QUOTE (ReAlien @ Oct 30 2009, 02:01) 
You want to make my life dull? 
Nope. Let's start supporting Fred.
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Nope. Let's start supporting Fred.
QUOTE (Ijsman @ Oct 29 2009, 17:34)
He enjoys the driving the most ofcourse. And maybe the second thing he enjoys the most are the grid-girls? 
Don't forget his love for ice cream.
It is obvious Kimi wants to remain in F1, so long as he is winning, so I can't imagine he would leave a winning seat without locking in another.
QUOTE (Odvan @ Oct 30 2009, 03:07)
Nope. Let's start supporting Fred.
Over my dead body...
At least it looks like McLaren will be the better car again so everything is going well for Kimi
http://www.ts.fi/f1/uutiset/84608.html#at
Kimi's latest and exclusive interview with Heikki Kulta in today's TS edition.
- Its Mclaren or nothing in F1.
- They are negotiating with McLaren and the deal depends on many "small" things. He is ready to make compromises but he will not sign the contract he doesnt like.
- Hamilton is "irrelevant" in his negotiation with McLaren. He doesnt care who drives the second car.
- He doesnt even speaks with Toyota or his managment. Its their story.
- Robertsons are doing their job and Kimi is the one who will make the decision in the end. Its all about him and getting contract he wants.
- He wants to have freedom in his new contract so he can do rallying.
Kimi's latest and exclusive interview with Heikki Kulta in today's TS edition.
- Its Mclaren or nothing in F1.
- They are negotiating with McLaren and the deal depends on many "small" things. He is ready to make compromises but he will not sign the contract he doesnt like.
- Hamilton is "irrelevant" in his negotiation with McLaren. He doesnt care who drives the second car.
- He doesnt even speaks with Toyota or his managment. Its their story.
- Robertsons are doing their job and Kimi is the one who will make the decision in the end. Its all about him and getting contract he wants.
- He wants to have freedom in his new contract so he can do rallying.
QUOTE (JamesHunt @ Oct 30 2009, 00:17)
http://www.ts.fi/f1/uutiset/84608.html#at
Kimi's latest and exclusive interview with Heikki Kulta in today's TS edition.
- Its Mclaren or nothing in F1.
- They are negotiating with McLaren and the deal depends on many "small" things. He is ready to make compromises but he will not sign the contract he doesnt like.
- Hamilton is "irrelevant" in his negotiation with McLaren. He doesnt care who drives the second car.
- He doesnt even speaks with Toyota or his managment. Its their story.
- Robertsons are doing their job and Kimi is the one who will make the decision in the end. Its all about him and getting contract he wants.
- He wants to have freedom in his new contract so he can do rallying.
Kimi's latest and exclusive interview with Heikki Kulta in today's TS edition.
- Its Mclaren or nothing in F1.
- They are negotiating with McLaren and the deal depends on many "small" things. He is ready to make compromises but he will not sign the contract he doesnt like.
- Hamilton is "irrelevant" in his negotiation with McLaren. He doesnt care who drives the second car.
- He doesnt even speaks with Toyota or his managment. Its their story.
- Robertsons are doing their job and Kimi is the one who will make the decision in the end. Its all about him and getting contract he wants.
- He wants to have freedom in his new contract so he can do rallying.
imo the "small" things are probably pr and the amount of days kimi can go rallying
Great info. I think one way or another Mclaren will be with Merc engines at least next two years.
QUOTE (Callisto @ Oct 30 2009, 04:39)
imo the "small" things are probably pr and the amount of days kimi can go rallying
Hamilton is good at the pr talk and Kimi in the rallying so the workload should be ok for both
As long as Mclaren dont pay him more then hami i welcome him back. I actually prefer a lot less, and then a bonus pr point or something like that.
QUOTE (JamesHunt @ Oct 30 2009, 01:17)
http://www.ts.fi/f1/uutiset/84608.html#at
Kimi's latest and exclusive interview with Heikki Kulta in today's TS edition.
- Its Mclaren or nothing in F1.
- They are negotiating with McLaren and the deal depends on many "small" things. He is ready to make compromises but he will not sign the contract he doesnt like.
- Hamilton is "irrelevant" in his negotiation with McLaren. He doesnt care who drives the second car.
- He doesnt even speaks with Toyota or his managment. Its their story.
- Robertsons are doing their job and Kimi is the one who will make the decision in the end. Its all about him and getting contract he wants.
- He wants to have freedom in his new contract so he can do rallying.
Kimi's latest and exclusive interview with Heikki Kulta in today's TS edition.
- Its Mclaren or nothing in F1.
- They are negotiating with McLaren and the deal depends on many "small" things. He is ready to make compromises but he will not sign the contract he doesnt like.
- Hamilton is "irrelevant" in his negotiation with McLaren. He doesnt care who drives the second car.
- He doesnt even speaks with Toyota or his managment. Its their story.
- Robertsons are doing their job and Kimi is the one who will make the decision in the end. Its all about him and getting contract he wants.
- He wants to have freedom in his new contract so he can do rallying.
