QUOTE (potmotr @ Oct 21 2009, 13:42)

True, but for Badoer at least that means being publically humiliated.
Why do you consider Badoer was publically humiliated? Because you say so? Because some stupid journalists say so? Well, he has been driving for Ferrari for a long time, which is something a lot of people would love (for me it would be a dream come true). That is the reason why I will never consider him as a loser. Maybe it is true that driving for Ferrari does not make you a winner, but it is a great achievment itself, something that neither I nor you will achieve in our lives.