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lokiman
I have to say, I'm finding the BBC coverage stunning. And, to top it off, you just press the red button after the race and you get even more post-race coverage and commentary. Great stuff.
wewantourdarbyback
lol.gif DC, Rubens manoeuvre reminds me of my own manoeuvre on Wurz there (and many many others DC).
MrAerodynamicist
Originally posted by lokiman
I have to say, I'm finding the BBC coverage stunning. And, to top it off, you just press the red button after the race and you get even more post-race coverage and commentary. Great stuff.

And it's decent analysis, rather than stating the obvious about the obvious taking points.
Hames Junt
Originally posted by lokiman
I have to say, I'm finding the BBC coverage stunning. And, to top it off, you just press the red button after the race and you get even more post-race coverage and commentary. Great stuff.


Absolutley excellent I'd say, really enjoyed it, watching the forum now.

Special thanks to D.M.N. for keeping us up to date since the switch was announced last year. up.gif
D.M.N.
Originally posted by Hames Junt
Special thanks to D.M.N. for keeping us up to date since the switch was announced last year. up.gif


Thanks.

First time I've felt like screaming @ EJ, him and DC nearly got into an argument about whether Vettel should have apologied to Mario Theisson or not...
djellison
Brilliant coverage. Brilliant extended post race coverage. Brilliant on-board web feed.

Those saying that we would all be disappointed by the switch are WRONG.
Hames Junt
Originally posted by D.M.N.


Thanks.

First time I've felt like screaming @ EJ, him and DC nearly got into an argument about whether Vettel should have apologied to Mario Theisson or not...


I'm loving the differences of opinions. Miles better than Blundell and Rider.
Blythy
this forum is pretty damn good. EJ is a tit though, It's always, always a better tactical decision to apologise - never know when it might come in useful.

hmm... no Brundle driver of the day - lets just assume it's button.
Apollonius
The BBC forum is excellent! This is the coverage we need!

Even Legard wasn't that bad today. Thumbs up! up.gif
wrighty
i'm glad i wasn't waiting to be one of the multiple e-mails they were going to discuss in the after-race 'forum' lol.gif one, was it? ah well, thankfully it's because there was so much action to discuss and they got plenty of faces across the screen (mario, vj, jenson and rubens, whitmarsh etc).......all in all a brilliant show i think kiss.gif welcome back Beeb clap.gif
dank
Originally posted by Matt Hughes
Bit of a longshot, but I don't suppose any of you folks know the piece the BBC used at the very start of their footage this morning in the build up to the intro?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00j6...ng/?src=a_syn30

I am sure I have heard it elsewhere, but can't quite put my finger on it...


It is Craig Armstrong & A.R. Rahman - Elizabeth: The Golden Age.
Anomnader
Where is the link to this BBC Forum?


The BBC is supposed to be responsive to accessibility issues but the navigation on the F1 site is hopeless cry.gif
FredF1
Originally posted by MrAerodynamicist

And it's decent analysis, rather than stating the obvious about the obvious taking points.




I loved the understated feel of the commentary.


No more Tell us what those round black things on each corner of the car are Martin

No more I was talking to Flavio Briatore last night and... Oh look, a car....... (anecdote left unfinished)

No more It's lap one, turn two, Jenson is in the lead and I will now talk about him winning the race as if it's a given until the chequered flag and ignore all the other drivers.

No more Forced hyperbole claiming that the most routine of slip ups etc are the best/worst thing to happen in F1 ever
ForeverF1
Originally posted by Hames Junt


Absolutley excellent I'd say, really enjoyed it, watching the forum now.

Special thanks to D.M.N. for keeping us up to date since the switch was announced last year. up.gif


+1 up.gif and thanks to the BBC, Top Job. up.gif
Buzaglo
I think the BBC were given a gift of a first GP - but the coverage was brilliant.

I was recording the on-board channel and expecting to watch the main channel mainly but I got sucked into watching the start live from onboard Massa's car. Terrific.

Even though I missed the carnage with Barrichello and Kovalainen, it was the immediacy of knowing you were hitching a ride LIVE with Massa and anything could happen. You can watch it later on replay and it doesn't have that punch anymore.

The forum is great. I hope the BBC don't try to dress it up and cover up the seams. It's a get together in the paddock after the big race and people should be dropping by, swapping seats, sound men should be crawling into vision to fix things - it should be loose and live and happening, er man. They are also perfectly placed for any late-breaking protests and revisions.

Jake Humphrey holds the whole thing together IMHO and sets the right tone throughout.

Looking forward to a great season.
D.M.N.
Originally posted by Anomnader
Where is the link to this BBC Forum?


The BBC is supposed to be responsive to accessibility issues but the navigation on the F1 site is hopeless cry.gif


You posted that comment at 10:15. The Forum ran from 09:00 to 10:00, so no, there would not be a link on the website after 10:00/after the conclusion of the programme, would there?
FonzCam
Originally posted by FredF1




I loved the understated feel of the commentary.


