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MinT
Raikkonen has never been the most motivated guy on the grid - since winning the wdc its been obvious to all but the diehards that his heart isnt 100% in it. I dont blame him, if he would rather be the cool dude than throw everything at driving then that is his decision.

He had the good fortune to do a very good deal in getting the boot from Ferrari which has now put him in a money first situation. No team ( I doubt even Merc) are going to pay the type of money he needs to break even on the deal, let alone exceed it. The only way he might get it is if Merc are so annoyed at losing Button and being landed with Rosberg as lead driver that they panic and splash the cash they say they havent got.
VresiBerba
QUOTE (metz @ Nov 19 2009, 20:39) *
Seems German fans want Kimi in the Mercedes.

AMuS poll today:

Q: Which driver should fill the empty Mercedes seat?

Kimi Räikkönen ....71%
Nick Heidfeld .......23%
Robert Kubica .......6%
Heikki Kovalainen ..1%

Gareeeeeth!
WebBerK
QUOTE (MinT @ Nov 20 2009, 16:20) *
Raikkonen has never been the most motivated guy on the grid - since winning the wdc its been obvious to all but the diehards that his heart isnt 100% in it. I dont blame him, if he would rather be the cool dude than throw everything at driving then that is his decision.

Guys, have you ever heard of Adam Smith, Faiol and the Labour Division.

Engineers project the car and build it, Drivers drive and the Cheerleader Cheer.

Kimi is motivated enough to DRIVE the car.
Don't blame him if Domenico - that lazy bastard - wants to transfer his duties to Kimi.
Kimi wasn't the one to suggest using KERS in 2009.
Sausage
Just say goodbye to Kimi, no topteam will have him for 2011 like he wants. They are all better off investing in talent they have or new. Like Mika's "sabbatical", beside if he enjoys wrc he might not want to be back anyway
The Ragged Edge
Guys it might be time to accept the fact Kimi Raikkonen is gone from F1. You can rehash all the reasons why, blame the Robertsons, blame Ron Dennis, Blame Button, even blame Kimi. Have whatever reason at hand, but IMO he bought this all on himself. Kimi F1 career looks to be over. "The king is dead, long live the king" If the sport can continue and viewing figures rise with the loss of Schumacher. Then the sport will definitely survive without the Ice-Man.

Regards Edge!
Craven Morehead
QUOTE (Wolfie @ Nov 20 2009, 12:55) *
LOL - This is really wearing out when not knowing which direction Kimi is heading for.

From the Finnish forum, a guy put into words his feelings lol.gif

Compliments to Mikael up.gif

I was so angry at Alonso and Santander that I had already bought tickets to Milan, rented a car and got myself a Glock from the black markets and was ready to go to the Ferrari-party to express my opinion. I also sold my Ferrari-red satin suit. I had to plan the thing carefully and believe me it took weeks. In the end I wasn't sure to whom I would say hello first, Montezemolo, Alonso or the guys from Santander if I would only recognise them.

At Milan airport I wondered about Berlusconi's face in the Italian news in the café's television. I was clearly in the right country. But after that news Kimi Räikkönen's face said hello to me - the same face that I had left behind me at home, the ad sheet that was as high as my walls that I bought after Silverstone - and the news told with some Italian mumble something from which I recognised the words McLaren.

In the internet-café, with the handle inside my trousers, the news penetrated my bullet-vest. Kimi had milked top dollars from Ferrari and was now heading to McLaren or maybe RedBull - to take revenge on those latino traitors. I couldn't go through with my plan because I didn't know what papers still were to be signed. In the taverna which was filled with Tifosi and where I wouldn't have dared to go without my bullet-vest I noticed that almost everyone of them were angry at Monte. They wanted Kimi, not Alonso. That serves them right - they don't deserve the Iceman I thought. After the ice melted in my vodkaRedBull my intentions melted too and I decided to change my plans. Let them suffer in their mid-pack starting positions.

I bought an old Mercedes and headed towards London. I was sure that I could confirm the team switch there. I was at the French Riviera, almost where Kimi lived, when I understood from the British paper that Mercedes is leaving the team that will hire Kimi, McLaren. Now I was torn between two - or three. Should I put pressure on RedBull - at least i would never drink it again. Should I take revenge on Mercedes - is McLaren's interest and money big enough without the Germans? I immediately drove my Mercedes in to the ocean, left Redbull in case I would want to do something later and headed towards London.

