Does anyone know if testing this year is to be screened?... or streamed online?.... TV?
Is there any coverage at all?
J
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QUOTE (Jay @ Jan 7 2010, 09:44) 
Does anyone know if testing this year is to be screened?... or streamed online?.... TV?
Is there any coverage at all?
J
Is there any coverage at all?
J
See this thread for that info:
http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=121526
QUOTE (femi @ Jan 7 2010, 19:11)
Great to watch McLaren gradually becoming a manufacturer. Can't wait for the first 12c road tests. I read they're having a hard time recruiting dealers in the US though, real shame there's still no US race.
QUOTE (undersquare @ Jan 7 2010, 21:48)
Great to watch McLaren gradually becoming a manufacturer. Can't wait for the first 12c road tests. I read they're having a hard time recruiting dealers in the US though, real shame there's still no US race.
The US auto industry is taking a bashing at the moment so it is not suprising with problems getting dealers to invest in a new brand. I believe it is going to take off once the car is getting mouth watering reviews from auto magazines, owners and other dealers. Lets keep everything crossed.
Wonder if all F1 teams will go down this route eventually.
With the lack of manufacturers in the sport, teams should look to becoming manufacturers.
With the lack of manufacturers in the sport, teams should look to becoming manufacturers.
QUOTE (femi @ Jan 7 2010, 22:26)
The US auto industry is taking a bashing at the moment so it is not suprising with problems getting dealers to invest in a new brand. I believe it is going to take off once the car is getting mouth watering reviews from auto magazines, owners and other dealers. Lets keep everything crossed.
another WDC and WCC this year will also go a long way in marketing the Mclaren brand
Another positive note about the 25, this time from Button. Found it on the times site.
As far as McLaren are concerned, Button is impressed by what he has seen. "I have a feeling we will produce a good car for 2010," he said. For his sake and the sport's, let us hope he is right.
As far as McLaren are concerned, Button is impressed by what he has seen. "I have a feeling we will produce a good car for 2010," he said. For his sake and the sport's, let us hope he is right.
Please keep this discussion about McLaren the F1 team and McLaren MP4-25 the F1 car. Discussions about the road car are not for this forum.
Jenson is sounding pretty chipper on Twitter...
The_Real_JB Had the most amazing holiday in Hawaii, It's so chilled on the big island so spent alot of time training with my lady Jessica, Ben & Asami
10 minutes ago from web
The_Real_JB Yesterday spent the day with my new team at MTC.. Already feeling good vibes :-)
The_Real_JB Had the most amazing holiday in Hawaii, It's so chilled on the big island so spent alot of time training with my lady Jessica, Ben & Asami
10 minutes ago from web
The_Real_JB Yesterday spent the day with my new team at MTC.. Already feeling good vibes :-)
QUOTE (potmotr @ Jan 8 2010, 16:44)
Jenson is sounding pretty chipper on Twitter...
Being World Champion, just joined one of the great teams in F1, multi-millionaire and having a missus like he has id be dissapointed if he was anything but
In the rollercoaster that is JB's career, he may have joined McLaren at just the right time.
QUOTE (SAFC09 @ Jan 8 2010, 16:54)
Being World Champion, just joined one of the great teams in F1, multi-millionaire and having a missus like he has id be dissapointed if he was anything but
That's true, he does have a mint lady.
QUOTE (potmotr @ Jan 8 2010, 17:10)
That's true, he does have a mint lady.
I wouldn't say no
She would though
QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 8 2010, 16:59)
In the rollercoaster that is JB's career, he may have joined McLaren at just the right time.
Well it's certainly a better time than 2009
. We hope
QUOTE (SAFC09 @ Jan 8 2010, 17:14)
I wouldn't say no
She would though
She would though
You just need to back yourself.
Sean Connery was once asked the secret to his success with ladies.
His reply? "Three things. Confidence, confidence and confidence."
QUOTE (potmotr @ Jan 8 2010, 18:06)
You just need to back yourself.
Sean Connery was once asked the secret to his success with ladies.
His reply? "Three things. Confidence, confidence and confidence."
Sean Connery was once asked the secret to his success with ladies.
His reply? "Three things. Confidence, confidence and confidence."
Thanks for the advice
My missus says i've got a bit too much confidence
QUOTE (potmotr @ Jan 8 2010, 18:06)
You just need to back yourself.
Sean Connery was once asked the secret to his success with ladies.
His reply? "Three things. Confidence, confidence and confidence."
Sean Connery was once asked the secret to his success with ladies.
