I very much doubt the BBC will be sending their feed to other countries, but you used to be able to get British Sky TV in foreign countries. Don't know how that worked but i'd check with sky, there was a bust up a little while back though that ended with sky stopping sending BBC and ITV channels to at least Spain.


(basically i have no idea)

Full screen onboard will be available on the BBC website. They'll review the situation after the first few races.

Source: Roger Mosey - Director of BBC Sport

I'm impressed. That will be perfect for laptop.. chat in one corner, timing screen in another and the onboard channel running while the main coverage is on my TV. I can't wait.

and for lukywill and others hoping for the BBC feed to be available on the internet worldwide....here is mosey's response:

Stevvy in #67 - we're contractually required to limit the online service to the UK.

So far I don't see any major difference between seeing the BBC this year and ITV last year from outside the UK.

Seriously

you clearly didnt think before posting that-the BBC feed will be considerably harder to hack into,they take it alot more seriously than ITV do

The BBC stream all their programs online, they are doing it right now, post us a link to a live stream accessable from outside the uk then.

You've got 30 days to work out how to do it.

We learn things every day: http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/bbc-f1-boss-quits/

"I was sad to see in Charlie Sale’s column in the Daily Mail today that Niall Sloane, the executive producer of the BBC’s F1 coverage has quit. Sloane is a football man, a former player in fact, who took charge of the F1 brief when the BBC won back the rights last March. He spent most of 2008 setting up the presentation team and the coverage schedule, which was announced earlier this week.

According to Sale, Sloane lost out on the job of BBC Head of Sport to his colleague Barbara Slater and is leaving the corporation after 27 years."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1...opping-40m.html

"Niall Sloane, BBC’s head of football and motor racing who launched his Formula One team last Tuesday, is likely to make a shock exit from the Corporation in the same week.

Sloane has been unsettled at the BBC since he was encouraged to apply for the director of sport position that went to junior colleague Barbara Slater on Wednesday - but didn’t make the short list.

His first job offer is likely to come from the Premier League, whose chief executive Richard Scudamore is a close friend."

Seems like he's disgruntled at not getting the Director of Sport position.

They should just give the job to Brundle.

I was in Holland two weeks ago and watched the Wales v England Six Nations rugby game live on iplayer. It was through a paid anonymous proxy service. I am from the UK but it was the only way I could see that match when I was in Holland.
99.9% of freely published proxy servers will not work because they are to slow to even see a slideshow. The BBC need to do something to block it.

iPlayer doesn't show any live content as far as I know.

I think actually its their live streaming which I guess is actually iplayer anyway.

iPlayer isnt live streaming,iPlayer is to watch things that have already been shown but that you missed/want to see again-also another response from Mosey on his BBC blog:

Back to F1: to stevvy in #79 - there's robust "geo-blocking" technology in place on the BBC and similar websites. It's a challenge in a digital world, but rights management obligations have to be met - and almost all major rights are confined to individual countries.

The rightsholder is Bernie and I believe he has stipulated in the contract with the BBC that the online service is not broadcast outside of the UK.
I'm outside of the UK and I get BBC 1/2 so can follow the race.
But it would have been nice to be able to follow practice sessions, which are not shown here, online.

To be fair it's the same for all countries when it comes to online coverage, they can only show it in that specific country and nowhere else (again no doubt due to it meaning bernie can ask for more money from each country to show the coverage online)

Apparantly, there's a interview with Eddie Jordan in this month's MotorSport magazine and he says he'll be interviewing Bernie Ecclestone every race. Well, that should be interesting....

If you're seriously thinking about it, I think you should look it up on some specialistic BB (there was a very good one in Poland called 'SkysunSAT', but it's been recently closed). But what I know is: you'd need a HUGE sattelite dish to watch FTA channels from Britain (I think BBC1 is FTA actually, but it needs confirming from someone who lives there) since the signal beam is directed onto the UK only and there's a lot of distortion of signal outside the UK. And I doubt very much you'd have the mysterious Red Button regardless of your paying or not the UK TV License. The License is all about receiving the signal legally, but it doesn't say you can't receive it when it's not paid. Plus I'm in doubt that they're gonna check it out in Poland.

I know the guys from the SKYsunSAT BB has made some tests and they were able to watch BBC (although there were some serious problems), even BBC NI if I remember correctly.

Anyway, good luck,for me it'd be unworthy since the quality of Polish coverage has gone up quite drastically.

Yes you are right - watching the rugby live now via their website on something called BBCmediaplayer, whilst iplayer has currently got last nights match under the rugby section.

Interestingly there is a button on the sport website to switch betwen UK and International versions of the site - the live rugby being available on both (although as I am in the UK it isnt clear if the live stream would be blocked to a non UK IP - presumably it would)

It would, I imagine they will display the same sort of message as they do on their radio programmes when something comes on they don't have the rights to broadcast online.

If you don't have a british IP, or attempt to go through a proxy you get this message: "Cannot play media. Sorry, this media is not available in your territory."