Is Byron Young a legit source? He claims the announcement will come on Sunday:
http://twitter.com/byronf1/statuses/5271086487
http://twitter.com/byronf1/statuses/5271086487
QUOTE (sleenster @ Oct 30 2009, 01:11)
Is Byron Young a legit source? He claims the announcement will come on Sunday:
http://twitter.com/byronf1/statuses/5271086487
http://twitter.com/byronf1/statuses/5271086487
i think it depends on the SOME SAY bit,which is a bit vague
I wonder what Ron thinks of the concessions McLaren would have had to make?
QUOTE (sleenster @ Oct 30 2009, 01:11)
Is Byron Young a legit source? He claims the announcement will come on Sunday:
http://twitter.com/byronf1/statuses/5271086487
http://twitter.com/byronf1/statuses/5271086487
An he's now just said:
Jenson Button reveals: "I'm not afraid to be a teammate to anyone in F1" as McLaren rumours continue to circulate
21 minutes ago from web
QUOTE (mey3059 @ Oct 29 2009, 19:22)
Whitmarsh dropped the first hint when he made a comment like
' Alonso's move to Ferrari is going to have an effect on the drivers market .... '
that day ... everyone was more keen on proving the Alonso - Ferrari story .
only a few wondered what effect does Alonso's move to Ferrari make on Mclaren's driver lineup .
' Alonso's move to Ferrari is going to have an effect on the drivers market .... '
that day ... everyone was more keen on proving the Alonso - Ferrari story .
only a few wondered what effect does Alonso's move to Ferrari make on Mclaren's driver lineup .
You must be a genius. Ofcourse Mclaren was waiting what Ferrari was going to do and see if Kimi becomes available. That's been known for ages now
Question now is if Kimi is prepared to take a big cut in salary
QUOTE (JamesHunt @ Oct 30 2009, 01:17)
http://www.ts.fi/f1/uutiset/84608.html#at
Kimi's latest and exclusive interview with Heikki Kulta in today's TS edition.
- Its Mclaren or nothing in F1.
- They are negotiating with McLaren and the deal depends on many "small" things. He is ready to make compromises but he will not sign the contract he doesnt like.
- Hamilton is "irrelevant" in his negotiation with McLaren. He doesnt care who drives the second car.
- He doesnt even speaks with Toyota or his managment. Its their story.
- Robertsons are doing their job and Kimi is the one who will make the decision in the end. Its all about him and getting contract he wants.
- He wants to have freedom in his new contract so he can do rallying.
Kimi's latest and exclusive interview with Heikki Kulta in today's TS edition.
- Its Mclaren or nothing in F1.
- They are negotiating with McLaren and the deal depends on many "small" things. He is ready to make compromises but he will not sign the contract he doesnt like.
- Hamilton is "irrelevant" in his negotiation with McLaren. He doesnt care who drives the second car.
- He doesnt even speaks with Toyota or his managment. Its their story.
- Robertsons are doing their job and Kimi is the one who will make the decision in the end. Its all about him and getting contract he wants.
- He wants to have freedom in his new contract so he can do rallying.
Well, that's going to be a problem if he wants to do rallying. Mclaren are very protective of their drivers participating in other sports.
edit: Or maybe it's different now that Ron is gone?
QUOTE (Bianchimont @ Oct 30 2009, 00:07)
Over my dead body...
At least it looks like McLaren will be the better car again so everything is going well for Kimi
At least it looks like McLaren will be the better car again so everything is going well for Kimi
If we've learnt anything this year it's that winning in the best car over the year automatically rules you out of becoming a worthy WDC.
QUOTE (Peter Perfect @ Oct 30 2009, 08:27)
If we've learnt anything this year it's that winning in the best car over the year automatically rules you out of becoming a worthy WDC.
Driving like a chump, being outqualified for the last 9 races by your teammate, being beaten consistently by your teammate and being beaten by other drivers in worse cars that he was driving makes Jenson a very poor WDC
Courtesy of Wolfie
QUOTE
ONLY A CONTRACT THAT PLEASES KIMI WILL GUARANTEE HIS CONTINUANCE IN F1
Turun Sanomat 30.10 2009 00:39:50
In the latest exclusive interview Turun Sanomat had with Kimi Räikkönen he doesn't draw too big lines but let's understand that his will to continue in F1 is as hard as it was when he signed with the now terminated contract with the Italian team for 2010.
At what point are the negotiations with McLaren?
– The contract depends on so many factors. It will be made if I get a contract that pleases me. There are many small things, Räikkönen said.
Are you prepared to make compromises in these negotiations?
– Of course some compromises can be made but it makes no sense to do something you don't have to do. It leads nowhere.
Do these negotiations have some time schedule?
– I don't have any time schedule but of course all the teams have their own time schedule. I am not in a hurry here. There is no shortage of time before something should happen.
You said a while ago in the international press conference that it's McLaren or nothing?
– Yup. It makes no sense to go to another F1-team. I have nothing going on with Toyota even though they say that we negotiate. We haven't talked with them. It's completely their own story.
What about Lewis Hamilton? They say that McLaren has grown around him after your departure?
– Hamilton doesn't have any meaning in this case. These open things have nothing to do with Lewis. For me it's all the same who drives the other car there.
