Ross Stonefeld
Dec 6 2008, 12:48
So did Brundle. You hire someone like Eddie Jordan to hopefully get an insider's view or information. What's the point of an expert that tells me the obvious.
craftverk
Dec 6 2008, 14:45
Originally posted by tidytracks
It's the Olympics. You try being even handed in your coverage of every nation on earth.
Besides, the Olympics are all about competing for the pride of your nation, so what the hell is wrong with showing a bit of support for the British team?
Nothing, nothing at all.
D.M.N.
Dec 12 2008, 16:41
Mr. Sale, Mr. Sale, Mr. Sale, another attempt to stir up gossip?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1...s-new-deal.html
"Martin Brundle, the top motor racing pundit, has concerned his new BBC paymasters by informing them he doesn't want to continue his signature F1 gridwalk interviewing drivers, team chiefs and celebrities just before the start of a race. That was a key part of the ITV coverage - and one of the reasons why Brundle was a coveted signing by the Beeb."
wingwalker
Dec 12 2008, 16:43
Originally posted by D.M.N.
Mr. Sale, Mr. Sale, Mr. Sale, another attempt to stir up gossip?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1...s-new-deal.html
"Martin Brundle, the top motor racing pundit, has concerned his new BBC paymasters by informing them he doesn't want to continue his signature F1 gridwalk interviewing drivers, team chiefs and celebrities just before the start of a race. That was a key part of the ITV coverage - and one of the reasons why Brundle was a coveted signing by the Beeb."
This blows! But why wouldn't he want to do this?
D.M.N.
Dec 12 2008, 16:50
As a side note, the Daily Mail is known within the media circles to bash the BBC at every attempt - so it may be worthy not to read much into this. :yawn:
Originally posted by wingwalker
This blows! But why wouldn't he want to do this?
...because he didn't really like doing it. From
http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=Ma...rundle&id=44472
I never watch or listen to my commentaries and I’ve hardly ever seen a Grid Walk other than a couple of snips I caught on YouTube.
I don’t have the time and I don’t find it comfortable watching myself. The fans, forums and blogs soon let you know how you are doing!
I’ve met some fascinating people on the grid: kings, prime ministers, movie stars, pop stars and even the occasional racing driver.
It’s like an alter ego for me, because I’m not the kind of person who interrupts people – I don’t really recognise the bloke who bounces around being cheeky and rude on the grid. And I truly hate bothering the drivers.
I do, though, love the adrenaline rush of what is five minutes of live, unscripted, unrehearsed, ‘car crash’ TV.
The Grid Walk has taken on a life of its own. It wasn’t my idea; it was thought up by Gerard Lane and Neil Duncanson from North One, who suggested I walk along the grid and talk about what I saw. I think we pioneered it at the 1997 British Grand Prix.
I seem to recall a rather less charitable description elsewhere, although I can't for the life of me remember where it was...
Graeme
wingwalker
Dec 12 2008, 17:11
Cheers! It's funny he didn't enjoy it as he was damn good at it. But I do see that he felt unconformable in a position when he had to talk to the drivers minutes before the race knowing from his own experience as a driver that he would absolutely hate doing an interview in that moment. Still, Brundle's grid walks RULED, I'll be sad to see them go.
Garagiste
Dec 12 2008, 17:18
The grid walks haven't really been so good of late anyway though they did throw up the odd pearl, so I'll miss them if that's true.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how many wig references DC comes out with per broadcast though.
Clatter
Dec 12 2008, 17:59
Originally posted by Greem
...because he didn't really like doing it. From http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=Ma...rundle&id=44472
I seem to recall a rather less charitable description elsewhere, although I can't for the life of me remember where it was...
Graeme
Where do you get he doesnt like doing them from that?
D.M.N.
