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schumaster
Now with better lighting, we can see the beauty of the car....I like it....elegant!! clap.gif
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (Burai @ Feb 1 2010, 03:39) *
It certainly works better on the contours of the W01 than it does the BGP001


They should scrap the patch of black, have Mercedes-Benz in black lettering on the engine cover, and the shark-fin in black.

IMO of course.. it's a very underwhelming livery..
Urawa
The airbox looks very interesting but the sidepod inlets are a bit huge for a Mercedes powered car, not?
Captain Tightpants
That front wing is really bulky in comparison to the rest of the car ...
One
QUOTE (jee @ Feb 1 2010, 09:35) *



Great Nose Job done, looks to me. Let us see what kind of time it will do.


...


The bend of the nose is so strong... like someone punched him to hard with his fist... I look like a animal nose that will sniff around the track so hard like a vacuum cleaner that is sucks the car down to the bottom and there fore unbeatable...


Exhaust,... perhaps they had no time at all to fix it for today. up.gif
jee
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Feb 1 2010, 09:43) *
They should scrap the patch of black, have Mercedes-Benz in black lettering on the engine cover, and the shark-fin in black.

IMO of course.. it's a very underwhelming livery..


In front of the black stripe on the engine cover are air inlets.
Gilles4Ever
To me the exposed exhausts means that's not the engine cover they will actually be racing.
Chubby_Deuce
QUOTE (Metal @ Feb 1 2010, 00:29) *
The front wing is old, i think it doesnt make sense to hide the new wing, if they have it, further more. I think other teasm will start testing their front wing this week. Every1 kept saying that u need a high nose for the new extreme(triple) diffusers and they have a rather low one, i hope they dont have last years diffuser. Brawn worked on last years car to the last race and it shows for now.


welcom 2 autosport
Ruud de la Rosa
any pictures of the rear?
Timstr11
Innovative low drag airbox:
http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/oprn6rc11.jpg
http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/kdcgvg8u5.jpg

They've completely redesigned the front. Didn't expect that:
http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/hfm6maol1.jpg
Very high front, single keel, steering arm now mounted higher.
One
QUOTE (Gilles4Ever @ Feb 1 2010, 09:48) *
To me the exposed exhausts means that's not the engine cover they will actually be racing.


It is like sayin to you rkid, I would not buy your shoes today but do it end of this month, 'cause you grow to fast.... tongue.gif
Neophiliac
1. Why is anyone concerned about the front wing/exhausts issues? Brawn said that there will be a new aero package before Bahrain, didn't he? In testing, it's always useful to have some reference points and if they can use an old wing for one, all the better. It's not really all that surprising that the new car should be a careful evolution of the old one, which wasn't all that shabby.

2. Sidepods do look fatter than Mclaren. I'd like to see length comparisons, but my hunch is that they went with a shorter car and had different thoughts on packaging. Whether a longer and slimmer is better than shorter and fatter only time (and racing will tell).

3. Despite not being a designer, Brawn and downward angled noses is becoming somewhat of a pattern. Last year's Brawn reminded me of the Ferrari's anteater and it's projeny and this year is a continuation of the theme. I suspect that as far as performance goes, we all tend to give the nose way more attention than it deserves, but it's still a curiosity.
Zdeus
Does anyone think the car is not as long as other cars, namely McLaren and Ferrari !
johnmhinds
He still has the red helmet.

And that car still has Brawn wings on it.
One
QUOTE (Timstr11 @ Feb 1 2010, 09:55) *
Innovative low drag airbox:
http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/oprn6rc11.jpg
http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/kdcgvg8u5.jpg

They've completely redesigned the front. Didn't expect that:
http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/hfm6maol1.jpg
Very high front, single keel, steering arm now mounted higher.



The nose is bit Duck like but not clearly visible due to colour, so like a mix of RedBull and Brawn One... Side pods and under nose is of Brawn and upper part of the nose and the rear end of the chassis looks liek Red Bull. Curious (deadly) what they did to their diffuser.
peroa
QUOTE (Neophiliac @ Feb 1 2010, 09:56) *
2. Sidepods do look fatter than Mclaren. I'd like to see length comparisons, but my hunch is that they went with a shorter car and had different thoughts on packaging. Whether a longer and slimmer is better than shorter and fatter only time (and racing will tell).


