He's probably been reading this thread

Bradley Lord was mentioning how vicious internet forums could be...

Quote:

"Internet message boards are dangerous places for a journalist's fragile ego - just ask any recent or current F1 commentators"....

Hmmm, surely he's not suggesting Allen and Legard?

Baxter surely?...and unfortunately "was".

Commentary by Ian Philips during the FP's is absolutely priceless. He has insight info on about everything and he is not trying to make himself look like a know-it-all-pro (like mr. Jordan), it's all very natural. He is not a pro commentator so there is quite a lot of "erms" and what nots but who cares? I enjoy FP's about 10 times as much as I did thanks to radio5 commentary team (I praised Ant before, it still stands).

As for Legard, I still can't say anything positive about him. He is seemingly clueless and it shows, like 'Barrichello needed a minute to complete S1'. No, he simply went to the pits for fuel, as anyone who ever watched an full F1 weekend with live timing would tell him.

Too be fair Brundle backed him up on the Barrichelo 1 min for sector 1 thing - the timing in their box presumably had a glitch and did not show him in the pits.

I find now that there's commentary that Free Practice actually means something.

Yes, it means a few hours withought Legard.

No, I mean in terms of action. Before it seemed meaningless, just having cars go round and round without any commentary to add "skin" to it, whereas now we have commentary with the action.

Stop trying to turn everything "anti-Legard".

I think Legard is now starting to "gel" with Brundle. Today's commentary seemed to be more fluid.

It's not really commentary, its more a really long preview to the weekend, with some nice pictures Croft, Ant and lenny are pretty damn good in the role.

To be honest as I've said before i'd rather EJ be shown the door before JL. Both are crap on very different levels. I can however live with JL as he has backup from MB. EJ turns it into his show and I personally like it when DC quite clearly gets the better of him and is rightly quite smug about it.

I've got no complaints about Legard at all.

I'm not keen on the Maurice Hamilton / Ian Phillips pairing during FP2 - I think they're interesting and I enjoy their podcast, but the problem is they treat the practice session as an extension of the podcast and tell you very little about what's going on on-track.

Watching practice this morning and comparing to Qualifying I was struck by how much more informed I felt listening to Anthony Davidson whi has a great chatty style and insight. DC's rather wooden performance and furtive glances at his notes really pale in comparison.

Hopefully they'll take stock over the piece and replace EJ with Gascoyne and promote Davidson from the radio

I agree with you Keith on the Hamilton/Phillips pairing. I couldn't watch the session yesterday so left it online in the background however I may aswell not have bothered as they give little to no information relative on track.
Josefk I think you have it spot on and hope they can/could replace EJ with MG at the end of the season (but im sure he has some lucrative contract that will stop it) and I find Davidsons commentary great too.

God, DC dissing EJ was hilarious today. Maybe he can bully him out of the analysis crew?

I thought the qualifying coverage was superb. Best I've seen for years. We are spoiled.

I thought that EJ hit the nail on the head today when he said, that this looks like being a very open season, because the big teams can't by there way out of trouble anymore.

I dont, I think it was a very stupid comment. The diffuser thing has clouded his judgement, it's taking the teams a long time to fit DDDs, Ferrari is getting there by spending lots of cash and they have just qualified 4th - their best of the season.

Ferrari are buying their way out of trouble and will soon be out of trouble. EJ is a clueless turkey head.

Heh for a second here I thought I'd missed out today. I saw 'EJ' and 'hit on the head' in the same sentence and suddenly thought someone had done what I'd long wanted to do.

Sadly I was wrong.

Fluid like liquid shit.

Good old Auntie BEEB, I bet they don't feel your pain.

I'd say the opposite. Legard really irritates me to no end. I hate his stupid horse-racing commentary style and his tiresome repetitions of phrases like "Is this going to be good enough? He knows the time to beat, a 1:21.2... and the time is...." I'd almost say that I want the Unspeakable One back, but I loathed him for his Hamilton/Button fanboyism.

On the other hand, I find Ian Phillips and Maurice Hamilton to be informative and entertaining, especially given that practice is not that exciting. I agree that they don't comment on the on-track action much, but it's nice to hear their opinions on things like the budget cap and such.

Maurice Hamilton / Ian Phillips were AWFUL! It hurt my ears! I especially liked:

Comm #1: We've got an email question here for Mr Someone from Somewhere. He asks, how long is Lewis Hamilton's suspended race ban for?
Comm #2: I don't know...

I like Legard. He is a thousand times better to listen to than James Allen. I could definetely live without Eddie "when I were a team boss...." Jordan.

"Have fun trying to find Kimi Raikkonen. Hahaha."
Nobody laughed at that.
I can only imagine Martin's face.

I think Jonathon could be quite good, just so long as he stops using cliches like "winding himself up," "shot in the arm" (the worst possible phrase I can think of), and so on.

"That'll be a real shot in the arm for him"

I thought todays' coverage was excellent. I really like the pit walk punditry and hosting. I like how you can hear ratchets, and how they have to speak over engines. It feels like you're there stuck in with it all, and it's also convenient as they can pick off random team bosses and team members. MUCH better than Rider and Blundell tucked out the way. I liked the little skits too. The one with Martin showing the clutch controls on the back of the wheel was informative. I didn't know there were two independent paddles, at least on the Renault anyway.

I loik it

Although I really enjoy the 5Live commentary, I don't think Legard is that bad. It did make me laugh however when I realised how accurate your quotes were, I initially thought you were exaggerating.