Dec 20 2008, 08:41
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showpos...postcount=11068
Early schedule for "Grand Prix Night":
Saturday 28th March 2008
BBC2
17:15: GP Night
17:20: F1 08: Down to the Wire
18:20: Inside Sport
19:00: TBA - other early evening programming
BBC3
19:00: F1 GP Qualifying: Australia
20:00: TBA
21:00: Lewis Hamilton: Billion Dollar Man
22:00: TBA
22:30: TBA
23:00: Film: Days of Thunder
00:30: Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps [back to normal schedule]
Saturday 28th March 2008
BBC1
22:20: Match of the Day
23:15: GP Night Live
23:30: F1 GP Qualifying: Australia
00:30: Film: Grand Prix
BST
04:20: GP Night Live
04:30: TBA
05:00: GP Night Live
05:15: BBC News
05:30: F1 GP Live: Australia [Race Start: 07:00]
09:30: Breakfast
They'll be showing the qualifying live early on Saturday morning yes, not just these repeats later on in the day?
D.M.N.
Dec 20 2008, 10:34
Originally posted by dank
They'll be showing the qualifying live early on Saturday morning yes, not just these repeats later on in the day?
Oh yeah, of course.
RF1 fan
Dec 20 2008, 11:12
The Race start at 7:00 am CET?
D.M.N.
Dec 20 2008, 11:23
Originally posted by RF1 fan
The Race start at 7:00 am CET?
No, I think it starts at 8am CET. The race local time starts at 5pm, which is 7am UK time.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixe...=0&sec=0&p1=152
http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/custom...0&sec=00&p0=136
RF1 fan
Dec 20 2008, 11:47
Thanks mate
SirSaltire
Dec 20 2008, 18:26
I didn't realise that the BBC 'team' had been announced officially. The new edition of F1 Racing describes the 'team' to be Martin Brundle, Murry Walker, and David Coulthard. Has the BBC confirmed this?
Originally posted by SirSaltire
I didn't realise that the BBC 'team' had been announced officially. The new edition of F1 Racing describes the 'team' to be Martin Brundle, Murry Walker, and David Coulthard. Has the BBC confirmed this?
Yes, in other news Honda are looking to pull out of F1.
D.M.N.
Dec 20 2008, 18:34
Originally posted by SirSaltire
I didn't realise that the BBC 'team' had been announced officially. The new edition of F1 Racing describes the 'team' to be Martin Brundle, Murry Walker, and David Coulthard. Has the BBC confirmed this?
Yep. They have:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressrele...ber/24/f1.shtml
Just as a recap:
Presenter - Jake Humphrey
Pundits - David Coulthard + Eddie Jordan
Commentators - Martin Brundle + Jonathan Legard
Pit Lane Reporters - Ted Kravitz + Lee McKensie
Web Reporter - Murray Walker
SirSaltire
Dec 20 2008, 19:50
Originally posted by dank
Yes, in other news Honda are looking to pull out of F1.
What was it someone said about sarcasm?
Tenmantaylor
Dec 21 2008, 18:56
Didnt realise Ted was onboard till now.
Must really sting for Allen.
D.M.N.
Dec 30 2008, 15:17
According to ariusuk on DS, there's a rumour going round that BBC are trying to offload the F1 support races to another broadcaster...
stevvy1986
Dec 30 2008, 17:05
dont really mind what channel the support races are on (as long as im able to see them) can be very handy for seeing early track/weather conditions before the main race in the afternoon
Jackman
Dec 30 2008, 17:08
Eurosport are back as the broadcaster of record for GP2 Asia (In the UK, at least), and have always been fairly enthusiastic about the series. Even if they still aren't able to stick to anything remotely resembling their schedule.
Originally posted by Jackman
Eurosport are back as the broadcaster of record for GP2 Asia (In the UK, at least), and have always been fairly enthusiastic about the series. Even if they still aren't able to stick to anything remotely resembling their schedule.
As a Freeview only viewer I hope this isn't the case. But then, I also hope that if ITV4 were to retain it that they don't bring back that god awful Charlie
Whatsherface as presenter.
Jackman
Dec 30 2008, 17:24
Eurosport is still better than any red button nonsense: at least it's recordable that way. Unless they ask me to present it, of course.
stevvy1986
Dec 30 2008, 17:30
Originally posted by dank
As a Freeview only viewer I hope this isn't the case. But then, I also hope that if ITV4 were to retain it that they don't bring back that god awful Charlie Whatsherface as presenter.
ITV have never shown GP2 Asia as far as i remember (which is what Jackman was on about). They've only shown the main GP2 series
Jackman
Dec 30 2008, 17:38
No, I was referring to Eurosport getting this year's Asia rights being a possible pointer for the future, main series-wise.
