Exar Kun
Apr 29 2010, 22:58
I haven't tried the split times feature yet - i'm still running ispeed on my little 7" monitor which is working out pretty well. I'm very glad they integrated it though. Grant from iracing mentioned they'd do a bit more development on it now that it's out there and they're getting feedback - one of the first things they will probably do is make it so you can turn off the delta bar at the top separately from the split times at the side.
Nasty McBastard
May 3 2010, 06:31
Ive finally had a play with some other shit and whatever changes they made have gotten me a good 1/2 sec in the mazda @ mosport. T1,2 and the one at the end of the straight were always slight lifts for me, now theyre all flat. The split time thingy has got me some time too.
The vette seems much more.... normal. Itd clicked a bit with me over the last month but was still a tippy-toe kind of car, now you can chuck it around a bit which is sweet.
And I shaved about 3/10ths off my PB at indy in the dallara too, although that was more due to some dudes having a chinwag after a race and I learned a few tricks on the setup.
Yep, tyres on the Mazda are grippier arent they. After getting used to the new tyres and some changes to the setup to match, i was able to go from 1m16s to 1m14s at Mosport. I am liking the tyres heaps more. I can feel the back end sliding now and can even control the car with the rear end now. Before this update as soon as I had any slip angle on the rear I would be around. So me happy.
The split timing system is great. I am now able to go out and match my PB within a lap or two. I am waiting for the season to start to see how it plays out but I feel like i am gaining time with it at every track. It will certainly help me get to my maximum even quicker.
Awesome changes, i am pretty impressed.
Exar Kun
May 3 2010, 22:34
Are you guys going to run the Aussie league on Monday nights in the V8? I'm going to try to commit to a series again this season. I only had 3 or 4 official races last season.
New split timing is great. I really loved what Pete Ness did by giving us iSpeed. But, the new split feature is better for instant gratification. Ispeed is still great for the datamart and other telemetry functions. But woohoo, totally digging the new splits.
Also the V8 is very fun to drive. I haven't been able to push it yet, just some practice sessions with other V8s and the Vettes.
Nasty McBastard
May 3 2010, 23:03
Id love to get into the aussie leagues, but evenings are crap for me atm... might be changing though, so who knows. Its a shame they dont run races on sat or sun arvos, Id be more likely to get races in then. Or even early-ish on fri or sat nights....although Im usualy on the piss by then

I got the shock of my life with the mazda...come out of the pits, cruised through t2 in 4th and woops....lost the back end. WTF? Ive slowly been knocking the front wing down and its all good now. Im not sure how much of the time Ive found has been from pure grip in the corners VS extra speed from the lower wings. Either way, I dont care! And it definately seems more catchable. Im still a little loose in T2, but you can sort it out rather than ending up in the wall. Same with the vette.
Spose itll feck all last seasons setups up though
Exar Kun
May 4 2010, 03:41
Weekends are usually my preferred time to race aswell but if all the guys that i've been running with for years are jumping online together on Monday nights i'll try to make the effort. Going to have to tivo big bang theory though!
pingu666
May 5 2010, 01:34
are there any promo codes around? thinking of trying it out for a month, possibly 3 if its a cheap offer...
had no luck getting a the radical offer :\
Exar Kun
May 5 2010, 03:19
A couple of options:
PR-INRACING code gets you a month at $5
PR-INDY2010 code gets you 3 months plus Indianapolis and the Dallara Indycar for $32
They indycar one is the better deal IMO. It lets you check out something above the base content which, particularly on the road side, is fairly underwhelming.
pingu666
May 5 2010, 04:00
anyone want a refferal?

gonna look through this thread and if i purchase now some random will get it xD, if not....
pingu666
May 5 2010, 13:33
cmon guys, pm me your iracing email address and ill use u as a referal, getcha 10dollars to spend on iracing, right?
pingu666
May 5 2010, 16:29
signed up, downloading it now
Exar Kun
May 5 2010, 22:05
QUOTE (pingu666 @ May 5 2010, 14:00)

anyone want a refferal?

gonna look through this thread and if i purchase now some random will get it xD, if not....
Damnit, I always miss these posts!

