It's weird isn't it, because I find him really irritating.

All those... breathless.. pauses.

I quite liked Steve Ryder.

And therein lies the trouble with broadcasting, you can't please everyone.

Nige: "Well, you know, the cars were much harder to drive in my day and the caliber of the drivers was much higher..."

BBC, cannot be viewed outside of UK.

Long interview and feature on Kubica?

Not sure I agree

I'm sure they'd have trailed it if that was the case.

Nice to see Sarcasm is lost on you completely today

Jake seems too young. It's weird having a young guy controling a conversation with old feckers like EJ, MB and DC.

He's only about 6 years younger than DC or something like that.

He's 32 isn't he? Hardly a baby. I find him kind of cheesy and goofy. But as I said above, different strokes for different folks.

Another thought, I reckon they need to bring Jonathan Legard into the preshow more.

In the past hour we've seen interviews with Murray Walker and Martin Brundle in the pits.

I think they need to let Legard express his personality a bit more and the viewer to become more familiar with him.

yea I really dont like watching Jordan....always says some annoying stuff.

Anthony Davidson is cool though, he does have a future covering F1 once his career as a driver is done.

Jake just has a boyish face. He is very good at this role.

He is completely comfortable, even when Steve Cram and Redgrave didn't notice him, he passed it off with natural flair.

Steve Ryder was an old guard gimp who added nothing whatsoever. I always though Jim Rosenthal was better than Ryder. I have never understood why the BBC loved Ryder for years and why ITV signed him.

He does come across as the geek in the box in that regard. He might not be horrendously boring in a more casual situation.

Jordan's interview with the Prince was an utter waste of time, it served simply to act as yet another free advert for the Principality.

He "alluded" to only one interesting topic, that of the Grimaldi's relationship with Max Mosely and he still chickened out of asking the question in the way it should have been. It's only a year ago the family had made it clear Mosely wasn't welcome in Monaco and now Jordan just asks if the relationship is fine. He didn't expand at all and should have done. It really is true that people have short memories in F1 and not just for the drivers and races. The teams are yet again paying the price for not insisting Mosely give up the Presidency a year ago, as if he had they wouldn't be in the current budget cap and rules mess.

If it really comes to a series-split it is going to affect Monaco and the whole subject was completely glossed over.

I then must assume either:

A) You're mocking someone who's moaning that it's too nationalistic, and it is sarcasm

B) It isn't sarcasm, you feel stupid, and are playing the sarcasm card hoping I'm American and don't understand what it is

You're being extremely unfair to Ryder. Both are absolute professionals and proved that on many occasions, in Ryders case for many many years. If Ryder or Rosenthal were fronting F1 in 2009 you can rest assured that Eddie Jordan would not be allowed to rattle on ceaselessly or interrupt their flow.

That they are part of an old guard is not disputed, and to be honest I'd rather have a few younger people represented all over TV, but they can't halt the aging process.

The problem with Rosenthal was he didnt seem to know much about F1 and he had a couple of total gimps supporting him in Simon Taylor and Tony Jardine.

To me that reads as one of the most professional sports anchors ever seen on TV coupled with two of the most knowledgeable men in the sport.

You could contrast that with todays coverage anchored by someone who could be on MTV couple with the most boring man ever to sit in an F1 car and one of the biggest pricks ever to own an F1 team...

Yeah I'm not a fan, but that aspect of the show is definitely not aimed at someone like me. I take a much different view to watching a motor race so care sweet f*** all about the pre and post bit.

You could read it that way but did you actually watch their performances? They were soooooooo dull it wasnt funny.

Believe me, it was A, hence the at the end of it, next time I'll fill it with a whole row of Emotes rather than the one, for those of you who need it to be blindingly obvious.

Each to his own of course!

Jonathan Legard is getting more comfortable each racing meeting IMO.

I'm quite enjoying his work today.

I think they're all having a good time this weekend

Bizarre. Lee McKenzie just asked Lewis the exact same question twice!

I for one was bitterly disappointed by that.

My disappointment was also bitter. Bitterly bitter, and don't even get me started on the disappointment.

