian Grand Prix, Sepang
Japanese Grand Prix, Suzuka
Turkey Grand Prix, Istambul
European Grand Prix, Avus
German Grand Prix, Nurburgring Nordschleife
British Grand Prix, Birmingham
English Grand Prix, Brands Hatch
Belgian Grand Prix, Spa-Francorchamps
French Grand Prix, Le Mans Sarthe
San Marino Grand Prix, Enna-Pergusa
Italian Grand Prix, Monza
Spanish Grand Prix, Valencia Street Circuit
Argentinian Grand Prix, Potrero de los Funes
Brazilian Grand Prix, Interlagos
Talladega 500
US Grand Prix, Indianapolis
America Grand Prix, Watkins Glen
Canadian Grand Prix, Montreal
Starting at early March and finishing at late November.
I second this. Le Mans La Sarthe
1. Australian GP - Adelaide [Night race]
2. New Zealand GP - Hampton Downs [Track still under construction]
3. Spanish GP - Motorland Aragon
4. German GP - Nurburgring [GP Course]
5. European GP - Donington
6. Dutch GP - Zandvoort
7. San Marino GP - Imola
8. Monaco GP - Monte Carlo
9. Canadian GP - Montreal
10. US GP - Watkins Glen [On the condition of no changes to track layout and minimal increase in runoff area]
11. Swedish GP - Gotlandring [Track still under construction]
12. British GP - Silverstone
13. French GP - Le Mans Bugatti
14. Czech GP - Brno
15. Belgian GP -Spa
16. Italian GP - Monza
17. Japanese GP - Suzuka
18. Portugeuse GP - Algarve
19. Argentine GP - San Luis
20. Brazilian GP - Interlagos
scheivlak
Oct 6 2009, 22:41
QUOTE (Muppetmad @ Oct 6 2009, 19:53)

What we often do is winge about Bernie Ecclestone and how he brings races to countries without any real motor racing history, and we also whine about Hermann Tilke's dull tracks. Well, have you ever really thought what your perfect calendar would be? Why not design one?
My only restriction? Try to be somewhat realistic. A dream season with Avus, Monza 10k, old Hockenheim, Bremgarten and Nordschleife is just that - a dream. Maybe one or two somewhat unrealistic races, but don't make a whole calendar of them.
Here's mine:
Australian Grand Prix - Adelaide Street Circuit, 81 laps
Grand Prix of Melbourne - Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit, 58 laps
Grand Prix of Paradise - Surfers Paradise, 60 laps
Chinese Grand Prix - Macau Guia Circuit, 40 laps
Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 53 laps
Mount Fuji Grand Prix - Fuji Speedway, 67 laps
British Grand Prix - Silverstone, 60 laps
Grand Prix of Champions - Brands Hatch, 75 laps
German Grand Prix - Norisring, 60 laps
Green Hell Grand Prix - Nürburgring Nordschleife, 15 laps
Belgian Grand Prix - Spa Francorchamps, 44 laps
Italian Grand Prix - Monza, 53 laps
San Marino Grand Prix - Imola, 62 laps
European Grand Prix - Circuit de la Sarthe, 30 laps
French Grand Prix - Dijon-Prenois, 55 laps
Monaco Grand Prix - Circuit de Monaco, 78 laps
Spanish Grand Prix - Montjuïc Circuit, 75 laps
Grand Prix of Toronto - Toronto, 85 laps
Canadian Grand Prix - Gilles Villeneuve, 70 laps
American Grand Prix - Road America, 42 laps
Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 64 laps
Argentinian Grand Prix - Potrero de los Funes, 48 laps
Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 71 laps
Whilst I believe the Nordschleife is somewhat an unrealistic option, I believe the others
could be possible. Well, maybe not Macau or Montjuïc, but well... I can dream, eh?
Your turn!
The first 3 races held in Australia???
Are you Australian by any chance?
The first 3 races held in a country which has an Australian driver win 1 race in 29 years.

