Jose Mourinho is Special
Nov 1 2009, 15:40
McLaren should sign Kobayashi - cheap, fast, young, establish a Japanese fanbase, more Japanese sponsors, more $$$
Why waste over 15million+ on a lazy 30 year old Finn?
Villeneauve was right, Raikkonen was overrated, rubbish to say the least... his past his prime now

You are an obvious troll but it´s funny people keep jumping on some bandwagon based on one race.
raiseyourfistfor
Nov 1 2009, 15:42
No thanks. I'd take my cheap Heidfeld / Sutil over Koba any time.
I wrote this in the mp4-24 thread.
I genuinely believe they could mold him into a future star.
that would be a good idea indeed. Kimi is obviously more reliable atm, but Koba shows great potential.
Turbo Lag
Nov 1 2009, 15:44
Fallout
Nov 1 2009, 15:44
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Nov 1 2009, 16:40)

McLaren should sign Kobayashi - cheap, fast, young, establish a Japanese fanbase, more Japanese sponsors, more $$$
Why waste over 15million+ on a lazy 30 year old Finn?
Villeneauve was right, Raikkonen was overrated, rubbish to say the least... his past his prime now
You're not exactly a troll in disguise, are ya?
MegaManson
Nov 1 2009, 15:44
Odds on Kobayashi going to McLaren 10,000,000-1
Chances of this thread being still open in an hour 10,000,000-1
Captain Tightpants
Nov 1 2009, 15:45
QUOTE (teejay @ Nov 2 2009, 02:43)

I wrote this in the mp4-24 thread.
I genuinely believe they could mold him into a future star.
If Kimi doesn't work out, I wouldn't be surprised if Buemi appears on their shopping list - he's young and quick, not old and slow like Heidfeld. And if Mercedes are backing out, there's no obligation for a German driver.
Yeah, that's exactly what he needs, a Japanese driver in an all English team where nobody would give a damn s**t about him, and he'd only be there to act as Liar's lapdog. Another promising driver destroyed by McLaren.
mursuka80
Nov 1 2009, 15:47
Welcome to the ignore list
yvonne.kk
Nov 1 2009, 15:47
another KR-bash thread?
Its a bit early to be giving him top seats, but I think he is impressive.
I don't understand the logic of the OPs post - why would McLaren want japanese money ?
QUOTE (Pegaso @ Nov 1 2009, 23:46)

Yeah, that's exactly what he needs, a Japanese driver in an all English team where nobody would give a damn s**t about him, and he'd only be there to act as Liar's lapdog. Another promising driver destroyed by McLaren.
As opposed to a mediocre Toyota which promises so much every year then fails to deliver ?
giacomo
Nov 1 2009, 15:54
QUOTE (Crafty @ Nov 1 2009, 16:48)

Its a bit early to be giving him top seats, but I think he is impressive.
Its never too early for having a top seat. Compare Hamilton.
But McLaren signing a Japanese driver? Won't happen.
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Nov 1 2009, 21:10)

McLaren should sign Kobayashi - cheap, fast, young, establish a Japanese fanbase, more Japanese sponsors, more $$$
Why waste over 15million+ on a lazy 30 year old Finn?
Villeneauve was right, Raikkonen was overrated, rubbish to say the least... his past his prime now

I hope these top teams like Ferrari, Mclaren take more interest in rookie drivers from GP2. As long as you have one proven winner (Lewis in Mclaren's case), give the second seat to a GP2 graduate who will happily drive for free. Sure, occasionally you'll get a loser like Nelson Piquet who fails in F1, but you can always sign a contract which allows termination at team's discretion.
Before this race I was wondering if Koba will get hired by some established F1 team. Mclaren should seriously consider him, he won't be any worse than Heikki.
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Nov 1 2009, 19:40)

McLaren should sign Kobayashi - cheap, fast, young, establish a Japanese fanbase, more Japanese sponsors, more $$$
Why waste over 15million+ on a lazy 30 year old Finn?
Villeneauve was right, Raikkonen was overrated, rubbish to say the least... his past his prime now
My dear troll Jose, you made again a wrong conclusion. Kimi should go to Toyota. Toyota is obviously very fast and Kimi has a huge fanbase in Japan.
No.
If he's the real deal,I wouldn't want to see him struggle to come to terms with the pressures of being at a top team too soon: that can destroy careers. He'd also be up against Hamilton,don't forget.
Oh,and by the way: hadn't noticed that anti-KR line. In one fell swoop you've created the Kobayashi-bashclub,congrats.
maccaFTW
Nov 1 2009, 16:02
No. Just... no.
Koba has had two good races. But two good races does not a great driver make.
Raikkonen is the man for the job. Villeneuve said that he was overrated as a complete package because he doesn't apply himself, not because of his actual talent.
They will let go KOVA for KOBA.
Not very different, isn't it?
teewoods
Nov 1 2009, 16:03
QUOTE (BRK @ Nov 1 2009, 16:01)

