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Ali_G
Just saw an add on BBC for their F1 coverage.

Good news is that they played the Chain at the end of it.
ashnathan
ami the only person who thinks the chain is quite average? obviously it means nothing to me as i live in australia and never had it to open the coverage, but what is so good about it?
wingwalker
Originally posted by kids like ash
ami the only person who thinks the chain is quite average? obviously it means nothing to me as i live in australia and never had it to open the coverage, but what is so good about it?


The full song blows donkeys. But bit used in BBC intro? Class.
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by kids like ash
ami the only person who thinks the chain is quite average? obviously it means nothing to me as i live in australia and never had it to open the coverage, but what is so good about it?
The final solo is what it's all about, and it's iconic when played for F1 coverage in this country.
ashnathan
It just seems so dated and...dull? F1 needs an energetic type of feel to it i think?
D.M.N.
Originally posted by kids like ash
It just seems so dated and...dull? F1 needs an energetic type of feel to it i think?


You realise what would happen if the BBC didn't choose The Chain... the vast majority of people would be annoyed; a quote I heard said it would have been "suicidal" not to choose The Chain. I mean, what sounds better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs_VC24304Q

or....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvzLk9hChTc (from 03:00 onwards)
ashnathan
yes yes i get it, i spose its more a tradition type thing? like..the chain IS F1 on bbc so to speak?
jokuvaan
Is BBC planning any net-feed, like ITV had ?

They list this: "live online streaming"
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Thanks for fast information D.M.N., I live in Finland and this looks very promising indeed, far better than ITV stream was.
D.M.N.
Originally posted by kids like ash
yes yes i get it, i spose its more a tradition type thing? like..the chain IS F1 on bbc so to speak?


Correct.

Originally posted by jokuvaan
Is BBC planning any net-feed, like ITV had ?


If you are watching online and in the UK, you will get everything that's on the Red Button at a race weekend, which is:
- All practice sessions, qualifying and race
- Interactive forum after the race
- Onboard feed during the race*
- Archive footage (they will be showing full highlights from one of the races; more info here)
- Full race available for up to 30 days on BBC iPlayer, with highlights on the main BBC Sport website**

* = there is confusion regarding whether it'll be available online for practice and qualifying at the moment; no one seems to know a definitive answer.
** = jb26 stated a few days ago that rolling "re-runs" will be on the Red Button; don't know if that includes online or not.

If you do not live in the UK, and do not have a TV license, you get nothing.
Ross Stonefeld
Originally posted by D.M.N.


You realise what would happen if the BBC didn't choose The Chain... the vast majority of people would be annoyed; a quote I heard said it would have been "suicidal" not to choose The Chain. I mean, what sounds better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs_VC24304Q

or....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvzLk9hChTc (from 03:00 onwards)


Are you tuning in to watch a Grand Prix or listen to a theme tune?
D.M.N.
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld


Are you tuning in to watch a Grand Prix or listen to a theme tune?


A Grand Prix, I was answering kids like ash's question hence I provided the links, is there something... wrong with that?
MinT
Originally posted by D.M.N.


You realise what would happen if the BBC didn't choose The Chain... the vast majority of people would be annoyed;


The vast majority on here maybe - the majority of viewers I am sure would get over it pretty quick lol.gif
dank
Originally posted by D.M.N.


You realise what would happen if the BBC didn't choose The Chain... the vast majority of people would be annoyed; a quote I heard said it would have been "suicidal" not to choose The Chain. I mean, what sounds better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs_VC24304Q

or....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvzLk9hChTc (from 03:00 onwards)


WTF was that last video about?!!
stevvy1986
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld


Are you tuning in to watch a Grand Prix or listen to a theme tune?


could say the same about MOTD,eastenders,corrie,and basically every other programme that has a tune thats symbollic to the programme its used for
stevvy1986
Originally posted by jokuvaan
Is BBC planning any net-feed, like ITV had ?

They list this: "live online streaming"
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Thanks for fast information D.M.N., I live in Finland and this looks very promising indeed, far better than ITV stream was.


not sure how it looks very promising if you live in finland-without a UK tv licence and without living in the UK,you'll get nothing online
Ross Stonefeld
Originally posted by stevvy1986


could say the same about MOTD,eastenders,corrie,and basically every other programme that has a tune thats symbollic to the programme its used for


I wouldn't notice or care as long as the program I was watching was good. Nostalgia is a powerful emotion but it becomes a problem when it becomes the overwhelming emotion.
MrAerodynamicist
They already stream all their channels live on iplayer, and I gather they're quite accurate at limiting it to UK IP's. The only way around it is to find yourself a UK based proxy.
jokuvaan
you'll get nothing online

BBC can ip-control who gets the data but cant control what happens to data in valid receiving end. Of course I'm not 100% sure what channel I will be watching.

The only way around it is to find yourself a UK based proxy.