Seems to me that you are following the wrong sport. Australian V8 supercars has your ideal calendar.
rmac923
Oct 6 2009, 23:03
This was my idea awhile back:
1. Australia - Melbourne
2. Pacific - Fuji
3. Europe - Donnington (Current or Tilke'd)
4. San Marino - Imola (Though it's still not that great with all those chicanes)
5. Spain - Jerez
6. Monaco - Monaco
7. United States - Laguna Seca (Might need to be lengthened)
8. Canada - Montreal
9. France - Paul Ricard (PAY-UP BERNIE)
10. Britain - Silverstone
11. Germany - Nurburgring/Hockenheim (I'm indifferent about both)
12. Hungary - Hungaroring (I like it...

)
13. Belgium - Spa
14. Italy - Monza
15. Portugal - Portimao
16. South Africa - Kyalami
17. Japan - Suzuka
18. Brazil - Interlagos
For Fun, here's Bernie Ecclestone's dream schedule:
1. Bahrain
2. Qatar
3. Indonesia
4. Malaysia
5. Valencia
6. Monaco
7. Turkey
8. Bulgaria
9. Hockenheim (He's so determined to keep it, lol)
10. Rome
11. India
12. China
13. Korea
14. Singapore
15. Abu Dhabi
16. New York City
You forgot the Hungaroring. Despite the dull races Bernie would never take it off the calendar
Captain Tightpants
Oct 7 2009, 01:25
Americas League
1 - Brazilian Grand Prix / Interlagos
2 - Argentine Grand Prix /Potrero de los Funes
3 - United States Grand Prix / Miller Motorsports Park
4 - Canadian Grand Prix / Circuit de Gilles Villeneuve
S - Atlantic Grand Prix / Manhattan Street Circuit (day/night)
West European League
5 - Portugese Grand Prix / Algarve
6 - Spanish Grand Prix / Aragon
7 - British Grand Prix / Silverstone "Arrowhead"
8 - French Grand Prix / Charade
S - Monaco Grand Prix / Circuit de Monaco
East European League
9 - German Grand Prix / Sachsenring
10 - Italian Grand Prix / Monza
11 - Hungarian Grand Prix / Hungaroring
12 - Bulgarian Grand Prix / Dobroslavtsi (night)
S - Eurasian Grand Prix / Moscow
Middle Eastern Leage
13 - Turkish Grand Prix / Istanbul Park
14 - Bahrain Grand Prix / Sakhir
15 - Abu Dhabi Grand Prix / Yas Marina (day/night)
16 - Indian Grand Prix / Jaypee Group Circuit
S - Arabain Grand Prix / Losail (night)
Pacific League
17 - Australian Grand Prix / Albert Park
18 - Singapore Grand Prix / Marina Bay Street Circuit (night)
19 - Malaysian Grand Prix / Sepang
20 - Chinese Grand Prix / Shanghai
S - Pacific Grand Prix / Suzuka
"S" races are "Special" Grands Prix. They are worth double points, which are issued all the way down to twelfth.
Points are not only awarded for individual races, but for the "Leagues" as well, creating championships-within-championships designed to award consistency.
QUOTE (V8 Fireworks @ Oct 7 2009, 10:30)

Which Bathurst is this in New Zealand?

It wouldn't be that dangeous anyhow... just keep it on the black stuff after all ;) . If Buemi loses the car at 320 kph across the top and walls it with bits of CF going every where, surely he has been pushing too hard!
I think he is insinuating that NZ is so small that our race should be hosted in a bigger country, comparing us to the likes of San Marino is a bit of a stretch.
In reality NZ has plenty of tracks and a racing heritage that is as strong if not stronger than Australia's.
My vote would be a street race on the old World Touring Car track in Wellington. A bonus that I could see the race from my office building - no shot in hell of that happening though.
Otherwise Taupo, and Hampton Downs shouldn't require much work to bring up to F1 standards both being new tracks.
Alfisti
Oct 7 2009, 02:55
Jesus those suggesting Bathurst, hope you have a big supply of body bags 'cos you're gonna need them.
Captain Tightpants
Oct 7 2009, 03:24
QUOTE (Alfisti @ Oct 7 2009, 13:55)

