Originally posted by dank
Probably been asked already, but no interviews with any of the retired drivers again this weekend? I know Goodman's manner left a lot to be desired, but it would be interesting once in a while if they threw down to Lee McKenzie or even Ted Kravitz to speak to some of the drivers.
I don't want to see or hear from Goodman ever again, but part of the reason why we don't hear from retired drivers anymore is the fact McKenzie has no relationship with them or their press people and so simply the drivers are not available to her at all.
You _always_ see Tanya Bauer from RTL/Premiere with her mug at the front of the pack these days, maybe it's worth replacing Lee with her :-)
MegaManson
Apr 22 2009, 10:46
ignore....just realised after posting meant drivers retired in the race
Traction
Apr 22 2009, 10:51
Originally posted by MinT
Gawd - you lot who wrote in to compain must have very sad little lives.
Says the guy who is writing about it on a message board!!
se7en_24
Apr 22 2009, 10:54
Originally posted by kar
You _always_ see Tanya Bauer from RTL/Premiere with her mug at the front of the pack these days, maybe it's worth replacing Lee with her :-)
She's from Premiere, they have that mug Kai Ebel on RTL.
D.M.N.
Apr 22 2009, 10:55
Originally posted by stevvy1986
given the race may have started later than normal, it was still very early in comparison to malaysia for example, so it was never going to be up massively
No, it was a mistake from Ross.
Originally posted by Traction
Says the guy who is writing about it on a message board!!
Well at least he's not spending time e-mailling letters of complaint to the Beeb.
Originally posted by se7en_24
She's from Premiere, they have that mug Kai Ebel on RTL.
Oh, yeah, we really don't want him. But Tanya is suitably crazy enough to work I think
Ross Stonefeld
Apr 22 2009, 11:05
Originally posted by D.M.N.
No, it was a mistake from Ross.
Hardly.
potmotr
Apr 22 2009, 11:25
Originally posted by kar
part of the reason why we don't hear from retired drivers anymore is the fact McKenzie has no relationship with them or their press people and so simply the drivers are not available to her at all.
Your first point maybe, but I can't agree with the second point.
Given its viewership, the BBC appears to carry a lot of weight when getting drivers.
Just witness Martin Brundle and David Coulthard rolling up to get a live grid interview with Fernando Alonso before the Chinese race at the expense of a female Spanish reporter.
That was nothing to do with relationships, everything to do with audience numbers.
Ross Stonefeld
Apr 22 2009, 11:29
UK TV audience, even on the BBC, is about half that of Spain...
potmotr
Apr 22 2009, 11:35
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
UK TV audience, even on the BBC, is about half that of Spain...
Really? I watched Channel 5's Formula One coverage in Spain and it looks totally budget.
What's your take on that particular incident?
Perhaps she was a radio reporter.
y2cragie
Apr 22 2009, 11:35
Originally posted by potmotr
Your first point maybe, but I can't agree with the second point.
Given its viewership, the BBC appears to carry a lot of weight when getting drivers.
Just witness Martin Brundle and David Coulthard rolling up to get a live grid interview with Fernando Alonso before the Chinese race at the expense of a female Spanish reporter.
That was nothing to do with relationships, everything to do with audience numbers.
To be fair Brundle has a good relationship with Fernando's press lady (her name escapes me right now)
Ross Stonefeld
Apr 22 2009, 11:41
Patricia, though she didn't look very pleased on that occasion.
potmotr
Apr 22 2009, 11:43
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Patricia, though she didn't look very pleased on that occasion.
What I'd love to know is how much flak Brundle gets for his gridwalks from other journalists after the event.
Often he says 'Oh, there's the man from Italian TV, he got very angry at me' etc etc.
Given Brundle interupts other people's interviews, and often jumps the queue, who can blame them?
Originally posted by potmotr
What I'd love to know is how much flak Brundle gets for his gridwalks from other journalists after the event.
Often he says 'Oh, there's the man from Italian TV, he got very angry at me' etc etc.
Given Brundle interupts other people's interviews, and often jumps the queue, who can blame them?
The UK audience may be quite small, but doesn't the BBC / ITV feeds go overseas to many, many more countries?
y2cragie
Apr 22 2009, 11:57
Originally posted by potmotr
What I'd love to know is how much flak Brundle gets for his gridwalks from other journalists after the event.
Often he says 'Oh, there's the man from Italian TV, he got very angry at me' etc etc.
Given Brundle interupts other people's interviews, and often jumps the queue, who can blame them?