BTW you forgot to add "Here they come, thick and fast"

Obi

First laugh-out-loud moment I've had on this forum for a few years !!!

Add to that some bollocks along the lines of "Well Kimi is probably off to get himself an ice-cream. That's what he does isn't it, when he is out?"

Yes, on the basis of one incident in Malaysia that indeed apparently is "what he does".

Here we go now, *driver x* is on a REAL charge. Arghhhhh.


There was no glitch it does it everytime in Q3 when they pit. I don't know why it does it this way, but it's done it like this for a very long time! It does it for every driver. How could they not know this? And why out of the blue did they make such a big deal about it, Legard especially in the 5th race?

They didn't just say it for Rubens, they thought the others had done super slow out laps as well.

Arghhh just like what happened with James Allen, Martin Brundle is starting to catch some of his partners contagious habits. It's like a disease, Brundle needs to strengthen his immune system and rebel against it.

EJ is such a wanker. His comment about Kimi and the icecreams was funny though. It's such a silly childish cheap shot to throw in there when you are on a rant.

Kimi's wins: 17
Jordan Grand Prix: 4



I'm getting tired of the 'ice cream' bullshit. Yea, he should totally have sat in his car in the rain instead of going to the pits because he was having KERS issues that he would have retired with anyway.

you might be tired of it but it's not bullshit. The fact that it's become an ongoing joke is that it was seen on worldwide TV and that sort of thing sticks in people's minds

You are missing the point clubman - when Kimi loses out in qualifying because he "wasnt keen on going out again" - raising the icecream thing is very relevant as it gives further relevance to the theory that it is all too much like hard work for him now.

Another "hungry" driver might have stayed with his car, suited up, urging the team to get it sorted in the event the race restarted, or at least not given the impression that getting their shorts on, having a coke and an icecream was better than giving your engineers a grilling over the problems with the car....

Kimi said in post qualifying interviews that he *ALSO* wasnt keen on going out - it wasnt solely his decision.

Kimi had gotten out of the car and changed *AFTER* Ferrari decided to retire the car.. something they would have done irrespective of the race being restarted.

All this constant battering of Kimi's resolution and focus is getting beyond tired. The only people who can accurately assess his committment are those that work directly with him, and even then, it will still only be an impression. The *ONLY* person who truly knows how committed Kimi is to racing, is .... KIMI..

All this pointless speculation and debate is getting very tired and long in the tooth...

Very true, but surely we expect more from 'experts' than just repeating what are ultimately BB cliches? I mean, imagine if EJ started talking about Alonso's "6 tenths"

They did mention Mansell's 1 second at Silverstone.

Just watching BBC news, and the sports presenter has claimed that despite all the other teams bringing upgrades, the Brawns are still leading, and everyone else is "nowhere to be seen".. wow.. how sensationalist can you get.. 0.1sec is nowhere?? I recall that 0.1sec would translate to less than a few meters behind after a single lap.. One must be incredibly short sighted to not see a car that close behind..

LOL - gotta love the media sometimes.. anything to put a spin on an "old" story...

I see Martin Brundle has ditched his Alpinestars-branded BBC polo shirt..

Giancarlo: "I didn't understand the question."
Martin: "No, I didn't understand the question either, but it was nice to talk to you..."

That was Balbir Singh the physio/umbrella holder

Lee McKenzie has finally discovered how to do interviews with drivers who have retired from the race.

Probably helped by a high level of attrition so plenty of targets.

Perhaps she's been on the phone to Louise Goodwin.

Legard has been good today IMO.

I quite like how he gently takes the piss out of Brundle.

EDIT: Apart from the fact he's just completely mishandled the excitement of Alonso taking Massa on the last lap.

Eddie Jordan is refreshing because he's not a yes man and doesn't suck up to people like awful ITV crew. The fact he talks bullshit and is a massive Schumacher lover doesn't matter because DC makes him look like an idiot. Very funny unlike the nauseating 'yes man' ITV rubbish.

I'm pretty annoyed at DC's comments about Lewis Hamilton. Apparently having a dog of a car is just "part of the rollercoaster of motor racing". So Lewis should just accept it then? Well that just sums up to me the difference between DC and Lewis...Lewis wants to win, while DC is just a loser. It really used to annoy me how calm and relaxed DC always seemed to be after yet another poor performance/DNF. Maybe that's why I could never really warm to him despite his being a Scot. Plus I can never imagine Lewis doing an Australia 1998.

DC...I want to see my favourite driver winning, not losing.

Well done to BBC today for finally using Lee McKenzie to interview drivers.

Seriously, WELL DONE AT LAST!

Legard still isn't working on television.

So Hill is a loser as well? Villeneuve? Kimi?

Not at all. They are all deserving World Champions. What did DC ever win?

I can see where DC's coming from though. Much as I love Lewis Hamilton, some of his comments yesterday, and now in his post-race interview just now, are coming rather close to publically criticising his team. I rarely feel that's a good place for an F1 driver to go to.

Eddie Jordan doesn't suck up to people you say? Which BBC broadcast are you watching? EJ is cringeworthy when interviewing guests, "suckup suckup suckup, reference to Jordan, suckup, question?"

Who was brundle's driver of the day?

I don't think being frank about where the car is at should be read as criticising the team.

Lewis should be able to speak his mind and was doing that.

The current McLaren has the pace of a Fiat Panda.

webber i think