You still have the option of switching off for 15 minutes if you want. Personally I want to see the whole race.

Feel free to head outside for five minutes every now and then and search through your litter to look through those adds you throw away if ad breaks is what you're after. For me I want to see the whole race, your logic is flawed because you are expecting every one to have the same opinion on the races as you. Pretty sure most of us want to watch the whole race.

is that the point? no,the point is do i want the race interrupted with trash adverts, which means i may miss something in the race, or do i want to have it advert free and be able to see the whole race?which would you prefer?to miss something major in the advert break and have to wait 3mins to find out whats happened, and by then the whole excitement of the incident has basically already passed,or watch it happen live?the races don't have to be interesting from start to finish (though that'd be nice) but its a helluva lot better if you can see the whole race and know you're not missing anything, than missing 15mins of the race due to pathetically pointless adverts and think 'i hope im not missing anything while watching these adverts' so your comment that me and others dont have a point,is basically pointless,because we do have a point-even a dull race can be made a bit more interesting if something major happens...........last thing i or anyone else wants is to miss the 1 major part of a race because we're sat watching an advert for toilet cleaner

And yet, there's nothing of note that you've missed since ITV had the coverage, even if it meant watching a replay when they came back from a break: hardly the world crushing ailment that you seem to suggest it has been. But then, like most things on this thread, it's given folks a chance to have a moan, so booyah for the BBC.

Frankly, the ads were a blessing for me: I generally watch the starts and then leave for the airport and watch the coverage when I get home, so the ads mean it's obvious which are the really boring bits to zap through. Now I'll have to zap through bits of the race instead. Oh well.

Personally I'm looking forward to the inevitable moaning about the BBC coverage: that should be a giggle.

- Hungary 1997: viewer missed Hill overtake Schumacher
- Nurburgring 1997: viewer went to commercial with a McLaren one-two; viewer came back from commercial to see Villeneuve leading
- Imola 2005: poorly timed advert
- Suzuka 2006: viewer went to commercial seeing smoke in the distance
- Brazil 2007: viewer missed Hamilton slow down
- Turkey 2008: viewer almost missed Hamilton take the lead

I won't list me, because I don't see the point.

There is nothing in the world better than seeing it live. I don't want to see it one minute later, two minutes later or five minutes later. Breaks ruin the excitement of live sport. Fact.

how ever so tragic for you nothing like being miserable eh why on earth would i or anyone else rather miss something during an ad break and then seeing it on a replay 3mins later when its already happened and potentially the race has been turned on its head,when i can see it as it happens instead?and just because theres adverts, doesnt mean its a boring part of the race...........some races strangely enough have action and incident all the way through,yet still we had to put up with adverts-personally i get the impression you're 1 of those that are almost on a crusade to basically rip the BBC coverage to pieces even if theres no actual reason to do so

agree,and of course theyre not the only such incidents we've missed live

No, I'm just not willing to proclaim it as the second coming until I've at least seen some of their coverage. But feel free to keep misinterpreting my comments, champ.

Surely, with all the fuss you were making, I would've thought you could've come up with a bigger list than that.

No one is denying that ad breaks are annoying, what I'm arguing against is your silly statement. Eurosport's Moto GP coverage despite having advertisements is superior to the BBC's and I think most would agree with me on that. Not every broadcaster gets its income from licence payer's money.

he probably could have come up with a bigger list than that if he went through every single race(britain 03 when the lunatic ran on the track,safety car came out,everyone made pitstops,none of that was seen live as it should have been(itv were going to a break anyway before they noticed the guy on track so wasnt anything to do with not wanting to risk showing him being hit by a car)) also the number of times they came back from safety car periods and missed the opening half a lap of the restart wasnt that clever either,no doubt they could have cut the breaks short by 30secs or whatever once they knew the safety car would be coming in,not helped either by the fact we had the short advert bit at the start/end of each break as well as itvs short f1 bit at the beginning and end of each ad break too,which from both sides of the ad break probably added another 20secs

How can you say that when it is 12 years ago that the BBC stopped showing F1. We can only guess what their broadcast will be like in the future.

I was talking about Moto GP

Ooooops, that will teach me to back read the thread.

I'm not on about MotoGP. In fact, I prefer MotoGP's coverage on Eurosport.

Frankly, there are a great many snobs who always insist that the BBC is superior to commercial TV even though this is patently not the case.