I think he knows that a lot of them are doing pre recorded interviews to go out later. He tends to leave the drivers alone when its certain to be a live interview. And obviously like in Schumi's case doesn't bother with those who have the exclusive interview rights. So it's not like he goes completely over the top lol.
potmotr
Apr 22 2009, 12:00
Originally posted by kar
The UK audience may be quite small, but doesn't the BBC / ITV feeds go overseas to many, many more countries?
A good point kar.
ITV's coverage was broadcast in New Zealand, Australia (aside from when Channel Ten does the Australian Grand Prix itself) and countless other places.
So probably quite a massive audience.
However, I'm not sure all those countries take the gridwalk.
D.M.N.
Apr 22 2009, 12:52
Good news if you liked Gascoyne:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...422100934.shtml
Mike Gascoyne is eyeing a regular role as an expert pundit for Britain's television coverage of Formula One.
The former Renault, Toyota and Force India technical boss, ousted by the latter team at the end of 2008, substituted in Shanghai for BBC regular Eddie Jordan.
Former team owner and boss Jordan will be back in the role this weekend in Bahrain, but Gascoyne was a hit with both producers and viewers as he sparred with fellow pundit David Coulthard in China.
The Daily Mail quotes Gascoyne, formerly perhaps the highest paid engineer in Formula One, as revealing that feedback from his one-off appearance was ‘brilliant’.
The newspaper said Gascoyne, who is also keen to get back into the sport as an engineer, now wants to replace Jordan permanently.
"(He) is making no secret of his ambition to usurp EJ, who will be back for the Bahrain GP," the Daily Mail claimed.
Gascoyne worked for Jordan between 1998 and 2000, before departing for the Benetton/Renault team.
stevvy1986
Apr 22 2009, 12:57
that'd suit me just fine!
LuNaeika
Apr 22 2009, 13:05
BBC is crap
, DC annoys me. He´s a smart aleck. Maybe he should have adviced himself, then his career would have gone better
...
D.M.N.
Apr 22 2009, 13:08
Originally posted by LuNaeika
BBC is crap , DC annoys me. He´s a smart aleck. Maybe he should have adviced himself, then his career would have gone better ...
You're suggesting ITV is better then?
Originally posted by D.M.N.
Good news if you liked Gascoyne:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...422100934.shtml
Superb!!! Go on Mike!
Slowinfastout
Apr 22 2009, 13:16
Originally posted by Orin
Superb!!! Go on Mike!
Ditto.
'Gascoyne wants to oust Jordan from BBC'
Music to my ears!
MegaManson
Apr 22 2009, 13:22
Great news
Gascoyne was brilliant this weekend, hopefully Bahrain is the last appearance of the wigged one
LuNaeika
Apr 22 2009, 13:22
Originally posted by D.M.N.
You're suggesting ITV is better then?
a bit, yes ;)
It´s too difficult to be like BBC. They´re in a universum far away from us and move in a "circle" like the earth...
Ross Stonefeld
Apr 22 2009, 13:25
Hmm.
Wanting the job is a bit different to actually getting it...
Mika Mika
Apr 22 2009, 13:27
Originally posted by D.M.N.
Good news if you liked Gascoyne:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...422100934.shtml
Best news ever.... Hopefully they will sack EJ
stevvy1986
Apr 22 2009, 13:28
i think if they give MG more goes this season, they'll begin to realise who they actually need on the team, and it won't be EJ (even if they wait til next season to get MG instead of EJ permanently thats good enough for me)
Mika Mika
Apr 22 2009, 13:28
Originally posted by MinT
Wanting the job is a bit different to actually getting it...
True, but EJ is RUBBISH uninformitive, usually wrong, bitter, and ugly... I'd rather wiath F1 with 10 James Allens than have EJ involved....
Originally posted by potmotr
Your first point maybe, but I can't agree with the second point.
Given its viewership, the BBC appears to carry a lot of weight when getting drivers.
Just witness Martin Brundle and David Coulthard rolling up to get a live grid interview with Fernando Alonso before the Chinese race at the expense of a female Spanish reporter.
That was nothing to do with relationships, everything to do with audience numbers.