His reply? "Three things. Confidence, confidence and confidence."
and ofcourse it didnt help that he was;
a) a movie star, and james bond of all characters...
b) lots of money
c)scottish accent back in them days was probably found charming by women when it is less so today in a world where things like that are part of every day.
and d) back on track, nice to see jenson sounding happy in any case, really looking forward to seeing the first practice session at bahrain with him in the paddock
A happy Jenson can only mean one thing.
He feels relaxed at McLaren.
Which will only help his racing.
He feels relaxed at McLaren.
Which will only help his racing.
QUOTE (potmotr @ Jan 8 2010, 17:10)
That's true, he does have a mint lady.
Thats what you get when you are minted.
Anyone catch that "Dead Zone" stuff on the F1Technical forum?
QUOTE (HarryReams @ Jan 10 2010, 17:18)
Anyone catch that "Dead Zone" stuff on the F1Technical forum?
Looks like jenson found the dead zone! ?
http://twitpic.com/wmj2x
QUOTE (HarryReams @ Jan 10 2010, 14:18)
Anyone catch that "Dead Zone" stuff on the F1Technical forum?
Yeah but the guy who works at McLaren and posted that stuff aka 'goony' was/is a fabricator and he is set to join Toro Rosso. It could just be Lunchtime tittle-tattle but...
QUOTE (TheArmchairCritic @ Jan 10 2010, 15:08)
Yeah but the guy who works at McLaren and posted that stuff aka 'goony' was/is a fabricator and he is set to join Toro Rosso. It could just be Lunchtime tittle-tattle but...
He posted some pics - but they were taken down a week later. Did you or anyone else see these?
I ask this because a few on the Ferrari forum say they saw these and allegedly forwarded them to a guy working in Maranello...
http://ferrarif1forum.com/2009/12/18/have-...mic-holy-grail/
"Hello forums administrator
I read with pleasure the article in “have-f1-Engineers-found-aerodynamic-holy-grail”.
after reading it I immediately contacted his friend Luca Colajanni (my friend) and asked me where I found this information.
Can you help me?
Thank you"
"Hello forums administrator
I read with pleasure the article in “have-f1-Engineers-found-aerodynamic-holy-grail”.
after reading it I immediately contacted his friend Luca Colajanni (my friend) and asked me where I found this information.
Can you help me?
Thank you"
QUOTE (HarryReams @ Jan 10 2010, 14:18)
Anyone catch that "Dead Zone" stuff on the F1Technical forum?
you mean this?
QUOTE
goony wrote:
Jersey Tom wrote:Since I missed it.. what's this dead zone theory? What's it even supposed to be?
IT was a wind up it doesnt really exist honestly but i shouldnt have confirmend the pic of the tub or said about looking for a new job thats all
goony
Jersey Tom wrote:Since I missed it.. what's this dead zone theory? What's it even supposed to be?
IT was a wind up it doesnt really exist honestly but i shouldnt have confirmend the pic of the tub or said about looking for a new job thats all
goony
QUOTE (Darth Sidious @ Jan 10 2010, 15:17)
you mean this?
He was a WUM then (he deleted all of his posts so I could find anything on it).
BTW: Happy New Year Darth
QUOTE (HarryReams @ Jan 10 2010, 15:55)
He was a WUM then (he deleted all of his posts so I could find anything on it).
BTW: Happy New Year Darth
Cheers mate, you too.
Im not in this ''dead zone'' situation, what is it?
In nature, Dead Zone = Areas of low oxygen... so it must be a vaccum type thingy.
It looks like it's all a WU anyways.
It looks like it's all a WU anyways.
QUOTE (bogi @ Jan 10 2010, 19:26)
Im not in this ''dead zone'' situation, what is it?
It means McLaren WDC & WCC 2010.
You know last year there was the transparent engine cover, this year it's the DEAD ZONE!
Will the bird in the invisible cage make it back for testing this year ??
QUOTE (MinT @ Jan 10 2010, 17:42)
Will the bird in the invisible cage make it back for testing this year ??
Hope so the bird was dang cool ;)
Remember talks about rear wing of silver donkey in high speed corners, how it is completely switched off in that situation? Actually, it would be desirable effect on long straights. And only problem is how to switch off aerodynamic device on straights and turn it back on in corners. Maybe our mechanics had brain storm idea while Lewis was cornering trough turn 8 in Turkey dramatically slower than anyone else
QUOTE (kerum gp @ Jan 10 2010, 19:54)
Remember talks about rear wing of silver donkey in high speed corners, how it is completely switched off in that situation? Actually, it would be desirable effect on long straights. And only problem is how to switch off aerodynamic device on straights and turn it back on in corners. Maybe our mechanics had brain storm idea while Lewis was cornering trough turn 8 in Turkey dramatically slower than anyone else
Yes, stalling wings. But they introduce drag, though I cannot know how that compares to drag of the same wing non-stalling.