How important part in the negotiations is the freedom to drive rally on your free time?
– I will get that freedom. It's not up to that.
David and Steve Robertson are your managers. How much do they decide for you?
– Whatever I do next year is completely my own decision. Nobody has any influence in it. The Robertson's do what they have to do. In the final games it's me who makes the decision. It just has to be a contract that pleases me. Nothing else matters.
I'm sure you will move on to rally someday. What kind of car would you get from rally for next season?
– I don't know. Of course I would have to learn it but it's good if you have immediately the best car. It's not cool to drive bad cars. The truth still is that wherever I go it takes time before I learn it completely.
– At the moment there are a few top cars in WRC. Two factory teams and they have their own number two cars in the private teams. In principle it's going to change a lot after a year when the 2000's along with a lot of new teams are coming.
What about the talks from Ferrari that you would consider keeping a year off?
– I am going to do something next year for sure. Whatever happens. I have all kinds of options of what I can do. I just don't have the energy to go through them with you until I know what is going to happen here.
What kind of feelings do you have towards Ferrari when the co-operation doesn't end in the way you would have wanted it to end?
– I really don't have any feelings towards them. And I haven't got anything against Ferrari. This just has been a time that I'm sure is great to look back to when I'm old.
What is your relationship with Jean Todt?
– We have a good relationship. He has got nothing to do with me leaving. It was with him I made the contract back in the time. Jean is a great guy - just like most of the others at Ferrari.
The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least.
Mark Webber torpeded you off the track on the first lap in Brazil and claimed that you would have done the same in a similar situtation. Would you have drove in front of a competitor in the same way?
– I don't have the energy to argue with anyone. It leads nowhere.
What about the fire on the pitlane? How close was it that you would have jumped out of the car and retired?
- At first I thought to do so but then the fire went out and I saw from the mirrors that it wasn't on fire anymore. It wouldn't have made any sense to stop there. I got some gas in my eyes and it burned for a long time but it didn't matter.
Turun Sanomat, Abu Dhabi
HEIKKI KULTA
Turun Sanomat 30.10 2009 00:39:50
In the latest exclusive interview Turun Sanomat had with Kimi Räikkönen he doesn't draw too big lines but let's understand that his will to continue in F1 is as hard as it was when he signed with the now terminated contract with the Italian team for 2010.
At what point are the negotiations with McLaren?
– The contract depends on so many factors. It will be made if I get a contract that pleases me. There are many small things, Räikkönen said.
Are you prepared to make compromises in these negotiations?
– Of course some compromises can be made but it makes no sense to do something you don't have to do. It leads nowhere.
Do these negotiations have some time schedule?
– I don't have any time schedule but of course all the teams have their own time schedule. I am not in a hurry here. There is no shortage of time before something should happen.
You said a while ago in the international press conference that it's McLaren or nothing?
– Yup. It makes no sense to go to another F1-team. I have nothing going on with Toyota even though they say that we negotiate. We haven't talked with them. It's completely their own story.
What about Lewis Hamilton? They say that McLaren has grown around him after your departure?
– Hamilton doesn't have any meaning in this case. These open things have nothing to do with Lewis. For me it's all the same who drives the other car there.
How important part in the negotiations is the freedom to drive rally on your free time?
– I will get that freedom. It's not up to that.
David and Steve Robertson are your managers. How much do they decide for you?
– Whatever I do next year is completely my own decision. Nobody has any influence in it. The Robertson's do what they have to do. In the final games it's me who makes the decision. It just has to be a contract that pleases me. Nothing else matters.
I'm sure you will move on to rally someday. What kind of car would you get from rally for next season?
– I don't know. Of course I would have to learn it but it's good if you have immediately the best car. It's not cool to drive bad cars. The truth still is that wherever I go it takes time before I learn it completely.
– At the moment there are a few top cars in WRC. Two factory teams and they have their own number two cars in the private teams. In principle it's going to change a lot after a year when the 2000's along with a lot of new teams are coming.
What about the talks from Ferrari that you would consider keeping a year off?
– I am going to do something next year for sure. Whatever happens. I have all kinds of options of what I can do. I just don't have the energy to go through them with you until I know what is going to happen here.
What kind of feelings do you have towards Ferrari when the co-operation doesn't end in the way you would have wanted it to end?
– I really don't have any feelings towards them. And I haven't got anything against Ferrari. This just has been a time that I'm sure is great to look back to when I'm old.
What is your relationship with Jean Todt?
– We have a good relationship. He has got nothing to do with me leaving. It was with him I made the contract back in the time. Jean is a great guy - just like most of the others at Ferrari.
The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least.
Mark Webber torpeded you off the track on the first lap in Brazil and claimed that you would have done the same in a similar situtation. Would you have drove in front of a competitor in the same way?
– I don't have the energy to argue with anyone. It leads nowhere.
What about the fire on the pitlane? How close was it that you would have jumped out of the car and retired?
- At first I thought to do so but then the fire went out and I saw from the mirrors that it wasn't on fire anymore. It wouldn't have made any sense to stop there. I got some gas in my eyes and it burned for a long time but it didn't matter.
