I think we completely ignore the fact that F1 is a team sport, LH with JB, we compete with teams and LH and JB should team up, and we should do the same, F1 isnt about teammates competing each other and if you think that you totaly dont get the idea behind F1.
We should unite as McLaren fans, stand on the same site instead of this LH vs JB. There are another 24 drivers out there we are going to battle.
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I'm a McLaren fan since mid 90's thus support the drivers in it. Lewis has done a fantastic job for the team, and respect him for the things he has done so far. I hope LH and JB arent too focused battling each other that 'Two dogs strive for a bone, and the third runs away with it.' so of speak.
Because, LH with JB is a thriller and killer combination.
Because, LH with JB is a thriller and killer combination.
QUOTE (Bruce4u @ Jan 9 2010, 21:56) 
We should unite as McLaren fans, stand on the same site instead of this LH vs JB.
I don't know why but i feel like getting up and giving it the old fist pump after that
I've never really been a fan of a team, i'm a driver sort of fan
I was starting to have a soft spot for Brawn, then the way JB was seemingly treated, that quickly went
I hope i can start to feel some love for McLaren, i need to start laying some roots
QUOTE (SAFC09 @ Jan 9 2010, 23:14)
I don't know why but i feel like getting up and giving it the old fist pump after that
I've never really been a fan of a team, i'm a driver sort of fan
I was starting to have a soft spot for Brawn, then the way JB was seemingly treated, that quickly went
I hope i can start to feel some love for McLaren, i need to start laying some roots
I've never really been a fan of a team, i'm a driver sort of fan
I was starting to have a soft spot for Brawn, then the way JB was seemingly treated, that quickly went
I hope i can start to feel some love for McLaren, i need to start laying some roots
Why do i have the feeling you are going to love McLaren as soon Button wins his 2nd WDC in that car
, or maybe as soon as McLaren gives JB and LH a car to win races with.
QUOTE (Bruce4u @ Jan 9 2010, 22:20)
Why do i have the feeling you are going to love McLaren as soon Button wins his 2nd WDC in that car , or maybe as soon as McLaren gives JB and LH a car to win races with.
, or maybe as soon as McLaren gives JB and LH a car to win races with. That just might sway me
QUOTE (SAFC09 @ Jan 9 2010, 23:23)
That just might sway me
I hope i can remind you to this comment after Bahrain GP, when we claim a dominant 1-2
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QUOTE (Bruce4u @ Jan 9 2010, 22:26)
I hope i can remind you to this comment after Bahrain GP, when we claim a dominant 1-2 .
.Watch it go tits up now
QUOTE (SAFC09 @ Jan 9 2010, 23:31)
Watch it go tits up now
"F1 isnt about teammates competing each other and if you think that you totaly dont get the idea behind F1."
Maybe you don't get it.....driver's love outqualifying their teammate and outracing them because it makes them look like theyre doing the best job possible, i know f1 is a team sport but when you get down to the bottom of it, the drivers want to beat everybody and that includes their teammate.
Maybe you don't get it.....driver's love outqualifying their teammate and outracing them because it makes them look like theyre doing the best job possible, i know f1 is a team sport but when you get down to the bottom of it, the drivers want to beat everybody and that includes their teammate.
QUOTE (tom @ Jan 10 2010, 06:12)
"F1 isnt about teammates competing each other and if you think that you totaly dont get the idea behind F1."
Maybe you don't get it.....driver's love outqualifying their teammate and outracing them because it makes them look like theyre doing the best job possible, i know f1 is a team sport but when you get down to the bottom of it, the drivers want to beat everybody and that includes their teammate.
Maybe you don't get it.....driver's love outqualifying their teammate and outracing them because it makes them look like theyre doing the best job possible, i know f1 is a team sport but when you get down to the bottom of it, the drivers want to beat everybody and that includes their teammate.
Wasn't it Jensons main reason to go to McLaren,
to challenge and to beat Lewis in the same car?
He said it several times
I didn't hear him or read from him, he wants to beat Ferrari or the RedBulls
or he want's to be WDC with McLaren
His main reason to leave Brawn and to join McLaren was Lewis and the challenge to beat him.
Jenson and Lewis are ok drivers. I can see them steering Mclaren to a top 5 place in the WCC next year.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Jan 10 2010, 10:44)
Jenson and Lewis are ok drivers. I can see them steering Mclaren to a top 5 place in the WCC next year.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Please can we have some more, that is so funny that you can't even get upset with it, lol.
Poor poor Alonso and Massa getting beat by 2nd class drivers, doesn't say much about them being super drivers
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Jan 10 2010, 13:44)
Jenson and Lewis are ok drivers. I can see them steering Mclaren to a top 5 place in the WCC next year.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
That's laughable. And shows that you didn't watch, and didn't even read about, the '07-season. But let me tell you, that a rookie Hamilton matched his team-mate Alonso that year! Finished equal on points!
