Wingnut
Mar 28 2009, 07:14
Originally posted by Yellowmc
Branson drops the "f" bomb.
Someone will complain to ofcom!
I thought it was the "b" bomb
damon_hill_fan2007
Mar 28 2009, 07:14
Originally posted by kar
Um....that was bad.
There's always a risk in getting what you asked for.
I think that's the case now. COME BACK JAMES ALL IS FORGIVEN!!!
why all the negativity on legard? i thought he was great. plus it was his first session, give him a chance to adjust to the tv style
Dalek Caan
Mar 28 2009, 07:15
Originally posted by Dalton007
Love the banter between Eddie and DC
I think EJ's cantankerism will begin to grate very soon.
wewantourdarbyback
Mar 28 2009, 07:17
Originally posted by Dalek Caan
I think EJ's cantankerism will begin to grate very soon.
Bloody hell we agree, I'm not a fan of EJ when he opens his mouth, but he says what he wants so I'm hoping that should bring interest.
Blythy
Mar 28 2009, 07:17
Originally posted by Dalek Caan
I think EJ's cantankerism will begin to grate very soon.
will begin? will?
what grated most today was having to see richard f'ing branson everywhere. He's the new Lewis' dad!
lokiman
Mar 28 2009, 07:17
Originally posted by Yellowmc
Branson drops the "f" bomb.
Someone will complain to ofcom!
As amusing as I would have found it if he had, he didn't. He just said, "I'm a lucky bastard".
Originally posted by Blythy
will begin? will?
what grated most today was having to see richard f'ing branson everywhere. He's the new Lewis' dad!
To be fair it was the big story of the day. At least until qualifying, doubt he will be at them all.
wewantourdarbyback
Mar 28 2009, 07:19
Anyone else waiting for the replay on 302?
Dalek Caan
Mar 28 2009, 07:19
And I am disgusted that Humphreys said we were gonna hear from the TOP THREE, yet after Button's words we cut to a PR stunt from the Smiling Assassin.
daishi255
Mar 28 2009, 07:20
Disappointed that they cut away from the press conference so quickly, though they were pressed for time it seems, as they only had 15 minutes after the session ended.
Commentary was a bit awkward, Brundle & Legard will obviously take a bit of time to get used to each other. Seems decent overall
I didn't mind EJ - and I think he's a knob - but he wasn't too bad. DC looked a bit lost (didn't know where to look when he wasn't speaking), but was otherwise okay.
Leggard was absolutely awful, like completely useless. Time will help him a lot, but the end of qualifying was lost in a complete mess of gibberish.
Originally posted by Dalek Caan
And I am disgusted that Humphreys said we were gonna hear from the TOP THREE, yet after Button's words we cut to a PR stunt from the Smiling Assassin.
Would have liked to hear what Vettel had to say.
stevvy1986
Mar 28 2009, 07:23
legard seemed to get confused a few times and miss when drivers were setting laptimes and where they were in the order, but i'm prepared to give him time-post session could probably do with being maybe 10mins longer so theres more chance of getting the full press conference in, but its the first session they've done as a team so wouldn't be too harsh, the'll get better
damon_hill_fan2007
Mar 28 2009, 07:28
overall very happy with the coverage - although was annoyed as they only showed button in the press conference - come on bbc, this is what itv would do - we want to hear from the top 3 drivers, not smug Branson!!!
wingwalker
Mar 28 2009, 07:29
I said it quite a few times here, and I will say it again: JA wasn't nearly half as bad as he was painted here (aside from Hamilton lovefest). But he was a knowledgeable guy who has seen tons of GP's from the pits and commentary box. This new guy sounds a bit like him, but he sounds very bland and didn't really knew what's going on at times. I'm a bit disappointed in Brundle - he should step up and give more of insights. I enjoyed the radio commentary of FP's much more.
D.M.N.
Mar 28 2009, 07:32
Originally posted by Dalek Caan
And I am disgusted that Humphreys said we were gonna hear from the TOP THREE, yet after Button's words we cut to a PR stunt from the Smiling Assassin.
I suspect that it'll be on the website within the next few hours. Good first show, thought Legard did OK (but it'll take time to make the proper transistion radio > TV). Hope the pictures don't fail again though.
se7en_24
Mar 28 2009, 07:35
I really enjoyed the five live commentary with the pictures. I tried Legard a few times but preferred the radio commentary. It's the first race though so I'll give him another chance sometime.
RoutariEnjinu
Mar 28 2009, 07:35
The guy that took over from Steve Rider did well I think. Polite and professional.
First episodes, and even seasons can be expected to be quite awkward. Especially off the back of ITV who, adverts aside, were no slouches.
I rate it thumbs up overall. A good start.
If they can put the full press conference on the website, I'll give them two thumbs up considering.
jondon
Mar 28 2009, 07:36
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Eddie Jordan is useless.
