JamesHunt
Oct 29 2009, 14:18
Jamesallenonf1
German media are reporting that Timo Glock has signed for Renault to drive alongside Robert Kubica.
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BMW_F1
Oct 29 2009, 14:19
Kubica is going to put this guy in his place.. There is too much hype surrounding him and I don't think he is all that.. If I am wrong please let me know I will eat my hat..
Lennat
Oct 29 2009, 14:20
Well, a solid choice at least.
noikeee
Oct 29 2009, 14:21
I'm expecting this to be true as there's been a bit of noise on this front lately. I'm a bit annoyed that this effectively shuts off Grosjean, but understand Renault's decision. That's a very solid pair of drivers they've got for next year, young and fast, proof that there's still some ambition left over there.
Nice deal Timo, you deserve it
Shocking.
But nice. Hope he gets better.
The Ragged Edge
Oct 29 2009, 14:23
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Oct 29 2009, 14:19)

Kubica is going to put this guy in his place.. There is too much hype surrounding him and I don't think he is all that.. If I am wrong please let me know I will eat my hat..
No more hype than Kubica.

Glock has the opposit problem to Heikki Kovalainen. Good in the races, but poor qualifying speed.
BMW_F1
Oct 29 2009, 14:25
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Oct 29 2009, 19:21)

I'm a bit annoyed that this effectively shuts off Grosjean, but understand Renault's decision.
so what .? ,, that's another one that is not all that.. Bourdais would have been a better choice..
Pharazon
Oct 29 2009, 14:26
renault now have 2 good drivers for the first time in ages...
good move for renault and glock
highdownforce
Oct 29 2009, 14:27
As expected.
Good for Renault.
LuckyStrike1
Oct 29 2009, 14:27
Good choice and hope it's true.
If Kubica is to be considered the star driver, Timo Glock is the sensible second choice. He's fast, experienced nowadays, raraely makes mistakes and seems to be really good. He doesn't need to be WDC-winning material. Kubica is supposed to be all that if we are to believe everything that is said about him.
Good choice by Renault - they move away from "young renault development drivers that needs time, more time and yet even more time" and goes for two solid and fast choices - Kubica and Glock. I think that's just what Renault needs now to bounce back from Flaviogate. Or rather Nelson Piquet-gate.
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Oct 29 2009, 23:19)

Kubica is going to put this guy in his place.. There is too much hype surrounding him and I don't think he is all that.. If I am wrong please let me know I will eat my hat..
Here we go again; I didn't know that Timo, one of the quietest guys in the paddlock, has to be put in his place, but then I am not sure why I am actually suprised by the tone and attitute of this poster.
noikeee
Oct 29 2009, 14:28
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Oct 29 2009, 14:19)

Kubica is going to put this guy in his place.. There is too much hype surrounding him and I don't think he is all that.. If I am wrong please let me know I will eat my hat..
His problem is qualifying, in the races he's usually very good (although I was a bit baffled by some poor performances in the beginning of the season - that Bahrain race

). If he ever gets to fix qualy, he's going to be a strong driver, without it it's a bit of a big handicap in current F1.
One of the reasons he is still rated reasonably high is GP2, was a fierce rival of Hamilton in late 06 and got the championship convincingly in 07. I know GP2 talent doesn't always translate to F1 (ex Piquet) but it's a nice thing to have in his CV anyway.
I don't think he can beat Kubica but he's about as solid of a #2 they're going to get. Other than Heidfeld of course, but he's got age on his side, and probably Renault didn't want to repeat BMW's pair for some reason.
PrettyBoy22
Oct 29 2009, 14:31
2 years and i'm still not sure Glock has produced anything other than a couple of good results (he was stunning at Hungary 08). Good move for him though i think, surely Toyota will not keep Jarno AGAIN!
Desdirodeabike
Oct 29 2009, 14:31
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Oct 29 2009, 15:19)

Kubica is going to put this guy in his place.. There is too much hype surrounding him and I don't think he is all that.. If I am wrong please let me know I will eat my hat..
Exactly what kind of hat are we talking about?
However, I do think you are completely right.
BMW_F1
Oct 29 2009, 14:34
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Oct 29 2009, 19:28)

One of the reasons he is still rated reasonably high is GP2, was a fierce rival of Hamilton in late 06 and got the championship convincingly in 07.
the fierce rival of Hamilton in 06 was Piquet not Glock .
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Oct 29 2009, 15:19)

Kubica is going to put this guy in his place.. There is too much hype surrounding him and I don't think he is all that.. If I am wrong please let me know I will eat my hat..
Or the other way around...
The Ragged Edge
Oct 29 2009, 14:36
I just went on the Jamesallen f1 site and saw no reference to the Glock/Renault signing.
santori
Oct 29 2009, 14:37
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Oct 29 2009, 16:34)

the fierce rival of Hamilton in 06 was Piquet not Glock .
The title was mainly Hamilton vs. Piquet but in the second half of the season it was a three-way battle for race wins. A good choice by Renault and one in the eye for Toyota.
I hope Renault doesn't just dump Grosjean, though. He's been a victim of F1 politics and I think he's owed help back into F1.
grunge
Oct 29 2009, 14:44
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Oct 29 2009, 18:21)