Massa a super driver? Hehe.
Clearly you're trying to stir the pot.
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Jan 10 2010, 11:44)
Jenson and Lewis are ok drivers. I can see them steering Mclaren to a top 5 place in the WCC next year.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
Lewis beat Alonso and Massa, while Button beat Vettel... really hard when 'ok drivers' beat 'super drivers'
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QUOTE (velgajski1 @ Jan 10 2010, 11:25)
Lewis beat Alonso and Massa, while Button beat Vettel... really hard when 'ok drivers' beat 'super drivers' ))
))Jenson beat the whole lot hence he's the best
He'll bring the WCC back to McLaren after a decade of misfiring. He's the last piece of the puzzle
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Jan 10 2010, 18:44)
Jenson and Lewis are ok drivers. I can see them steering Mclaren to a top 5 place in the WCC next year.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
(As I go to sleep tonight)
"Dear God, please make me an 'OK' driver"!
QUOTE (timba @ Jan 10 2010, 19:29)
Jenson beat the whole lot hence he's the best
He'll bring the WCC back to McLaren after a decade of misfiring. He's the last piece of the puzzle
He'll bring the WCC back to McLaren after a decade of misfiring. He's the last piece of the puzzle
Not far from the truth, he is bringing all of Honda/Brawn's secrets with him.
QUOTE (tom @ Jan 10 2010, 06:12)
Maybe you don't get it.....driver's love outqualifying their teammate and outracing them because it makes them look like theyre doing the best job possible, i know f1 is a team sport but when you get down to the bottom of it, the drivers want to beat everybody and that includes their teammate.
Let me express myself, F1 for me is 'F1 is a team sport where you only reach your goals by working together.', If it is only up to what drivers do during the season and not the team, why is there a WCC after all? Maybe Bernie doesnt get it.
QUOTE (cheapracer @ Jan 10 2010, 11:34)
Not far from the truth, he is bringing all of Honda/Brawn's secrets with him.
In a sound-proof, screened room at McLaren:
Whitmarsh: "OK, Jense, let's have it..."
Button: "Have what?"
Whitmarsh: "Brawn's secrets, how did they do it? What have they got that we haven't?"
Button: "Apart from the Constructors' Championship, you mean?"
Whitmarsh: "At Vodaphone McLaren Mercedes, the drivers do not make jokes."
Button: "We save that for the track?"
Whitmarsh: "Stick to the subject. Brawn's secrets. What do they put in their tyres?"
Button: "Air, just like you."
Whitmarsh: "What's their weight distribution?"
Button: "Same as yours, more or less."
Whitmarsh: "What clever innovations have they got in their suspension or brakes?"
Button: "None and none, they're just well refined."
Whitmarsh: "So what HAVE they got?"
Button: "Ross Brawn."
Hahahahahahahahahahaha classic.
Jenson is only about as quick as barrichello, i reckon an easy 5 tenths hamlton will put on him at bahrain
Jenson is only about as quick as barrichello, i reckon an easy 5 tenths hamlton will put on him at bahrain
QUOTE (Bruce4u @ Jan 10 2010, 12:57)
Let me express myself, F1 for me is 'F1 is a team sport where you only reach your goals by working together.', If it is only up to what drivers do during the season and not the team, why is there a WCC after all? Maybe Bernie doesnt get it.;)
Isn't this where McLaren arrived at a couple of years ago with Fernando and Lewis. Then Lewis wanted to be first, then they tried to trick each other, then Ron said "We were racing Alonso", then somehow Max got involved about some e-mails, then the whole season came to the last race and somehow neither driver won.
Maybe with a little more
between the two Brits, things might turn out OK! Or maybe not!!
Dear, things are getting even worse for Lewis 
he just broke up with longtime gf and pussycat doll Nicole. While Jenson is mixing it up with his illustrious geisha model on holiday 
How will Hamilton find motivation now? Jense has got this duel covered 99%
he just broke up with longtime gf and pussycat doll Nicole. While Jenson is mixing it up with his illustrious geisha model on holiday How will Hamilton find motivation now? Jense has got this duel covered 99%
Or the sexual frustratrion will make hamilton a complete maniac at the wheel, with his only complaint of the year being 'why won't jensey get out the way when i'm lapping him'
QUOTE (timba @ Jan 11 2010, 10:27)
Dear, things are getting even worse for Lewis he just broke up with longtime gf and pussycat doll Nicole. While Jenson is mixing it up with his illustrious geisha model on holiday How will Hamilton find motivation now? Jense has got this duel covered 99%
he just broke up with longtime gf and pussycat doll Nicole. While Jenson is mixing it up with his illustrious geisha model on holiday How will Hamilton find motivation now? Jense has got this duel covered 99% The keypeople behind Lewis' success is his father, not a girlfriend whom he didn't take too seriously.