I think you're just bitter

really? that's disappointing

Croft and Davidson good today. Football annoying though - had to switch to TV comms a few times and prey Martin was talking. Luckily he was most of the time.

Switching between TV and radio, they say twice as much on radio. Legard is BORING.

More disappointed.

*waits for the BBC to be slated for not being able to show all of the PC*

Like I care. They showed the important part and ITV used to do it all the bloody time. If only they hadn't delayed it so we could hear EJ blither on about crap again, we might have got to hear from Kimi.

Rosenthal openly admitted he liked football more than F1. Humphrey clearly has a very good knowledge of Formula 1 as demostrated so far this season, and has blended into the role well. OK, he's made a few minor mistakes but every presenter does that.



Jake said the full version should be put on the website, so it shouldn't be slated.

I think the pre-race is good - there is always going to be one feature that isn't liked as much as the rest; instead of watching and slating it, it should be used for fans as a "toilet break" before the session.

Legard and Brundle did well - my only gripe was towards the end of Q2 when Legard kept saying "Is Button heading out possibly" - it was evident that none of the bottom five were going to pose a realistic challenge.

Yeah it's 2009, I have no problems with watching the press conference on BBC.co.uk

Blame Hamiltons red flag for missing it

Not only did McKenzie ask Hamilton the same question twice, she asked the same question to Trulli moments before!

Possibly (just a guess, could be totally wrong) Jake got told they were cutting to the PC, and then at the last moment was told there was a minor technical glitch and to keep talking for another 30secs or so. As i said, just a guess, could be right, could be wrong. At least he said the whole PC would be on the website. Not like ITV would even mention it, and to be fair, without the red flag, they'd have been able to show more of the PC (though it could be argued that as it was only golf that was the next programme, that they could have over-run for 5-10mins extra)

Who the hell does Hamilton think he is, messing about with TV scheduling!

Come on BBC... you could've shown Raikkonen and Barrichello in the press conference by actually cutting the amount of air time DC and EJ get, who really don't add anything to the coverage at all..

ITV did it alot, but the BBC has no excuse for this.

It's perfectly available for you to watch if you wish.

Not really - depends whether they were ready for the Press Conference and when it actually began airing on the World Feed.

I could have answered this if all manner of circumstances didn't prevent me from doing so.

It's all very well saying that it can be watched on the BBC website, but my proxy's down and it won't let me access it from the USA. I'll either have to find it elsewhere - unlikely - or just read the transcript when the FIA publish it.

This comment made me laugh: https://twitter.com/Jamesallenonf1

Jamesallenonf1 #f1 - should be a good race join me tomorrow for live feed at 2pm European time

Live feed?

Better tell Nige and Hack that they have competition

Do we have a solid set of nicknames for the BBC team yet?

I'm thinking the following, a little stuck on the others for now though:

Jonathan "Not good enough" Legard (heard 9 times during Q3)
Eddie "Alluded To" Jordan (heard at least once every coverage session he features in)

Jonathan "Round the Bend" Legard
Jonathan "Over the Hill" Legard

or simply

Legard the **** (insert 4 letter word of your choosing)

Right, so your complaining about a feed that you were watching illegally?

I think Legard s problem ( well one of em anyway) is he seems to commentate on the timing screen rather than what the tv screen is showing.

During todays programme he shouted out "heres Button, heres Vettel" for no apparent reason while the pictures was on a long shot of the harbour - presumably he was reacting to the screen he was watching - but it just made him seem stupid.

Quite often he just seems lost for words and so says the first of his 3 or 4 stock phrases that pops into his head - not the ideal qualification for a race commentator.

"Heres Button", "Buttons on a charge", "theres Massa hes on a charge as well, round the corner he goes etc etc.

First and last season I think.

He's not bothering me as much as he was before.

Jesus, no! Pop round to the pub or something! Go do some housework! ANYTHING BUT THAT! AAAAAARGGGGGH

I feel your pain man, the worst part of it is, if your marriage is anything like mine was, my wife had even less interest in hearing my blather than I did in hearing hers!

/threadjack