Turun Sanomat, Abu Dhabi
HEIKKI KULTA
QUOTE (hello86 @ Oct 30 2009, 08:12)
Courtesy of Wolfie
No-one does interviews like Kimi. "I have all kinds of options of what I can do. I just don't have the energy to go through them with you until I know what is going to happen here."
Greetings from Nitpickers Anonymous! That "I don't have the energy to do shit" bit is an overly literal translation. The spirit of his statement wasn't that he's too lazy/tired to answer the question(s) but that there's no point in discussing plan B until after the F1 situation (plan A) has been resolved.
Couretsy of Wolfie provided us also with the first-hand information about how untrue the myth about F60 falling behind due to non-existent development the competitors are:
"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
GC
"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
GC
QUOTE (kismet @ Oct 30 2009, 09:07)
Greetings from Nitpickers Anonymous! That "I don't have the energy to do shit" bit is an overly literal translation. The spirit of his statement wasn't that he's too lazy/tired to answer the question(s) but that there's no point in discussing plan B until after the F1 situation (plan A) has been resolved.
Oh absolutely. I just love the attitude, totally anti-bullsh*t, you can ask the question if you like and I might answer, or not
. But if he does answer it will be the simple truth.
QUOTE (Colombo @ Oct 30 2009, 10:15)
Couretsy of Wolfie provided us also with the first-hand information about how untrue the myth about F60 falling behind due to non-existent development the competitors are:
"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
GC
"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
GC
Colombo: 581 posts in 2 months > 98% of them bashing KR = no life or KR banged his girl
QUOTE (Fallout @ Oct 30 2009, 00:23)
Make threads questioning the validity of his contract with McLaren.
Or speculate how long it will take for Santander to buy out his contract.
QUOTE (Ploert @ Oct 30 2009, 01:56)
or KR banged his girl
Do you think that's actually possible.
QUOTE (undersquare @ Oct 30 2009, 13:22)
Oh absolutely. I just love the attitude, totally anti-bullsh*t, you can ask the question if you like and I might answer, or not .
But if he does answer it will be the simple truth.
. But if he does answer it will be the simple truth.
Also this bit:
"Mark Webber torpeded you off the track on the first lap in Brazil and claimed that you would have done the same in a similar situtation. Would you have drove in front of a competitor in the same way?
– I don't have the energy to argue with anyone. It leads nowhere."
Like, how many other drivers would give that answer? I'm certain that every other driver would have an "attitude" over the incident and at least give some comment, rather than just dismiss it like that.
"We just got the car changed in the way I wanted"
QUOTE (Colombo @ Oct 30 2009, 13:15)
Couretsy of Wolfie provided us also with the first-hand information about how untrue the myth about F60 falling behind due to non-existent development the competitors are:
"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
GC
"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
GC
Didn't see that one coming!The car is what it is, but you can always maximise your chances if others don't, that's what it was all about. After qualifying, where they got a good result and others fumbled, why not? But of course in your world F60 was always the dominant car this season, at least as long as Kimi got any results with it.
QUOTE (JamesHunt @ Oct 30 2009, 14:22)
"We just got the car changed in the way I wanted"
Shhh, don't tell Colombo. That car is DOMINANT, nothing to do with... whatever.
QUOTE (JamesHunt @ Oct 30 2009, 03:17)
They are negotiating with McLaren and the deal depends on many "small" things.
Knowing Kimi it could be some small 30 millions bucks things.
QUOTE (Oho @ Oct 30 2009, 11:19)
Do you think that's actually possible.
You're right.
I meant mom!
QUOTE
ONLY A CONTRACT THAT PLEASES KIMI WILL GUARANTEE HIS CONTINUANCE IN F1
Turun Sanomat 30.10 2009 00:39:50
In the latest exclusive interview Turun Sanomat had with Kimi Räikkönen he doesn't draw too big lines but let's understand that his will to continue in F1 is as hard as it was when he signed with the now terminated contract with the Italian team for 2010.
At what point are the negotiations with McLaren?
– The contract depends on so many factors. It will be made if I get a contract that pleases me. There are many small things, Räikkönen said.
Are you prepared to make compromises in these negotiations?
– Of course some compromises can be made but it makes no sense to do something you don't have to do. It leads nowhere.
Do these negotiations have some time schedule?
– I don't have any time schedule but of course all the teams have their own time schedule. I am not in a hurry here. There is no shortage of time before something should happen.
You said a while ago in the international press conference that it's McLaren or nothing?
– Yup. It makes no sense to go to another F1-team. I have nothing going on with Toyota even though they say that we negotiate. We haven't talked with them. It's completely their own story.
What about Lewis Hamilton? They say that McLaren has grown around him after your departure?
– Hamilton doesn't have any meaning in this case. These open things have nothing to do with Lewis. For me it's all the same who drives the other car there.
How important part in the negotiations is the freedom to drive rally on your free time?
– I will get that freedom. It's not up to that.
David and Steve Robertson are your managers. How much do they decide for you?
– Whatever I do next year is completely my own decision. Nobody has any influence in it. The Robertson's do what they have to do. In the final games it's me who makes the decision. It just has to be a contract that pleases me. Nothing else matters.