Oh no! It's going to be so difficult for the good looking rich race car driver to find a new hot girlfriend!
QUOTE (tkulla @ Jan 11 2010, 11:55)
Oh no! It's going to be so difficult for the good looking rich race car driver to find a new hot girlfriend! ;)
You forgot to mention that he is rich and good looking too.
maybe it puts lewis disadvantaged as he has to learn a new engineer? and so does jenson.
Is this a shot in the foot by Mclaren to put 2 inexperienced race engineers in the front line?>
Is this a shot in the foot by Mclaren to put 2 inexperienced race engineers in the front line?>
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ Jan 11 2010, 04:03)
You forgot to mention that he is rich and good looking too.
QUOTE (mstar @ Jan 11 2010, 20:10)
maybe it puts lewis disadvantaged as he has to learn a new engineer? and so does jenson.
Is this a shot in the foot by Mclaren to put 2 inexperienced race engineers in the front line?>
Is this a shot in the foot by Mclaren to put 2 inexperienced race engineers in the front line?>
I think no. Phil Prew will help both new race engineer, and Jakob isn't inexperienced. He was assistant race engineer to Lewis on the side of Phil. There was a video with those two (Phil Prew and Jakob Andreasen) explaining their jobs a bit.
I’m so sorry coz I’m sure this is not the appropriate thread for this but I just had to say this out. In this very competitive and aggressive world of F1, Heikki has just made my heart melt. He has always had a warm heart but the comments that I’ve been reading from him over the past few days and weeks have just made me think he is such an awesome Kid. He has not a bad word about Lewis (if anything he is tipping him for the title) and there is not a bad word about Mclaren. I really do wish him all the best for the future
A shame that Shov didn't go with Jenson to McLaren.
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ Jan 11 2010, 12:03)
You forgot to mention that he is rich and good looking too.
you forgot to mention he is a wdc winner too.
Just like his team mate too
.Got too say it looks bad for Ferrari when you see arguments on their side (past(MS) future(FA) present(FM) sad but enjoying every second of it and we all know it will only get worse) but over here both sets from each side of the garage realise together they could do what McLaren really want the WCC and heck perhaps just perhaps if the car is right from the get go a WDC could be on the cards too
QUOTE (Bruce4u @ Jan 9 2010, 21:56)
I think we completely ignore the fact that F1 is a team sport, LH with JB, we compete with teams and LH and JB should team up, and we should do the same, F1 isnt about teammates competing each other and if you think that you totaly dont get the idea behind F1.
We should unite as McLaren fans, stand on the same site instead of this LH vs JB. There are another 24 drivers out there we are going to battle.
We should unite as McLaren fans, stand on the same site instead of this LH vs JB. There are another 24 drivers out there we are going to battle.
I agree 100%, but you must also understand that many of the posts in this thread are not Macca fans.
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Jan 10 2010, 10:44)
Jenson and Lewis are ok drivers. I can see them steering Mclaren to a top 5 place in the WCC next year.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
They havent got an out and out super driver like Alonso, Massa, or Vettel, but they may be ok. Take a few podiums.
Good luck to them. Hope you guys arent too hard on the boys.
Yeah you're right, Luca Badoer and Yuji Ide would have been a much better choice.
McLaren a British team, with two British world champions, with engines built in Britain and looks set to have a British test driver.
QUOTE (THE @ Jan 11 2010, 18:42)
A shame that Shov didn't go with Jenson to McLaren.
are you serious?????????? i don't rate him that much. Some races the car set-up solutions were not as good. Jock clear was far superior.
QUOTE (tkulla @ Jan 11 2010, 12:55)
Oh no! It's going to be so difficult for the good looking rich race car driver to find a new hot girlfriend! ;)
There is no truth in the rumour that Lewis is consulting Tiger; is there?
QUOTE (Arnaldo @ Jan 12 2010, 11:48)
There is no truth in the rumour that Lewis is consulting Tiger; is there?
Tiger? Half his problem there is that the women were not that hot. Same with Bill & Monica, it would have been a lot better if she'd been gorgeous and irresistible. Lewis will not be making that mistake, the competition with Jense will definitely include the loveliness of their girls.
We hope
.
QUOTE (THE @ Jan 11 2010, 18:42)
A shame that Shov didn't go with Jenson to McLaren.
He's with MS now.
QUOTE (THE @ Jan 11 2010, 18:46)
McLaren looks set to have a British test driver.
who?
QUOTE (undersquare @ Jan 12 2010, 12:54)
Tiger? Half his problem there is that the women were not that hot. Same with Bill & Monica, it would have been a lot better if she'd been gorgeous and irresistible.
OTOH, once it's dark and you're lying down, hot is way overrated. In fact no indication whatsoever on the level of fun you can have.