Why do you think he is useless?
He seemed a little uncomfortable at times but not afraid to speak his mind, Coulthard seems a little too close to his F1 career to shake off the corporate "please everybody" speak, but give him some time.... Coulthard did very well, and Jordan did very well too. Its very early days yet, and you are prepared to judge people on their first day on the job? I`ll bet you were a genius on your first day in any new job!
Would you prefer to have Billy Blundell spouting shite every time his lips move while Steve Ryder agreed with him like a nodding dog?
Garagiste
Mar 28 2009, 07:38
The odd mistake is perfectly acceptable for those who grew up with Murray.
Only reason DC looked a bit lost was because he was resisting the tempatation to chin EJ, I think he'll "use the heed" before the sesaon is out,
Would have liked to see the full PC certainly, but early doors, they'll get it I'm sure.
se7en_24
Mar 28 2009, 07:39
Originally posted by rolf123
I used plenty of logic. Let me repeat for you. Legard is suited to radio. In radio, there is a much greater emphasis on never having any silent moments because there is only audio to keep the audience happy. Legard is a radio man and he's not suited for TV. And even worse, he keeps competing with Brundle. Allen never did this. Allen was just the fanboy next to the calm anchorman of Brundle. Now Legard is like a bloody horse racing commentator!
rolf123, you should be happy tomorrow as there will be CBBC commentary which will probably cater to people of your mental age.
skid solo
Mar 28 2009, 07:42
Originally posted by kar
I didn't mind EJ - and I think he's a knob - but he wasn't too bad. DC looked a bit lost (didn't know where to look when he wasn't speaking), but was otherwise okay.
Leggard was absolutely awful, like completely useless. Time will help him a lot, but the end of qualifying was lost in a complete mess of gibberish.
It's amazing how opinions differ and I guess the old adage holds true that you can't please all the people all of the time!
Personally, I found Eddie Jordan incredibly opinionated and needy of attention, it was like watching someone try and subtly manipulate proceedings to become the Eddie Jordan Show! I wouldn't be surprised if the BBC regret his appointment. As a personality he is very black and white and defensive. I find it uncomfortable to watch him and just wished he would relax and shut up to be honest.
David Coulthard on the other hand was relaxed, concise, informed, courteous and accommodating and for me and my tastes a real quality addition to the team. I liked Humphreys, he is quick witted and enthusiastic and has a good repour with Coulthard. I reserve judgement on Legard, but his Gaff ..."And it's Barrichello exiting the pits" when Buttons name was on the screen, only to follow with "And Button is out on the track too" when he realised his mistake and tried to cover it up. What does he take us for? He is Walker..esq in his confusion without any of the Charisma that Murray had!
So to Sum up, Congratulations BBC for a good effort and having the sense to keep Brundle and Ted Kravitz and acquiring Coulthard and Humphreys but please find a way to get rid of Eddie Jordan!!
Finally maybe put Anthony Davidson with Brundle in the commentary box!!
wewantourdarbyback
Mar 28 2009, 07:43
Did no one else spot the slight 'dig' DC had at schumi earlier on while EJ was salivating over him when they were talking about Jenson?
MS engineered himself into the best car throughout his career.
skid solo
Mar 28 2009, 07:44
Originally posted by kar
I didn't mind EJ - and I think he's a knob - but he wasn't too bad. DC looked a bit lost (didn't know where to look when he wasn't speaking), but was otherwise okay.
Leggard was absolutely awful, like completely useless. Time will help him a lot, but the end of qualifying was lost in a complete mess of gibberish.
It's amazing how opinions differ and I guess the old adage holds true that you can't please all the people all of the time!
Personally, I found Eddie Jordan incredibly opinionated and needy of attention, it was like watching someone try and subtly manipulate proceedings to become the Eddie Jordan Show! I wouldn't be surprised if the BBC regret his appointment. As a personality he is very difficult and defensive. I find it uncomfortable to watch him and just wished he would relax and shut up to be honest.
David Coulthard on the other hand was relaxed, concise, informed, courteous and accommodating and for me and my tastes a real quality addition to the team. I liked Humphreys, he is quick witted and enthusiastic and has a good repour with Coulthard. I reserve judgement on Legard, but his Gaff ..."And it's Barrichello exiting the pits" when Buttons name was on the screen, only to follow with "And Button is out on the track too" when he realised his mistake and tried to cover it up. What does he take us for? He is Walker..esq in his confusion without any of the Charisma that Murray had!
So to Sum up, Congratulations BBC for a good effort and having the sense to keep Brundle and Ted Kravitz and acquiring Coulthard and Humphreys but please find a way to get rid of Eddie Jordan!!
Finally maybe put Anthony Davidson with Brundle in the commentary box!!
