exactly, there were actually a few of us in here that questioned the design from the beginning, but yes mclaren cars always tends to look nice

Personally I'm having a hard time getting excited by any of the launches because you know that all the cars are going to be closer together this year (stable aero regs) and you know that winter testing isn't going to tell you much. To refresh everyone's memory, last winter it was thought that the Renault could be competitve (there was optimism at least from Renault fans), that the Ferrari was the main front runner, Brawn wasn't even on the radar until late and the Redbull was thought to be 5th or 6th (or 8th) best team. You get to Melbourne and it's Brawn, Redbull, Williams, Toyota etc.

This is the part of the season where everyone loves to argue with each other in the winter testing topic about stupid things like which way the wind is blowing on the track because everyone knows their season hinges on how good or bad the car is. Everyone is desperate for a little hint as to what it can be. But we don't find out properly until Saturday night in the first GP weekend.

It's like the wait between second Friday practice and qualifying... except it lasts for 2 MONTHS. Arghh. Bring on Bahrain already.

It´ll dominate the 2010 F1 championship for sure!!!
Not even Newey can come up with something like that

Undecided on the anvil, the front wing is insane, looks awesome!!

The top view accentuates the dragster look look of mp4-25

Nice to see the wheels again

Anyway, bring on the testing!!

McLaren always tend towards the radical, it doesnt always pay off. Their car design is no surprise.

I do think the silver paint gives an extra illusion of more detail though.

they learnt a good lesson about aero compromising last year.


I expect this car to be fast, only question is if they are in front or a few teams are faster.... there is also the reliability thing, but Macs have recently being very reliable

Blimey, bet you said similar last year...

someone posted this picture

is it possible that the F10 is THIS long ??? They will bleed out on the street circuits.

Newey never made an ugly car, IIRC, and when he makes them fast...
Anyhow, testing begins on Monday or Tuesday? I wanna see them all at the track!

Doesn't that show that the McLaren is longer?

The team is so confident, it can only be damn good I mean.
Let´s see what Red Bull and Mercedes can do, bring it on

last year's car didn't look radical at all

and front bottoms

lol

yep, last years car just looked like they removed 2008 winglets, added bigger sidepods for KERS and launched...


this looks much more interesting,

I have a feeling that front wing wont be what is raced in Bahrain

only thing that worries me abit is the car length...both the F10 and 25 are long and could suffer in a circuit like Monaco...

long as the other cars are long I guess

Radical stuff here... yet the shark fin was supposed to be a solution for longitudinal instability, was it not back in 2008? Unless this is just a launch configuration, maybe Macca is having similar problems with those more widely aired about Ferrari's F10. Someone posted earlier a photo of Schumacher's 96 Ferrari - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm..._Schumacher.jpg - which is exactly in tune with my first thoughts - that car was also quite radical looking but not a WCC contender.
Gut feeling: this might just turn out to be the Homer Simpson F1 car http://randombuzz.net/wp-content/uploads/2...rsimpsoncar.gif

the bended engine cover reminds me of the F60 (at the presentation)

Christ, that 1996 Ferrari was hideous.

McLaren have redefined the meaning of the word, ugly. I can´t believe this is the final version. They are taking the piss, surely?
When are they going to show us the real one?

You think they would design and build a wing just for the launch?

Surely if the wing was just for show they would do like Ferrari and put an 09 wing on?

It probably wont be exactly like the one raced but I am pretty sure thats a will be used next week wing and a modified version come Bahrain.

I'm slightly surprised to see that the car is still silver.

NO. The McLaren is longer judging from that picture.

Flawed comparision if you ask me.

The car is long, it didn't even fit in the teams elevator. But these picture comparisons aren't the most accurate, especially at this low resolution.

Karthikeyan?

the RWEP looks more simple than last year, the FW is inspired by the RB5 on first glance, but the FWEP looks just awesome

nope I think it will be tested also, but I just have a gut feeling its an initial design (perhaps for baseline readings/to throw rivals a bit off) with something else in store... perhaps cos to me, the front wing is the only part that doesnt seem so radical

I´m going to rename this abomination, the tear drop McLaren after the sidepod shape. I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of wet eyes amongst their supporters as well as the year progresses, so it will be sort of fitting, as well as screamingly funny. LOL.