QUOTE (THE @ Jan 11 2010, 18:46)
Yeah you're right, Luca Badoer and Yuji Ide would have been a much better choice.
McLaren a British team, with two British world champions, with engines built in Britain and looks set to have a British test driver.
McLaren a British team, with two British world champions, with engines built in Britain and looks set to have a British test driver.
I knew someone would take the bate
Does that make someone a master-bater?
QUOTE (klyster @ Jan 12 2010, 12:08)
Does that make you a master bater?
QUOTE (mp4-a @ Jan 11 2010, 18:32)
I’m so sorry coz I’m sure this is not the appropriate thread for this but I just had to say this out. In this very competitive and aggressive world of F1, Heikki has just made my heart melt. He has always had a warm heart but the comments that I’ve been reading from him over the past few days and weeks have just made me think he is such an awesome Kid. He has not a bad word about Lewis (if anything he is tipping him for the title) and there is not a bad word about Mclaren. I really do wish him all the best for the future Pull yourself together, F1 is for real men - no need for blushes and warm hearts.
Please keep the thread on topic - Jenson vs Lewis
On topic for a change. In todays "Motorsport aktuell" there's an article about LH/JB with some, ehm, interesting parts:
- allegedly Ross Brawn teached Jenson how important it is to gather your side of the pit around you as close as possible
- allegedly as a part of that process JB has made sure he vistited the factory specifically on those days LH was not there
- allegedly Buttons father is a likeable lad and provides a good mood inside his sons team
- allegedly Hamiltons dad is, wait for it.... "burned with ambition like a figureskating mom"
Always trying to influence things behind the scenes, very political and stopping at nothing to protect Lewis.
For what it's worth. The author is a certain Norbert Ockenga, in case someone feels like sending a Ninja squad...
- allegedly Ross Brawn teached Jenson how important it is to gather your side of the pit around you as close as possible
- allegedly as a part of that process JB has made sure he vistited the factory specifically on those days LH was not there
- allegedly Buttons father is a likeable lad and provides a good mood inside his sons team
- allegedly Hamiltons dad is, wait for it.... "burned with ambition like a figureskating mom"
Always trying to influence things behind the scenes, very political and stopping at nothing to protect Lewis.For what it's worth. The author is a certain Norbert Ockenga, in case someone feels like sending a Ninja squad...
QUOTE (as65p @ Jan 12 2010, 12:20)
On topic for a change. In todays "Motorsport aktuell" there's an article about LH/JB with some, ehm, interesting parts:
- allegedly Ross Brawn teached Jenson how important it is to gather your side of the pit around you as close as possible
- allegedly as a part of that process JB has made sure he vistited the factory specifically on those days LH was not there
- allegedly Buttons father is a likeable lad and provides a good mood inside his sons team
- allegedly Hamiltons dad is, wait for it.... "burned with ambition like a figureskating mom" Always trying to influence things behind the scenes, very political and stopping at nothing to protect Lewis.
For what it's worth. The author is a certain Norbert Ockenga, in case someone feels like sending a Ninja squad...
- allegedly Ross Brawn teached Jenson how important it is to gather your side of the pit around you as close as possible
- allegedly as a part of that process JB has made sure he vistited the factory specifically on those days LH was not there
- allegedly Buttons father is a likeable lad and provides a good mood inside his sons team
- allegedly Hamiltons dad is, wait for it.... "burned with ambition like a figureskating mom"
Always trying to influence things behind the scenes, very political and stopping at nothing to protect Lewis.For what it's worth. The author is a certain Norbert Ockenga, in case someone feels like sending a Ninja squad...
All sounds perfectly plausible. If he wins over Whitmarsh's support and Ron keeps his hairy nose out, Jenson's got the battle fully won
QUOTE (as65p @ Jan 12 2010, 12:20)
- allegedly Hamiltons dad is, wait for it.... "burned with ambition like a figureskating mom"
Never heard anyone described like that before
As far as I'm concerened, Button just needs to beat those qualifying jitters he experienced in the second half of last season.
If he can do that, and stick with Hamilton in qualifying, his race pace will trouble Hamilton and I'm anticipating some mistakes. Button's style allows him to relentlessly lap the circuit with almost robot like precision and I will be fascinated to see how Hamilton deals with that.
If he can do that, and stick with Hamilton in qualifying, his race pace will trouble Hamilton and I'm anticipating some mistakes. Button's style allows him to relentlessly lap the circuit with almost robot like precision and I will be fascinated to see how Hamilton deals with that.
QUOTE (SAFC09 @ Jan 12 2010, 13:31)
Never heard anyone described like that before
But it's a colourful picture, isn't it?
For the nitpickers, the german text is "vom Ehrgeiz getrieben wie eine Eiskunstlauf-Mutter".
On second thought "driven by ambition like a figureskating mom" would be more accurate.
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