. I'm a bit annoyed that this effectively shuts off Grosjean, but understand Renault's decision.
same here..i was really impressed with the fact that he was pretty much upto speed with alonsso in the first two weekends...but i would understand renault's decision..his last few outings have been less than impressive
BMW_F1
Oct 29 2009, 14:44
QUOTE (santori @ Oct 29 2009, 19:37)

The title was Hamilton vs. Piquet but in the second half of the season it was a three-way battle for race wins.
Pantano included.
crashgate
Oct 29 2009, 14:46
totally unexpected
but I am glad for him
will be good and solid nr2
Slowinfastout
Oct 29 2009, 14:50
Glock is bland as hell but he's a solid driver I reckon.. if the car is capable to collect points I expect him to do that, just like he did at Toyota.
I think Kubica is better though, but you never know... next year is going to be a bit different with the refueling ban and this looks like a decent driver lineup for that kind of stuff..
King Six
Oct 29 2009, 14:52
Hopefully that means Kobayashi to get a proper seat at Toyota, this guy is the new Takuma Sato, one of the more, ahem, entertaining F1 drivers

Begin hype of next season being "most awesome ever"
QUOTE (The Ragged Edge @ Oct 29 2009, 16:36)

I just went on the Jamesallen f1 site and saw no reference to the Glock/Renault signing.

It's from Allen's twitter
http://twitter.com/Jamesallenonf1/status/5256789272
Alfisti
Oct 29 2009, 15:01
QUOTE (paranoik0 @ Oct 29 2009, 17:28)

His problem is qualifying, in the races he's usually very good (although I was a bit baffled by some poor performances in the beginning of the season - that Bahrain race

). If he ever gets to fix qualy, he's going to be a strong driver, without it it's a bit of a big handicap in current F1.
Thing is though, you look better in races if your qualy is ppiss poor. he just carries HUGE fuel loads and creeps up the list during the race. I have said it before, the worst place to qualify if P6-P10 as you are at the mercy of the P11-14 guys with massive fuel loads.
egg1980
Oct 29 2009, 15:10
QUOTE (Pharazon @ Oct 29 2009, 14:26)

renault now have 2 good drivers for the first time in ages...
good move for renault and glock
Yep, is it any coincidence that Flavio isn't in charge any more? Correct me if I'm wrong, but he more-or-less had a policy of only employing drivers he managed.
Ironic that one of those drivers ended up leading to him getting banned for life - whoops!
Buckethead
Oct 29 2009, 15:16
QUOTE (crashgate @ Oct 29 2009, 16:46)

totally unexpected
Maybe for you. Everyone else pretty much knew this is going to happen
Arctic_Banana
Oct 29 2009, 15:18
Nice
I'm sure he'll be putting good pressure to Kubica.
noikeee
Oct 29 2009, 15:23
QUOTE (BMW_F1 @ Oct 29 2009, 14:34)

the fierce rival of Hamilton in 06 was Piquet not Glock .
That's why I said late 06 genius, Glock was stuck with the god-awful BCN team the beginning of the year and suddenly started grabbing wins and podiums when he moved to iSport.
Seanspeed
Oct 29 2009, 15:24
I have to say he was a bit more impressive back in 08, but he can recover. He at least showed he has some good potential.
I'd definitely say he deserves a chance like this. Glad to hear it'll be at Renault, but I also hope that Renault can get back into their winning ways. They seemed to have been on a backwards slope for these past few years. With Alonso gone, can they keep up?
bankoq
Oct 29 2009, 15:26
I don't think Glock has any particular qualy problem. It's just Jarno is best qualifier on the grid.
I'd prefer Sutil becasue of his body dimensions. If Renault put all efforts on big & heavy Kubica, Timo will have a problem.
egg1980
Oct 29 2009, 15:29
QUOTE (bankoq @ Oct 29 2009, 15:26)

I'd prefer Sutil becasue of his body dimensions.
Steady on cowboy!!!
race addicted
Oct 29 2009, 15:49
Great news! ...'cause I'd be dissapointed if he had to leave F1 next year. I think he's measured up to Trulli really well. On balance, I'd say the two has been extremely evenly matched, and appearing to be a match for Trulli, is in my eyes, very good.
I feel certain though, that Kubica will hold a small but consistent advantage.
Renault has got a very good line-up next year, and as someone already said, it's been a while since Renault had TWO very good drivers.
gorivan
Oct 29 2009, 15:50
QUOTE (bankoq @ Oct 29 2009, 16:26)