No.
If he's the real deal,I wouldn't want to see him struggle to come to terms with the pressures of being at a top team too soon: that can destroy careers. He'd also be up against Hamilton,don't forget.
Thats what people said when Lewis was going to join Alonso.
DePortago
Nov 1 2009, 16:04
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Nov 1 2009, 16:40)

McLaren should sign Kobayashi - cheap, fast, young, establish a Japanese fanbase, more Japanese sponsors, more $$$
Why waste over 15million+ on a lazy 30 year old Finn?
Villeneauve was right, Raikkonen was overrated, rubbish to say the least... his past his prime now
Definitely, you have lost your mind.
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Nov 1 2009, 13:45)

If Kimi doesn't work out, I wouldn't be surprised if Buemi appears on their shopping list - he's young and quick, not old and slow like Heidfeld. And if Mercedes are backing out, there's no obligation for a German driver.
fail
De Jokke
Nov 1 2009, 16:05
Toyota would be foolish not to sign him, he beated trulli in only his second race and with lots less experience with the toyota car.
And since glock is heading to renault, he should get the seat.
QUOTE (teewoods @ Nov 1 2009, 22:03)

Thats what people said when Lewis was going to join Alonso.
But we don't know is Kamui is good enough yet. Besides,Hamilton is a better driver now than Alonso was in 2007.
maccaFTW
Nov 1 2009, 16:07
QUOTE (De Jokke @ Nov 1 2009, 11:05)

Toyota would be foolish not to sign him, he beated trulli in only his second race and with lots less experience with the toyota car.
And since glock is heading to renault, he should get the seat.
Yeah, Kobayashi sealed his drive with Toyota for next year with this race. He did a fantastic job.
teewoods
Nov 1 2009, 16:11
QUOTE (giacomo @ Nov 1 2009, 15:54)

Its never too early for having a top seat. Compare Hamilton.
But McLaren signing a Japanese driver? Won't happen.
Oh yes I forgot they are racist
ex Rhodie racer 2
Nov 1 2009, 16:14
QUOTE (Ural @ Nov 1 2009, 17:00)

My dear troll Jose, you made again a wrong conclusion. Kimi should go to Toyota. Toyota is obviously very fast and Kimi has a huge fanbase in Japan.
I´ll give that a 10/4. I don´t know how he could have turned them down. Really, really poor advice someone is giving him.
AndreasF1
Nov 1 2009, 16:15
QUOTE (De Jokke @ Nov 1 2009, 21:35)

Toyota would be foolish not to sign him
But if Mclaren also offered him a racing seat, which should he choose? I'd say Mclaren.
hunnylander
Nov 1 2009, 16:20
It would be interesting.
But even if McLaren would want him, Toyota has option to sign him. Toyota can't be so stupid not to sign him.
Simon Says
Nov 1 2009, 16:30
It's too uncertain. Kobayashi is very good, but I'm not sure he's better than Kimi. Have to wait for next season to see how good he really is
Simon Says
Nov 1 2009, 16:32
QUOTE (De Jokke @ Nov 1 2009, 17:05)

Toyota would be foolish not to sign him, he beated trulli in only his second race and with lots less experience with the toyota car.
And since glock is heading to renault, he should get the seat.
Kobiyashi needs to work on his qualifing though. Despite starting so low on the grid he still beat Trulli. Says alot about how good of a racer he is. Now if he can only qualify good. But that will come with more F1 experience.
giacomo
Nov 1 2009, 16:39
QUOTE (teewoods @ Nov 1 2009, 17:11)

Oh yes I forgot they are racist

Strange are your trains of thought, my friend.
teewoods
Nov 1 2009, 16:45
QUOTE (giacomo @ Nov 1 2009, 16:39)

Strange are your trains of thought, my friend.
Even more strange is your logic
Jose Mourinho is Special
Nov 1 2009, 18:03
You do remember Benneton giving Schumacher a drive after a few races at Jordan
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Nov 1 2009, 16:40)

McLaren should sign Kobayashi - cheap, fast, young, establish a Japanese fanbase, more Japanese sponsors, more $$$
Why waste over 15million+ on a lazy 30 year old Finn?
Villeneauve was right, Raikkonen was overrated, rubbish to say the least... his past his prime now
Well, why don't you substitute Alonso for Raikkonen and create a thread "Kobayashi to Ferrari"?
QUOTE (primer @ Nov 1 2009, 16:56)