I thought this question was answered last year.
peroa
QUOTE (Ravindra Nagpurkar @ Feb 1 2010, 09:57) *
Does anyone think the car is not as long as other cars, namely McLaren and Ferrari !



Hard to tell without some proper pics.
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (johnmhinds @ Feb 1 2010, 19:57) *
He still has the red helmet.

Schuamcher made it known a while ago that he was going to keep his helmet red. I have no objections; it makes it that much easier to spot him.

QUOTE (johnmhinds @ Feb 1 2010, 19:57) *
And that car still has Brawn wings on it.

The phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" springs to mind.
One
QUOTE (merschu @ Feb 1 2010, 09:01) *
new mercedes rolls out

http://twitpic.com/10tuwn




The car looks long enough from this shot.


BTW have all Formula One car so much rear wards looking rear suspension geometry? I am assuming that the it has Huge diffuser under neath so the lower wishbone mounting point was put ver ver much to the forwards... upper suspension mirrors the mounting point of lower wishbone... Am I correct?


,....

I can almost see the lap time chart already.

Brawn
Sauber
Mclaren
Ferrari
Renault
STR
...
f1rules
it looks decent and very very very unspectacular, but so did the brawn of last year. i quess what best describes my feelings are ambivalent.gif Pretty dissaponted
If itll be fast or slow i have no idea although. But looks like they went for shorted and more fat, then longer and slim.

So far by the looks i rank

Mclaren
Sauber
Williams
Mercedes/renault
Ferrari


But who cares, looks never won championships :-)
FlatOverCrest
Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder....

But I for one actually really like the look of this car, in fact possibly my favourite so far with the Williams a very close second.

Nice job with some innovative features...but still a little disappointed with the livery.... just seems to be missing that little something...and I also agree that the Mercedes branding on the engie cover almost looks like an afterthought of ... "Oh crap.... we forgot to put 'Mercedes' on the car anywhere!!"....

Nice car...average livery!
Flexa
Reminds of F2008 nosecone
Galko877
I have to say I like it. And I think the livery looks so much better on this car than on last year's car.
kar
QUOTE (andrew. @ Feb 1 2010, 08:28) *
Wow.. I didn't think any new car would out-sexy the Renault but that's gorgeous.


Agreed, the thing looks like a missile. I hope it moves as fast as one :-)
rad787
Interesting nose. Adopted the red bull style but kept the Brawn lower placement design, best of both worlds I suppose? And the wings at the nose on each side following the black paint (not the cameras) are interesting as well. Rear packaging looks really tight.
Galko877
QUOTE (f1rules @ Feb 1 2010, 12:12) *
it looks decent and very very very unspectacular, but so did the brawn of last year. i quess what best describes my feelings are ambivalent.gif Pretty dissaponted
If itll be fast or slow i have no idea although. But looks like they went for shorted and more fat, then longer and slim.

So far by the looks i rank

Mclaren
Sauber
Williams
Mercedes/renault
Ferrari


But who cares, looks never won championships :-)


I thought the Sauber looked ugly and IMO McLaren looks great but that's also because of their great livery. I'm not so much a fan of the shape of those cars. I prefer Mercedes and Ferrari by far. By the look, I mean.
Disgrace
Interesting. By fact the most interesting feature of the lot is the airbox and air intake arrangement. Radical.
FA and RK fan
great looking car, up.gif The air intake is sick cool.gif , i love it. To bad there is no pic to compare lenght with mclaren and ferrari
roadie
The low nose is certainly different to what we've seen so far and a continuation of Brawn's design last year. However, it is higher. The angle of attack of the nose, along with the dive planes are sure to create some downforce.

You can definitely see from the side on shot of the airbox how far the engine has been moved back.
fetzo
The McLaren looks "great" drunk.gif ? Not!