I don't think Glock has any particular qualy problem. It's just Jarno is best qualifier on the grid.
I'd prefer Sutil becasue of his body dimensions. If Renault put all efforts on big & heavy Kubica, Timo will have a problem.
I don't think it works this way. While a tall guy like Kubica could have problems if the engineers do not leave enough room for balancing the car in terms of weight, if Renault manage to construct a car that is lighter with Kubica's size in mind, it will be beneficial to Timo as well. You can never have too much margin for balance, and the size of the tub is custom anyway.
Maybe this gives Heidfeld a chance at Toyota. He was quoted as saying he is sure of a F1 car seat next year or something close.
QUOTE (bankoq @ Oct 29 2009, 11:26)

I don't think Glock has any particular qualy problem. It's just Jarno is best qualifier on the grid.
I'd prefer Sutil becasue of his body dimensions. If Renault put all efforts on big & heavy Kubica, Timo will have a problem.
Or rather Timo would have advantage because with his smaller size, his car could have better ballast distribution and therefore more balanced.
zarooch
Oct 29 2009, 16:43
honestly, i don't know why.. but i thought Heikki was gonna get the deal done with Renault, Glock? err I thought he was gonna get a renewed deal with Toyota... but whatever...
If it's true then Renault will have a very strong pairing. Actually I was hoping they will sign Timo, he is very fast in races, lacks a bit in qually, but generally he is very good. Oh, and they like each other with Robert.
Atreiu
Oct 29 2009, 18:01
I had already a rumour about this at the time of the Brazilian GP.
It's a good move for both.
There was no way Grosjean would ever stay.
EthanM
Oct 29 2009, 18:03
I m surprised nobody linked this with the "difference of opinion" Toyota docs had with regards to Timo's condition and ability to race in Abu Dhabi.
The standard of tinfoilism in this forum is droping
Slowinfastout
Oct 29 2009, 18:07
QUOTE (EthanM @ Oct 29 2009, 14:03)

I m surprised nobody linked this with the "difference of opinion" Toyota docs had with regards to Timo's condition and ability to race in Abu Dhabi.
The standard of tinfoilism in this forum is droping

It's so obvious it doesn't even need to be mentioned... Toyota wanted to give Kobayashi a tryout and they found a way to keep glock away from his car.
From:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79823QUOTE
For sure it will be a big challenge because I think Renault is very motivated to come back, to put the negative moments behind and that's why I think we have a good chance to do well next year.
It will be much better for me to test in two weeks' time and know where I'm standing. Otherwise you'd be all winter just guessing and believing the numbers and just hoping the numbers will be good. As I said, there's huge motivation in the team I'm joining and I'm motivated very much for the new challenge, so I think it should be okay.
So Robert has a good feeling about Renaults form in 2010, Timo, the best possible choice as an "classic" number 2 in my opionon, it sound all pretty good.
DePortago
Oct 29 2009, 22:00
Kubica and Glock... sounds well.
Renault R30... it´s almost impossible for Renault to make a worst car than the R29, so it sounds well too...
Maybe they will be fighting for the 3rd position in the Constructor´s Championship and also for podium finishes, but I don´t see them fighting for victories.
JarnoA
Oct 29 2009, 22:30
If Glock takes the second Renault seat ahead of Nick, Kubica will be over the moon.
Nick beat Kubica 3/1. Glock has been beaten by Jarno consistently.
Kubica will know that he can beat his teammate if it is Glock.
If it is Nick, he will be cursing the decision.
Slyder
Oct 29 2009, 22:33
Good for Glock.
And again, Toyota being idiots and letting him go. He was the main guy who was starting to make things happen in Toyota last year, and even this year, and they let him go.
Nice going Toyota
Brawn BGP 001
Oct 29 2009, 22:35
John Howett is failure in action.
QUOTE (JarnoA @ Oct 30 2009, 04:30)

If Glock takes the second Renault seat ahead of Nick, Kubica will be over the moon.
Nick beat Kubica 3/1. Glock has been beaten by Jarno consistently.
Kubica will know that he can beat his teammate if it is Glock.
If it is Nick, he will be cursing the decision.
Nick beat Kubica 3/1??????????/
What are you talking about?
Nice move. I always thought Glock was extremely underrated and starting your F1 career at Toyota is a sure fire way to kill your career before it starts. Glad to see he's getting away from Toyota's red-tape bullshit and moving on to a team with a more race-driven attitude rather than corporate-driven. Hopefully, he'll now be able to show us exactly what he can do in F1 without having to deal with a woefully inconsistent car where the engineers have no clue why it's so slow/fast... assuming the R30 isn't balls.
bankoq
Oct 29 2009, 23:03
QUOTE (JarnoA @ Oct 29 2009, 22:30)

Nick beat Kubica 3/1. Glock has been beaten by Jarno consistently.
Actually it's 2-1 in Kubica's favour so far in 3 full seasons they raced together.
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