Yes, Cliff Bergere is a great example. 30's was not a defining line, there were some active in the 20's as well . Louie Tomei is another. Tomei actually died from injuries suffered during a fight scene for a movie.

Marissa's great grandpa, mayhap?

From what I've been told, apparently no relation

IndyCar back to New Hampshire in 2011.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100628/S...romotes-IndyCar

Indycar might come back to Detroit, Milwaukee, Portland, Michigan, Fontana, Road America, Laguna Seca ...

http://gordonkirby.com/categories/columns/...t_is_no241.html

This Randy Bernard seems to be a big CART fan, looks like we could have the exact same schedule as in the 90's.

Great news, I've longed to see open wheelers at New Hampshire for several years

Any news on the new car?

On a local TV show here in Indy Randy Barnard said July 14th was the date they were shooting for. The "pie in the sky" rumor is they want multiple chassis but it isn't financially viable. So allegedly they are thinking that one manufacturer will make the tub (safety cell) and any other manufacturer can make the rest.

Leguna Seca would be so awesome Shame Surfers will never come back

I'd be thrilled to see Michigan back in the mix. The last IRL race there (2007?) was one of the greatest races I've ever seen. The top six or seven cars were dicing in very close proximity at great speed for the majority of the race. Incredibly tense stuff.

Except for Detroit, I'd love to see those tracks back on the schedule, especially Road America. Laguna Seca isn't great for racing these cars, but it has so much character and history. If Laguna Seca comes back, Infineon would certainly be dropped.

Tks

The Great Brian Barnhart is waiting for the biggest kickback, Dallara comes to mind

Long article...

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/mar...-indycar-rules/

My personal read on the delay from June 30 to July 14 was that Dallara was out of the picture. I think if Dallara was the choice than it would have been announced on time. There would have been nothing further to discuss about logistics and prices, etc. My idea is a new negotiating process is going on with a new supplier and all the legal stuff needs to be ironed out. It would have also given them time if my rumor is correct to see how all the other suppliers would feel about building parts for a ready-made tub. They would also need to come up with a lot of rules based on that tub, wings, wheel to wheel safety, suspension, etc.

Just a little update on this... The Indycar Series will announce thier future car strategy on July 14th this year in Indianapolis. Im very curious on what they decide. I just hope they scrap that Delta Wing concept but I have this bad feeling they will not.

Curt Cavin of the Indy Star weighs in on the new car proposals:

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100701/S...YWGebm0/DJao%3D

Robin Miller @ speed tv with his latest Q & A:

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ind...ers-mailbag-71/

Assume that will pretty much be the end of openwheel racing in the US if they do go for the Deltawing. Also wonder how Indylights will stay relevant if they adopt the Deltawing? Lets hope they hurry up and decide

Indylights isn't relevant. And openwheel racing is dead in the US, I don't see how Deltawing makes it worse. They're in Hail Mary territory as it is.

Deltawing might not make it worse, but seeing as it's not proper open wheeler it will help block of any future rebirth of open wheel racing surely? Is Indylights dead as feeder series these days, do you know if there is any vision is for its furture?

A touch melodramatic, I daresay.

It's being kept artificially alive by wealthy owners, primarily.

If only Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart would have been there...

Ryan Hunter-Reay confirmed for the rest of the season:

http://www.indycar.com/news/show/55-izod-i...full-year-deal/

Greatest news relating to American open wheel drivers for a LONG time Go Ryan, keep it up!

WooT a whole fricking 3 american drivers

JR Hildebrand will be driving the #24 car for Dreyer & Reinbold Racing at Mid-Ohio and Infineon Raceway this year in the IndyCar Series. Mid-Ohio is August 8th and Infineon is August 22nd. They havent announced a driver for Edmonton yet. JR Hildebrand was the 2009 Firestone Indy Lights champion.

Well good for him, though I doubt if the D&R slot is likely to become a regular thing. Seems like a bit of a musical chair at the moment.

I agree. Nothing against JR. But I think once Conway got injured, they should of picked 1 driver and built their program around that driver for the remainder of the season or until Conway returned, whichever was first. My first choice would have been Graham Rahal in that car.

The way things are in IndyCar, it seems driving talent doesn't count for too much. If they make more money playing musical chairs with drivers, they're gonna do that.

But seriously, I think if Hildebrand is ever given a proper shot in IndyCar, he's gonna prove by and large the best American driver in the series. Marco Andretti spent most of an entire season in A1GP racing around the world, with the US team being run by Andretti Motorsports themselves, yet Marco had little to show for it. Last race weekend of the season, they gave JR a shot in the car, and within that *one* weekend, he proved to be head and shoulders better than Marco, getting the US team their first and only podium of the season.

Somebody, please give him a proper shot!

Good for JR...

It was dissappointing to see other Indy Lights drivers - Romancini, Saavedra, Beatrix etc - all get a shot (in some form) in an Indycar before the series champ, especially in a series desperate for some home grown talent...

He was good value at Brands, wasn't he

i think its alot todo with the teams just trying to run a program tbh, they had tracy in for the last race didnt they?, so they are taking in good people

It's not like they hired horrible drivers. Tomas, Graham, and Paul are all very solid drivers, with the first name on the list already employed by D&RR.

Either way, great job JR! Best of luck.

I was really disappointed when Hildebrand failed to land Dale Coyne's Boy Scouts of America ride. It's fantastic that he's finally getting a shot in an IndyCar.

All of the drivers they are hiring a very talented drivers and they're just giving them chances to shine. ALL of the drivers they've had SHOULD be in proper full time rides, so D&RR is using this to build their 'credibility.' (Remember this team had Milka last year?) I think it's great and the rumor is that Rahal is close to a ride with his father for the rest of the season, so that would leave Hildebrand, Tracy, and Scheckter to split time between them. Also, Hildebrand is running at Sonoma/Sears Point/Infineon for D&RR, Conway or not. I believe it was mentioned on the ICS website somewhere.

So the rumors are getting strong here in Indy that it will be Dallara and Lola chosen as chassis supplier. So they placate Haas and the rest. To bad for Swift, I think they put out the best concepts.

Yes, let's choose the two most conventional and boring chassis designs. Typical blunder by this dying organization.

Well we now know that Dallara will still be paying kickbacks to IMS and Lola to Hass, same old shit

Crap -- I was hoping for the Swifts.

FWIW, Lola 2012:

swift had some pretty sweet ideas, hopefully they will be yoinked...

on the delta wing, tis very much a kill or cure, the others wont kill you, but they wont make you a whole lot better either

Approve all of the chassis designs, let the teams decide which they will use.

Is that a crazy or unworkable idea?

Considering the shoestring budgets that 75% of these teams have, it would be suicide.

That looks decent.

The FW end-fences are like 737 end-fences

Much better than that awful batmobile...

Are they going to put a maximum price of chassis and parts? This would be a good idea, at least for the main parts like gearbox, tub, fuel system etc.

Surely Lola and Dallara have agreed very cheap prices, in relation to the pricing that Swift was offering. You'd think that price should be a major part of the equation. GP2 cars are very cheap aren't they? So IRL chassis should be equally cost-effective, unlike the inflated huge prices (I think) for Grand-Am cars even though they are just tube-frames...

I suppose the minor parts will remain free for the likes of Penske to develop?

So having 2 chassis from which to choose is cheaper than having 4? Does having 4 types of laundry detergent make them more expensive than 2? Wouldn't more competition force prices down?

I'd still love to see all 4 of the options coming down the track racing one another...even the batmobile.