D.M.N.
Dec 30 2008, 18:38
The likelyhood is that if BBC don't show it behind the red button then Eurosport will have it. Failing that, Setanta Sports is a very slim possibility.
I doubt it'll go back to ITV.
stevvy1986
Dec 30 2008, 19:49
noooooooo not Setanta Sports,i dont have that (plus i've heard nothing but bad things about it,eg if its wet and windy outside chances are you'll lose your signal very very easily)
Dalton007
Dec 30 2008, 23:31
Originally posted by Jackman
Eurosport is still better than any red button nonsense: at least it's recordable that way. Unless they ask me to present it, of course.
I think you can record the streams, they are on channels 302, 303, and more, I think.
D.M.N.
Dec 31 2008, 11:17
An update from Roger Mosley is response to people's comments:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporteditors/20....html#comment27
27. At 10:39am on 31 Dec 2008, Roger Mosey - Director of BBC Sport wrote:
Thanks, all. Some replies:
To themotorsportfan in #7: we're still working on GP2, and some other scheduling details. Clearly, we'll have a lot of new content from F1 itself - which will start with practice available online on the Friday of a race weekend. Catch-up F1 will later be on the iPlayer with highlights on this site.
But to BigBadDaveB in #9 and others: F1 won't yet be available in HD though we'd very much like it to be. I'll keep you posted.
To hackerjack in #17, how_was_that in #21 and others: let's be clear about F1. ITV said they were no longer able to cover it. So if the BBC hadn't picked up F1 then it would presumably have gone to pay TV - which would have been an enormous shame for the 10m plus audiences who've been watching the sport's biggest moments. We never comment on rights fees, but many of the figures quoted in the press have been significant exaggerations; and it was paid for within our existing sports rights budget. Jacobnewbury in #8 is right about what went out and what comes in!
Unfortunately therefore it seems like no HD for F1 coverage, and it seems like the money values being thrown around are huge exagerrations.
jb26 on Digital Spy Forums (
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showpos...postcount=11263) has commented on the above comments from Roger.
The line "which will start with practice available online on the Friday of a race weekend" should not be mis-interpreted, it will be on the Red Button and/or BBC Two.
stevvy1986
Dec 31 2008, 11:39
i'd imagine it'll be on the red button/bbc2 but also probably online........as long as they show ALL the practice sessions,unlike ITV who never bothered with saturday morning practice
Ross Stonefeld
Dec 31 2008, 11:44
You guys are going to have such a comedown when the coverage actually starts that I'm worried you'll blow your brains out.
stevvy1986
Dec 31 2008, 11:50
i doubt that
D.M.N.
Dec 31 2008, 11:55
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
You guys are going to have such a comedown when the coverage actually starts that I'm worried you'll blow your brains out.
To be quite frank, even if we do have "such a comedown", coverage will be ten trillion times better than anything ITV have produced F1 related.
Also, at least we KNOW where to go if we need to complain, and at least our feedback will be taken in considering, I mean does ITV's Head of Sport do a blog like Roger Mosley does of BBC? Doubt it.
At least the saying "GMTV airtime" will never be heard again, thank goodness. Hell, I'm not expecting it to go 100% smoothly regards interactive in Melbourne, there probably will be teething problems, but it will be much better than the ITV coverage.
Tenmantaylor
Dec 31 2008, 11:57
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
You guys are going to have such a comedown when the coverage actually starts that I'm worried you'll blow your brains out.
Theyll blow their bowels out too not having advert breaks to go to the loo.
Tony Mandara
Dec 31 2008, 12:11
Originally posted by stevvy1986
i doubt that
You doubt that you will blow your brains out, or you doubt that Ross is worried??
Going soft on us Ross?
Next year I will be able to watch F1 on Dutch TV, Belgian TV and British TV......... Hot Damn!! I'm gonna have to buy more TVs!!!
Tony.
LostProphet
Dec 31 2008, 13:14
Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Theyll blow their bowels out too not having advert breaks to go to the loo.
Hahaha. Toilet humour but that one did make me laugh
Garagiste
Dec 31 2008, 14:16
It will take a monumentally dull race just to bring me down from hearing the chain as the intro again.