If the dead zone thing has some real thing behind it, I think it relates to the diffuser. Diffuser/the underfloor can 'stall', no flow, or no enough fast airflow under the floor causes drastic reduction in downforce.
Perhaps now we know why McLaren were developing with such vigour towards the end of last season.
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Jan 10 2010, 18:36)
Perhaps now we know why McLaren were developing with such vigour towards the end of last season.
Hmm I read in another thread that the frantic development towards the end of the season was merely a last-ditch attempt to keep Mercedes on board.
QUOTE (JPW @ Jan 10 2010, 17:42)
Hmm I read in another thread that the frantic development towards the end of the season was merely a last-ditch attempt to keep Mercedes on board.
If that's true then that is indeed interesting.
Wonder if it'll disadvantage McLaren compared to Ferrari.
Only three more weeks until we find out.
What do you guys make of this story?
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_new...es_art_id=39750
QUOTE
McLaren should have had a golden year financially in 2008. having won the world championship with Lewis Hamilton. However, the company's bottom line crashed 40.6% giving the group an after-tax loss of £44m
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_new...es_art_id=39750
QUOTE (Gilles4Ever @ Jan 10 2010, 17:53)
I'd say that is a result of the groups expansion into manufacturing proper. It's interesting though that what eventually became the R&D budget for the road car project, initially started life as an 'unapproved' funding stream. Master-plan or secrets being kept from Merc?
QUOTE (Gilles4Ever @ Jan 10 2010, 17:53)
The F1 team made a profit. It would appear that the loss was from development costs of the new McLaren road car.
Where are all these new Button pictures coming from that websites are using? I can't seem to find the pictures on the mclaren website.
McLaren Twitter.
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 10 2010, 17:46)
If that's true then that is indeed interesting.
Wonder if it'll disadvantage McLaren compared to Ferrari.
Only three more weeks until we find out.
Wonder if it'll disadvantage McLaren compared to Ferrari.
Only three more weeks until we find out.
Its a comment on the Max/McLaren bash thread with any evidence or substance or evidence by a person who trys to pass a lot of things of as fact which are is his own opinion, I'd give it a credence level of 0.
QUOTE (hunnylander @ Jan 10 2010, 17:06)
Yes, stalling wings. But they introduce drag, though I cannot know how that compares to drag of the same wing non-stalling.
If the dead zone thing has some real thing behind it, I think it relates to the diffuser. Diffuser/the underfloor can 'stall', no flow, or no enough fast airflow under the floor causes drastic reduction in downforce.
If the dead zone thing has some real thing behind it, I think it relates to the diffuser. Diffuser/the underfloor can 'stall', no flow, or no enough fast airflow under the floor causes drastic reduction in downforce.
AFAIK the stalling would be to reduce drag. That was the principle of the flexi floors. But downforce disappears with the stall so it would have to be perfectly calibrated to each circuit otherwise fast corners would be a disaster area.
QUOTE (JPW @ Jan 10 2010, 17:42)
Hmm I read in another thread that the frantic development towards the end of the season was merely a last-ditch attempt to keep Mercedes on board.
Don't worry. Jenson will make the car up to standards and bring the WDC|WCC back to McLaren after a very long wait!
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 10 2010, 17:46)
If that's true then that is indeed interesting.
Wonder if it'll disadvantage McLaren compared to Ferrari.
Only three more weeks until we find out.
Wonder if it'll disadvantage McLaren compared to Ferrari.
Only three more weeks until we find out.
JPW post in a McLaren thread, of course it's not true
The split was set in train by McLaren, when Ron decided to build road cars without Merc. It left Merc paying to promote a rival brand. Last year the team switched to 2010 quite early but transfrerred anything relevant to 2009 as well.
QUOTE (undersquare @ Jan 10 2010, 18:27)
JPW post in a McLaren thread, of course it's not true
The split was set in train by McLaren, when Ron decided to build road cars without Merc. It left Merc paying to promote a rival brand. Last year the team switched to 2010 quite early but transfrerred anything relevant to 2009 as well.
The split was set in train by McLaren, when Ron decided to build road cars without Merc. It left Merc paying to promote a rival brand. Last year the team switched to 2010 quite early but transfrerred anything relevant to 2009 as well.
Well, I only joined three days ago, so I don't know anyone well enough.
QUOTE (TheF1PERSON @ Jan 10 2010, 18:30)
Well, I only joined three days ago, so I don't know anyone well enough.
Yeah I know, not having a dig at you at all
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