They have ban list on proxies they know of, so its not so straightforward this time.
ashnathan
BLOODY HELL!
ensign14
Quite right too. I don't want you all glomming on what I've paid for.
Imperial
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld


Are you tuning in to watch a Grand Prix or listen to a theme tune?


At what point are you going to accept people obviously do care about this? (rightly or wrongly)
Ross Stonefeld
Oh I have noticed they care.
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Oh I have noticed they care.
He said accept, not notice.
Ross Stonefeld
I don't think it's a philosophical issue where I am questioning whether these people believe what they believe. Part of what makes this BB incredible at times is that I think people really do type what they are thinking and aren't just having a giggle.
Trebor152
So is there any word on the rumoured 'GrandPrix Night' or whatever it was called?
Apollonius
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
I don't think it's a philosophical issue where I am questioning whether these people believe what they believe. Part of what makes this BB incredible at times is that I think people really do type what they are thinking and aren't just having a giggle.



The real question is: Why do you care that they care about a piece of music? What's worse?
Massa_f1
Grand Prix is not happening, doubt it ever was tbh.
D.M.N.
Originally posted by Trebor152
So is there any word on the rumoured 'GrandPrix Night' or whatever it was called?


No word on it. Official schedule should be known by mid week, which will ever confirm this or deny it fully.

Originally posted by Massa_f1
Grand Prix is not happening, doubt it ever was tbh.


I wouldn't say it's a "definite no-no" last I heard is that it would be in a "reduced form" although things have gone quiet on that front. Check my recent post here on Digital Spy commenting on BBC's "provisional" March 29th schedule (which definitely will change).
Trebor152
I always try and avoid the massive amount of bitching on these forums but it has occured to me that some people are writing absolute crap. There have been so many rumours this year that seem to of had no basis at all, yet it has been written as if it were certain. Things like the blue and red Brawn car, or this Grandprix night. I could be wrong, but its looking doubtfull.
D.M.N.
Originally posted by Trebor152
I always try and avoid the massive amount of bitching on these forums but it has occured to me that some people are writing absolute crap. There have been so many rumours this year that seem to of had no basis at all, yet it has been written as if it were certain. Things like the blue and red Brawn car, or this Grandprix night. I could be wrong, but its looking doubtfull.


No, we are not writing "absolute crap". The information I have posted on this thread is not "crap", it is information from employees at the Beeb, JasonSw (who has commented on this thread several times), jb26 (works for BBC Red Button) and ariusuk (sports producer).

What has been written on this thread is not crap, but simply things that have "changed", plans change over months due to circumstances, its not "crap" as you put it but simply plans that have changed.

And actually, a lot of the things jb26 has said on DS has come true, so I wouldn't say people are writing "absolute crap". (On the other hand, I could have chosen not to start a thread up over here about BBC's F1 coverage, but I chose to so you guys could discuss the plans).
Trebor152
Originally posted by D.M.N.


No, we are not writing "absolute crap". The information I have posted on this thread is not "crap", it is information from employees at the Beeb, JasonSw (who has commented on this thread several times), jb26 (works for BBC Red Button) and ariusuk (sports producer).

What has been written on this thread is not crap, but simply things that have "changed", plans change over months due to circumstances, its not "crap" as you put it but simply plans that have changed.

And actually, a lot of the things jb26 has said on DS has come true, so I wouldn't say people are writing "absolute crap". (On the other hand, I could have chosen not to start a thread up over here about BBC's F1 coverage, but I chose to so you guys could discuss the plans).


First of all I didnt mention any names, because I didnt look any up. I dont think plans change as dramatically as we are told [e.g the brawn trucks have been painted allready, then they turn up white].

Im fairly sure that if you hadnt started the thread some one else would have.

And oh look, ive been sucked into the bitching. great.
Dalton007
Fleetwood Mac's The Chain is a classic song. up.gif
Imperial
Originally posted by Trebor152


First of all I didnt mention any names, because I didnt look any up. I dont think plans change as dramatically as we are told [e.g the brawn trucks have been painted allready, then they turn up white].

Im fairly sure that if you hadnt started the thread some one else would have.

And oh look, ive been sucked into the bitching. great.


In defense of DMN, he/she has posted tons of information.

Most has turned into reality some hasn't, but it's not DMN's fault.

You do understand that as a massive corporation the BBC is fully entitled to run with a ton of provisional ideas, reserves the right to change it's mind and generally does change it's mind about a lot of stuff.

You can argue until the cows come home about whether it's right or wrong to post some stuff which may be seen as speculation, but the old adage about BB's stands, which is if you aren't interested in the thread, don't read it.
Trebor152
Im interested in the thread but get frustrated with all the misleading info that gets posted. Im not talking exclusively about this one either. Just seems alot of people are like 'well my cousin's second step uncle twice removed girlriends ex room mate delivered a pizza to luca demontezemalo's brother in law - therefore, i should know....'
dank
Originally posted by Trebor152
Im interested in the thread but get frustrated with all the misleading info that gets posted. Im not talking exclusively about this one either. Just seems alot of people are like 'well my cousin's second step uncle twice removed girlriends ex room mate delivered a pizza to luca demontezemalo's brother in law - therefore, i should know....'