Jesus those suggesting Bathurst, hope you have a big supply of body bags 'cos you're gonna need them.
There's actully plans to build a
4.7km "Grand Prix" circuit (not actually intended for Grand Prix racing, but of Grand Prix length using parts of the Mount Panorama circuit. It cuts left across the infield halfway up Mountain Straight and weaves across to Conrod near the entrance to the Chase. The cars then go a short distance up Conrod in the opposite direction to the usual, before the drivers have to negotiate a rather complex-looking sequence of bends and rejoins halfway through the Chase. The idea is to create a circuit that has the character of the greater circuit, but is a shorter format and a identity of its own. Comparisons with the parent circuit are inevitable, but I think that it will hold its own as a sprint circuit; certainly better than the chorter circuits like Queensland Raceway, Barbagallo, Symonds Plains and the like.
So if Mount Panorama proper isn't an option, the shorter version might be, assuming its gets completed. The people of Bathurst apparently love the fact that they have Mount Panorama there, and from the sounds of things, they're clearly eager to get more going. I'm sure they'd embrace Formula One if ever the circus came to town.
Jimisgod
Oct 7 2009, 04:03
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Oct 7 2009, 14:24)

There's actully plans to build a
4.7km "Grand Prix" circuit (not actually intended for Grand Prix racing, but of Grand Prix length using parts of the Mount Panorama circuit. It cuts left across the infield halfway up Mountain Straight and weaves across to Conrod near the entrance to the Chase. The cars then go a short distance up Conrod in the opposite direction to the usual, before the drivers have to negotiate a rather complex-looking sequence of bends and rejoins halfway through the Chase. The idea is to create a circuit that has the character of the greater circuit, but is a shorter format and a identity of its own. Comparisons with the parent circuit are inevitable, but I think that it will hold its own as a sprint circuit; certainly better than the chorter circuits like Queensland Raceway, Barbagallo, Symonds Plains and the like.
So if Mount Panorama proper isn't an option, the shorter version might be, assuming its gets completed. The people of Bathurst apparently love the fact that they have Mount Panorama there, and from the sounds of things, they're clearly eager to get more going. I'm sure they'd embrace Formula One if ever the circus came to town.
So basically it's at Bathurst but minus all the parts on top of the mountain, coming down the mountain, Conrod straight and Mountain straight - ie. all the parts that make Bathurst Bathurst?
No thank you.
Captain Tightpants
Oct 7 2009, 04:17
QUOTE (Jimisgod @ Oct 7 2009, 15:03)

So basically it's at Bathurst but minus all the parts on top of the mountain, coming down the mountain, Conrod straight and Mountain straight - ie. all the parts that make Bathurst Bathurst?
No thank you.
Sort of. The idea is not to pilfer the Australian Grand Prix away from Melbourne. There's nothing to suggest they even want it. Rather, they want to make a shorter version of the circuit that could be used for sprint races in the V8 Supercars. It's not trying to be a good as its parent circuit; it's trying to stay true to the name Bathurst, but while making an identty of its own. Don't forget that the cars do go over a crest just before the Chase, so the proposed extension isn't going to be totally flat.
Now, I'm not suggetsing that this Baby Bathurst
should have the Australian Grand Prix. But since a lot to people seem to think Formula One cars should tackle the Mountain when Laguna Seca stands a better chance of making the calendar, Baby Bathurst is probably the only way that Formula One could ever visit the Mountain. Unless the owners were willing to iron out the Dipper and a few parts up around Reid, Sulman and McPhillamy; they're the only
really dangeous bits, mostly because they're blind and there's limited run-off. The FIA might disagree with that one-in-six climb out of the Cutting as well, but there's not much that can be down about it.
Muppetmad
Oct 7 2009, 05:57
QUOTE (JarnoA @ Oct 6 2009, 23:48)

The first 3 races held in Australia???
Are you Australian by any chance?
The first 3 races held in a country which has an Australian driver win 1 race in 29 years.