I was very impressed with the ITV coverage (even with Allen!) and the ad breaks are no big deal. In fact they give the perfect opportunity to go and have a leak!

Better to miss some action due to no mistake of your own than to miss some action because you chose the wrong time to go for a leak!

I agree. I think a big publically-funded corporation like the BBC has far more room for sloppy practice than a commerical television operator.

That said, the new BBC Formula One promo running this evening is very funny...

I obviously have better bladder control than you then, as I have no problem lasting the whole race, and even if I did need to go I'm not that weak willed that I could only do it when the ads are on. They may not be a big deal for you, but for me they are, and always have been, better to miss no action at all or at worst a couple of minutes for the weak of bladder rather than 15 minutes each race.

As to the snobbery bit I think your wrong. In general the BBC do do a much better job of sports presenting compared to ITV, thats not to say it will be the case in F1. Come the actual race it will be exactly the same other than the commentator as they don't control the image, but the ads are the clincher for me.

Starting this upcoming Friday and every Friday of an F1 race weekend: Inside F1 on the BBC News Channel @ 18:45. This programme will summarise the events of Friday Practice as well as discuss the day's events.

Haven't been online for weekend, catching up:

- Onboard looks certain for Qualifying. The Freeview channel 302 schedule looks like:
-- 02:55 - FP3
-- 04:05 - F1 News
-- 05:00 - Qualifying
-- 07:15 - Qualifying Re-Run



jb26 quote:



The schedule for the complete weekend on Red Button looks like:
Friday 27th March 2009
1.25-3.05 - 302 - Formula One: Practice One
5.25-7.05 - 302 - Formula One: Practice Two

Saturday 28th March 2009
2.55-4.05 - 302 - Formula One: Practice Three
4.05-5.00 - 302 - Formula One News
5.00-7.15 - 302 - Formula One: Qualifying
7.15-9.30 - 302 - Formula One: Qualifying

Sunday 29th March 2009
4.00-6.00 - 301 - Formula One (Quali Rerun)
6.00-9.00 - 301 - Formula One (Audio and video options)
6.00-10.00 - 302 - Formula One (Rolling Highlights)
9.00-10.00 - 301 - Formula One (Forum analysis)
10.00-15.00 - 301 - Formula One (Rolling Highlights)
14.00-15.00 - 302 - Moto GP (Official test)
15.00-19.00 - 301 - Formula One (Rolling Highlights)
19.00-22.00 - 301 - Formula One (Rolling Highlights)

...and for those wondering what Charlie Webster is doing, you will probably see her running along London's streets in the London Marathon --> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=55676084372

D.M.N. any idea if the friday/saturday practice sessions will be re-run in full either on the red button or on the iplayer?as obviously during the european races alot of people will be at school/work and so wont see it at all

Someone posted on DS that they will only be screened live. Have to get myself a freeview box i think to make it easy to record.

We don't know yet whether it'll be rolling highlights for practice on Red Button. Probably won't be on iPlayer as Red Button programmes are never put on iPlayer. The full version, however, will be put on the BBC F1 website according to jb26.

Anyone noticed that with those silly Q&A things on each driver's profile, Kimi is the only driver to have refused to answer. Can't say I'm surprised. As if he is going to answer a question like "Keira Knightley or Angelina Jolie"!

Bit of news:
- Andrew Benson will be posting the result for the Australian past races tomorrow, with it being put on Red Button and website on Wednesday. Extended highlights are expected for the chosen race, but short 5-minute highlights for the four races not picked. I have no idea what happens in the event of a tie.
- No word on when CBBC commentary will debut, however it will cover the 6 to 14 age bracket, and will be more like Newsround or Blue Peter style.
- James Allen is flying out to Melbourne as revealed on his Twitter and on an interview with Hawksbee and Jacobs on TalkSport. I wonder if Martin will bump into him on the grid?
- Apparantly, Jonathan Legard's salary is two to three times bigger than that of James Allen's salary. When at ITV, Allen, it was believed, was paid in the region of £50,000 to £75,000 - Legard will be paid at least double that.

Some people above are disappointed with no preview. I was at first, however, seeing a few interviews and a lot more content on the actual website (see below), I'm not too bothered now. Roger Mosey commented on the issue a few days ago:



New content "blog wise" on the BBC website:
- Brundle on Alonso - video interview included with Ted Kravitz interviewing Alonso.
- Jake Humphrey writing a blog 35,000 feet in the air!.
- Tour around Force India HQ.
- Jonathan Legard's first blog - blogging on the Ferrari drivers and the "Alonso shadow". Link contains video interviews with Raikkonen and Massa. Lee McKenzie is interviewing Raikkonen, not too sure who it is interviewing Massa, although I think it's Legard.