Welcome to the Internet! wave.gif
Imperial
Originally posted by Trebor152
Im interested in the thread but get frustrated with all the misleading info that gets posted. Im not talking exclusively about this one either. Just seems alot of people are like 'well my cousin's second step uncle twice removed girlriends ex room mate delivered a pizza to luca demontezemalo's brother in law - therefore, i should know....'


There are a decent amount of fakers spread across the Atlas forums and a few who have been/are on the distant fringes of motorsport in some form and like to pretend they are major players in the F1 paddock, but on the other hand you have people like DMN who has been proven to be passing on geniune information, Bradley Lord from F1 Racing magazine posts here, I'm fairly convinced Mark Hughes is a lurker if not a poster, and then you have guys on TNF who have been/are on first name terms with some top guys in racing history (including F1 and Indycar) and even people who have the telephone numbers of those who were close to such as Jimmy Clark, including/not to mention the various current journalists/writers that still post on TNF.

You do need a good solid working BS detector/sifter when reading certain people who think they are celebrities on here, but also don't underestimate how many genuine people are around.
pRy
Personally I think Fuji TV have the intro crown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqOUvr5kFlo
Dalek Caan
I hope the coverage is less centered around Lewis than ITV coverage was. I can understand why they do it, but that is no compensation for people who support other drivers/teams.
Al.
Originally posted by Dalek Caan
I hope the coverage is less centered around Lewis than ITV coverage was. I can understand why they do it, but that is no compensation for people who support other drivers/teams.


Your wish could be granted, the 2007/8 Lewis Hamilton and friends show, could became the Jenson Button show.
Imperial
Originally posted by Al.

the 2007/8 Lewis Hamilton and friends show, could became the Jenson Button show.


So that's basicallly a repeat but on a different channel?
pRy
Originally posted by Dalek Caan
I hope the coverage is less centered around Lewis than ITV coverage was. I can understand why they do it, but that is no compensation for people who support other drivers/teams.


Appreciate your point but the coverage is in his home country, so you will expect some favouritism.. in the same way Brazilian coverage will go nuts over Massa, Spanish coverage will focus on Alonso and how German coverage used to focus on Schumacher. There is nothing wrong with the home broadcaster spending a lot of tiem talking about the home driver. It will never be impartitial. Just as long as they feature some other drivers to equal things out, it will be fine.
MinT
I wonder if there is this "dont show support for the home drivers" thing in any country other than UK ?
dank
This article annoys me greatly: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7947575.stm

Did they perhaps let the work experience boy loose on it?
Rinehart
Can anyone tell me/point me in the direction of the BBC schedule of coverage for the Australian GP weekend - is it published yet?

Thanks.
dank
Originally posted by Rinehart
Can anyone tell me/point me in the direction of the BBC schedule of coverage for the Australian GP weekend - is it published yet?

Thanks.


It's not like you could have gone to the BBC F1 website and blammo! It's there? lol.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7755219.stm
stevvy1986
Originally posted by pRy


Appreciate your point but the coverage is in his home country, so you will expect some favouritism.. in the same way Brazilian coverage will go nuts over Massa, Spanish coverage will focus on Alonso and how German coverage used to focus on Schumacher. There is nothing wrong with the home broadcaster spending a lot of tiem talking about the home driver. It will never be impartitial. Just as long as they feature some other drivers to equal things out, it will be fine.


thing is ITV basically seemed to forget/ignore the fact there were 2 other home drivers on the grid last year in JB and DC (regardless of how poor the cars were etc, as home drivers they should have got more coverage-ITV was the 'Lewis and Anthony Hamilton Show' and i sincerely hope the BBC dont let it be the same thing this year-theres more than 1 home driver (JB as well as LH, and JB looks like he could be potentially doing rather well this season) and more than 1 driver on the grid full stop
Rinehart
Originally posted by dank


It's not like you could have gone to the BBC F1 website and blammo! It's there? lol.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7755219.stm


Its not the most obvious of links is it. (Poor excuse)! Thanks mate.
Dalton007
The website is a complicated mess.

On the left hand side: links to all sub-section i.e. news is required.

Keep it simple.
Blythy
there's a look forward to the bbc coverage in a top gear supplement out now. Looks like it's gonna be more comprehensive than I thought.

although, there's a very very worrying quote "we intend to make them [the drivers] into emotionally identifiable people, into 'heroes' and 'villains'" I've got no problem with trying to get them to be better than the sponsor covered mess of a robot that they are at the moment, but portraying someone as twirling a tash maybe going a bit far.
orges
Does anyone know if BBC coverage will be broadcasted on the Internet too? Here coverage is really poor, commentators mix up driver names and cars and they dont evenn look at live timing at least to see whos on a quick lap
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