I think Jake? and DC is enough. Jordan is one too many ...
madbrummie
Mar 28 2009, 07:45
I really enjoyed the content and the emerging banter between Humphries, DC and EJ, they just need time to gel and get past the obvious nerves. Same with Brundle and Legard, i like his voice its not at all grating, they just need to get the team work sorted and the chemistry sorted out. On the whole a good promising start.
EJ came across as a complete tit. Otherwise I thought the whole telecast was fab.
Randall
Mar 28 2009, 07:50
yeah you get the feeling DC will poke EJ sooner than later.
It was a great qualifying though wasn't it, talkabout whetting the appetite.
I have always wanted Simon Taylor for the main commentator on the TV,but it don't look like that is ever gonna happen. But generally a good start by the Beeb,and thank God for Mac and The Chain, brilliant, twas filling me up...
Ross Stonefeld
Mar 28 2009, 07:50
Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
Did no one else spot the slight 'dig' DC had at schumi earlier on while EJ was salivating over him when they were talking about Jenson?
MS engineered himself into the best car throughout his career.
That was the only bit where I found Eddie Jordan saying something that was not only true but people seem incapable of admitting to. Jenson is very quick but he's no Michael Schumacher.
wewantourdarbyback
Mar 28 2009, 07:51
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
That was the only bit where I found Eddie Jordan saying something that was not only true but people seem incapable of admitting to. Jenson is very quick but he's no Michael Schumacher.
True, you could feel the 'DC defending his mate' in it.
stevvy1986
Mar 28 2009, 07:52
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
That was the only bit where I found Eddie Jordan saying something that was not only true but people seem incapable of admitting to. Jenson is very quick but he's no Michael Schumacher.

Button is no Schumacher-fast yes, Schumacher fast no
MrAerodynamicist
Mar 28 2009, 07:54
Other than EJ's man-crush on Bernie, I thought the trio worked well. Jake was the pleasant, non-confrontational host, DC came at it from a drivers perspective, and Eddie asked some interesting questions from the 'business' side. And at least EJ attempted to challenge Branson's publicity bandwagon...
D.M.N.
Mar 28 2009, 07:56
I thoroughly enjoyed the BBC's coverage. I have a soft spot for Eddie Jordan anyway, and DC and Legard were very promising. I loathe ITV and only watched their coverage under sufferance so I'm delighted that F1 has come "home" to the BBC.
skid solo
Mar 28 2009, 08:00
Originally posted by stevvy1986
Button is no Schumacher-fast yes, Schumacher fast no
3 tenths up on Barrichello is the same kind of gap Schumacher had.. I know I know Barrichello might have more fuel, but we will see tomorrow wont we! Don't write him off yet
stevvy1986
Mar 28 2009, 08:01
rubens said his car developed understeer, thats part of the reason for the gap
Thought the whole presentation was very good.
Also - has Blundell been to the gym followed by an education?
wewantourdarbyback
Mar 28 2009, 08:05
Originally posted by d246
Thought the whole presentation was very good.
Also - has Blundell been to the gym followed by an education?
Blundell
stevvy1986
Mar 28 2009, 08:05
blundell isn't part of the BBC team, brundle is (big difference, brundle is good, blundell is trash)
pippin
Mar 28 2009, 08:06
I thought the banter between EJ and DC was quite funny. Niggles developing already, nowt wrong with that.

I must admit I don't particularly like EJ but he definitely added something to the show and it was good to see DC keeping EJ in check.
Got to agree that Anthony Davidson would be great alongside Martin Brundle. His commentry on the practice sessions was top drawer, but I'll give Legard time yet. Its early days.
Overall I was happy with todays coverage. No adverts

Would also have liked to see the full press conference though.
D.M.N.
Mar 28 2009, 08:06
Originally posted by d246
Also - has Blundell been to the gym followed by an education?
At least DC and EJ have charisma, unlike Blundell.
Thought it was a good first effort.
Jake is basically a young Steve Rider which is fine, maybe with a touch more personality and humour about him.
Thought DC was good and EJ quite nervous. Not sure the idea of them asking questions etc is going to work well long term.
For me the slight let down was the commentary team. Legard fluffed quite a few words and needs to lose his radio gabble - but mainly they need to get their cues sorted out - way to much talking across each other.
Miles better than ITV though - good fair coverage of all drivers/teams. First Lewis feature not until 40 mins in.
Far less gloss and general fluff than ITV in a good way and also less treating the audience like complete idiots who have never seen a car before.
Hopefully they will maintain that for the main event tomorrow....
Flav787
Mar 28 2009, 08:14
Originally posted by skid solo
David Coulthard on the other hand was relaxed, concise, informed, courteous and accommodating and for me and my tastes a real quality addition to the team. I liked Humphreys, he is quick witted and enthusiastic and has a good repour with Coulthard. I reserve judgement on Legard, but his Gaff ..."And it's Barrichello exiting the pits" when Buttons name was on the screen, only to follow with "And Button is out on the track too" when he realised his mistake and tried to cover it up........
