Kubica better than Nick, he is young, won race, was title contender last year, but he marginally better. German media would press hard Mercedes if they really want Kubica instead of Nick who also without a seat now.

Nick beat Kubica twice.

he said nothing about Kimi. I think its a good sign. He knows nothing because its all confindental.

Wow although Kimi left F1 he is the most discussed man here at the forum

Well if Kubica is the big surprise of Haug then I just can say: BOOOORING

If Raikkonen doesn't go to Mercedes I think Kuby would be better than Heidfeld, and more interesting to watch.

It is all up to Kimi what he will do 2010. Mercedes wants him for sure and Haug knows how fast Kimi is and feels he finally has to pay back for those engine failures back in Mclaren times that "robbed" him from two titles (2003 and 2005). Norbert wants to make Kimi a WDC now. But Kimi propably already has a "juicy" contract for 2011 with Red Bull to join his pal Vettel. If he´s to sign with Mercedes now there has to be a deal that Kimi is happy with or else he will sit out 2010 and go to RB 2011. I do believe though that Kimi allready has signed with Mercedes with an option that he could leave 2011 should the Mercedes not be able to fight for wins. I also believe that he, with the help of Aabar money, will be the highest payd driver on the grid. Kimi want´s to be in a car that could give him another title and Mercedes, with the genius Ross Brawn, is most certainly capable of managing just that. I think the announcement will come very soon, within a week.

If even Nobby can´t convince Kimi to stay in F1 nobody can.

Remains to be seen that one. The only thing we really know is that Mercedes wants Raikkonen and that contact(s) has been made. Outside of that it's nothing but speculation and rumours at the moment.

Kimi's deal was just announced on Eurosport

He signed three year deal with the team - MyF1Dream - they said he will drive for free in 2010 but will get 51 % of the stocks of MyF1Dream at the end of the season if he managed to get more than 10 points in WDC. In 2011 and 2012 he will have 51 % of the stocks and fire all the kids away from the team and hire Mick Jagger as a Team Manager. In 2012 they will also list in NASDAQ

Kubica beat Nick in terms of number of races won.

What does it mean? RB propose him more money than Mclaren (Mercedes)? Agree on zero PR from Kimi and give him possibility to do as much rally as he want? And where is guaranty RB will be contender?

Don't buy it.

If Kimi want he could drive Mclaren and now - Mercedes. It's all about him.

They are all no match for Hamilton-Button and Alonso-Massa.

On points maybe, but what happened in 2008 when the car was quite good?
Robert Kubica was actually a title contender.
Sometimes you have drivers that are good in midfield cars but once they
get in a good car nothing happens.
Heidfeld seems to be that kind of driver together with Fisichella, Frentzen etc etc.

Barrichello beat Button one year (2008) but when the car was a championship
contender, Button got 6 wins against buttons 2.

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In TS Keke says already that to his knoledge Kimi is considering something else than driving in Mercedes.
TS has also got information from Merc that they are now waiting for Renaults desicion. Kubica is now ahead of Heidfeld
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Oh my, oh my. I really thought I´m kind of capable to read finnish.. My translation oh TS would be..

Keke says: " I have also understood that Kimi wants something else than move the Mercedes".

That´s the only sentence I found from TS website. Maybe there´s more in printed version? But I luckily don´t live the area they are most common..

I just saw Keke's interview, and he said clearly next things:

Kimi: Kimi wants sabbatical, but Robertsons want him to continue

Heikki: Heikki either has contract already or he doesn't undestand the seriousness of his situation

Nico: Nico is now ready for next level!

There, do with that what you want.

Would You mind sharing us where You saw it? Seems to be Keke in finnish TV?

More money for Robertsons in F1

I'm not sure whats so cool, from the above, I know its just your opinion, if Kimi wants to carry then he needs to quit the premadonna act, he's come across very spoilt, after all this and the macca situation, the current supposed demands, I'm not sure he deserves a F1 drive

MTV3 yes, so it will be on their web site soon, or already.