Mercedes is cool. Simple, but great smoking.gif
f1rules
QUOTE (Galko877 @ Feb 1 2010, 10:49) *
I thought the Sauber looked ugly and IMO McLaren looks great but that's also because of their great livery. I'm not so much a fan of the shape of those cars. I prefer Mercedes and Ferrari by far. By the look, I mean.



well i judge by concepts, basically how developed they look, not the looks sorry.
To me the sauber and mclaren looks by far the most developed, with nice solutions. Ferrari, Mercedes and renault all disappoint. Ok the mercedes feat. about the air intake is nice, will help the flow for the rearwing a lot im sure. But other then that. These last three just look very ordinary i think. BUT, i have no idea about their speed!.
fetzo
QUOTE (f1rules @ Feb 1 2010, 11:02) *
To me the Sauber and Mclaren looks by far the most developed, with nice solutions. Ferrari, Mercedes and Renault all disappoint.


lol.gif

This year, the McLaren looks very ugly.

Ferrari & Mercedes are the best. Not spectacular, but great wink.gif
potmotr
First impressions: Great looking car.

Very Red Bull nose section.

Amazingly sleek airbox cover.

Cool!
Galko877
QUOTE (f1rules @ Feb 1 2010, 12:02) *
well i judge by concepts, basically how developed they look, not the looks sorry.
To me the sauber and mclaren looks by far the most developed, with nice solutions. Ferrari, Mercedes and renault all disappoint. Ok the mercedes feat. about the air intake is nice, will help the flow for the rearwing a lot im sure. But other then that. These last three just look very ordinary i think. BUT, i have no idea about their speed!.



People were saying the same about the Ferrari F2004 too.....
f1rules
IM NOT JUDGING SPEED! i judge what i think of the concepts, Last years Brawn car looked very very unspectacular also, but won
f1rules
but this is battle of the concepts, we have ferrari and mercedes looking incredible boring and we have sauber and mclaren looking bold and brave. Who is faster we wont know until first GP
f1rules
but what i do like is, our old man in team, mr schumacher, standing at the track trying to learn by watching the other cars, his work morale is up.gif and he will be a huge help.
Wade
Will MSC run today? Anyone knows when, if he does?
Gilles4Ever
QUOTE (Wade @ Feb 1 2010, 12:34) *
Will MSC run today? Anyone knows when, if he does?

Afternoon session
Galko877
QUOTE (Wade @ Feb 1 2010, 13:34) *
Will MSC run today? Anyone knows when, if he does?


Yes. Morning: Rosberg, Afternoon: Schumacher.
schumaster
QUOTE (Wade @ Feb 1 2010, 11:34) *
Will MSC run today? Anyone knows when, if he does?


Yes, he will....in the afternoon clap.gif

Can't wait!!! up.gif
Simon Says
Seems like Brawn has taken a good look at Red Bull rolleyes.gif

Well, it should be good if they manage to get some speed from Red Bull. With Brawn on the pitwall and the reliability of the car, it's going to be a car that's hard to beat.
OneAndOnly
Looks very interesting. Hope it will be fast.
Flexa


If someone can get a similar angle from the Ferrari F2008 nosecone, they look very similar in shape (despite the hammer), mainly the curved underneath.
Wade
Nice pic, to add to that:

http://twitpic.com/10uapv

Very nice.
ex Rhodie racer 2
Man, that triangular airbox gives me a stiffie, and I´m 65. eek.gif
Lovely looking car. Nicest I´ve seen so far this season.
Timstr11
Airbox
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (ex Rhodie racer 2 @ Feb 1 2010, 23:02) *
Man, that triangular airbox gives me a stiffie, and I´m 65. eek.gif

Are you sure it wasn't just the ad featuring the bikini-clad model up in the top-right corner?
Ben
Roll hoop is basically a LMP style blade roll hoop with the air intake tacked on.

Looks nice. I particularly like the steering arm position. It's always nice to see a load of teams copy something and for the originator of the idea to ditch it :-)

Ben
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