RedBull would be good I thought on my way. A great car and great drinks, laid-back atmosphere and rally would also be ok. I could if nothing else would turn up - deal with Webber. Brawn I don't know - but Kimi would do well there too. Tough choices.

I was closer to the Atlant when the news got me. I did the right thing. Kim's only choice is McLaren and RB can be forgotten. I'll deal with Haug later - he bought Brawn. But in the rush in London, when the old Vauxhall I 'borrowed' started to create problems, my life fell into the disgusting gutter in that big town. Right there with the fish sticks and the lard. Kimi is quitting. Negotiations are over. At least one sabbatical year ahead. Breakdown. British drivers for the Brits, German drivers to Mercedes.

Nothing matters. With the Glock against my temple I looked at my TV-plus -card (we need to buy those to see F1) I thought that I would first say goodbye to the F1-world and all other irrelevant matters. My money was stolen in Soho, as was my boyhood - yet my mood was gloomier and gloomier and the solution was inevitable.

I don't remember the street but I sat on the third dumpster and covered myself with a newspaper so that there would be no mess. I was searching for the safety button, button, button. The street light came right through the newspaper - just like in the movies - while I was looking at my life as a film. In the newspaper Kimi was smiling in the picture (sport section) and Haug was standing beside him.

HAAA! Kimi goes to Merc. My will of living tore me up from the garbage and I felt how a fresh wind took me to another road while a piece of bacon fell from my ear. Thanks to the Glock I got money to go home. On the boat I smiled along with the stars while the fresh and courageous seawind from Germany was blowing. The Northern Star was calling - I was frozen but related to the Iceman.

I was already near Helsinki. No - I didn't throw the Glock into the sea. First I would have to read the morning papers.


fantastic clap.gif lol.gif up.gif Very creaive and a great read.
Mungo Fangio of the Year
HAHAHA!


Everybody! Read this!


1. Kimi does what he wants; fans just HOPE he continues in F1

2. Kimi in WRC; WOW, that would be so cool, but still, decision is Kimi's

3. Kimi takes sabbatical (might be end of career), he still is one of most
succesful modern F1 drivers and he has huge fanbase


Any choice there is is Kimi's, not ours, and that is as it should be!
GIBF1
QUOTE (Craven Morehead @ Nov 20 2009, 18:51) *
fantastic clap.gif lol.gif up.gif Very creaive and a great read.


You almost feel for the bloke

Although i've no idea what use Timo would of been lol.gif
OfficeLinebacker
QUOTE (Odvan @ Nov 20 2009, 09:51) *
How this guys couldn't be friends anymore?



Friendship isn't the determining factor in this scenario.
Mia 01
QUOTE (craftverk @ Nov 20 2009, 16:19) *
Raikkonen will NOT be at Mercedes next year. He'll get more money if he takes a sabbatical, plus he'll be able to do some rallies and I have no doubt that Mercedes would be more restrictive in regards to that.

You guys are really sounding desperate, don't get your hopes up.


You sounds familiar, are you a member of moore boards?
Craven Morehead
QUOTE (GIBF1 @ Nov 20 2009, 18:59) *
You almost feel for the bloke

Although i've no idea what use Timo would of been lol.gif


Yeah, I loved the choice of the 'Glock' and also searching for the Button, button, button. lol.gif
Mia 01
QUOTE (MinT @ Nov 20 2009, 19:20) *
Raikkonen has never been the most motivated guy on the grid - since winning the wdc its been obvious to all but the diehards that his heart isnt 100% in it. I dont blame him, if he would rather be the cool dude than throw everything at driving then that is his decision.

He had the good fortune to do a very good deal in getting the boot from Ferrari which has now put him in a money first situation. No team ( I doubt even Merc) are going to pay the type of money he needs to break even on the deal, let alone exceed it. The only way he might get it is if Merc are so annoyed at losing Button and being landed with Rosberg as lead driver that they panic and splash the cash they say they havent got.


