They moved the Ferrari badge on the side to a funny place!

Yep there is a lot of white, doesn't look that bad ( I though Santander colours were red!?) but it doesn't look like a classic Ferrari livery either.

You never see a black winged Ferrari (black and yellow was the color of Agip) while Shell is sponsoring Ferrari.
So, forgert about those black wings, it won't happen.

Does Massa needs to be worried if so much sponsership this year comes from Santander?

Not necessarily, Santander is also interested in dilate its shares on the Brazilian market.

Very poor representation of the Santander sponsorship in my opinion. The white front and rear wings do no justice to the brand or the image of Ferrari. The car should be all red to start

Red on white usually looks a bit tacky. If they reversed the colours of the wings and had white on red, it would be an instant improvement.

It looks like it's dragging a fridge

Surely it would!
But it'd make Santander invisible on the car. So...

It looks as though Alonso and Massa will be driving a mobile 'building society' this year.

Lets hope the car does not suck poo this year. Steaming pile of poo...

yeah but thanks to the red over white livery we've been talking about Santander for 3 or 4 pages. That's what they want, not another red Ferrari but something that takes the attention of the spectator even if it's uglier than white over red.

True.

And its really not *that* horrible. Not pretty, but I think some people are just exaggerating a bit here due to the 'first impression' syndrome.

But Santander has been the main sponser of Alonso, not Massa?

Thought it was pretty bad looking when i first saw it, but its not that bad really. I actually kind of like it now.

Maybe the livery will look better on the new chassis than it does on the F60. I think I really most dislike the way the rear wing looks. The white is most offensive on that part of the car. If they could have just toned that down a little it wouldn't look so bad. Even red stripes or a red detailing on the rear wing (instead of just a block of white with the word Santander) would have been better.

Sure.

http://www.ferrari.com/English/News/Pages/...l_training.aspx

"New" engine tested then .

They should have kept the lower plane of the rearwing red, and perhaps also the standarized (lower) plane of the front wing. That would have been so much better..!

http://images.gpupdate.net/large/143971.jpg

Narrower front tyres?

No. Santander is the main sponsor of Ferrari, (as well as McLaren). In Brazil, they will use Massa, in Spain they will use Fernando, and in the UK they will use Lewis and Jenson.

Yeah, narrower front tyres. Ferrai said that in his own site: "...Felipe concluded the training with the single-seater - [b]fitted with demo tyres due to the current rules - after over 400 kilometres."[/b]

I think that rather means "we have to use demo tyres because normal slicks are not allowed". Coincidentally demo tyres share same size as 2010 slicks and are harder than 2009 slicks... as tyres this year (not that much, but still) .

Im not sure what mean by the word "main" but as far as i know Marlboro is still the main sponsor of Ferrari. They just sold some advertising space to Santander (and quite a lot).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFbjW9lNUIo...player_embedded

Good interview, thanks. Maybe I'll translate a bit later if people are interested(?) He speaks very fluent Italian, this will help him a lot with the home fans.

Please do. I my Italian is virtually non exsistant but I could tell he was very fluent.

I would be thankful if you could translate it!

that car he is driving is , the most pretty and agressive model ive seen in many years from ferrari,

http://www.fast-autos.net/vehicles/Ferrari...8_Italia/1.html

Yeah I noticed when Massa and Alonso had a little argue after the race of Germany in 2007

Full video here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQMxt8dNpoE

He's very much talking about family, the reds. This interview should go down very well with the Ferrari fans.

Here is a translation of the full video posted by steferrari for you.

J: Valentino Rossi says he's calm and slow outside the race track. How about you?

FA: No! I always go fast. Everything in my life is fast. It's always programmed. Even breathing I breath fast!

J: On Fiorano race track, aboard Ferrari Italia. Have you ever dreamed of this when you were young?

FA: Ferrari and Formula One was way too far for me. In Spain we didn't even see F1 races on TV when I was a kid! But now, this is an intense feeling to be with Ferrari.

J: The merit should go down to your sister. Shouldn't it?

(laughs)

FA: True. The first karting that my dad built, he made it for my sister. She was not too pleased with it. So, he tried with me and there started the real passion. So I have to thank my sister for the opportunity to try out karting when I was only three years old.

Jouranalist: What do you expect from this season with Ferrari?

FA: For the team, it's almost an obligation to win. Even I feel that responsibility – this obligation, as you might call it. But we're all cool about it. We hope to win – and beat Schumacher who is now one of our rivals.

J: What trait of character do you hate in others people, what gets on your nerves?

FA: To me honesty is something very important. At times in the past I have had some problems with it. I can't think I could ever be failing to tell the truth at all times. I prefer that everyone tells me the truth at all times, than knowing that I have people around me whom I can't trust.

J: What's your main trait of character?

FA: It's not always easy to open myself to new people, new experiences.

J: What would you change in your personality?

FA: I'm very competitive and when things don't run smoothly, I tend to lose it.

J: How about when you fail to win?