Anyway, qualled the Falcon at a 1:32.3 around the Island. The big problem is my set up chews through tyres at an astounding rate. I'm really going to have to back off and change my style to make it through a race.
Right on Ping!! you can add me as a friend over there if you like, Jason King is the name.
Glad to have another member on board.
pingu666
May 6 2010, 01:24
i suck really bad

seems like it takes about 7 laps for me to get okish on the oval, and ive wrecked 3 times by then

. my saftey rating 1.5 now :'(
pingu666
May 6 2010, 19:13
managed to get a second place last night, i enjoyed that, otherwise im not really enjoying it

pissed off at the price of extra cars etc, and the limitedness of whats avalible to race. plus guys being so scared of the saftey rating saying on comms "dont race" basicaly
and i have the feeling ive got to grind my way towards a higher saftey rating which is probably horribly tedious and frustraiting
Exar Kun
May 6 2010, 21:55
If you're crashing that much then you're trying too hard. It took me about 3 races to get my SR over 3.0 when I started and these days I don't have any real trouble maintaining a Pro 2.0 to 4.0 level (what would essentially be a rookie 7.0 to 9.0) and i'm not always thinking about it. Run some time trials - they're a good place to practice without other cars around but still with the 'fear factor' of safety rating in effect so you drive within yourself. Once you're comfortable with the handling of the cars you can get into more racing. ALWAYS qualify - if you're out of position pace wise with those around you then you're more likely to have an accident.
Having said all that - it should be about fun. Slow down a bit, enjoy driving the cars and forget about SR. Just keep it on the road and your SR will jump up in no time.
pingu666
May 7 2010, 00:43
i was trying to race, ive switched too sunday driver mode now, did 8 laps of lime rock time trial without SR event, but my times where pretty slow, and i think i managed a full 20lap race without a problem, got +.19 on my SR for that
was nearly a lap down tho at the end, finished 3rd

also ran some laps at indy in the IRL car which was cool
Nasty McBastard
May 7 2010, 02:59
Bah, missed the referral too. Still, welcome aboard pingu!
Im not gonna say it works for everyone, but Ive always just let SR take care of itself and never REALLY worried about it. I mean sure, if someones looking a bit wild and ragged Ill give them some extra space, or if its going 3 wide Im usually the first one to back out, but thats about it. generally thats the kind of stuff that will get you decent finishes and up out of the bottom splits. Then you need to worry about SR even less. Ive had some bad weeks and lost some chunks, but have never got to the point of being close to demotion and overall was a pretty steady climb up to A. This is all road-side though.
I did something daft today...loaded my road atlanta set for the road america race

Funnily enough it was about the same times, and it was AWESOME in the twisty stuff, but I got murdered down the straights. Watching f3 lose a second on every straight sucked.
Got a 2nd in my first radical race too. wee!
Ive had similar tyre wear dramas with the V8 too, and in my radical race. Id burned them off with about 5 to go. Is this something new in the build? Was the radical always a but of an issue with wear? The Mazda, DP and Skippy all seemed about the same.
EDIT: time trials are awesome for 'grinding' SR. I make it a point to get one in each week for most cars I run. Youll bin it occasionaly and lose SR, but overall I find its a free .02 at A. Doesnt seem much, but TT 3 or 4 cars a week, for 12 weeks and its a free point basically. More at lower licence levels. I use TT's as part of my prac for each track each week anyway, so why not get some SR while youre at it?
Exar Kun
May 7 2010, 03:27
Yeah, TT is a very good way to get a bit of SR - and some good practice too. When I was over 4.0 Pro though I remember I did an inc free TT session and my bloody SR didn't move! I think I was coming off a very good run at the time but as nasty says, usually you'll score a bit and a full half hour on road courses in rookie or D class can net you quite a bit. Treat the car as if you'll really have to pay for it if you break it and you'll find yourself not only gaining SR but also getting more consistent and faster at the same time.
pingu666
May 7 2010, 03:54
ive done a long session of TT > race > TT etc
my road is now 2.52
oval is 1.41 :\
last race i went too wide into turn 1 (again), spun, and two guys scraped along my nose. set off again abit behind, on the hill just after the righthander i slam into someone turning around over the crest after he had spun

I prefer the "racing" which is alot like the early part of a massivly long nascar race, but its real easy to lose SR with random wrecks... most people are good tho,
decided not to run the bottom on the oval aswell, very easy to get loose there
im enjoying it alot more now, its partly because i wanted to race that got me quite frustraited, i think
my name on there is paul menard, so u chaps may aswell add me
Exar Kun
May 7 2010, 06:06
Good point actually - Nasty and Mat - what are your names on there? Chuck us a PM if you'd rather not post in public. I should add you to my friends list so I actually know if i'm in a race with you.