Probably they will pay him moore than FA gets from Ferrai next year.
Mia 01
QUOTE (The Ragged Edge @ Nov 20 2009, 19:48) *
Guys it might be time to accept the fact Kimi Raikkonen is gone from F1. You can rehash all the reasons why, blame the Robertsons, blame Ron Dennis, Blame Button, even blame Kimi. Have whatever reason at hand, but IMO he bought this all on himself. Kimi F1 career looks to be over. "The king is dead, long live the king" If the sport can continue and viewing figures rise with the loss of Schumacher. Then the sport will definitely survive without the Ice-Man.

Regards Edge!


This could be perfectly wrong.
Oracle
If I were Kimi I would make a deal with Mercedes

I'd drive for pocket money - 1 million € for season 2010

Then I'd have justified bonuses

1 million € per race victory
10 million € extra for the WDC
1 million € extra if Mr. Brawn or Mr. Fry are behaving like dorks and proved to be dorks
1 million € extra if something comes aloose from my car and hits somebody else's head
10 million € If it hits my head
1 million extra if Keke Rosberg steps into myside of the pit garage
300.000 € extra if Keke Rosbergs shaddow touches my shadow at the pitlane
2ms
QUOTE (The Ragged Edge @ Nov 20 2009, 12:48) *
Guys it might be time to accept the fact Kimi Raikkonen is gone from F1. You can rehash all the reasons why, blame the Robertsons, blame Ron Dennis, Blame Button, even blame Kimi. Have whatever reason at hand, but IMO he bought this all on himself. Kimi F1 career looks to be over. "The king is dead, long live the king" If the sport can continue and viewing figures rise with the loss of Schumacher. Then the sport will definitely survive without the Ice-Man.

Regards Edge!


By "brought this upon himself" you're referring to how he turned down a contract from McLaren after opting to get payed to not drive next year? I think we all pretty much already knew that but thanks for making sure.
Mia 01
If the rumour was thrue, that MacLaren offered Kimi 5 Million (Lewis earnes 22 a year).

I say, congrats Jenson. Hope you perform better than Heikki, but I´m not so sure.
maccaFTW
I've got to think Merc will give Kimi an offer.

We'll see if he takes it. If he's serious about getting a top car, then he should take the Merc seat.

Also, if the reports of what Brawn/Merc offered Button are true (8 million GBP, with 4 million more in incentives), then I don't see why they shouldn't be able to offer Kimi something in that neighborhood. That reportedly would be higher than what McLaren offered Kimi, and Merc wouldn't have the advantage of having another WDC on the market they can go to.
kismet
IF Mercedes wants Kimi, I think they're going to get him. Basically, he wasn't planning on taking a sabbatical and if they make him a reasonable offer he can accept without losing too much face, he's going to sign. Because he wants to.
Mia 01
QUOTE (kismet @ Nov 20 2009, 21:03) *
IF Mercedes wants Kimi, I think they're going to get him. Basically, he wasn't planning on taking a sabbatical and if they make him a reasonable offer he can accept without losing too much face, he's going to sign. Because he wants to.


Right on the nail.

Deep inside I think Kimi is thrilled by the Mercedes offer.

And, don´t forget, he wants to put Ferrai, and now, MacLaren down.

If he gets the seat, Mercedes will make him the biggest in F1.
Sammyosammy
QUOTE (Oracle @ Nov 20 2009, 20:17) *
If I were Kimi I would make a deal with Mercedes

I'd drive for pocket money - 1 million € for season 2010

Then I'd have justified bonuses

1 million € per race victory
10 million € extra for the WDC
1 million € extra if Mr. Brawn or Mr. Fry are behaving like dorks and proved to be dorks
1 million € extra if something comes aloose from my car and hits somebody else's head
10 million € If it hits my head
1 million extra if Keke Rosberg steps into myside of the pit garage
300.000 € extra if Keke Rosbergs shaddow touches my shadow at the pitlane


This is funny some sick way. But to be true, Keke has allways laid high words on Kimi. Allways.
Odvan
QUOTE (kismet @ Nov 20 2009, 23:03) *
IF Mercedes wants Kimi, I think they're going to get him. Basically, he wasn't planning on taking a sabbatical and if they make him a reasonable offer he can accept without losing too much face, he's going to sign. Because he wants to.