The shape of it (as seen on the aerial view) is something different though, isn't it?

agree, but it's obvious that ferrari is keeping the trend from 09 with a VERY long nose section

I think the wheelbase will probably only be about an inch or two longer than the F10. Could be wrong though.

in the end it's all down to the speed not to the looks

Fantastic looking car!

Jenson and Lewis will have fun with it this year!

McLaren's online launch was better allround compared to Ferrari's, is this an omen?

Any high res photos for wallpaper?

25 - front view

Great shot.

last years shorter wheelbase version update mp-4 24B (or however you want to call it) was 22mm shorter. one or two inches doesn't seem a lot, but it makes all the difference. To be fair, mclaren didn't have a lot of room last year to play with ballast so the wheelbase could have been more of a factor then.

yea it is, anyways, the pace verdict starts on Monday...cant wait

It looks live a very slim car, especially the engine cover. Last year they went for the curvy beer-activated-girl design and this year, it's the half starved super-model. I like the front view though, it looks "all business"

It was thought that the Renault could be competitive? IIRC it looked like a dog in winter testing, right from the start.

Ferrari was not seen as the main front runner either, Massa openly said that they were well behind Brawn and the tests did not go against his prediction (the eventual results confirmed it, and then some).

Brawn not even on the radar? Not until they first tested their car I guess, and pretty much from that moment on they were the favorites for 2009 - and again Massa also said that openly during winter testing. Of course, there were a lot of people here who couldn't believe that and kept saying Brawn was running underweight to get sponsors, but many others predicted a championship fought between Button and Barrichello. There was a poll in winter testing, asking if Brawn would score a 1-2 in Melbourne (which, sure enough, they did).

Red Bull thought to be 8th best team? Vettel looked fast right out of the box, set a lap record at Jerez IIRC, in early testing. The only thing that looked a bit bad for them was the double-decker diffuser, which they didn't have while Brawn, Toyota and Williams did. The relatively "bad" performance of the latter 2 was the only main surprise in Melbourne. What was not a surprise was how bad the McLaren was, that had clearly been shown in testing.

MP4-25 vs F10 front view (by f1fanatic)

Hardly relevant with an incomparable camera set up. Check the tyres. They should've been the same size.

it's for comparing the shape of the cars, nothing more

One thing that sprang to mind, looking at the typical disparaging comments from the Tiffosi was; at least nobody can say that the 25 was a copy in any way from Ferrari's data. It's very radical in many aspects of its design. I'm hoping that silly last-resort argument from the Ferrari fans won't be used any more when they finish either in the middle or the back of the field ;)

But seriously, looking at the very low profile of the car from the front, it really does look as if they have tried to make it as neutral as possible. All the bulky part of the car is centered as much as possible in all axis. I think perhaps the mistake in the last couple of years was to perhaps make the car biased in a given way, which would explain he setup issue I think McLaren had at the start of 2008 and the total failure that was last year.

I just hope that it's neutral AND fast. Can't wait until the first test!

You think McLaren designed a car to throw rivals off? If so, they did it in 2009 (if anyone would have copied the original MP4/24, those would have been thrown off!). No, teams can't waste resources and time on such a pointless thing. All the rivals have their car designed already, and have the prototype completed or are at least close to it. This is the car for 2010 for McLaren. It's not pretty, but it does look like they had a few fresh ideas. Here's to hoping it works

It looks incredible from that angle. Very small considering the fuel tank.

Entertaining to see the smacktalking of McLaren-haters, as always.

Car looks striking. I love how everyone pisses & moans that the cars all look the same, then someone comes out with something different and it's "a dog" and "ugly & slow looking"

A beautiful and unique car. It certainly does look fast. I hope it will be dominating next season. The Ferrari looks very old next to it. Like left over from a previous generation.

So, What do you think?

We're impressed. Congratulations, and hopefully it will be very, very fast.