No more Tell us what those round black things on each corner of the car are Martin

No more I was talking to Flavio Briatore last night and... Oh look, a car....... (anecdote left unfinished)

No more It's lap one, turn two, Jenson is in the lead and I will now talk about him winning the race as if it's a given until the chequered flag and ignore all the other drivers.

No more Forced hyperbole claiming that the most routine of slip ups etc are the best/worst thing to happen in F1 ever


Couldn't agree more, the relaxed understated discussion in the 'forum' was also a welcome change. When you don't have to cut away to adverts or advertise prize draws and football matches you can actually have a real discussion about the issues.

Legard was much better today, still a few blips where he kept talking/explaining too long and missed the next on track incident (e.g. the start where I felt his commentary of JB dragged on and he missed the midfield crash) also there were a little too much reading the timing screen for me) But the relaxed feeling from the 1hr post race discussion and lack of commercial pressure made it a joy to watch
dank
My only bug-bear with the BBC is the actual website content. 'Gaff-spotting' has almost become a daily occurence now.

Today's: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7970488.stm

Red Bull's Sebastien Buemi made an impressive debut to secure one point in his first ever F1 Grand Prix.


Er...
trenchcoat
They should change it to the Brawn/Button Broadcasting corporation - the most biased commetry ever. Openly admitting they want Brawn to win rolleyes.gif
Anomnader
Originally posted by D.M.N.


You posted that comment at 10:15. The Forum ran from 09:00 to 10:00, so no, there would not be a link on the website after 10:00/after the conclusion of the programme, would there?


Well for starters I didn't know the time period as I didn't know where the place was located, so I wouldn't know that would I?

And for 2nd I started looking within the time period, and even so, it might be repeated like their radio shows.


Thanks for your help

rolleyes.gif
FonzCam
Originally posted by dank
My only bug-bear with the BBC is the actual website content. 'Gaff-spotting' has almost become a daily occurence now.

Today's: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7970488.stm



Er...


Hardly unique to the beeb, Autosport currently have Sutil and Fisichella driving Force India-Ferrari's!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74038
lwd
Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Anyone else preferring the 5 Live commentary via interactive? Davidson is brilliant.


Have to agree with this. Davidson is fantastic and Croft is also good. I like Brundle too, but I'm not too sure about Legard...
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by trenchcoat
They should change it to the Brawn/Button Broadcasting corporation - the most biased commetry ever. Openly admitting they want Brawn to win rolleyes.gif


Ah yes, those bastards whishing for the fairytale to happen, bring back ITV, I do so miss hearing that slurping sound James made when he 'talked' about Lewis with that beautiful balance, the way that Steve never ever said he wanted Lewis to win...ever... would have never even thought of doing that.

you BBC you biased wankers.



Anyway, may I add my thanks to DMN for this thread, been glued to it all winter clap.gif
roadie
After my watching pretty much just qualifying and the race (I don't bother with the pre-race stuff) here are my thoughts on the faces of the show:

Jake Humphrey up.gif Very natural, much better than Ryder and Rosenthal.
DC up.gif Again extremely natural and confident in front of the camera. Great analysis, his experience of the cars shows. No Blundelisms for Sniff Petrol to parody!
EJ down.gif The third wheel of the analysis team. Really not needed in my opinion and seems to disagree with DC on purpose?
Legard up.gif Just about right. Croft may just shade him though.
Brundle up.gif Yep, as normal here. Davidson is excellent too.
Lee McKenzie confused.gif Just a younger, prettier version of that ITV bird?
Kravitz confused.gif Knows the guys at Brawn and McLaren, and that's it. If he branched out to cover the other teams he would add a lot more.

Overall, it's a good show for the BBC in my view. One thing that is slightly disappointing is the level of digital noise during the race from the broadcast over Freeview, which appears to be greater than the action in MOTD for instance. I guess this is to do with the FOM equipment though. However, it does seem better than when it was broadcast on ITV.
SirSaltire
WELL DONE BBC!

On the whole the BBC team did a great job and I thought the 'Forum' was fantastic with the exception of EDDIE JORDAN.

Someone needs to take him aside and teach him how to do it! He kept lowering his microphone so that you could hardly hear him. He kept waving his notes about in front of his face when he was talking. His position in relation to the camera was often 'awkward' and what he had to say most of the time was quite banal.

Do us all a favour BBC and drop him quick.
Gamma Goblin
From the BBC interactive forum:

JAKE: Now lets talk about Ferrari....

EJ: ok, michaelschumachermichaelschumachermichaelschumachermichaelschumacher.....

Did Eddie Jordan ever shut up about him during the entire broadcast?

