Any guesses for livery for next season? If Philips is increasing coverage once again might be be seeing some of the light blue?

Probable, specially because of RBS leaving.
There are chances that Brawn's Itaipava and TNT (as seem in Brazil) may follow Barrichello.

Do RBS finish up now, or at the end of 2010 - I thought the latter?

You're right, at the end of the 2010 season.

I wish I could read Portuguese!

Very much looking forward to January 31st already though .

Google can!

Yes Google can, then puts it into a form of English yet to be understood by 95% of English speakers!!!!

Williams sells stake in team


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80242

Will Williams move into another series too?

Who knows ? I dont really follow Williams that closely tbh, though I think I remember reading elsewhere that either earlier this year, or late last year, they made significant changes to legal documents pertaining to the structure of the company and other legalities that might arise due to potential ownership changes, if I can recall what it was I'll post in here.

Guys, can we keep the discussions in this thread to the Williams FW32 Cosworth.

There is a separate thread for the sale of equity.

Unless a major new sponsor signs up I can't see it being much different to this years.

Will Rubens bring some sponsorship with him? Will Air Asia defect to Malaysia-Lotus?

Air Asia's president (I think) is involved in the Lotus team, so I imagine at some point they may defect. Don't know how long the contract with Williams is though.

Of course he will!
He's hardly there for his calm, mythodical approach to racing & his team leading abilities

AMuS Review on Engines and James Allen's Take.

Williams lost 3 tenths per lap on average due to the Toyota compared to the Mercedes. If they had that engine, and all other things remained the same, Williams qualifying results would be much better, including 2 front rows and Nakajima making it through to Q3 many more times...

Aus NR 3 instead of 5, KN would have made it into Q3 instead of 11.
Mal NR 3, 6, KN into Q3, 12
Chi NR 7, 7, KN Q3, 15
Bah NR 9, 9, KN 11, 12
Spa NR 8, 9, KN Q3, 11
Mon NR 4, 6, KN 10, 10
Tur NR 8, 9, KN Q3, 12
GBr NR 5, 7, KN 4, 5
Ger NR 14, 15, KN Q3, 13
Hun NR 2, 5, KN 9, 9
Eur NR 6, 7, KN 16, 17
Bel NR 10, 10, KN 17, 18
Ita NR Q2, 18, KN Q2, 17
Sin NR 2, 3, KN Q3, 11
Jap NR 11, 11, KN Q2, 17
Bra NR 4, 7, KN 9, 8
Abu NR 8, 9, KN 12, 14

Yes i'm bored at work.

So Williams will gain 0.6s with the Cosworth which should make them regular winners? Sounds great.

0.3s (+15 hp, not using Toyotas) + 0.3s (+15hp, Cosworth is much more powerful than even Mercedes) = 0.6s ?

-0.3s due to the extra weight they have as the Cosworth is thirstier...

Plus questions remain about the reliability of the Cosworth, hopefully won't be a problem

Hindsight is a wonderful thing of course but this decision looks like a good one, considering what happened to Fisico

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80411

Old news, but lets go:



Edit: [Source]

Wow, took ages to find this thread!

We can't be having that now...

No news from the team for about a month now.... working hard for sure

I'm going to spend my one thousandth post on you and vociferously disagree. The Cosworth engine has been shown to be ultra competitive and potentially the best engine of the filed next year due to no limitations on current development. Cosworth has a fair bit of experience building F1 engines.

I say the team will only be let down by driver talent and other teams' superior tactics.

Rubens?

how do you figure that out when even the teams have not got their hands on the engine yet?
As for no limitations on development they still have to work to the same rules.
Yes we all know Cosworth have built a lot of F1 engines but they have not built any in the last few years and the engines have moved on a lot since the last time they powered an F1 car.

Would you care to elaborate on the changes in the last few years that is of such a revolutionary art that Cosworth, with the aid of at least 4 of their former engineers that they have gotten back from Mercedes, isn't going to understand?