I'm Michael Dunn.
I'm Karl Thoroddsen
I'll add the names I see here later today.
Nasty McBastard
May 7 2010, 14:36
QUOTE (karlth @ May 7 2010, 19:49)

I'm Karl Thoroddsen
I think ive bumped into you without realising it. Name kind of rings a bell as one of those 'bastards whove beat me' people

(you were the guy I was TRYING to hunt down at RA in the mazda today....while driving with the wrong setup)
Hit me up under 'Benjamin Alias'.
MaxScelerate
May 7 2010, 15:47
Have some difficulty finding the time to be online much, but when I'm playing over there (mostly Skip Barbers) I'm running as Alex Fournelle..
QUOTE (Nasty McBastard @ May 7 2010, 07:36)

I think ive bumped into you without realising it. Name kind of rings a bell as one of those 'bastards whove beat me' people

(you were the guy I was TRYING to hunt down at RA in the mazda today....while driving with the wrong setup)
Hit me up under 'Benjamin Alias'.
Ah! Remember you from "Relative screen" from that race

. It was my first Mazda race and its duration sure takes some getting used to after the relatively short Spec Ford races. Good work though keeping up with a wrong setup, that mistake can easily ruin the tires over a race distance.
pingu666
May 7 2010, 22:35
yay, just cracked 3 SR, im at 3.44 now
Exar Kun
May 7 2010, 23:47
Had my first V8 race today - it was a pretty crazy grid. Top 10 in the 1:32s. I started 3rd but had a crap start. Managed to hold onto 4th at least. Things were really close at the front - I was asleep at T4 on lap 4 and the two guys behind me got through so i was down to 6th. Suited me just fine as there was no pressure there. I kept about a 1 second gap to the 5 cars in front who were all nose to tail. 1st place ran a little wide at T4 and dropped all the way to 5th! He got a little impatient trying to get back up there and made contact with 4th place in T2 and managed to sneak through. I was pretty surprised at what happened next though - the dude who had just been tapped just totally turned around the previous leader exiting T4! Total revenge hit, it couldn't have been anything else. So I made a spot there. A few laps later the same dude's engine blew up so I was back into 4th. By this time the leader had made a bit of a break but the guy who initially overtook me was gaining fast - he eventually made the move and took the win which was pretty impressive since he must have started 5th or 6th with a bunch of quick cars in front of him. I was just kicking back looking after the tyres and it paid off - I was able to get by 3rd place on the front stretch and even started gaining on 2nd before I ran out of laps. I was able to turn a high 1:34 on the final lap and still had 58% left on my right front so probably could have pushed harder. Still, 153 points from 3rd place is pretty good! Hopefully I can make the Monday night race.
Great fun these cars are.
pingu666
May 8 2010, 00:07
messy legends race (again) down to 1.37 on oval
pingu, just keep at it. With the legends cars, you really do need to pick your moments to be aggressive. 40 laps is not a short distance and things happen very quickly.
I know it sux to hear but you are much better off driving your own race in the legends. If someone is on your ass, let them through. If you are on someones ass and they wont let you through, back out of it a little and get ready for the eventual mistake. If no mistake comes so be it. Once you are up out of legends you will see a distinct improvement.
Also guys, add me as well - 'Mat Ishac'
Karl, i have raced with you in the Spec Ford but i usually havent seen much more than your gearbox!
pingu666
May 8 2010, 01:12
most of the time its other peoples wrecks :\
ive given up trying to race, really :x
QUOTE (pingu666 @ May 8 2010, 11:12)