I'm sure you will move on to rally someday. What kind of car would you get from rally for next season?
– I don't know. Of course I would have to learn it but it's good if you have immediately the best car. It's not cool to drive bad cars. The truth still is that wherever I go it takes time before I learn it completely.
– At the moment there are a few top cars in WRC. Two factory teams and they have their own number two cars in the private teams. In principle it's going to change a lot after a year when the 2000's along with a lot of new teams are coming.
What about the talks from Ferrari that you would consider keeping a year off?
– I am going to do something next year for sure. Whatever happens. I have all kinds of options of what I can do. I just don't have the energy to go through them with you until I know what is going to happen here.
What kind of feelings do you have towards Ferrari when the co-operation doesn't end in the way you would have wanted it to end?
– I really don't have any feelings towards them. And I haven't got anything against Ferrari. This just has been a time that I'm sure is great to look back to when I'm old.
What is your relationship with Jean Todt?
– We have a good relationship. He has got nothing to do with me leaving. It was with him I made the contract back in the time. Jean is a great guy - just like most of the others at Ferrari.
The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least.
Mark Webber torpeded you off the track on the first lap in Brazil and claimed that you would have done the same in a similar situtation. Would you have drove in front of a competitor in the same way?
– I don't have the energy to argue with anyone. It leads nowhere.
What about the fire on the pitlane? How close was it that you would have jumped out of the car and retired?
- At first I thought to do so but then the fire went out and I saw from the mirrors that it wasn't on fire anymore. It wouldn't have made any sense to stop there. I got some gas in my eyes and it burned for a long time but it didn't matter.
Turun Sanomat, Abu Dhabi
HEIKKI KULTA
Turun Sanomat 30.10 2009 00:39:50
In the latest exclusive interview Turun Sanomat had with Kimi Räikkönen he doesn't draw too big lines but let's understand that his will to continue in F1 is as hard as it was when he signed with the now terminated contract with the Italian team for 2010.
At what point are the negotiations with McLaren?
– The contract depends on so many factors. It will be made if I get a contract that pleases me. There are many small things, Räikkönen said.
Are you prepared to make compromises in these negotiations?
– Of course some compromises can be made but it makes no sense to do something you don't have to do. It leads nowhere.
Do these negotiations have some time schedule?
– I don't have any time schedule but of course all the teams have their own time schedule. I am not in a hurry here. There is no shortage of time before something should happen.
You said a while ago in the international press conference that it's McLaren or nothing?
– Yup. It makes no sense to go to another F1-team. I have nothing going on with Toyota even though they say that we negotiate. We haven't talked with them. It's completely their own story.
What about Lewis Hamilton? They say that McLaren has grown around him after your departure?
– Hamilton doesn't have any meaning in this case. These open things have nothing to do with Lewis. For me it's all the same who drives the other car there.
How important part in the negotiations is the freedom to drive rally on your free time?
– I will get that freedom. It's not up to that.
David and Steve Robertson are your managers. How much do they decide for you?
– Whatever I do next year is completely my own decision. Nobody has any influence in it. The Robertson's do what they have to do. In the final games it's me who makes the decision. It just has to be a contract that pleases me. Nothing else matters.
I'm sure you will move on to rally someday. What kind of car would you get from rally for next season?
– I don't know. Of course I would have to learn it but it's good if you have immediately the best car. It's not cool to drive bad cars. The truth still is that wherever I go it takes time before I learn it completely.
– At the moment there are a few top cars in WRC. Two factory teams and they have their own number two cars in the private teams. In principle it's going to change a lot after a year when the 2000's along with a lot of new teams are coming.
What about the talks from Ferrari that you would consider keeping a year off?
– I am going to do something next year for sure. Whatever happens. I have all kinds of options of what I can do. I just don't have the energy to go through them with you until I know what is going to happen here.
What kind of feelings do you have towards Ferrari when the co-operation doesn't end in the way you would have wanted it to end?
– I really don't have any feelings towards them. And I haven't got anything against Ferrari. This just has been a time that I'm sure is great to look back to when I'm old.
What is your relationship with Jean Todt?
– We have a good relationship. He has got nothing to do with me leaving. It was with him I made the contract back in the time. Jean is a great guy - just like most of the others at Ferrari.
The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least.
Mark Webber torpeded you off the track on the first lap in Brazil and claimed that you would have done the same in a similar situtation. Would you have drove in front of a competitor in the same way?
– I don't have the energy to argue with anyone. It leads nowhere.
What about the fire on the pitlane? How close was it that you would have jumped out of the car and retired?
- At first I thought to do so but then the fire went out and I saw from the mirrors that it wasn't on fire anymore. It wouldn't have made any sense to stop there. I got some gas in my eyes and it burned for a long time but it didn't matter.
Turun Sanomat, Abu Dhabi
HEIKKI KULTA
Sounds like a man at peace with himself unlike most people including those that don't like or respect him.
I would suggest that those who post senseless, attacking "contributions" against him should just be quietly ignored. That I think would have been KIMI's reaction.