I hope these top teams like Ferrari, Mclaren take more interest in rookie drivers from GP2. As long as you have one proven winner (Lewis in Mclaren's case), give the second seat to a GP2 graduate who will happily drive for free. Sure, occasionally you'll get a loser like Nelson Piquet who fails in F1, but you can always sign a contract which allows termination at team's discretion.
Before this race I was wondering if Koba will get hired by some established F1 team. Mclaren should seriously consider him, he won't be any worse than Heikki.
And throw away any chance at the WCC in the process...
MikeTekRacing
Nov 1 2009, 19:14
QUOTE (Simon Says @ Nov 1 2009, 18:32)

Kobiyashi needs to work on his qualifing though. Despite starting so low on the grid he still beat Trulli. Says alot about how good of a racer he is. Now if he can only qualify good. But that will come with more F1 experience.

I think it says more about trulli being a qualifier not a racer...
fastlegs
Nov 1 2009, 20:00
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Nov 1 2009, 08:40)

McLaren should sign Kobayashi - cheap, fast, young, establish a Japanese fanbase, more Japanese sponsors, more $$$
Why waste over 15million+ on a lazy 30 year old Finn?
Villeneauve was right, Raikkonen was overrated, rubbish to say the least... his past his prime now
I agree with the "Raikkonen was overrated" part of your post.
As for the Kobayashi part, I can't get over all the teenager like sensationalism over a guy who has driven in two GP's with limited success.
Has he displayed some promise? Yes. But to go on that he should get the McLaren drive or he's a future world champion (as in another thread) based on 2 races is ridiculous.
This guy could turn out to be another Sato.
Muz Bee
Nov 2 2009, 20:29
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Nov 1 2009, 16:40)

Villeneauve was right, Raikkonen was overrated, rubbish to say the least... his past his prime now
The poster of this thread has qualified for the finals of "people who just don't get F1". Fail, fail, fail, try British football for a sport where you will be in the company of similar bash mentality knuckle draggers.
ex Rhodie racer 2
Nov 2 2009, 22:59
QUOTE (Muz Bee @ Nov 2 2009, 21:29)

The poster of this thread has qualified for the finals of "people who just don't get F1". Fail, fail, fail, try British football for a sport where you will be in the company of similar bash mentality knuckle draggers.

Whooh fella, slow down. No need to insult (bash???????

) English/British football fans. The majority are fine hardworking people, Nothing wrong with that you know.
I happen to agree with "Jose Mourinho" actually. I too think Kimi is past his best. He definitely doesn´t display the desire he once had, and without fire in his belly, he´s not going to be as effective as he once was.
Of course, it´s possible the fire will return with a fresh challenge, but until it does, the jury is out I would say.
MaxScelerate
Nov 2 2009, 23:15
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Nov 1 2009, 10:40)

Villeneauve was right, Raikkonen was overrated, rubbish to say the least... his past his prime now
Funny how Villeneuve's name could be invoked whenever some troll needs some 'air support'. I don't like the wall, "Jack was right, the wall is shite!". -- And then, like some flu virus from hell, it propagates and the next troll can build on the whole of JVi's real life quote, plus all the invented crap, like that thing about the wall I just wrote. Or that blurb about Raikkonen.
Sunflower
Nov 2 2009, 23:32
QUOTE (ex Rhodie racer 2 @ Nov 3 2009, 00:59)

Whooh fella, slow down. No need to insult (bash???????

) English/British football fans. The majority are fine hardworking people, Nothing wrong with that you know.
I happen to agree with "Jose Mourinho" actually. I too think Kimi is past his best. He definitely doesn´t display the desire he once had, and without fire in his belly, he´s not going to be as effective as he once was.
Of course, it´s possible the fire will return with a fresh challenge, but until it does, the jury is out I would say.
Please explain how Kimi is different now not showing the same desire he once had. How do you differentiate between the past and the presence of desire?
I seem to think Kimi is really behaving and doing what he always did from past to present...
Mauseri
Nov 2 2009, 23:39
QUOTE (teejay @ Nov 1 2009, 18:43)

I wrote this in the mp4-24 thread.
I genuinely believe they could mold him into a future star.
So you were the first one to propose the foolish idea? Great!
Mauseri
Nov 2 2009, 23:40
QUOTE (yvonne.kk @ Nov 1 2009, 18:47)

another KR-bash thread?
I'm glab I'm not obessed to bash any driver. It would be horrible to have to do that again and again.
Glad someone else fills the disgracefull position.
gerry nassar
Nov 3 2009, 02:30
Closed.
Flamebait from the first post and there is an existing Kobayashi thread - use that.
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