Yes, they have to work to the same rules, which lays down a few basic guidelines and limits. The rest of the engines are having to deal with those regulations with a engine from 2006, designed for other limits. Cosworth, while using their 2006 engine as a basis, can make fundamental modifications and changes to that engine that the others cannot (Cosworth can do this as they are considered a new engine supplier). This means that Cosworth has the potential to avoid some of the compromises the others have to deal with. And on top of that the 2006 Cosworth was considered the best engine of the season, so even without the modifications they are allowed to do, Cosworth would arguably have the best base engine for the current rules.

Williams made a pretty good job this year with their chassis, i can see them be at least very good again in 2010.

http://twitpic.com/w49kr

Just the picture I was looking for!

Thanks man, Rubinho looks sharp.

Good'ol Rubens working out hard in his preps to 2010 season.

http://esportes.terra.com.br/automobilismo...+da+Disney.html

"
The brazilian completed the 21km of The Disney Marathon in 1h55min, standing 1,668th among 17,099 competitors that finished the event.
The temperature was around 1º Celsius.
Luciano Burti finished 1380º.
"

I wish I had such a performance.

Go Rubens, GO

That is excellent! I can't believe it has been so cold in Florida lately. On Rubens' Twitter page, every picture he has posted over the holidays has shown ski-weather type clothing in Florida! He should have come here to California! It has been 70-75 Fahrenheit lately.

I can't wait to see Rubens in the FW32!

I'm still waiting for Williams to get an inspirational driver again. I'm not Rubens is the guy - he will bring a lot of valuable experience to the team, though. They'll be up against it this year with Merc, Fez, Mac & RBR all bound to be competitive. Hopefully this Cosworth engine works wonders and that the team really has two drivers who are capable of scoring points.

I'm somehow disappointed by this result. A time of 1h55min in a 21 km race is below average. I would expect a 1h30min (it's about 4m30s per km!) for a person supposedly fit!!!

I thought RBS was no longer sponsoring Williams?

Oh and Rubens looks sharp in white, again.

They're locked into this year.

given his finishing position, he would of been in a great big pack of people at a guess

OT but...
but we dont know if he was just running for fun in a public event, or making a performance challenge like Jenson Button's

1.55 is really poor for a relative young man well prepared (as he is suposed to be).

drivers may not need to have such running rhythm

Engines ready to ship:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80810

Don't worry, he'll be quicker than that when he's in the Williams.

BTW, I always thought that the point of a car was that it negated the need to run (or walk, or stagger).

There is talk that RBS may extend. They have done with other sporting commitments. It is just part of its marketing budget.

I see that Cosworth has announced that its first batch of engines is ready to ship. READ

Nice and quiet at Williams. Somethings brewing.

Milk and two please.

Ruben's bodystructure (heavy bones) isn't great for a long distance runner. I think JPM is similar, and he was unfairly called fat for his muscles and bones

Either that or SFW & Patrick have decided to take on Brakspears


Come to think of it, a pint of 'Special FW14B Brew' sounds rather ok....

Last year Williams was quiet too and surprised the F1 world with their DDD version, alongside BrawnGP and Toyota.

However their aerodynamic was providing too much drag in high speed circuits and added to the Toyota engine, made them slip back in the ranks at the end of season.

If anyone has currently got that good vibe about all thing Williams. Have you seen the Williams Cutaways on the Nostalgia forum Cutaway thread by Tony Matthews? Good grief! I guarantee if you have not already seen them they will blow your mind. Perfection incarnate! Cockle warming ahead of the pre-season tests.

http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?show...751&st=3360 post 3370. There is a genius in our midst!

Perhaps a sponsorship opportunity? http://www.williamsbrosbrew.com/

I always have a good vibe about Williams, you just never know from one season to the next how they will perform and I still live in hope that we will return to some glory, this season I would settle for some podiums and feel the glory!!!!