..........please find a way to get rid of Eddie Jordan!!
100% agreed with everything you say, I couldn't help but cringe as Eddie constantly tried to take any attention directed the way of DC (you're 60ish Eddie - it's about time you got over your insecurities

).
To be fair to Legard I think his problem is that he spends too much time looking at the timing screens and not enough focusing on the tv stream, e.g. when he was talking about the Brawn's exiting the pits Barrichello had indeed just left according to the timing screens, I don't think he even noticed Button leaving until it came up on the timing screens a few seconds later.........anyway I don't envy his job so I won't be passing judgement yet.
Overall a pretty good start for the BBC!
RoutariEnjinu
Mar 28 2009, 08:14
I actually liked the the input from EJ, DC and Jake.
Jake hosted it well, and EJ and DC were actually interesting to listen to and their views worth thinking about (whether you agreed or disagreed).
It's far better than Blundell droning on with Ready Salted flavoured filler. I just used to glaze over when Rider quized Blundell, subconsciously waiting for Steve to hand it back to the Commentary team, or to a video clip.
EJ and DC combo will start out cumbersome and awkward compared to how it will be later on. It's the same with everything. Even early Simpsons, although promising at the time, are rubbish compared to some of their later ones.
Wasn't too keen on Leggard. I think the best BBC combo would be the bloke that did FP1 Five Live commentary (not Antony Davison although he was fine) and Brundle.
craftverk
Mar 28 2009, 08:18
The chain is welcomed back, but unfortunately, the title sequence couldn't quite capture the intensity of the music... CGI cars? Bah.
As for the actual coverage... nothing groundbreaking, otherwise, it's more or less the same as ITV. One thing that I am particularly dissapointed in was the fact that EJ got more air time then he should've, surely they could've spared some time to actually show the entire post-quali press conference?
Overall didn't seem like a huge improvement, if any at all.
Only thing the BBC really improved on was the interactive features, I especially love the classic F1 race highlights.
chrcoluk
Mar 28 2009, 08:18
Hi guys and girls.
My thoughts are as follows.
On track commentary, brundle very good, the other guy worse than itv was but I agree with others I expect over time he will get better with experience, the bbc perhaps maybe need to ask him to let brundle take the lead.
Eddie Jordan seems to have a chip on his shoulder as he was moaning an aweful lot and he seemed to have a grudge against branson for refusing to sponsor him years back, as he asked direct on tv why he didnt do it. DC isnt getting on with EJ and I can see why, I expect the bbc will ask EJ to tone down some of his comments. Although he had a good point that mclaren will struggle to recover this year due to the new regulations which make it hard to buy yourself out of trouble.
They cut the press conference a big no no, I hope this isnt a trend for the season.
They also cut kubica and didnt interview any other drivers after qualifying ended, itv did at least interview more than 1 driver usually at the end.
When interviewing hamilton the bbc interviewer (not as good as itv's on this showing) seem to run out of questions after only 2 questions, even hamilton looked shocked by the lack of further questions.
They seemed too pro hamilton still, button is still flying the uk flag and came P1 a great result, but it was more about hamilton been down the grid than button's great drive.
Originally posted by chrcoluk
They seemed too pro hamilton still, button is still flying the uk flag and came P1 a great result, but it was more about hamilton been down the grid than button's great drive.
We were obviously watching different BBC's then. Lewis in 15th as current WDC is a story, whoever it is but i didnt think they over played that at all - ITV would of been hysterical by then. Lot of talk about Brawn/Button/Barrichello.
The end of their coverage was compromised by getting the Branson interview which I assume they would have viewed as a bit of a scoop in the circumstances but it crashed the press conference and any other driver interviews they may have had lined up.
RaymondMays
Mar 28 2009, 08:27
I was very pleased with the BBC coverage. I particularly liked the features with references to historic F1 and of course, the return of "The Chain". I'm also loving all the interactive content.
I thought DC did a great job for a first attempt at live. I thought EJ was a bit nervous and waffled too much, but maybe he'll improve. I was impressed with Jake Humphrey. My only disappointment was the lack of post qualifying conference and other interviews. Maybe that'll be up on the red button soon.
I can't wait for tomorrow. Early bed tonight methinks!
Well done BBC!
chrcoluk
Mar 28 2009, 08:30
MinT yes you right itv would have been far more pro hamilton. So that puts it into perspective.
se7en_24
Mar 28 2009, 08:34
Originally posted by RoutariEnjinu
I think the best BBC combo would be the bloke that did FP1 Five Live commentary (not Antony Davison although he was fine) and Brundle.
You can select the Five Live commentary with the red button, I preferred it.
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