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mikejaeger
Just noticed something else on the BBC, they showing Bahrain on bbc1 and on bbc 2 at the same time motogp confused.gif then after formula 1 (for 1 hour) the politics show! are you (the beeb) thick or something down.gif
Can't imagine anyone in politics being interested in F1 (as it takes more than one braincell to understand it) so why not show that on the otherside mad.gif I'm so glad i'm not a licence payer smoking.gif
Ross Stonefeld
The Andrew Marr show is on a bit more often than F1...
Mika Mika
Sorry when is the Moto GP on the BBC???
D.M.N.
Originally posted by Mika Mika
Sorry when is the Moto GP on the BBC???


Saturday 25 April
Qualifying: 0500-0800, BBC Red Button/online (Freeview 301)

Sunday 26 April
125 and 250cc race: 0250-0500, BBC Red Button/online (Freeview 301)
Race: 0645-0800, BBC Two/online
Highlights: 1400-1515, BBC Two/online
Race re-run loop: 2300-0900, BBC Red Button

BTW:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/sch...ands/2009/04/26

The Bahrain GP on Sunday in BBC's schedules is *split* into two parts:

12:10 to 12:55 - Formula 1 2009, The Bahrain Grand Prix - Part 1
12:55 to 15:00 - Formula 1 2009, The Bahrain Grand Prix - Part 2

I think this has been done purely for iPlayer purposes, so it looks like the pre-race will be uploaded onto iPlayer, but it'll be split into two parts for thse that just want to watch the race. All TV guides and the Sky EPG are showing it as from 12:10 to 15:00 in one part, but if that changes and you are planning to record, you may want to manual record in case it cuts off at 12:55.
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by mikejaeger
Just noticed something else on the BBC, they showing Bahrain on bbc1 and on bbc 2 at the same time motogp confused.gif then after formula 1 (for 1 hour) the politics show! are you (the beeb) thick or something down.gif
Can't imagine anyone in politics being interested in F1 (as it takes more than one braincell to understand it) so why not show that on the otherside mad.gif I'm so glad i'm not a licence payer smoking.gif


Your just complaining for the sake of it then, if your not a license player why complain?

I'm reasonably interested in Politics, it's my country after all. Why shouldn't they show the politics show after F1?

Secondly I fail to see the point of the first part of your post. Their showing the F1 at the same time as the London Marathon and then the REPLAY of the MotoGP.
mikejaeger
People are more likely to be interested in motogp if their interested in f1 than if they were interested in politics, why show two prominent motorsport events at the same time on different channels? common sense confused.gif
D.M.N.
Originally posted by mikejaeger
People are more likely to be interested in motogp if their interested in f1 than if they were interested in politics, why show two prominent motorsport events at the same time on different channels? common sense confused.gif


The BBC only have two channels at that particular time to show a programme on. Red Button is taken because of the F1. I spoke to someone within the BBC a few months back and they said they try not to make sports clash, but sometimes its inevitable.

I agree that the MotoGP shouldn't be scheduled against the F1, but there is not much room for manuever... that's also why MotoGP live in on BBC Two, because BBC One is jam packed all day. Look:

BBC One
06:00 - Breakfast
07:10 - Match of the Day
08:30 - London Marathon
12:00 - BBC News
12:10 - F1: Bahrain GP
15:00 - The Politics Show
16:00 - EastEnders Omnibus

BBC Two
06:00 - CBBC
06:45 - MotoGP Live
08:00 - CBBC
10:00 - Something for the Weekend
11:30 - Great British Menu
12:00 - London Marathon
14:00 - MotoGP Re-Run
15:15 - World Championship Snooker
17:15 - Points of View

They cannot just dump the Politics Show, I think they have to have a certain amount of politics on Sundays, hence why it has to be on then. Also, they cannot put the repeat on later because of the live Snooker; so if they did move it, it'd be to after midnight (if anyone even thinks of suggesting putting MotoGP repeat in peaktime; then you are bonkers). We could debate the scheduling issue all day long, but the BBC is jampacked with Sport on Sunday and that's the only time where it'll go. This isn't like an F1 Qualifying/GMTV situation a few years ago where GMTV were utter twatheads and refused to give up airtime, this is similar a scheduling clash which cannot be avoided. These things happen.