I think it has more to to with Brundle and Coulthard being ex drivers and very much part of the scene rather than "just" journos/presenters
MegaManson
Apr 22 2009, 13:30
If Wiggy is under contract and they can't get out of the contract there is no reason not to hire Gascoyne too
He could be BBC's answer to the brilliant Steve Matchett who is possibly the best analyst out there and Wiggy knows nothing about technical stuff so no reason why BBC can't hire Gascoyne TOO if Wiggy is on a watertight contract
stevvy1986
Apr 22 2009, 13:30
EJ tries to turn it into the EJ show, he decides he should be the interviewer when they have someone with them, he keeps blabbering on saying things like 'when i was growing up' and 'back in my day' etc, keeps interrupting, keeps saying ' and just to go back to david's point earlier'-hes just really annoying, and in the 2 races hes done so far, hasn't added anything to the show in my eyes
Dooly Tilly
Apr 22 2009, 16:49
I would be glad if they got rid of Wiggy but I think it's far more crucial that they replace Legard. At least Jordan is only ruining the before and after the race stuff, which, if necessery, we can just not tune in to. But Legard is spoiling the actual main event, which is simlply not acceptable.
wewantourdarbyback
Apr 22 2009, 17:14
Originally posted by LuNaeika
a bit, yes ;)
It´s too difficult to be like BBC. They´re in a universum far away from us and move in a "circle" like the earth...
what?
mikejaeger
Apr 22 2009, 17:19
Yeah, enough of EJ, all he did as an owner was to swan arround the mid order and pick up a couple of easy wins. A bit like Antony Davidson only he has no wins, so enough of him to before he even starts.
wewantourdarbyback
Apr 22 2009, 17:20
Originally posted by mikejaeger
A bit like Antony Davidson only he has no wins,
Random.
mikejaeger
Apr 22 2009, 17:57
Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
Random.
Don't you mean ditto? AD has been rumoured to be a possible commentator.
wewantourdarbyback
Apr 22 2009, 18:04
Originally posted by mikejaeger
Don't you mean ditto? AD has been rumoured to be a possible commentator. No I meant Random.
MegaManson
Apr 22 2009, 18:35
Originally posted by mikejaeger
Yeah, enough of EJ, all he did as an owner was to swan arround the mid order and pick up a couple of easy wins. A bit like Antony Davidson only he has no wins, so enough of him to before he even starts.
Brundle had no wins too yet the incredibly dull Damon Hill who stood in in Hungary had a WDC and multiple wins
Success on the track doesn't mean a good commentator
mikejaeger
Apr 22 2009, 18:36
Originally posted by MegaManson
Brundle had no wins too yet the incredibly dull Damon Hill who stood in in Hungary had a WDC and multiple wins
Success on the track doesn't mean a good commentator
Random
MegaManson
Apr 22 2009, 18:41
Originally posted by mikejaeger
Random
You were claiming that Davidson is not qualified to be a commentator because he had no race wins so I was reminding you of another member of the commentary team who also has 0 race wins
wewantourdarbyback
Apr 22 2009, 19:16
Originally posted by MegaManson
Brundle had no wins too yet the incredibly dull Damon Hill who stood in in Hungary had a WDC and multiple wins
I really enjoyed Damon's commentary at Hungary.
stevvy1986
Apr 22 2009, 19:30
not me-too many 'erm' moments and being unsure of what to say
rolf123
Apr 22 2009, 19:38
Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
I really enjoyed Damon's commentary at Hungary.
Me too, I thought it was excellent.
A lot of people here rave about Davidson but he is not that good. His technical talk is good but he becomes a bit too "matey" and immature. Damon was excellent.
I doubt he would commit to the schedule though. You never know...
rolf123
Apr 22 2009, 19:39
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
UK TV audience, even on the BBC, is about half that of Spain...
Spanish are all bandwagon jumpers. Until Alonso came along, more people were into bikes than F1.
Ross Stonefeld
Apr 22 2009, 19:43
And the Hamilton fans are what exactly?
Originally posted by rolf123
A lot of people here rave about Davidson but he is not that good. His technical talk is good but he becomes a bit too "matey" and immature.
Indeed. On the infamous "Get in there!" clip, Davidson is in there afterwards with a very forced "Yes! Yes! Yes!", you wouldn't catch Brundle trying to dig Allen out of that hole.
Ross Stonefeld
Apr 22 2009, 19:57
To be fair he was the Friday driver of the team at the time so he had every right to be excited.
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
To be fair he was the Friday driver of the team at the time so he had every right to be excited.
Unfortunately he's palpably not. Best just to keep quiet and trust the team not to think you're a complete shit.
Ross Stonefeld
Apr 22 2009, 20:10
What team? He was the test driver, reserve, and Friday driver at Hungary 2006
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