I sure do not know nothing. But one thing U can rely on. Kimi do not know the word "primanonna"..

Their web site? boooriiiing...

I'd be surprised if anyone knows that word.

Keke also said that IF Kimi takes sabbatical AND wants back the following season, he has talent to do it!

I think Keke wants Kimi to take a sabbatical. Kimi would be a bit too good as Nico's team mate.

That's debatable. No one thought Button-Rubens were a match for Massa-Kimi or Hamilton-Heikki, did they?

It seems the terms of his contract termination with Ferrari do not allow him to drive in 2010 for any team placed ahead of Ferrari in the 2009 World Championship. Apart from risking the compensation he’s got for the contract termination, he’d probably would face legal issues for breaching this agreement.

http://grandprixinsider.wordpress.com/2009...rcedes-in-2011/

Potential and almost sure thing are not same.

It's only one person's opinion but that's kind of the way I saw Ferrari and Kimi this year. Or characterised another way;

The Michael Method was lapped up by Felipe while Kimi said "no thanks I'm capable of running my own side of the garage". The development went Felipe's way naturally but as soon as the weight was transferred, we saw the results very very suddenly start to flow.

Some would say the latter was pure coincidence.

I remember back in Jan 2008 how Ferrari said the F2008 would suit Raikkonen better..

Once again his fanatics try to glue their image of him back together with myths and excuses

Well technically Brawn doesn't exist anymore and Mercedes is a new team.....

What if I started another rumour about the Merc-F1 seat? Seb Loeb to start testing Brawn in Spain with 2010 parts with view to a "shock announcement" before Christmas.

Have I missed something? Didn't Ferrari initially "breach the agreement" well, no sorry, breach the contract!!

If thats true it again brings into question the respect Ferrari deserve.

The break the contract then demand Kimi not drive for certain teams? What a joke.

I'm surprised that Ferrari can make any demand like that considering they are the ones terminating his contract.

If the Robertsons wanted him to continue, they shouldn't have bollocked up his negotiations!

Maybe that is why they asked so much money? And Kimi went along thinking
that either way he wins: gets huge salary OR the sabbatical he wants himself!

Now they deny Raikkonen's own words when he says that he's in charge with what he's doing.

And it did suit him better in the beginning of the year. Then Ferrari made some changes which surprise surprise suited Massa better. Once again Kimi's bashers try to find mud to throw at him and his fans hoping it would stick

Hmm, ok.

OK, so why didn't he finish off his contract and agreed to have it broken under Ferrari's terms? That makes little sense

Heh, Keke. I do wonder if he really knows that much or if he's just insinuating that Kimi is unmotivated in an attempt to lower Kimi's chances (which are probably next to nothing anyway) at landing next to Nico.

Keke said that his understanding of the situation is that Kimi wants to take a sabbatical. He didn't say it's 100% fact. According to Keke management though would propably want to see him driving to keep himself in shape.

He also said if Kimi takes a year's sabbatical he can always come back with the talent he has.

that added whole new dimension

In light of what has happened (McLaren negotiations) and is still going on (Mercedes) that doesn't make any sense. I say it's bs.

It does doesn't it.

agreed

Same here. Kimi should just do a "Mario Andretti" and tell Stefano and Luca to "wipe their asses with it."

He's guessing just like everyone else but of course he might end up being right. Who knows.

Now it became more interesting. Do Kimi has an agreement already with Mercedes to race for 2010 with get our condition to RBR? Sounds really great if this is true. So now where is Schumacher? As consultant to Kimi again? I rather hope not...

Like in Magny Cours? What about all of his fastest laps? What about the chassis they built specifically for him?

In the beginning of the year, it's always when he's winning isn't it? You're evading logic without even realizing it.


Oh, sorry, I forgot that the Robertsons have Raikkonen's wife tied in a basement so that he'd do anything they want.

Michael as Team Manager?