With all the drama of the Brazilian GP I think it's easy to forget that Mark Webber scored a very excellent second victory.

Great run.

Awesome drive, but not a single front page shot on any website I've looked at.

Webber was the man today, unbeatable.

Kinda felt sorry for him in a way. Produces one of the best drives of his career and slips completely under the radar due to a certain Mr Button clinching the drivers' championship!

Great way of coming back from the iffy part of his season where he's (surprisingly) scored zero points since Hungary.

It will be in the sports sections in Australia.

Perhaps some where after the more interesting 20/20 cricket.


The first win was obviously bigger news, this was simply a ho-hum win. (That appears to upset Raikkonen fans same fans who thought Raikkonen's deliberate KERS assisted off the track overtakes in Spa were fair )

Great drive. Too bad he was a little too agressive with the line changing at the back straight on the first lap. Kobayashi-like.

My 2 favorite drivers both won today.

Mark the race and Jenson the WDC.

Hopefully there will be a few more wins for Mark in the future.

Key point is first lap.

If overtakers are allowed to drive extra-aggressive then, well defenders are also allowed to drive extra-aggressive then.

Trouble is, defenders whose names begin with H and end with amilton get penalized for going slightly wide.

Amazing job, was the the fastest man all day.

We're all so conditioned by political penalties.

If anything is to blame it is those monster front wings which don't allow people to get close.

Raikkonen should have known better.

That was a sweet win by Webber, even though his trophy which was partly made out of recycled plastic was a bit rubbish.

The defender can only change his line once. But may I ask, what was so agressive from Kimi?

Webber also got punished in Germany for bumping into Rubins on the start.

Sorry double post.

It was a great drive, but I do think he'd have had more recognition for it if he hadn't made that late double move on Kimi. What he said about it shows he knew it was over the line, and on top of that if Kimi had got past him, as he was set to, then how would his race have panned out?

I think I saw it in one of those pier machines. For 10p you could use it to try to grab a trinket.

He was behind and on the inside. He would have to brake later starting from further back going into a tighter curve to make the move.... a very marginal desperate move.

Webber only has to make room if Kimi was clearly along side, which he was not.

Keeping kimi at bay was vital, this is a sport of inches. Franklhy I think Kubica almost had him for pace but there were three keys to victory. A) Webber managed to squeeze into Q2 on a wet track whereas vetel did not. b) he pulled a great lap with a heavyish car in Q3 and C) he kept kimi at bay which led to Kubica and RB being stuck behind a squabbling mid field whilst Webber came out in front of it all and pulled a HUGE lead after the first stop.

Game of inches man.

You're bringing back bad memories.

I plouged 20 squids worth of 10p coins into one of those grappling hook games down Brighton last year.

At stake: A stuffed Zippy for my bird.

I left empty handed...

Webber has not only won two races this season, but won two races in which he not only dominated the race, but indeed the entire weekend with pace in every session that was untouchable by anyone, including his teammate in the same car.

Even though he technically should have been in "support Vettel" mode if the situation had presented itself, the truth is that his career was essentially on the line this weekend. He's had a poor second half of the season since Valencia, partially due to ragged driving and partially due to the typical Mark Webber bad luck. The rumors of Red Bull dumping him for Raikkonen started popping up in the vacuum of the Valencia-Suzuka span, and even if this ultimately wasn't going to happen, he at the very least needed to produce a big result on a circuit where Red Bull should go very well to keep on terms with Vettel on the count of status within the team for next season. He delivered with aces.

Sounds a fair bargain.

It was pretty far before the corner. He first went to the middle of the track. Then when he saw Kimi coming from the left, he cut him off.

Kimi had more momentum going than Webber.

Yep one of the best wins of the year by Webber. His two wins have both been excellent and not trouble free at the starts. Really earned them both and destroyed the entire field.

Him and Massa should get together for a commiseration Caiprinha. They both know how it feels to destroy the field at Interlagos only for people to be watching the guy down in 5th take the title

To be honest, i was gunning for a Rubens win this weekend. I dont know where Rubens will end up next year, be it still at Brawn or at Williams perhaps, but he may not be in as strong a position for his home race ever again, especially starting from pole. Needless to say, i'm hardly going to complain that Webber won as i'd hate to see him end the season with just the solitary win whilst Vettel has already scored 3 in what has been an otherwise closely fought season between the 2.

isn't rubens confirmed at williams? have to say, it was hilarious to see his family in the pit garage - he's a clone of his dad!

congrats to MW, a strong and dominant race. he's no longer a one-hit wonder!