FA: That gets on my nerves. I'm angry with myself. I can spend days not speaking to myself.

(Laughs)

J: I hear you were quite good at imitating people. Is that true?

FA: "Quite good" - I don't know, but I like to do it. I do that with friends or with the group when I feel at ease, when I feel like family, in a relaxed atmosphere. I like to joke, I like to imitate people.

J: I won't ask you to imitate anyone, because you wouldn't do it. But, what is the famous person that you most like to imitate. Is it Schumacher?

FA: Within the F1 world, that would be Bernie Ecclestone.

(Laughs)

FA: Some other time, allright?

J: When were you last happy?

FA: That would be a couple of days ago at Madonna di Campiglio when I officially became a Ferrari driver, when I first wore the official Ferrari shirt and cap. I had a great feeling. I felt the emotion of being part of "La Rossa".

J: When did you last feel sad?

FA: I was very sad this past August when I lost my Grand Mother with whom I grew up. I spent a whole month feeling the loss, I couldn't cope without her. She will always be missed.

J: Could you tell us about the first time you received a call from the King of Spain?

FA: That was in 2003. I got the call. He's a real fan. He watches all the races. He knows it all. He talks about strategy, soft tires, hard tires…

J: Who's the person that most helps you?

FA: It's always my dad. He's always there. I always have a chat with him because he's right 99% of the time.

J: So one day you came up to him and said you were going to drive for Ferrari…

FA: That is what he had been advising me to do for a very long time…

J: Valentino Rossi once told me that when he saw himself riding he was impressed with the speed…

FA: Yes. That is true. We, drivers, when we're inside the car we always feel like we're going slowly. Then a day, I had a mechanical failure. I just stood there in a curve, watching the other cars pass by. And watching my buddies drive by I felt "these guys are crazy". But once again, when inside the car, you have a totally different point of view.

J: How about now a lap of Fiorano with Alonso doing an Alonso?

FA: A fast one?

J: A fast one!

(smiles)

(a bit later)

FA: This car is awesome.

J: Do you know Schumacher fine tuned it?

FA: Yes I know. He's done a great job. This is a genuine race car for sale.

Thank you very much, bonneville!

The car launch is almost upon us and the only "information" that we have is the f2010 livery and lots of PR stuff. Man i miss AFCA so much ...

[u]"J: What would you change in your personality?

FA: I'm very competitive and when things don't run smoothly, I tend to lose it.

J: How about when you fail to win?

FA: That gets on my nerves. I'm angry with myself. I can spend days not speaking to myself. [/u]


very interesting insight by fernando of his character. I wonder if in the car her felt like in 2007 i love to listen to the radio that season LOL

http://www.marca.com/2010/01/22/motor/form...1264168637.html

According to Marca.com, these are the budget figures of Ferrari for 2010:
Total guestimation Euros $300M.

Marlboro $100M
Santander $40M
Shell $30M
Abu Dhabi $30M
Acer $10M
+
Variable Pay
FIAT $120M [$20K x 6.000u] [20k per street Ferrari unit sold ???]
FOM $50K [5 years of TV Rights ? $50M ?]
FiA ??? [Championship Standings]

The article is very strange, specially at the Variable Pay part.

Bullsh**t.

Just to get back to the livery. I don't remember seeing these photos here (they might have thou, I'm not perfect).
From side picture, it looks pretty much the same than last year. Not so much Santander after all

Side picture: http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2938/nuev.jpg

Front picture: http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2046/nuevo1s.jpg

Boneville did a summarization, not a translation, but its's ok

I'm Spanish, but Italian is understandable for us, feel free to correct anything:

Q: What do you dislike, what would you change? [About your personality]
A: I'm a very competitive person, when things don't go well, I go into crisis mode because of anything.
Q: When you lose
A: [Alonso interrupts] When I lose I go very angry
Q: [Interrupts] But with yourself?
A: Yes, with myself, I spend days without talking to myself. [laughs]
Q: But you [I don't understand this, about keeping something]
A: [laughs] Yes, [repeats it].

FIAT = $0, LdM says so

Do Santander banking with Ferrari Business?

Pardon me, I don't understand your Q.

I heard that Santander is going to launch some affinity credit card w/ Ferrari.
It alone must raise a lot of money worldwide.

still no rumors about the new car. Ive never seen a pre season Ferrari thread this quiet.

It will be also quiet in Maranello in 2 days:

http://ferrarif1forum.com/2010/01/26/photo...ferrari-launch/

But yeah, I miss infos from AFCA .

Thanx your answer saved a lot of my time.

I was thinking if Santander agree to be the bank of Ferrari...

thanks i didnt know, well that actually makes me even more excited about the launch, if they have something to hide.

Thanx for the Alonso's vid!

I knew he is fluent in Italian but have never really heard him talk so I was a bit suprised how fluent he is...

And the 458 is just magnificent piece of ingeneering. When he unleashed it a bit at the end I had jizz in my pants...