Nowadays, we have things like iPlayer available, viewers can go on there and just watch the race, it doesn't necessarily matter when the repeat is because the vast majority of people have the internet available and thus will watch it off there if they cannot be bothered to watch it live.
ensign14
Originally posted by mikejaeger
People are more likely to be interested in motogp if their interested in f1 than if they were interested in politics, why show two prominent motorsport events at the same time on different channels?

Don't be daft. How can you be interested in F1 if you're NOT interested in politics?wink.gif
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by mikejaeger
People are more likely to be interested in motogp if their interested in f1 than if they were interested in politics, why show two prominent motorsport events at the same time on different channels? common sense confused.gif


The MotoGP is a repeat, which is also completely re run on the red button.
PNSD
When is FP2 going up online??

Taking a while!
Scotracer
Originally posted by PNSD
When is FP2 going up online??

Taking a while!


I know. I missed half of it today frown.gif

Edit: It's up clap.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/8017355.stm
PNSD
thanks smile.gif!
Imperial
What happened to Classic Bahrain this week?

I've been checking every night to watch an "old" race but haven't seen one being streamed. Are the BBC now deciding a circuit hasn't been in use long enough to qualify for classic status? In that case change the name.
D.M.N.
Originally posted by Imperial
What happened to Classic Bahrain this week?

I've been checking every night to watch an "old" race but haven't seen one being streamed. Are the BBC now deciding a circuit hasn't been in use long enough to qualify for classic status? In that case change the name.


- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2004
- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2005
- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2006
- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2007
- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2008

From Spain it should be like Australia; with the BBC able to have the facility to put on the old "Grand Prix" highlight programmes.
Imperial
Originally posted by D.M.N.


- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2004
- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2005
- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2006
- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2007
- "Classic" Bahrain Grand Prix 2008

From Spain it should be like Australia; with the BBC able to have the facility to put on the old "Grand Prix" highlight programmes.


Oops sorry I should have said that I was referring to the interactive feed. I don't think it's been used this week to show an older Bahrain race, I was looking forward to it too. It's just nicer to watch on a big TV than a small laptop screen.

Hopefully back on TV from Spain then!
D.M.N.
Originally posted by Imperial


Oops sorry I should have said that I was referring to the interactive feed. I don't think it's been used this week to show an older Bahrain race, I was looking forward to it too. It's just nicer to watch on a big TV than a small laptop screen.

Hopefully back on TV from Spain then!


The only reason it isn't on is because of Snooker taking up most of the space.
E.C.
Originally posted by D.M.N.
[B]NOTE FOR FREEVIEW VIEWERS: THE INTERACTIVE FORUM WILL NOT BE ON CHANNEL 301 OR 302 THIS SUNDAY.

[/B]


I noticed earlier today that the Forum is now listed for Freeview Channel 302 on Sunday.

(apologies if anyone has already mentioned this)
D.M.N.
Originally posted by E.C.


I noticed earlier today that the Forum is now listed for Freeview Channel 302 on Sunday.

(apologies if anyone has already mentioned this)


Can I ask what time your Freeview EPG says for it? One DS member says 14:00, while another says 14:45.
E.C.
Originally posted by D.M.N.


Can I ask what time your Freeview EPG says for it? One DS member says 14:00, while another says 14:45.


1445 - 1545. This is probably not quite correct as the forum will only start once the race broadcast has come to an end c.3pm. The forum is preceded on 302 by the "onboard" feed.

I also notice that snooker is listed for 301 during the race broadcast and for both 301 and 302 during qualifying, which means no Five Live option for quali or the race, although the EPG is often updated at the last minute - so who knows!
D.M.N.
Originally posted by E.C.


1445 - 1545. This is probably not quite correct as the forum will only start once the race broadcast has come to an end c.3pm. The forum is preceded on 302 by the "onboard" feed.