Um check this out... identical move in the same spot

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x247yh_f1...contact-br_auto

No penalty that time either.

Wasn't Kimi all the way in the grass when he hit Webber?

I don't think it effected Webbers race so it wasn't too bad.

If Kimi is still interested or at least his manager I see no reason why RedBull wouldn't take him and push Mark into the second team. Kimi is younger, probably faster in race trim and more relevant to the RedBull and Vodka European trendset. Still may happen in my opinion, and I would not be surprised if this did happen to see Mark with Robert at Renault.

http://www.sportinglife.com/formula1/news/...ese_Webber.html

Webber is a hypocrite. Nice straight talker and a good driver, but still a hypocrite.

Well done Webber! Capped off a great day for Aussie motorsport!

I'm just watching a replay of the race and noticed Kimi had a puncture on his left-rear tyre as well as the broken front wing. My best guess is he got this from the contact with Sutil at the first corner. It's got me wondering if Kimi only hit Webber in the first place because he couldn't slow the car down properly due to this puncture?

Anyways, it's all moot. I've seen way more aggressive defending than that that's gone unpunished.

Nah he was just telling the Noob to pull his head in a little, he mentioned it was ok for Vetrans as they know what they are doing, Mkay, Hammy was a nooblet then Mkay.....

Well, we know that Helmut Marko spoke with him and his manager in the Ferrari motorhome, and Helmut answers directly to Dietrich. So if this is coming from corporate...

I'm sure if it was between going to Toro Rosso or leaving Red Bull completely, he would take "leave Red Bull completely." He's now a proven grand prix winner. Surely, plenty of teams would be interested in having him. Renault, for one.

McLaren would likely be interested in taking him on for a season or two until they can have a go at a younger driver. (I.E. Vettel, Hulkenberg, Kubica, etc.) He'll have good enough pace to get the best out of Hamilton and will help tremendously in the WCC fight.

I`m really surprised that Webber didn`t get no penalty for ruining Kimis race. That`s wrong...

Kimi ruined his own race.

Its one of Marks greatest weaknesses overall, he isn't relevant to a European market, he isn't Casey Stoner or Mick Doohan or racing in a series that also has as massive Asian interest (Doohan was huge in Asia). I can't see him at McLaren, don't know why I think he just wouldn't fit in, to rough around the edges for the McLaren image. I pick Renault or maybe Toyota because Renault I sense will want to get back to no nonsense racing and forget all the drama queen garbage thats been there for some time.

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wrong, Schuiscum only moved once. Webber the hypocritical phallus moved twice.

F**k Webber and his cheating win.

How dare Webber get run into by Kimi then go on to win I say!!



Kimi hit him before he ever got to the grass.. from behind.

Calling it a cheating win is pathetic. An unfortunate racing incident yes.

It's called - mirrors & brain usage.

Next time your bearing down to a corner at 300kmh, tell me how much free time to compose a full thesis on how to react while trying to defend your position.


Now im not a Webber fan, but im not a hater either. Its just over the top to call the guy a cheater. Drilling a renault into a wall to help your team mate.. thats cheating. This is racing.

u dont have the complete picture at all seeing only from behind...see this and watch this from 2:18 onwards

webber had acres to space on his right..thats just webber suddenly moving right in front of kimi to block him...simple as that.

Im pretty sure the entire point of him moving was to block Kimi. Thats what he gets paid to do.. to race.

Its a roundabout argument, we could do this for days.

No shit Sherlock.


And ruining other driver's race by not anticipating where the other driver is when being in a sleepstream?

The BBC coverage of Webber's victory was terrible. It was all Button Button Button!

Not even a shot of the three podium cars arriving in the winner's area from memory, let alone the winner jumping out and acknowledging his victory.

The BBC don't control that part of the coverage, it is the FOM world feed.

Personally I thought they got the balance right.

Can't recall this level of contrived outrage when Kimi hit Sutil (whichever time you are thinking of).

yes,all of them defend when underattack .

but u have to realize there is a difference b/w covering the racing line going into a corner or anticipating whether to take the inside or outside line to block someone and what webber did.
u cant just weave left and right so late on a straight especially with the cars doing such speeds.u might as well also allow throwing objects at fellow drivers form behind cuz that is kind of ''blocking'' too.

Hard to anticipate much when you are sleeping I guess.