QUOTE (Colombo @ Oct 30 2009, 05:15)
Couretsy of Wolfie provided us also with the first-hand information about how untrue the myth about F60 falling behind due to non-existent development the competitors are:
"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
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"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
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I agree that the car got better. They did stop developing it, but clearly they have done a lot of work on setups to maximize it.
With that said, you've got to admit that Raikkonen's driving has in fact improved starting in Hungary. He had the last updates on the car at the Nurb, and while he had engine problems in the middle of the race, we didn't see anything like his spirited starts at Hungary and Spa or his undeniable awesome race pace in the time in which the car didn't have a problem during that race. He's clearly been a different driver.
Furthermore, Raikkonen has something to do with the car performing better. He's the one responsible for giving feedback to the engineers. It sounds to me like he's done a great job giving them feedback and getting the changes to the car that he wants, and the team has done a great job of responding to his feedback.
I wouldn't at all say the F60 has been an outstanding car this year. It undeniably improved, starting in Spain and with the upgrade at Silverstone/Nurb. The BGP-001 and RB5 have clearly been ahead of it all year, and McLaren really transformed the MP4-24 with their developments and vaulted ahead, as well. Like the MP4-24, it's been good on technical circuits that require mechanical grip and underbody downforce under braking (which both teams have improved with their DDDs) as well as circuits requiring horsepower (Ferrari and Mercedes engines, KERS), but it's been relatively weaker on circuits- or at least sectors of circuits- with serial quick, sweeping corners. Both the MP4-24 and F60 were horribly off in Sector Two at Spa- about a second off the RB5 (best overbody downforce, which is key for the quick corners). The difference in Raikkonen squeezing into Q3 and Hamilton missing it was down to Raikkonen getting a good lap and Hamilton not doing so; otherwise, the differences between the two cars at Spa were nil.
"Jean is a great guy -.just like most of the others at Ferrari." I wish Heikki Kulta had asked the same about Domenicali 
Mark Webber torpeded you off the track on the first lap in Brazil and claimed that you would have done the same in a similar situtation. Would you have drove in front of a competitor in the same way?
– I don't have the energy to argue with anyone. It leads nowhere.
Mark Webber torpeded you off the track on the first lap in Brazil and claimed that you would have done the same in a similar situtation. Would you have drove in front of a competitor in the same way?
– I don't have the energy to argue with anyone. It leads nowhere.
QUOTE (maccaFTW @ Oct 30 2009, 16:29)
I agree that the car got better. They did stop developing it, but clearly they have done a lot of work on setups to maximize it.
i think it has more to do with the setups suiting kimi.maybe thats what u mean too by saying ''maximized''.after massa's injury ,the only logical way to go was to make sure the setup characteristics were closer to what kimi wanted...i have no idea what was the problem in the earlier half of the season...not saying kimi underperformed at the start of the season,he was much more comfortable with the car as compared to 08(that again being more related to the rule changes with wider fronts etc suiting his style rather than ferrari developing their car to his liking) but we certainly saw the old kimi during the later half.
interesting that u mentioned spa..cuz whitmarsh commented post race that kimi's S2 imes were remarkable considering the car he was driving..to me spa was an unbelievable grandprix.hes been putting the car in places it doesnt belong.period.
on a separate note,the article posted in the ferrari 2010 thread mentions ferrari are going to revert to the open no.1 driver policy with massa playing the wingman.yes its speculation but its been posted by the admin of the site ,so hes knows more than we do on the issue.theyre also reportedly trying to hire the services of alonso's engineers back at renault
QUOTE (meat @ Oct 30 2009, 11:45)
"Jean is a great guy -.just like most of the others at Ferrari." I wish Heikki Kulta had asked the same about Domenicali
Mark Webber torpeded you off the track on the first lap in Brazil and claimed that you would have done the same in a similar situtation. Would you have drove in front of a competitor in the same way?
– I don't have the energy to argue with anyone. It leads nowhere.
Mark Webber torpeded you off the track on the first lap in Brazil and claimed that you would have done the same in a similar situtation. Would you have drove in front of a competitor in the same way?
– I don't have the energy to argue with anyone. It leads nowhere.
I kept wondering who were the exceptions to the great guys in Ferrari
QUOTE (Ploert @ Oct 30 2009, 10:56)
Colombo: 581 posts in 2 months > 98% of them bashing KR = no life or KR banged his girl
Both me and my "girl" (wife) are too old for Kimi.
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QUOTE (maccaFTW @ Oct 30 2009, 12:29)
I agree that the car got better. They did stop developing it, but clearly they have done a lot of work on setups to maximize it.
With that said, you've got to admit that Raikkonen's driving has in fact improved starting in Hungary. He had the last updates on the car at the Nurb, and while he had engine problems in the middle of the race, we didn't see anything like his spirited starts at Hungary and Spa or his undeniable awesome race pace in the time in which the car didn't have a problem during that race. He's clearly been a different driver.
Furthermore, Raikkonen has something to do with the car performing better. He's the one responsible for giving feedback to the engineers. It sounds to me like he's done a great job giving them feedback and getting the changes to the car that he wants, and the team has done a great job of responding to his feedback.