I also notice that snooker is listed for 301 during the race broadcast and for both 301 and 302 during qualifying, which means no Five Live option for quali or the race, although the EPG is often updated at the last minute - so who knows!


If that doesn't change, I suspect either:

a) the Forum will only be 45 minutes long from 1500 to 1545
b) Freeview viewers will not recieve the last 15 minutes of the Forum
c) Freeview EPG changes.
E.C.
Originally posted by D.M.N.


If that doesn't change, I suspect either:

a) the Forum will only be 45 minutes long from 1500 to 1545
b) Freeview viewers will not recieve the last 15 minutes of the Forum
c) Freeview EPG changes.


I can't see the last 15 minutes being chopped. They will either show all or none of the Forum on Freeview. As you probably know, the EPG times and listings are often approximate with updates/changes being made at the last minute.
D.M.N.
Follow On: jb26 says that the Forum has been cut by 15 minutes to accomodate Freeview, i.e. it will now run from 15:00 to 15:45.
quasi C
Davidson is brilliant, just listening to him now in FP3.
pRy
Originally posted by quasi C
Davidson is brilliant, just listening to him now in FP3.


Yes.. would be interesting to have him with Brundle on the main coverage.
Madras
As you can see, practice times mean very little. Completely different to yesterday.
Ross Stonefeld
Davidson is far superior in technical ability, but Brundle is by now the much more polished commentator.
Madras
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Davidson is far superior in technical ability, but Brundle is by now the much more polished commentator.


Yeah, I think it's because Davidson is a more recent driver, Brundle retired a decade ago now so his techinal knowledge wont be as sharp.
wingwalker
Originally posted by quasi C
Davidson is brilliant, just listening to him now in FP3.


I second, third etc. every good word that was said about Davidson. The amount of information he is able to extract from wheel or small changes in car behavrious seems inhuman. Props to him (but I still wish we'll see him on the grid in a F1 car). The entire radio commentary is great, there is a chemistry there and it sounds like they're enjoying what they're doing. But main BBC feed? That new James Allen guy is often clueless about what is going on, dull as hell and there is no chemistry between him and Brundle on top of that. Back in the ITV days I said you should appreciate their coverage more, and I stand by it: Say what you want about Allen (he was annoying me with his Hamilton-love fest, too) but at least he knew his shit. He was following GP's for how many years exactly? And when he was excited, or over excited, it sounded like he is genuinely excited, even if it made him sound ridiculous. That new guy speaks calmly and suddenly goes "Oh and Massa goes really slow, has he got a problem, what is going on" in oh-it's-so-important voice and it sounds artificial. Half a second later Brundle says 'it's an in-lap' and it looks daft to say the least.
MegaManson
Originally posted by wingwalker


I second, third etc. every good word that was said about Davidson. The amount of information he is able to extract from wheel or small changes in car behavrious seems inhuman. Props to him (but I still wish we'll see him on the grid in a F1 car). The entire radio commentary is great, there is a chemistry there and it sounds like they're enjoying what they're doing. But main BBC feed? That new James Allen guy is often clueless about what is going on, dull as hell and there is no chemistry between him and Brundle on top of that. Back in the ITV days I said you should appreciate their coverage more, and I stand by it: Say what you want about Allen (he was annoying me with his Hamilton-love fest, too) but at least he knew his shit. He was following GP's for how many years exactly? And when he was excited, or over excited, it sounded like he is genuinely excited, even if it made him sound ridiculous. That new guy speaks calmly and suddenly goes "Oh and Massa goes really slow, has he got a problem, what is going on" in oh-it's-so-important voice and it sounds artificial. Half a second later Brundle says 'it's an in-lap' and it looks daft to say the least.


Exactly

Legard has a sombre dull voice that would be perfect for coverage and commentary of say the state funeral of the Queen when she dies, he would be absolutely perfect for that, he would probably be great at reading the news too but he is not a top drawer motorsports commentator Allen is a league ahead of him in ability and passion
Orin
Originally posted by quasi C
Davidson is brilliant, just listening to him now in FP3.