"Andrew Knight asks whether cost issues are conditioning our thinking about Formula 1 and HD - the answer is no, not really. A decision about F1 and HD sits primarily with the rights holder (F1/Bernie Ecclestone), rather than with the BBC. We are keen to do it as soon as possible."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/danielle_nagler/

Yes, I watched the Wales V England match live on the bbc site from Holland, using a paid for anonymous UK proxy service.

You guys are right and I sincerely apologize. There's indeed no way to break bbc's internet feed. You must pay the 139£ fee to be able to watch it. And have a UK home ip address and a house there. Vagabonds are also excluded.

So until further notice of nice links ( ) me self will stay with atlasf1 chat coverage (and my livetiming fia fee).

It's a pity really to lose those ITV friday practice sessions without comment. But a relieve acknowledging that I no longer need to listen improper tv language at sundays.



I'm also restricted for week ends of melbourne and malasia gp's to 2megas internet - allgarve again :\. So stay resumed in those days! George's bar isn't open that earlier.

Hopefully there's still Cristal before the sun raise.

Short interview with Jake Humphrey: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/mar/0...e-jake-humphrey

Says that he's a bit of an F1 fan and hopes that the BBC coverage won't become another Lewis-fest.

I agree with what he says. I think they'll focus on others... yes, I do expect one or two bits on Lewis but nothing to the extent of ITV last year.

Guys.... we'll be getting better coverage than Premiere this year... unfortunately for them they have got not one but TWO commercials for the race this year as opposed to none!

http://www.premium-solutions.de/files/pdf/...l.LIVESPLIT.pdf (page 3)

* Max. 2 LIVE-Splits während des Rennens

Translates to..... Max. 2 LIVE Split during running (or max. 2 live commercials during race).

I was thinking the same thing.

It's the BBC, I expect it to actually be worse.

How dare you!

that's not actually possible

I think you might want to hold fire on that comment until you see their first product, champ: there's no guarantee that they'll get things right, or even merely less wrong, just because it's the BBC.

I think Ross might be right, did you see any of the Fawning over James Toseland in last years MotoGP coverage ? and he was useless.


(My god I agreed with Ross, I feel like taking a shower )

And it was never that bad, infact there was more fawning our Rossi -- it got to the point where you could hear the disappointment in their voice when he didn't win!

Exactly. I find it very strange how people are expecting the BBC to be less biased when you look at their Moto GP coverage, at least with ITV, they were biased towards a driver who was actually in a position to win. BBC's coverage of Moto GP in general is piss poor in my opinion.

Bollocks, fawning?

They'd mention him a few times in the race but nothing like fawning over someone in the ITV style.

I guess you didn't watch the olympics and Team GB©

To be fair there has to be some level of home driver focus, he is after all the only British driver in F1 currently.. although Button will probably be around. You can't really expect them to be 100% unbiased in their coverage. And it's not as if they're in denial, Brundle said only last week that Alonso is the best all round driver in F1.

Like everything it will just come down to wait and see. But to expect them to ignore the British driver is a little unrealistic. It's like suggesting Spanish F1 coverage shouldn't get excited over Alonso.. or to suggest RTL never got excited over Schumacher every race.

Is that a good comparison though? The Olympics is once every four years and typically Britain does fairly rubbish in it, so I can understand why the BBC focused their efforts on the team when they bucked the trend. Saying that, there was from what I saw, quite a wide selection of other nations either via the red button or in the highlights programme in the evening (Phelps, Bolt etc).

I could stand the Toseland coverage in MotoGP, the Button coverage when he was nowhere was worse on ITV tbh.

i wouldnt watch the olympics if it was the last sporting event on earth

i don't expect them to ignore him (partly because hes british,partly because its a british channel,and obviously also because hes the world champion) but i dont expect to tune into the lewis hamilton show for every quali and race programme,and have lewis shoved down my throat during the commentary

And what was wrong with that?

It's outrageous, surely, for the British Broadcasting Corporation to get excitable about British success.

A little OT, but have you guys seen what they are chatting about over on BBC's 606:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A48095373
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A48080496
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A48061406
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A48053702

They must have had a bit to drink (or are simply trolling) because that is not going to happen anytime soon.

Id prefer the BBC provide a balanced view of whatever it is covering.

I had the pleasure of being in the glorious US of A during the Olympics. NBC (or whomever it was) actually changed the order of the medal table (it's total # of medals, dontcha know, not the colour that count) to ensure that the US came top. They also fawned in every way possible on Michael Phelps, with stories about Phelps mum, Phelps school friends, Phelps ex girlfriend etc etc for three weeks.

But then that's obvious - since the Olympics features sports that no one cares about for 99% of the time, then the broadcastor needs to focus on patriatic hero stories to drum up interest. I expect the BBC did just the same. That says nothing about how F1 will be treated.

What Olympic team were you expecting the British TV coverage to focus on then, moron?!

Like American TV does

Compared to the TV that I've viewed in other countries it does gives a reasonably balanced view, but as it is the BBC and for home consumption I fully expect it to give priority to the British team.

Yeah because American TV or Slovakian TV is completely relevant...


I'm just saying don't expect a lot from the BBC coverage.