Seems to me that you are following the wrong sport. Australian V8 supercars has your ideal calendar.
Actually, I'm English - I just love Adelaide, Melbourne and Surfers Paradise, and wanted to create a race for each
I've done a similar thing with Canada, Germany, Japan, Britain and France, so that's why I've done that. I also wanted at least 3 races in each major racing continent, and there isn't any tracks in New Zealand that scream out at me as brilliant, so that's why they're all in Australia.
01. South African GP - Kyalami
02. Brazilian GP - Interlagos
03. GP of Monaco
04. French GP - Rouen (totally redone just like Spa has been reworked into a semi-permanent circuit)
05. Dutch GP - Zandvoort
06. British GP - Silverstone
07. German GP(either old Hockenheim or new Nürburgring - they won't let me have the Nordschleife anyway!)
08. GP of Belgium - Spa
09. European GP - (changes venue each year between Spain, San Marino, Portugal, Turkey, Hungary and many more)
10. GP of Canada
11. US GP - Watkins Glen
12. Italian GP - Monza
13. Japanese GP - Suzuka
14. Australian GP - Adelaide
Add some non-championship races on circuits that either are traditional (Brands Hatch, for example) or those that want to prove they're worth a race (Asia, etc.). Teams are not bound to attend (as is the case with championship races), but will either do, because of money (Bahrain, Qatar, etc. will give huge prizes), because of publicity (Chinese markets - Mercedes, etc. will ask their teams to participate) or pure glory (Brands Hatch as Race of Champions). Equally, teams that have no entry for the championship are free to participate in these non-championship events to prove their worth and hope to be accepted by the FIA - or just run for the fun of it with old customer cars.
If needed, Asian GP might be added with changing venues each year as with the European GP.
1, Australia, Melbourne
2, Malaysia, Sepang
3, Bahrain, Sakhir
4, China, Shanghai
5, Pacific, Fuji
6, Catalonia, Barcelona
(break for Indy 500)
7, Monaco (first weekend in June)
(weekend off for Le Mans)
8, England, Silverstone
9, France, Magny-Cours
10, Portugal, Portimão
11, Germany, Hockenheim
12, San Marino, Imola
13, Great Britain, Donington Park
14, US GP, Watkins Glen
15, Canada, Montréal
16, Europe, Nürburgring
17, Belgium, Spa
18, Italy, Monza
19, Singapore
20, Japan, Suzuka
21, Brazil, Interlagos
22, California, Sears Point (NASCAR course)
23, Abu Dhabi
24, Spain, Jerez
The subsequent GP2 calendar would be:
Barcelona
Monaco
Silverstone
Magny-Cours
Portimão
Hockenheim
Imola
Donington Park
Nürburgring
Spa
Monza
The winter GP2 season would consist of:
Interlagos
Sears Point
Abu Dhabi
Jerez
Melbourne
Sepang
Sakhir
1. Spa Francorchamps
2. Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
3. Silverstone
4. Spa Francorchamps
5. Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
6. Silverstone
7. Spa Francorchamps
8. Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
9. Silverstone
10. Spa Francorchamps
11. Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
12. Silverstone
13. Spa Francorchamps
14. Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
15. Silverstone
16. Spa Francorchamps
17. Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
18. Silverstone
We're only dreaming, right? But I'll try to keep it real.
01 - Australian GP - Albert Park
02 - Malaysian GP - Sepang
03 - Spanish GP - Barcelona
04 - Monaco GP - Monaco
05 - Turkish GP - Istambul (with a proper 2 week gap between the GPs)
06 - European GP - rotation between Brands Hatch & Imola
07 - USA GP - Indy
08 - Canadian GP - Montreal
09 - French GP - Paul Ricard (long circuit, rebuild those damn grandstands)
10 - Brithsh GP - Silverstone
11 - German GP - Hockenheim (
bypass corner 6 and make a long straight from corners 4 to 8, the fast old spirit with more seating and better for TV)
12 - Hungarian GP - Hungaroring
13 - Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps
14 - Italian GP - Monza
15 - Singapore GP - Marina Bay Street Circuit (a real street circuit with the 80s spirit, hard, long and bumpy)
16 - Japanese GP - Suzuka
17 - Brazilian GP - Interlagos
QUOTE (Atreiu @ Oct 7 2009, 15:13)

02 - Malaysian GP - Sepang
05 - Turkish GP - Istambul (with a proper 2 week gap between the GPs)
12 - Hungarian GP - Hungaroring
What makes you put these on your perfect calendar?
QUOTE (anbeck @ Oct 7 2009, 14:40)