Yes, lovely job from the whole team. up.gif

It's nice having two commentary teams.
wewantourdarbyback
Have to say the title sequence is growing on me.... didn't expect that.
RodrigoL
F1 Cribs with Buemi....loved it clap.gif tongue.gif
dank
Originally posted by RodrigoL
F1 Cribs with Buemi....loved it clap.gif tongue.gif


Shades of ITV with that feature!
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by dank


Shades of ITV with that feature!
Hardly really focused on his home though.
wingwalker
Uhm... I just found something which might interest a few people: BCC player is all restricted yadda yadda but it looks like Radio5 is perfectly accesible from anywhere in the word! I know, probably everyone but me knew about it, but in case other folks are as bright as me...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/
It works perfectly fine (I'm in Poland)! (Well, it worked fter I installed the pathetic excuse of a software which is RealPlayer and disabled all the 'run at start-up', 'run in tray' etc options which were on by default. Oh, how I missed using this garbage... not) and my understanding is qualy race commentary will be there, right? So I will watch pictures from TV and commentary from the online radio with a switch to justin.tv if I feel like listening to Brundle. Sounds good! Fingers crossed!
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by wingwalker
Uhm... I just found something which might interest a few people: BCC player is all restricted yadda yadda but it looks like Radio5 is perfectly accesible from anywhere in the word! I know, probably everyone but me knew about it, but in case other folks are as bright as me...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/
It works perfectly fine (I'm in Poland)! (Well, it worked fter I installed the pathetic excuse of a software which is RealPlayer and disabled all the 'run at start-up', 'run in tray' etc options which were on by default. Oh, how I missed using this garbage... not) and my understanding is qualy race commentary will be there, right? So I will watch pictures from TV and commentary from the online radio with a switch to justin.tv if I feel like listening to Brundle. Sounds good! Fingers crossed!
It'll stop come Quay time sir. They don't have the rights to events when it comes to broadcasting them outside the UK, or sometimes within the UK as well. Come the start of the action the feed should stop.
wingwalker
Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
It'll stop come Quay time sir. They don't have the rights to events when it comes to broadcasting them outside the UK, or sometimes within the UK as well. Come the start of the action the feed should stop.



boo!
wewantourdarbyback
Originally posted by wingwalker



boo!
I'll repeat one sentence, they do not have the rights to broadcast it outside of the UK.
wingwalker
Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
I'll repeat one sentence, they do not have the rights to broadcast it outside of the UK.


boo!
se7en_24
ARGHHH WHATS HAPPENED!! I CAN'T GET FIVE LIVE COMMENTARY FOR THE LAST SESSION!!

MY EARS!!!
lokiman
Anybody else have a problem getting the 5 Live commentary on BB1 during Q3?

EDIT: ah, good, not just me, then.
Jackman
Oh yeah, Legard is that crap.
Orin
Great strides by Legard, he's allowing lots more room for Brundle who spoke for longer periods than I can remember for years. I really like the pairing of Brundle and Legard and they seem to be warming to each other too. up.gif

EJ wasn't annoying today, not even when allowed the 1:1 with the Bahraini prince. Amazing. eek.gif
senna da silva
Jonathan Legard is a cock!
djellison
Originally posted by Orin
Great strides by Legard,


Agree - he's getting there. Even from Day 1 I found him infinitely less obnoxious and hollow than Allen. He's settling in to the TV role, and it's working as a pairing.
D.M.N.
Legard was definitely better today than at the previous three races. I actually liked EJ as well, didn't like as if "go off on one" when he talked.
mikejaeger
I thought the coverage today was excellent, you always got the feeling at ITV that 'the boys' (Allen and kravitz) only got the job because their mum still does their hair in the morning.
Kop Alonso
Loed the bit on Bernies car collection ....I love old Brabhams....

tongue.gif
D.M.N.
It seems like some viewers were unhappy their BBC Breakfast show was ripped up into pieces last Saturday by F1 Qualifying, check this out, 10:45 in.wink.gif
mikejaeger
Doesn't kate silverstone do breakfast confused.gif
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