most of the time its other peoples wrecks :\
ive given up trying to race, really :x
Yup. The best skill you will learn in legends is accident anticipation and avoidance. Usually staying safe will net you a top 5. Also, at rookie, you should be able to cop 4-18incidents and still see an SR increase. You sometimes will not always be able to keep it going up, but think long term and once you knock off a couple of clean races you will be surprised how much, and quickly, it jumps.
EDIT - another idea, spend lots of time in open practice sessions for legends car. From memory, it was spin city. Its good practice trying to avoid them without SR hit.
pingu666
May 8 2010, 14:20
i did wonder about a SR bot would be funny, just have it follow a white line around the track at 30mph all day xD
need to find a track guide for sumit point, thats tricky in a few places, watched a few hotlaps and people are braking so late into turn 1
Nasty McBastard
May 8 2010, 14:24
Im only a touch out of 1'34s at PI in the V8, and im ending with about mid 70's in tyre wear. I know its giving me some room to push on over a race distance, but Im buggered if I can see how fellas are running 32's. Usual story I guess, its that 2-3 second difference that Im always behind. I still blame setups and not talent

Oh, and id kill my granny for a 150+ points race. I think the best Ive gotten is in the 1teens.
Karlth, that was a pretty decent run for your 1st mazda race! I think I fumbled around about 3rd last and DNFed after 10 laps or so in my first one. And R.America is a LOOOOOONG race in thr mazdas. By the time everything settled down in that race and I knew I was safe from the guy behind, but wouldnt catch you, it was only like lap 9 or something. 25 minutes worth of 'cruising' and just hoping for someone to spin/dnf seems to take ages.
I must have been REALLY lucky in the legends. Besides some bizzare shit like getting rear ended for a 4x before Id even clicked into gear for the pace lap, I had a pretty good time of it. Glad Im out of there though.
Summit Point is a prick of a track, but Ive had good results there. Won in the SRF, should have won in the skippy...Im pretty sure (although i havent tried since the split time thing was put in) that all the major time is in the fiddely shit out the back. T1 can be a bit tricky coz there are some bumps that mess you up a bit when youre trying to get on the power.
pingu666
May 8 2010, 14:35
hmm all the cars and tracks is £304 for me, its pretty crazy :x, would be around £325 without my package
QUOTE (pingu666 @ May 8 2010, 07:20)

i did wonder about a SR bot would be funny, just have it follow a white line around the track at 30mph all day xD
need to find a track guide for sumit point, thats tricky in a few places, watched a few hotlaps and people are braking so late into turn 1

Braking is the last thing you should focus on. First get the racing line and hit all the apexes.
Then late braking is manageable if you gear aggressively down under braking and use the throttle to stabilize the car if the rear starts to slide. It just takes a bit of practice but remember that late braking is useless unless you make the apex as well.
QUOTE (karlth @ May 9 2010, 02:08)

Braking is the last thing you should focus on. First get the racing line and hit all the apexes.
Then late braking is manageable if you gear aggressively down under braking and use the throttle to stabilize the car if the rear starts to slide. It just takes a bit of practice but remember that late braking is useless unless you make the apex as well.
Agreed. Focus on your line, use the split timing system to see where you are losing but focus on hitting apex and getting good exits. There is also a hell of a lot of time to be made by correct line into the last corner so you carry the speed down the straight.
in my opinion anyway
Exar Kun
May 10 2010, 11:02
Aussie league race in the V8s tonight. Insane grid. 1:32.3 put me in 12th! Ended up finishing 11th but I've never been in a race that was so competitive.
http://members.iracing.com/membersite/memb...mp;custid=17938
pingu666
May 11 2010, 15:31
much prefering the lanier oval, keep messing up tho :x, trying to win xD
Nasty McBastard
May 12 2010, 02:53
Just did the DP/rad race at VIR and I thought it would be a total clusterfeck. there were rad guys in the top 5 on legit pace, a mix of qual and non qual, fast guys at the back...not to mention the track, and the fact that the DP's hold up the rads for half a lap, and then the rads hold up the DP's.
Turned out to be an awesome race. Lappers and lapees gave eachother warning/room. Guys would let the opposite class guys through if they were quicker but it wouldnt mess with their 'class' position. Probably the best online race Ive ever had. Based on that a bunch of fellas decided to run the same time each week, and I think Ill be all over that. Good fellas and a guarenteed DP race each week.
Oh, and 3rd DP race ever, top 5 in class, and 0 inc