He was the only downside of a great job by the BBC

Anthony Davidson's insights during the race were especially welcome
giltkid
Originally posted by trenchcoat
They should change it to the Brawn/Button Broadcasting corporation - the most biased commetry ever. Openly admitting they want Brawn to win rolleyes.gif


So you'd rather listen to James Allen's simpering homoerotic fanboy worship of Hamilton? Anyway I think if you looked all the way back to Murray Walker years you'd find that British drivers with a chance to win were (rightly) cheered on. Its been a bad harvest this year judging by all the sour grapes around. wave.gif
The July Plot
The BBC have been amazing, they get an A + from me, if only because that has enabled me to have a absolutely fantastic 3 screen viewing experience, which you can see here. clap.gif
giltkid
In defence of Eddie Jordan at least the sparks that fly between him and Coulthard keep it entertaining. A lot of his points of reference seem to date from when he was in F1 though - wonder if he's had his eye off the ball in recent years. The BBC's coverage is marvellous overall - I can remember when it was 1/2 an hour on Sunday night
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by The July Plot
The BBC have been amazing, they get an A + from me, if only because that has enabled me to have a absolutely fantastic 3 screen viewing experience, which you can see here. clap.gif
I hate you wave.gif
SirSaltire
Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
I hate you wave.gif
You seem to have some hate for me also M8! Please enlighten me how I would incorporate a Poll into an already established thread?
rolf123
Lee McKenzie is fit but not a very good interviewer. Was it her during FP who was quoting some random stats that she looked up in a book that common sense would have told you were BS? Crofty corrected her.

They should have signed up Louise Goodman.
Ross Stonefeld
Or how about hiring a man who can do the job better?
kilcoo316
Originally posted by Kenaltgr

DC was impartial and completely honest. Jordan was talking nonsense and ignored the fact that this IS the first time in Button's entire F1 career that he is in the fastest car. Unlike Schumacher who had the fastest car for most of his career. DC said lets try to compare schumacher if he was driving the same cars as button had for his career.


Bullshit he was. DC was being neutral... he doesn't have the balls to have an opinion that might annoy anyone he knows.


Are you trying to say Button is as good as Schumacher.


Oh, and when did you start watching F1? 2001?


Because before that, Schumacher never had the fastest car in the field. Not once (averaged over a whole season).


Indeed, you could make the argument he only had the fastest car in 3 years on the grid. 2001, 2002 and 2004.


'Fastest car for most of his career'? lol.gif
SirSaltire
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Or how about hiring a man who can do the job better?
LOL Ouch!
Anomnader
Originally posted by lwd


Have to agree with this. Davidson is fantastic and Croft is also good. I like Brundle too, but I'm not too sure about Legard...


Thats the good thing about the BBC, the radio listern again service, at work tomorrow, I'll have my ear phones and listern to the race again but this time from the radio 5 perspective.
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by SirSaltire
You seem to have some hate for me also M8! Please enlighten me how I would incorporate a [B]Poll into an already established thread? [/B]
well... 2 jokes rolleyes.gif I was hardly being serious in either.

You can't, but tbh did it require a poll when there's a few pages of it in here?

No hate, just very sarcastic wave.gif
D.M.N.
EJ/DC debate: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7970618.stm
Alfisti
Someone had a work to JL post qualy, his race effort was much better, he figured out he could shu tup for a bit. Not a fan of his voice though TBH.
SirSaltire
Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
well... 2 jokes rolleyes.gif I was hardly being serious in either.

You can't, but tbh did it require a poll when there's a few pages of it in here?

No hate, just very sarcastic wave.gif
Fair enough but when I feel serious about something I like to guage the views of others with a Poll so that I know if I am 'out on a limb'.
zahistorics
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Or how about hiring a man who can do the job better?


Wow! good to see sexism is alive and well down.gif redface.gif

There are women out there who know their subject.

F1 needs someone like Suzy Perry (Moto GP) or Penny Mallory (WRC)

Vick Butler-Henderson maybe? (if they could tempt her away from Five)
SirSaltire
Originally posted by Alfisti
Someone had a work to JL post qualy, his race effort was much better, he figured out he could shu tup for a bit. Not a fan of his voice though TBH.

I also thought he was better in the race. Still spoke too much in my opinion but I will give him time to settle into the change before I make my mind up. But as for EJ - He has to go.
Ross Stonefeld
No it's sexism when you hire someone to be the token female in your lineup regardless of whether they can do the job.
zahistorics
Originally posted by Alfisti
Someone had a work to JL post qualy, his race effort was much better, he figured out he could shu tup for a bit. Not a fan of his voice though TBH.


I think that the whole bunch were called in for a word. All much better today. Maybe the Beeb reads this forum? biggrin.gif

Red button stuff post race is v. good.
SirSaltire
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
No it's sexism when you hire someone to be the token female in your lineup regardless of whether they can do the job.
I agree but I think the BBC fall into the 'we better have a female in the team' trap.
zahistorics
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
No it's sexism when you hire someone to be the token female in your lineup regardless of whether they can do the job.


Agreed, but then you should have said: "Or how about hiring a someone who can do the job better? "
Ross Stonefeld
Because clearly the job is earmarked to be done by a woman.
Madras
I kind of wish The Cock was still commentating with Brundle.
Ali_G
5 live commentary was excellent.

Davidson in particular was dosing out buckets of insight in regards to the cars and their behaviour on circuit with the new KERS system and all.

Would advise anyone here to put on the radio commentary next time out. Croft is far superior to Legard too.
Orin
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
No it's sexism when you hire someone to be the token female in your lineup regardless of whether they can do the job.


She's just fine, were you hoping for some topless action?
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