What makes you put these on your perfect calendar?
Surprisingly, the Hungaroring used to provide good racing in the 80s, unfortunately, ever since 1990 it's been a really boring race.
As for my calendar:
1. Australian GP-Albert Park
2. Chinese GP- Macau Street Circuit
3. Japanese GP- Suzuka/Fuji Speedway
4. Spanish GP- Motorland Aragon
5. Monaco GP- Monte Carlo Street Circuit
6. Austrian GP- Osterreichring*
7. European GP- Jerez/Donington/Istanbul
8. French GP- Paul Ricard
9. British GP-Silverstone
10. German GP- Old Hockenheim*
11. Czech GP- Brno Circuit
12. Belgian GP- Spa Francorchamps
13. Italian GP- Monza (old)*
14. Canadian GP- Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
15. United States GP- Road America/Laguna Seca
16. Mexican GP- Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez
17. Argentinian GP- Potrero De Los Funes
18. Brazilian GP- Interlagos
*Not possible since the tracks have been destroyed/irrevocably changed.
Most of this calendar is really unrealistic. I doubt we'll ever see Hermanos Rodriguez or Paul Ricard back on the calendar and Road America/Laguna Seca/Macau wouldn't make it on either.
QUOTE (anbeck @ Oct 7 2009, 10:40)

What makes you put these on your perfect calendar?
I like them. They are all good tracks which are ruined by the current cars.
Muppetmad
Oct 7 2009, 15:36
I think the masses of crowds at Macau just proves how superior it is to Shanghai - both as a circuit and most likely ticket prices. I think at least a GP2 race at Macau would be awesome, and then eventually try to ease the race into an F1 direction. I don't care whether it would be a parade or not, it would still be the perfect test of a driver's skill and concentration.
jhodges
Oct 7 2009, 15:59
QUOTE (johnmhinds @ Oct 6 2009, 11:23)

1, Spa
2, Suzuka
Repeat x8

This.
THE "driverider"
Oct 7 2009, 16:05
I'm going to be a little serious in my suggestion!
1. Australian Grand Prix - Albert Park
2. Malaysian Grand Prix - Sepang (1)
3. Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir
4. French Grand Prix - Le Mans Bugatti
5. Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya
6. Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo
7. European Grand Prix - Donington Park
8. British Grand Prix - Silverstone
9. Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal
10. United States Grand Prix - Laguna Seca
11. German Grand Prix - Nurburgring
12. Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul
13. Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps
14. Italian Grand Prix - Monza
15. Portugese Grand Prix - Algarve
16. Singapore Grand Prix -Marina Bay (1)
17. Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka
18. Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos
19. Argentine Grand Prix - Potrero de los Funes (2)
20. Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina (3)
(1) Night Grand Prix
(2) Sunrise Grand Prix
(3) Twilight Grand Prix
I'm pretty convinced all these circuits could host a Formula One Grand Prix, their safe ebough and would bring money and entertainment. I feel Britain should have two Grand Prixs because of Lewis and Jenson. I would drop Shanghai, Hungaroring and Valencia as I don't think they are worth having on the calendar. I'm also not convinced by the Korean Grand Prix circuit it doesn't look that good.
halifaxf1fan
Oct 7 2009, 16:35
QUOTE (F3000man @ Oct 6 2009, 19:13)

20 races. A lap around the world.
New Zealander Grand Prix, Bathurst
Australian Grand Prix, Mélbourne
Malaysian Grand Prix, Sepang
Japanese Grand Prix, Suzuka
Turkey Grand Prix, Istambul
European Grand Prix, Avus
German Grand Prix, Nurburgring Nordschleife
British Grand Prix, Birmingham
English Grand Prix, Brands Hatch
Belgian Grand Prix, Spa-Francorchamps
French Grand Prix, Le Mans Sarthe
San Marino Grand Prix, Enna-Pergusa
Italian Grand Prix, Monza
Spanish Grand Prix, Valencia Street Circuit
Argentinian Grand Prix, Potrero de los Funes
Brazilian Grand Prix, Interlagos
Talladega 500
US Grand Prix, Indianapolis
America Grand Prix, Watkins Glen
Canadian Grand Prix, Montreal
Starting at early March and finishing at late November.
montreal canada in November. I hope they have the studded tires available. alternately they could race snowmobiles, kimi would like that!
Alfisti
Oct 7 2009, 17:09
QUOTE (Jimisgod @ Oct 7 2009, 07:03)