(got beat by 4 rads though

)
karlth
May 12 2010, 08:46
Went practicing at Sebring yesterday in the Mazda. Sebring is a bit on the wild side for a racing circuit, the first and last turns being extremely difficult to drive but then again rewarding if you get them right.
Had some excellent dicing with Mat who I luckily managed to escape rear-ending on a numerous occasions as I struggled with the brake balance of the setup I was testing. Great fun Mat!
Exar Kun
May 12 2010, 22:14
Sebring is one of those tracks that I find incredibly difficult and I'm usually a fair bit off the pace at. I just hate those bumps!
pingu666
May 12 2010, 22:58
i found the spec ford at lime rock horrible till i turned down the force feedback xD
i have weak/sensitive wrists...
Exar Kun
May 12 2010, 23:35
I've been gradually turning down the FFB ever since starting the game two years ago!
pingu666
May 13 2010, 04:53
frustraiting races
ive now made 20 oval starts, my SR is 2.62
fricking annoying
Exar Kun
May 13 2010, 05:58
I'm sorry to say, but it's not just everyone else's fault if you can't get your SR up far in rookie races. The requirements for rookie SR are incredibly easy. I know the rookie races can be a bit of a minefield but patience and driving within yourself really do pay off. Beyond that, it doesn't take too many time trial sessions to get your SR up either. Get it to 4.0+ and then you can run the Late Model and enjoy much cleaner racing.
Here's a rundown of corners per incident you need to achieve a 3.0 at each license level:
Rookie, 15 CPI over 1125 turns for 3.0 S.R
Class D, 22.5 CPI over 1350 turns for 3.0 S.R
Class C, 33.8 CPI over 1620 turns for 3.0 S.R
Class B, 50.5 CPI over 1944 turns for 3.0 S.R
Class A, 76 CPI over 2333 turns for 3.0 S.R
Pro , 114 CPI over ~2600 turns for 3.0 S.R
The short track ovals are counted as 2 corners per lap which means you're recording an incident at greater than once every 8 laps. Doing a clean time trial will see your rating skyrocket! No need to take chances with those other rookies if you don't want to.
Now, I'd classify myself as pretty inconsistent but I'm still at a Class A 3.4 on oval and a Pro 3.8 on road so with some careful driving it's not too hard to get yourself out of the rut.
Nasty McBastard
May 13 2010, 07:41
I LOVE sebring. Wouldnt say Im any good there, but the place is probably the most comfortable I feel. Even in stuff like the lotus, I just never feel like Im close to losing it, or even dropping a wheel off. Of course I still do, but I bet if you could sort INCs by track itd be my lowest.
And its even more awesome in the 'new' mazda and the grip feels even better than at mosport. I can finally get stuck into sunset, instead of doing a pussy lift/brake tap before turning in, and its almost slidable in that last chicaney thing before the back straight. Knocked about 1/2 sec off my PB in a quick prac session and I reckon I can crack the 2:00 mark.
Loving the vette now too. WG last year I could barely run a lap. Did a race today and my times were only 2 sec off a couple of pro guys. Had a solid race going, 15 laps in, no incs, sitting in 6th...disconnected. Of course, I come back to pad my SR....and binned it.

Cost like 90 iR too...thats like 2 or 3 good races for me.
pingu666
May 13 2010, 17:22
im a ****ing crash magnet
just done a race and got -.05
so time to bore myself shitless doing slow time trials in 5thgear for +10 maybe
pingu666
May 13 2010, 17:53
just ran 30 time trial laps, tapped the wall once
0.03 gain on my SR
yey.
karlth
May 13 2010, 23:48
QUOTE (pingu666 @ May 13 2010, 10:53)

just ran 30 time trial laps, tapped the wall once
0.03 gain on my SR
yey.
SR gains are averaged. You'll probably see a large gain in the next event if you stay clean.
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