Nice to see the guys interviewing Ferrari and Renault drivers, something ITV very rarely did.

Is that all? Our guy is at 38,800 and climbing...

http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2052

What does Martin Brundle really think of James Allen? I never heard stories of them going out for drinks together, so maybe they hate each other with a passion, like the rumours say?

BBC F1 Website top story: Hamilton reveals hunger for title

Hmm...

75K????? That just CANNOT be right. I find that almost impossible to believe.

I'd presume that's per year... which works out at approx £6,250 per month.

Which is nothing really. i would have expected tripple that.

I think that speaks volumes about his passion for F1.

I think it speaks volumes about his haggling skills.

At an event towards the end of last year (it may have been the Autosport Awards) Brundle spoke in front of an audience and stated that he and Allen got on fine and the shit stirring by ITV viewers on the Internet was never anything more than that.

probably closer to the destination

Still not bad considering you get to follow an entire f1 season, flights and accomodation all incusive. If I could commentate, I sure wouldn't turn it down!

FOR UK GUYS ONLY:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7960155.stm - FULL 1994 Australian GP Highlights (50 minutes)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7960132.stm - FULL 1986 Australian GP Highlights (40 minutes)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7951474.stm - 1986 Australian GP short highlights
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7951507.stm - 1991 Australian GP short highlights
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7951521.stm - 1994 Australian GP short highlights
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7951563.stm - 1996 Australian GP short highlights
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7951691.stm - 2007 Australian GP short highlights



http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/20...p_the_winn.html - Blog for Malaysia choice.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7958683.stm - Kubica interview

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jakehumphrey/20...e_warms_up.html - Jake Humphrey blog [pictures included]

It's just not enough money, maybe one year you'd do it but with hi sprofile he should be earning bags more than that.

Ah yes, the one with Hill, the other one with Hill, the one with Mansell, the one where Lewis made his debut... jeez talk about nationalistic bias.

2003 was amazing, but because no British driver had an impact the BBC are erasing it from records.

Doesn't it go something like:-

1 - do it for the first year for a pittance.
2 - be really good
3 - profit !

JA just failed at step2.

Bravo!

What's voted for is hardly the BBC's fault is it? It's also up on the website FOR UK USERS ONLY so I wonder who the majority want to watch......

Dear god, they give you loads of highlights and you have to complain.

To be honest, 1994 and 1986 would have been chosen regardless IMO.

And BTW, is David Coulthard not British? He won in 2003.

I'd love to know how much the BBC paid for the F1 rights: I'm prepared to bet that they paid well over the odds dispute the fact that ITV couldn't afford to continue. My sense is that they're always prepared to throw money away for an alleged 'prestige' rights package, because at the end of the day it's only public money.

If they had any balls they would have said: "Sure Bernie, we'll take it if your giving it away, otherwise feel free to talk to Bravo..."

Believe it or not around about the same as ITV.

Something well known which as been said a few times on Digital Spy Forums: ITV had archive rights to all rights 10 years before and after.... i.e. today is March 24th, 2009... they would have rights to everything that occured on March 24th, 1999 and afterwards. Problem is they never used their archive rights properly... one argument thrown up over there was that they could have rescreened races on ITV4.

That's insane: I can't believe they're spending that much in this climate. And I can't even watch the crap they have on the interweb, despite paying the licence fee.

It is the BRITISH Broadcasting Company... just thought I'd point that out, I'm not a great fan of the BBC.

Were I to have 5 minutes to scratch my ass I ,for one, would have loved to watch the crap they have on offer.....
But noooo...It's the same deal with my fully paid licence fee.
ACCESS DENIED.

Jp

Is that your firewall? I can see everything.


Amusingly American TV has been doing this for a while. They used to have an "F1 Decade" feature on SpeedTV where they'd show the corresponding GP from 10 years prior. I don't remember if it was the Saturday evening before the current GP, or on the weekend before to fill the gap. Amusingly they'd show the 1993 Monaco Grand Prix but with the 2003 commentators giving the play-by-play. Their attempts at reporting on it as live was amusing and admirable.