It seems you change your approach. Doesn't like sabbatical too. wink.gif
Szoelloe
QUOTE (Odvan @ Nov 20 2009, 21:33) *
It seems you change your approach. Doesn't like sabbatical too.wink.gif


Nobody likes the sabbatical idea. This guy has unfinished business in F1, would be sad if he did not see it like that.
Odvan
QUOTE
Rosberg expects 'wins at least' in 2010

Kimi Raikkonen's management has indicated that the Finn would be interested in the vacant Mercedes GP seat, and although Rosberg did not name his personal preferences, he did not deny he was interested in the identity of his team-mate.

"In some ways yes, of course," he said. "Why? It's nice to have someone you can get on with, it's nice to have someone who isn't a completely egocentric person that just thinks about himself and tries to trick the other driver, because there is lots work you have to do together."

Nice boy. But yeah title would be hard to reach.
wiry
Today's news gives some hope... (Nick Fry's and Aabar manager's words)
fingers crossed it's not a hoax ohwell.gif
halifaxf1fan
QUOTE (Odvan @ Nov 20 2009, 15:51) *
How this guys couldn't be friends anymore?




indeed.

watch this wonderful video of 2003 nurburbring qualifying - kimi's first pole. i always remembered haug's reaction. watch haug at 1:37 and 1:41!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9UU0b8m7Us...player_embedded

ps. the sounds that the mclaren was making in this clip are amazing.
2ms
QUOTE (Mia 01 @ Nov 20 2009, 14:13) *
Right on the nail.

Deep inside I think Kimi is thrilled by the Mercedes offer.

And, don´t forget, he wants to put Ferrai, and now, MacLaren down.

If he gets the seat, Mercedes will make him the biggest in F1.


Kimi turned down the McLaren offer even though McLaren was the team he was most interested in driving for. Where do you get the idea that he suddenly would want to drive for Merc now?

I think what Kimi is thrilled about is being able to do whatever he wants next year while still being paid more than any other driver in F1 cool.gif
And rally. I think he finds rally fun as hell. As far as F1 and this whole thing that everyone seems to think all the drivers want to do -- proving to everyone that they're the awesomest at it -- don't think he gives a rat's ass about all that.
RodrigoL
QUOTE (halifaxf1fan @ Nov 20 2009, 21:03) *
indeed.

watch this wonderful video of 2003 nurburbring qualifying - kimi's first pole. i always remembered haug's reaction. watch haug at 1:37 and 1:41!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9UU0b8m7Us...player_embedded

ps. the sounds that the mclaren was making in this clip are amazing.


Was that Rosberg at the end ? stoned.gif
BiH
QUOTE (halifaxf1fan @ Nov 20 2009, 16:03) *
indeed.

watch this wonderful video of 2003 nurburbring qualifying - kimi's first pole. i always remembered haug's reaction. watch haug at 1:37 and 1:41!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9UU0b8m7Us...player_embedded

ps. the sounds that the mclaren was making in this clip are amazing.



also being mercedes and getting pole in germany ment a lot....it did seem that haug and kimi seemed to be better pals then kimi and ron did
Mia 01
QUOTE (2ms @ Nov 20 2009, 22:12) *
Kimi turned down the McLaren offer even though McLaren was the team he was most interested in driving for. Where do you get the idea that he suddenly would want to drive for Merc now?

I think what Kimi is thrilled about is being able to do whatever he wants next year while still being paid more than any other driver in F1 cool.gif
And rally. I think he finds rally fun as hell. As far as F1 and this whole thing that everyone seems to think all the drivers want to do -- proving to everyone that they're the awesomest at it -- don't think he gives a rat's ass about all that.



I has a degree in law.

When Kimi was forced out of Ferrari, he was and still is angry. As most of you knows, the only ones at the top for know is he and Lewis

I undersatand Kimi.

The only one on par with him is Lewis.
Odvan
QUOTE (2ms @ Nov 21 2009, 00:12) *
Kimi turned down the McLaren offer even though McLaren was the team he was most interested in driving for. Where do you get the idea that he suddenly would want to drive for Merc now?

Merc would offer him everything he wants. Mac offered him to be number two (and this is logical because they have Lois). Merc might be slowly next year than Mac but they have all power now - best support, best team managers, one of the best driver - so they should succeed. Shareholders and Daimler wants to see win.
Mia 01
I´m afraid that if Kimi signs for Mercedes, it will be on his terms, only his terms.