So basically it's at Bathurst but minus all the parts on top of the mountain, coming down the mountain, Conrod straight and Mountain straight - ie. all the parts that make Bathurst Bathurst?
No thank you.
Exactly, that's what makes Bathurst, bnathurst. Hurtling across the top with nothing but walls to stop you and an F1 car is going to pull HUGE speeds through Reid Park, Sulman Park, McPhillamy ...... Grodjean's body would be flung out somewhere near Lithgow on lap one.
1)Monza
2)Spa
3)Monza
4)Spa
5)Monza
6)Spa
7)Spa
8)Monza
x +∞
QUOTE (JarnoA @ Oct 6 2009, 23:48)

The first 3 races held in Australia???
Are you Australian by any chance?
The first 3 races held in a country which has an Australian driver win 1 race in 29 years.

Seems to me that you are following the wrong sport. Australian V8 supercars has your ideal calendar.
Actually,back in the 60s,NZ had what were efectivlly 4 F1 races in january,AUS 4 in February.Technically F.Libre,then Tasman,but contained current F1 teams & drivers.South Africa had 4 race F1 series in 1961.
I would like to see all Tilkedromes relegated to testing & boyracer trackdays.All major events intending to attract spectators should be in city centres.
damon_hill_fan2007
Oct 8 2009, 10:06
Been strict with mine - maximum 18 races, and all tracks have been previously used for an F1 race (as much as I would like to see Portimao on the calendar!). Also, to try and be as realistic as possible, nothing pre 80s (so no Nordschleife etc)
Brazil - Interlagos
Mexico - Mexico City (Early 90s Layout)
San Marino - Imola (Pre 1995 Layout)
Spain - Jerez (Pre 1994 Layout)
Monaco - Monaco
Canada - Montreal (Pre 1995 Layout)
Holland - Zandvoort
France - Paul Ricard (80s Layout)
Britain - Silverstone (80s Layout)
Germany - Hockenheim (Pre 2002 Layout)
Hungary - Hugaroring
Austria - Osterreichring (80s Layout)
Belgium - Spa
Italy - Monza
Portugal - Estoril (Pre 1994 Layout)
Europe - Brands Hatch (GP Circuit)
Japan - Suzuka
Australia - Adelaide
krapmeister
Oct 8 2009, 10:42
QUOTE (Alfisti @ Oct 8 2009, 01:09)

Exactly, that's what makes Bathurst, bnathurst. Hurtling across the top with nothing but walls to stop you and an F1 car is going to pull HUGE speeds through Reid Park, Sulman Park, McPhillamy ...... Grodjean's body would be flung out somewhere near Lithgow on lap one.
Would love to see though an F1 car do a run around Bathurst, similar to Heidfeld/BMW on the Nordschleife - perhaps Webber in a Red Bull - just to hear the driver's thoughts and to get some EPIC shots and footage...
QUOTE (THE @ Oct 7 2009, 18:05)

4. French Grand Prix - Le Mans Bugatti
Ooooh, that one sucked in '67 and it sucks now. Might as well run on a Leclerc parking lot.
Mansell Madgwick
Oct 8 2009, 15:59
I don't think Zandvoort would make much of a Grand Prix nowadays - the old circuit was butchered in the 80s and the locals are rather touchy about noise levels (grrr!). Given the massive crowds that turn out there I think would be good to have a Dutch GP somewhere.
ezequiel
Oct 10 2009, 18:28
QUOTE (Alfisti @ Oct 7 2009, 02:55)

Jesus those suggesting Bathurst, hope you have a big supply of body bags 'cos you're gonna need them.
LOL... it's just for the fun, let your imagination fly!
johnap
Oct 10 2009, 18:38
QUOTE (Mansell Madgwick @ Oct 8 2009, 16:59)

I don't think Zandvoort would make much of a Grand Prix nowadays - the old circuit was butchered in the 80s and the locals are rather touchy about noise levels (grrr!). Given the massive crowds that turn out there I think would be good to have a Dutch GP somewhere.
With A1GP disappearing they'll have one of their noise weekends free.
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