I wouldn't at all say the F60 has been an outstanding car this year. It undeniably improved, starting in Spain and with the upgrade at Silverstone/Nurb. The BGP-001 and RB5 have clearly been ahead of it all year, and McLaren really transformed the MP4-24 with their developments and vaulted ahead, as well. Like the MP4-24, it's been good on technical circuits that require mechanical grip and underbody downforce under braking (which both teams have improved with their DDDs) as well as circuits requiring horsepower (Ferrari and Mercedes engines, KERS), but it's been relatively weaker on circuits- or at least sectors of circuits- with serial quick, sweeping corners. Both the MP4-24 and F60 were horribly off in Sector Two at Spa- about a second off the RB5 (best overbody downforce, which is key for the quick corners). The difference in Raikkonen squeezing into Q3 and Hamilton missing it was down to Raikkonen getting a good lap and Hamilton not doing so; otherwise, the differences between the two cars at Spa were nil.
With that said, you've got to admit that Raikkonen's driving has in fact improved starting in Hungary. He had the last updates on the car at the Nurb, and while he had engine problems in the middle of the race, we didn't see anything like his spirited starts at Hungary and Spa or his undeniable awesome race pace in the time in which the car didn't have a problem during that race. He's clearly been a different driver.
Furthermore, Raikkonen has something to do with the car performing better. He's the one responsible for giving feedback to the engineers. It sounds to me like he's done a great job giving them feedback and getting the changes to the car that he wants, and the team has done a great job of responding to his feedback.
I wouldn't at all say the F60 has been an outstanding car this year. It undeniably improved, starting in Spain and with the upgrade at Silverstone/Nurb. The BGP-001 and RB5 have clearly been ahead of it all year, and McLaren really transformed the MP4-24 with their developments and vaulted ahead, as well. Like the MP4-24, it's been good on technical circuits that require mechanical grip and underbody downforce under braking (which both teams have improved with their DDDs) as well as circuits requiring horsepower (Ferrari and Mercedes engines, KERS), but it's been relatively weaker on circuits- or at least sectors of circuits- with serial quick, sweeping corners. Both the MP4-24 and F60 were horribly off in Sector Two at Spa- about a second off the RB5 (best overbody downforce, which is key for the quick corners). The difference in Raikkonen squeezing into Q3 and Hamilton missing it was down to Raikkonen getting a good lap and Hamilton not doing so; otherwise, the differences between the two cars at Spa were nil.
F60 was by no means an outstanding car. Overall it did not make the top 3 this year. But it was an OK car, more-less like Peterson's March in 1976, for example.
What happened in the last few months is that, just as you wrote, the team understood it and sorted it perfectly and managed to exploit its strengths on tracks suited to the car (here I have that little theory that the ban on development may be useful to some teams as usually they simply change things on the car too quick and too often and never find the time to test them and tune them in properly).
I must emphasise here that even I
was impressed by Räikkönen's form in the second part of the year and that he did a very good job. The circumstances forced Ferrari to do their best with what they had and I must say that Räikkönen rose to the occasion.But that is exactly a part of the problem I have with him: why isn't he always or almost always on the mark like that? You and the rest of the BB can be assured I would have regarded him very differently had he stamped his authority at Ferrari like Schumacher did. Maybe I'm just like Ferrari people - expecting the impossible, the new Schumacher in the team.
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QUOTE (Colombo @ Oct 30 2009, 17:16)
even I
was impressed by Räikkönen's form in the second part of the year and that he did a very good job. The circumstances forced Ferrari to do their best with what they had and I must say that Räikkönen rose to the occasion.GC
I'll save this in my heart forever....
QUOTE (grunge @ Oct 30 2009, 17:02)
on a separate note....
totally unrelated to Kimi in 2010? .. is it not?
QUOTE (Taxi @ Oct 30 2009, 16:20)
I'll save this in my heart forever....
I try to give credit where it's due
Last year I was very disappointed and wanted him out of Ferrari. Things started to change only after Spa this year but I still wanted Alonso instead.
But I repeat that I never wanted Räikkönen out of F1, I would like him to finalize his McLaren deal.
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QUOTE (hello86 @ Oct 30 2009, 04:12)
Courtesy of Wolfie
I love Kimi and his personality. Awesome interview.
QUOTE (Ploert @ Oct 30 2009, 09:56)
Colombo: 581 posts in 2 months > 98% of them bashing KR = no life or KR banged his girl
None of the above. He's just a frustrated Felipe Massa fan that will never accept the fact that Felipe Massa will never be a WDC! I really pity this guy... Probably he's Brazilian, so...
AFAIK, he is not.
QUOTE (Colombo @ Oct 30 2009, 20:16)
But that is exactly a part of the problem I have with him: why isn't he always or almost always on the mark like that? You and the rest of the BB can be assured I would have regarded him very differently had he stamped his authority at Ferrari like Schumacher did. Maybe I'm just like Ferrari people - expecting the impossible, the new Schumacher in the team.