Kimi will beat all. He will beat all next year.

Sorry for this one.
BullHead
mmmm... don't actually think he'll be in it next year...
meat
QUOTE (Mia 01 @ Nov 20 2009, 21:53) *
I´m afraid that if Kimi signs for Mercedes, it will be on his terms, only his terms.

Kimi will beat all. He will beat all next year.



roflmao.gif roflmao.gif
mkay
QUOTE (Odvan @ Nov 20 2009, 16:48) *
Merc would offer him everything he wants. Mac offered him to be number two (and this is logical because they have Lois). Merc might be slowly next year than Mac but they have all power now - best support, best team managers, one of the best driver - so they should succeed. Shareholders and Daimler wants to see win.


Problem is... they want a reduction in costs as well...

Shareholders and board members aren't too happy about the takeover. There will be HUGE pressure on Mercedes GP to succeed.
Birelman
Why are people so convinced Mercedes will be so much weaker than McLaren next year? I k now Lewis looked strong in the last races, and McLaren was looking like on a rise, but, I think also Lewis makes a difference too. Still, Brawn looked pretty good the last few races, Rubens was looking good all weekend in Brazil until the race started, and by the end of Abu Dhabi Button was strong.

To me, it's not so clear cut that Mercedes will be weak at all, I think it'll be a good strong fight between a big four composed of Red Bull, McLaren, Mercedes, and Ferrari, probably in that same order.
Odvan
QUOTE (mkay @ Nov 21 2009, 00:58) *
Problem is... they want a reduction in costs as well...

Shareholders and board members aren't too happy about the takeover. There will be HUGE pressure on Mercedes GP to succeed.

You see - they need him. Kimi won't cost them too much. smile.gif
wiry
QUOTE (RodrigoL @ Nov 20 2009, 21:23) *
Was that Rosberg at the end ? stoned.gif
Yes! I bet it's Nico wearing Kimi's cap! smile.gif
Mungo Fangio of the Year
I don't know what will happen, but Merc can only win, like Kimi, if they combine their resoutces.
Lazy Prodigy
QUOTE (wiry @ Nov 20 2009, 17:43) *
Yes! I bet it's Nico wearing Kimi's cap! smile.gif

Wasnt he like cheering for Kimi in Nurburgring quali 2003?
Cyborg
this silly season has been crazy!
Mungo Fangio of the Year
still is
ruby soho
The last one is ghey
Mia 01
QUOTE (2ms @ Nov 20 2009, 22:12) *
Kimi turned down the McLaren offer even though McLaren was the team he was most interested in driving for. Where do you get the idea that he suddenly would want to drive for Merc now?

I think what Kimi is thrilled about is being able to do whatever he wants next year while still being paid more than any other driver in F1 cool.gif
And rally. I think he finds rally fun as hell. As far as F1 and this whole thing that everyone seems to think all the drivers want to do -- proving to everyone that they're the awesomest at it -- don't think he gives a rat's ass about all that.
'

I have followed Kimi since the beginning.
Mia 01
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]Sorry, I didn´t mean to disturb LH
Mia 01
QUOTE (Odvan @ Nov 20 2009, 23:11) *
You see - they need him. Kimi won't cost them too much. smile.gif


I think the deal is on.

Kimi will get moore than FA
Mia 01
QUOTE (halifaxf1fan @ Nov 21 2009, 00:58) *



I like thoose pictures.

But, I think Martin likes him the same..

Ron. Well He likes him a lot, but he likes to control him from home.
donskar
WHAT IF . . .

Massa's injury (psychological, if not physical) prevents him from returning to top form? (See Serling Moss, for example.)

I wonder . . . any chance of Kimi returning to Ferrari?

Unlikely, but it IS the SILLY Season!
pmiranda
QUOTE (donskar @ Nov 21 2009, 00:31) *
WHAT IF . . .

Massa's injury (psychological, if not physical) prevents him from returning to top form? (See Serling Moss, for example.)

I wonder . . . any chance of Kimi returning to Ferrari?

Unlikely, but it IS the SILLY Season!


LOL in that case if i was KIMI i would ask 100 milions a year!!!! he he he
Otherwise they always have Fisi and Badoer which are good to show the sponsors logos in the car since they go so slow people can get a pretty good look at them. tongue.gif
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