Watching the ITV review of the Lewis - er, year - the other day I was reminded that we won't have to suffer "liftmeyarp,liftmeyarp,arrryahyeeraaama" next year. Reason enough for celebration!
djellison
Dec 31 2008, 15:41
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
You guys are going to have such a comedown when the coverage actually starts that I'm worried you'll blow your brains out.
F1
- adverts
- James Allen.
Thats all I want Ross. And I'm going to get it.
Doug
stevvy1986
Dec 31 2008, 15:47
Originally posted by Garagiste
It will take a monumentally dull race just to bring me down from hearing the chain as the intro again.
Watching the ITV review of the Lewis - er, year - the other day I was reminded that we won't have to suffer "liftmeyarp,liftmeyarp,arrryahyeeraaama" next year. Reason enough for celebration!
plus no stupid intro's that have nothing to do with F1 (eg some big bird,a woman with flags on her back,n a roulette wheel)
Mr Plug
Jan 1 2009, 06:59
BBC's coverage of F1 2009 actually started last night....with Ron Dennis's appearance and interview on Jools Holland's "Annual Hootenanny".
But perhaps your parents had put many of you to bed already....
philhitchings
Jan 1 2009, 09:10
Originally posted by Mr Plug
BBC's coverage of F1 2009 actually started last night....with Ron Dennis's appearance and interview on Jools Holland's "Annual Hootenanny".
But perhaps your parents had put many of you to bed already....
only cos lewis had a better party to go to
Originally posted by D.M.N.
To be quite frank, even if we do have "such a comedown", coverage will be ten trillion times better than anything ITV have produced F1 related.
ITV weren't that bad really. They seemed to put a lot of effort into F1.. in particular their "behind the scenes" features explaining how things in F1 work. While I think the BBC will do a good job, I don't think ITV did a bad job. F1 is F1.. all you care about really is whats happening on the track and perhaps the voice who is commentating. All the rest is just an added bonus. For example with Moto GP.. quite often I switched between BBC and Eurosport for different races and it really didn't make any difference.
And someone pointed out a while back, while adverts were annoying.. F1 is so stale these days you never missed much anyway.. and at least you had a chance to use the bathroom.
wingwalker
Jan 1 2009, 23:13
I said it before, but ITV coverage was very underrated here. Yes, James Allen was annoying, Blundell was hardly insightful (which should be expected from a former F1 driver), and it looked like Lewis Hamilton World show rather than F1. But still, James Allen is a pretty knowledgeable guy there was a good pre show with reporters at the stop talking to drivers and team members, telling us about the various off the camera moments and general feel, and having a pitlane reporter who talks to the teams during the race is ace and reports on what is going on is ACE. Plus, Martin Brundle, no more words needed here. Overall, it was heads and shoulders over Polish coverage, that's why I was downloading it after the race.
We already know this, but it's nice getting it "confirmed":
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporteditors/20....html#comment37
37. At 11:21am on 02 Jan 2009, Roger Mosey - Director of BBC Sport wrote:
Redtimbo in #34: the idea is that F1's home will be BBC One, with all qualifying and races live and uninterrupted on that channel. The rest will be online and on the red button.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00gg..._Year_in_Sport/ - BBC's Review 2008 - The Year in Sport - F1 for first 5 minutes.
mursuka80
Jan 2 2009, 18:58
How is it possible that in year 2009 F1 isnt on HD? Frikkin Ice-Hockey WC is broadcasted in HD this year
Clatter
Jan 3 2009, 00:06
Originally posted by pRy
And someone pointed out a while back, while adverts were annoying.. F1 is so stale these days you never missed much anyway.. and at least you had a chance to use the bathroom.
Personally I always felt like I missed a lot during the breaks, and if you add up the total amount of time lost it's ridiculous. Why is it that some people require an ad break before they can go to loo? Does the TV control you so much that you can't make this simple decision for yourself?.
stevvy1986
Jan 3 2009, 00:16
probably got something to do with the fact people lose out on between 15-20mins each race cos of (pointless garbage rubbish worthless) adverts,and dont want to lose out on any more time by goin to the loo when adverts arent on
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