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in light of yer more ''reasonable'' comments lately,id like to remind u that
the whole ferrari team was designed to provide schumi what he wanted...he was a politically dominant personality who knew what he wanted and knew how to get it...getting a car to suit the faster driver isnt necessarily a bad thing..shumi's teammates would never have been totally comfortable in a car that was always suited to shumi's style..ud remmeber berger crashing everywhere because he couldnt handle the ''nervous'' front end that schumi(and kimi) wanted.but that was the logical thing to do because schumi took that car to places no one ever could no matter how much it suited their styles.
Hirohide Hamashima, Bridgestone's director of motorsport tyre development:
" Basically the Ferrari (F2008) has more of a tendency to understeer than the McLaren (MP4-23). The McLaren is a little bit oversteery. When the tyre has good grip, the car with the oversteer tendency will be quicker over a single lap than a neutral or understeering car.
kimi was never allowed to showcase what he could achieve.
ferrari expeced him to probably stand up and get his demands delivered aka schumi..but thats not kimi's nature..while u can argue that kimi shouldve been more vocal,more damanding on getting what he wanted,ferrari shouldve also realized that this controlling behaviour was never kimi's nature.
yes u are right in saying that ferrari expected someone to take the place of schumi,be the demanding leader that the later was..but kimi was never going to be that.someone that alonso has all the traits to me.
mark hughes.
Kimi was a very different animal from Michael, of course. Their working methods were diametrically opposed. Michael pushed the team, made demands of them. Kimi just turned up and did his – frequently devastating – stuff and the team sort of pulled what they needed from him. But that was okay, they felt. They could work with that – so long as he was delivering.
With Schumacher they had built up a very sophisticated way of working and for Raikkonen's arrival they trimmed that right back and set about building it up from basics, expecting that process to take most of the first season. They were amazed, therefore, with his instant grasp of everything and how he was at Michael levels of understanding even before the season began. Even today, they will tell you that his understanding and ease with the massive array of functions available on the car is fantastic and that, if anything, he plays with them even more than Michael did.
They were also amazed at his ease with oversteer. So it was more than a little unfortunate that they had developed over the years a car/tyre combination that was prone to understeer, especially on new tyres. It was a trait that Kimi's team-mate Felipe Massa was very at ease with. He could maintain huge momentum despite the understeer, though was much less at ease with fast-corner oversteer. The combination of this car, these tyres and the current mix of corners on the calendar suited Massa's style rather more than Raikkonen's.
The Ferrari lineage of cars had been developed over the years to be kind on the tyres. That objective would have driven a series of design decisions over that time. One of the concomitant traits of doing that is a car that understeers on new rubber.
At this point Raikkonen needed to take the initiative, be more Michael-like in his demands. But that's not in his nature. He tells them what he needs, then shrugs if they can't deliver it. When your team-mate is going faster than you, such an attitude understandably generates a few question marks.
So Ferrari decided they did, after all, need a leader. It was time for di Montezemolo to play hardball again. Fernando Alonso will do all the things Kimi didn't. But he will bring challenges that neither Kimi nor Michael ever did. That's the story of the next relay stint.
in the end u wanted kimi out of ferrari and so did i/others....all of us got our wishes fulfilled..now u can live in peace too.
QUOTE (Colombo @ Oct 30 2009, 09:15)
Couretsy of Wolfie provided us also with the first-hand information about how untrue the myth about F60 falling behind due to non-existent development the competitors are:
"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
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"The endseason's results have surprised even Ferrari. How much of will to show has there been?
– Well it most certainly has nothing to do with a will to show. We just got the car changed in the way I wanted. We were quite good earlier but the car just wasn't good enough. When it was improved it started to go better.
Your race engineer Andrea Stella said that the car was as competitive in Interlagos as it was in Monaco in the spring.
– Yup. If we would have had more luck we could have even fought for the victory. I don't know if I could have matched Red Bull's speed but we would have come in 2nd at least."
GC
Dude, all he means is they optimyzed the package that they had at hand, and that he liked it, he still says they weren't fast enough.
The thruth of the matter is that, whatever last update they had, they've managed to extract enough of to perform as well they have, nothing more, nothing less.
From MTV3:
- I hope we have a Finnish speaker in the team next year. We are in close relations with two Finnish drivers at the moment. Let's see, Whitmarsh says to MTV3.
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtm.../2009/10/986629
- I hope we have a Finnish speaker in the team next year. We are in close relations with two Finnish drivers at the moment. Let's see, Whitmarsh says to MTV3.
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtm.../2009/10/986629
QUOTE (OSX @ Oct 30 2009, 17:27)
From MTV3:
- I hope we have a Finnish speaker in the team next year. We are in close relations with two Finnish drivers at the moment. Let's see, Whitmarsh says to MTV3.
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtm.../2009/10/986629
- I hope we have a Finnish speaker in the team next year. We are in close relations with two Finnish drivers at the moment. Let's see, Whitmarsh says to MTV3.
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtm.../2009/10/986629
Mika Hakkinen coming back?
He hopes? Like Heikki's threatening to leave or something?
...a quote from another forum:
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on Speed TV Peter Windsor said he think Kimi will be out of F1 and that he all but said so when they talked yesterday....
I think the exact quote was "Kimi came as close as he could without saying he will not race F1 anymore"
I think the exact quote was "Kimi came as close as he could without saying he will not race F1 anymore"
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